Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
I wonder if you can tow it for 30 miles at 75 mph. Wear due to lack of lubrication is probably not linear. Of course you can! Might not have a working transmission when you are done. Yeah, that's what I'd think. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-20 Thread Jon Agne
After consulting the oracles here, a few other off-list sources with impeccable credentials, as well as considering other critical factors (tow vehicle, weather, wind, road condtion) it was decided to tow backwards. It towed beautifully with nary a wiggle as the speed was kept between 45-50.

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-20 Thread Max Dillon
Glad to hear! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: After consulting the oracles here, a few other off-list sources with impeccable credentials, as well as considering other critical factors (tow vehicle, weather, wind, road condtion) it

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Gerry Archer
There was a discussion about this several years ago. Some versions of automatic transmissions have rear pumps and some don't. The transmission numbers must be checked rather than the model/type of car according to that discussion. Gerry From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net It will say

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Jon Agne
Hmmmy owners manual is in German. On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: It will say that (if you can tow with rear wheels on ground) in the owners manual, along with limits for speed and distance. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Mike Esh
When I used a tow dolly to bring my 84 300D from Chicago to Whitehall, MI (couple hundred miles) I could not go faster than 50 MPH without the car starting to whip back and forth. Be careful and take it easy! Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Max Dillon
Google translate is your friend... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Hmmmy owners manual is in German. On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: It will say that (if you can tow with rear wheels on ground) in the owners

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Randy Bennell
On 18/04/2013 7:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: It will say that (if you can tow with rear wheels on ground) in the owners manual, along with limits for speed and distance. The manual for my 76 300D says it can be towed for up to 75 miles at no faster than 30MPH with the rear wheels on the ground

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I wonder if you can tow it for 30 miles at 75 mph. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 18/04/2013 7:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: It will say that (if you can tow with rear wheels on ground) in the owners manual, along with limits for speed and distance.

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Randy Bennell
No doubt you can but I doubt that you should. Probably need an F350 or so in order to reasonably safely pull a car at that sort of speed. Randy On 19/04/2013 2:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I wonder if you can tow it for 30 miles at 75 mph. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond
it in neutral. I also towed a 4400# farm tractor 300 miles at 55mph with that same '96 Dakota although the tractor was on a flatbed. -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:07:26 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Towing

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Allan Streib
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:07:26 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Towing question??? Message-ID: 5171b20e.3050...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed No doubt you can but I

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-19 Thread Dieselhead
Andrew sez: I wonder if you can tow it for 30 miles at 75 mph. Of course you can! Might not have a working transmission when you are done. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Jon Agne
I have to move a '68 250S about 55 miles tomorrow, and my usual trailer is unavailable. Is it OK to tow backwards with a dolly (rear wheels on dolly)? The steering column locks. Thanks, Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Dieselhead
Air pressure in front tires low (20-25psi) and go slow. 55. I towed a 110 hundreds of miles with a 111. Towed 123s similar distances with gCaravan. Best if your tow vehicle is twice as heavy as the towed vehicle. GO slow and allow lots of stopping distance clearance. Never jam on the

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Jon Agne
Thanks. On Apr 18, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Air pressure in front tires low (20-25psi) and go slow. 55. I towed a 110 hundreds of miles with a 111. Towed 123s similar distances with gCaravan. Best if your tow vehicle is twice as heavy as the towed vehicle. GO slow and

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread rickknoble
No. The heavy end of the car MUST be on the tow dolly. Remove the drive shaft, and put the front end on the dolly. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tabletJon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:I have to move a '68 250S about 55 miles tomorrow, and my usual trailer is unavailable.  Is it OK to tow

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Randy Bennell
On 18/04/2013 2:41 PM, rickknoble wrote: No. The heavy end of the car MUST be on the tow dolly. Remove the drive shaft, and put the front end on the dolly. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tabletJon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:I have to move a '68 250S about 55 miles tomorrow, and my usual

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley
rickknoble wrote: No. The heavy end of the car MUST be on the tow dolly. Remove the drive shaft, and put the front end on the dolly. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/general-information/225168-towing-disaster.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Max Dillon
Concur. Towing backwards doesn't work too well as the steering geometry may cause the steering wheels to oscillate side-to-side. That may eventually whip the Mercedes around so much that your tow vehicle will lose control. Going very slow may eliminate that. There was a thread on one of the

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Dieselhead
Take some planks/blocks along. The tow dolly ramps may be too steep to climb backwards. you can lessen the incline with the planks. Because the front tires are closer to the bumper, they go right up the ramps. The distance to the bumper from the rear tires causes the bumper to hang up on

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Dieselhead
Concur. Towing backwards doesn't work too well as the steering geometry may cause the steering wheels to oscillate side-to-side. That may eventually whip the Mercedes around so much that your tow vehicle will lose control. Going very slow may eliminate that. Not applicable on an MB, so long

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Curt Raymond
2013 14:41:54 -0500 From: rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Towing question??? Message-ID: col401-eas203d149ea17680c9aa0c7f9dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 No. The heavy end of the car MUST be on the tow dolly. Remove the drive shaft

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Dieselhead
I thought these were cars that could be towed with the rear wheels on the ground without harming the AT - assuming it is an AT. Randy I was thinking the same thing. I thought MB auto trans ffrom 1959 until 198? all had rear pumps and could be towed.

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Max Dillon
It will say that (if you can tow with rear wheels on ground) in the owners manual, along with limits for speed and distance. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I thought these were cars that could be towed with the rear

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread OK Don
IIRC, it's OK to tow up to something like 50 miles at up to 35 mph --- On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I thought these were cars that could be towed with the rear wheels on the ground without harming the AT - assuming it is an AT. Randy -- OK

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Cathey
IIRC, it's OK to tow up to something like 50 miles at up to 35 mph --- Let the towed car idle, and go like a bat out of hell. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Towing question???

2013-04-18 Thread OK Don
OK, then just drive it instead of towing it! On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: IIRC, it's OK to tow up to something like 50 miles at up to 35 mph --- Let the towed car idle, and go like a bat out of hell. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Towing Question

2006-09-20 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
The MB tranny has a rear pump so that it can be started by getting it up to around 35 m/h, drop it in drive and the engine will turn over and crank if the fuel and ignition are OK. This is explained in the Owners Manual. If you tow with rear wheels down the rear pump will try to engage the

Re: [MBZ] Towing Question

2006-09-20 Thread Jim Cathey
recall reading somewhere that the MB transmissions lock up when in fourth gear such that the torque converter is no longer involved in the transfer Not to my knowledge, in any of the vintages we usually talk about here. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Towing Question

2006-09-20 Thread David Brodbeck
Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: The MB tranny has a rear pump so that it can be started by getting it up to around 35 m/h, drop it in drive and the engine will turn over and crank if the fuel and ignition are OK. This is explained in the Owners Manual. If you tow with rear wheels down the rear

[MBZ] Towing Question

2006-09-19 Thread P. D. Ferguson
There have been a few recent posts suggesting that towing with the MB transmissions may cause them to overheat. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the MB transmissions lock up when in fourth gear such that the torque converter is no longer involved in the transfer of

Re: [MBZ] Towing Question

2006-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley
P. D. Ferguson wrote: There have been a few recent posts suggesting that towing with the MB transmissions may cause them to overheat. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the MB transmissions lock up when in fourth gear such that the torque converter is no longer