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2021-08-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thank you for warning Karl, I do apologize but I won't stand by for insults against America when our soldiers are dying overseas on an impossible mission due to incompetent leadership. Max Dillon Charleston SC Aug 29, 2021 10:08:44 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes : > Stop. Not appropriate for

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2021-08-29 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Stop. Not appropriate for this list and you know it. No more warnings. -D/ListMom > On Aug 29, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kind of like the current tyrants forcing "woke" down our thoughts. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at

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2021-08-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Kind of like the current tyrants forcing "woke" down our thoughts. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:07 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Kind of like the original settlers here in the US. > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:57 AM OK Don via

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2021-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-08-22 11:56, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing to die to inflict their religion on everyone. Unfortunately, the Taliban leaders have been making their list and checking it twice for over 19 years. Now Butcher Clause is

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2021-08-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Kind of like the original settlers here in the US. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:57 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing to > die to inflict their religion on everyone. > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes > wrote:

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2021-08-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I think we had them pretty handily beat on the financing front. At least that is what my tax return said. K On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:23 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in > the world, just to finance those necessary war

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2021-08-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing to die to inflict their religion on everyone. On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home. The > invaders have no investment in success.

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2021-08-21 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home. The invaders have no investment in success. Maybe the pretty boys do, but not the grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a beer, and wrenching on his vehicle of choice. Tally Wacker Man cares deeply,

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2021-08-21 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Alexander the Great could not conquer them. He paid for passage through their country. His general had to fight his way through with heavy losses. Ain't history great? Fred. On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 5:24 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Don't forget the British! >

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2021-08-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Don't forget the British! Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 5:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: The USSR tried and failed. The USA tried and failed. What will China do differently? On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >

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2021-08-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
is best addressed on Okie talk. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 21, 2021 4:04 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me. The USSR tried and failed. The USA tried and failed. What will China do

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2021-08-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
China will have met its match on individual corruption with Afghanistan. It would be a great partnership. Mutual destruction assured. I lived in Afghanistan and the Northern Tribal Territories [Northern Pakistan tribal area] among the tribes for 7 years during the "Russia era". I gained a rather

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2021-08-21 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The USSR tried and failed. The USA tried and failed. What will China do differently? On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan > next? Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade,

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2021-08-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan next? Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be tempting to China. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

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2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Huh. I thought they were Asiatic roses... On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being ruthless. > Just for your reading pleasure: >

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2021-08-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being ruthless. Just for your reading pleasure: https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf and:

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2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized. On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of top > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.

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2021-08-21 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of top dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours. Perhaps we should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with similarly dirt simple tech IIRC. On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew

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2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE TALIBAN. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all other forms > of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan.

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2021-08-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all other forms of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount your .50 in the back and you’re an instant Technical! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: >

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2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yeah, I saw one of those on the national news tonight, too. -D > On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > But wait --- what's this?? > > https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/2daf4e4b531542e0bb7487b0aa2ab183/800.jpeg > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at

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2021-08-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
But wait --- what's this?? https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/2daf4e4b531542e0bb7487b0aa2ab183/800.jpeg On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell to > the middle east? So Nissan

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2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Speaking of which, has anyone watched the last episode of whatever they call their show now? The one where they all drive big American land yachts across northern Scotland? It’s pretty entertaining. -D > On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > There's a Top Gear

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2021-08-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
There's a Top Gear episode where they try to destroy a Toyota truck. Of course it's all contrived for the show but it's still fun. Allan On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 5:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Buddy of the youngest son has the domestic equivalent of the HiLux from the > early

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2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Buddy of the youngest son has the domestic equivalent of the HiLux from the early 80s. He’s a water treatment guy at the Grand Canyon. The truck has over 400k on it and looks like it, but it still runs like new. He maintains it well and says it’s never left him stranded. Youngest son got to

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2021-08-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I had an '87 Toyota pickup, 4WD, 22RE engine. Engine and drivetrain was bulletproof. The body sheet metal on the other had was extremely rust-prone. Probably would have held up well in a desert though. Allan On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > I had a 1970

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2021-08-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I rented an Atos in Greece. Had 5 speeds and 5 hp. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 4:32 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it > didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was > the

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2021-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was the word. Small cab and small box. It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders and was essentially avocado green. Some

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2021-08-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their children out to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the nasty hilux and Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way the trucks seem to appeal to the lowest form of human garbage. Sent from my iPhone

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2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
"So reliable even the Taliban drives them!” -D > On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell to > the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford or > whoever.Or they

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2021-08-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The massive King of Tonga - which had 8 miles of road at the time - purchased a 600 Grosser back in 1969. The car was delivered but somehow the key was lost. It sat on the dock for 3 weeks awaiting a replacement so his rolypoly Highness could travel in Style. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:43 AM

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2021-08-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > I realize they can’t control it but the image is the image. Toyota truck = > terrorist. EV = emasculated liberal pussy. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >>> >>

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2021-08-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell to the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford or whoever.Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already know how to smuggle. It's just a thing, that gets used by people,

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2021-08-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/vehicles/taliban-toyota-third-world-warfare?utm_source=facebook_medium=social_campaign=ihsocial=IwAR29PHOWeNJBtEBnVzYZ15ujm2oQcViThjlipoTPUiAGosTYOaNwpYmaKSM Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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2019-10-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Thats why we call them STEALERships! OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 8:30 PM: Very interesting! I wonder if it was a Ford suggestion to recover some revenue? I gave the dealership a failing grade on the survey afterwards, got a call from the service manager, and told him that I would

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2019-10-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Very interesting! I wonder if it was a Ford suggestion to recover some revenue? I gave the dealership a failing grade on the survey afterwards, got a call from the service manager, and told him that I would never be back. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If it was an older one from the 80s it wouldn’t be a problem other than sourcing parts, I would expect. They were pretty analog at that time. -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 16/10/2019 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Not really - it’s

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2019-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 16/10/2019 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a vehicle… -D And having it repaired out in the boonies would likely pose a problem unless he

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a vehicle… -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > I know. I was just being a smart ass! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct

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2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I know. I was just being a smart ass! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately. > > -D > > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Ok, I

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately. -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes: > > A vintage G-wagen! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at

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2019-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 16/10/2019 12:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two wheels and measured the

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2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes: A vintage G-wagen! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall > (reprogramming the shift down computer,

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2019-10-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The time

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Dad had a few stories about stuff that happened in GM plants, but it wasn’t first hand so it’s tough to know if it was true or just anecdotal. I once worked with an older guy in the 80s who worked on the line at Studebaker before they shut down. He told stories of how after it was announced

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2019-10-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Was it rusting out by the time you got home? Was there a tuna sandwich in the door?I'd like to know how many of the stories of labor influenced disasters of that period are true. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: As I

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2019-10-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Toyota is a big player in Trophy truck racing. Big output engines, huge travel suspension, off-road at highway speeds... I didn't like the Tacoma when we drove them before buying our Dodge. The swiss cheese frame debacle awhile ago didn't impress me either. That said there is a reason the Hilux

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
As I recall, it was. While the Córdoba was probably the pinnacle of crappy Detroit iron of time, it was a really nice car as I recall. -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather? > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on

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2019-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 16/10/2019 10:16 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: The true test of one of those Asian crapboxes is how well they and the occupants hold up in an accident. Sadly, most North American pickup trucks did not have a very good crash rating until fairly recently either. I know my '02

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2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Exactly! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2019, at 7:59 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? > > A friend had one he traded in on a Ford f150. It had about 400k miles on it. > It needed very few repairs, if any. They are very sound pick-ups. They have

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2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
The true test of one of those Asian crapboxes is how well they and the occupants hold up in an accident. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be > considered good? > As long as a

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2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Good one! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even >> though it’s also cheap crap. > > I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts > with

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2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yeah the TRD is funny. Toyota Racing Development my arse. Who races garbage Toyota pickups anyway? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky > and turd. > > Kevin

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2019-10-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather? Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 4:15 AM: My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but… His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but… His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had more chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio

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2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I have a friend who had a 67 galaxie when I met him.   I believe his parents bought it new.  He got over 300 k with it.  He replaces each frod with another.  Each one got over 300k.  BTW he was an A when I met him, working on a degree in Aero E.   Since he gradgitated, he has worked for a

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2019-10-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote: > The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming > weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll > never know... Maybe they hung out with the MBUSA folks and smoke the same stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

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2019-10-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? A friend had one he traded in on a Ford f150. It had about 400k miles on it. It needed very few repairs, if any. They are very sound pick-ups. They have a very commanding resale value too. Rick ___

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2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups last a long time". But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k",

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2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Scion, like Saturn, was meant to sell for no-haggle MSRP. > On October 15, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I gave some serious thought to an xB when they first came out, but the > dealers wouldn’t deal on them because of the demand. I figured it would be a > good

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2019-10-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
damn straight I will when I get fed up with garbage from people who have never owned one. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Wow! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. Randy On 15/10/2019 3:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it

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2019-10-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
right but you don't know what was done to it or how it was serviced. Just because it was dealer serviced does not mean it was done right. I did all the service on our Tacoma so all I can say is that either we got very lucky and got a good car or there is something that went on with your

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2019-10-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Some similar options: https://m.facebook.com/search/top/?q=datsun%20pickup=content_filter=0.6612099121608328=typeahead On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 5:10 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > My point precisely. If you think the Grand Canyon is forbidding, remote or > unimproved, you need to recalibrate your

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2019-10-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
My point precisely. If you think the Grand Canyon is forbidding, remote or unimproved, you need to recalibrate your definitions of those terms. If a bunch of Bedouin with no formal mechanical training can run these things in the open desert, to the near exclusion of any other sort of vehicle at

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2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I gave some serious thought to an xB when they first came out, but the dealers wouldn’t deal on them because of the demand. I figured it would be a good cheep commuter car. Only thing I didn’t care for was the dash and parts of the interior were really cheap and plasticky. -D > On Oct 15,

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2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
My next door neighbor traded his Taco a year or two ago when the dealer wanted to replace the transmission on it. I'm not sure how well maintained it was, but it was dealer serviced, not driven much, and until the last two years of its life the neighbor's fastidious ex boyfriend had a hand in

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2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Wow! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. Randy On 15/10/2019 3:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be considered good? As long as a Mercedes? My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it (80

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2019-10-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be considered good? As long as a Mercedes? My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4 door 2wd with a lid on the bed. Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One

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2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like George Bush? https://youtu.be/ljrIFqbmKp8 -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even >> though it’s also cheap crap. > > I think our guest workers may like them so much because the

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2019-10-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:07:11 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting > >even though it’s also cheap crap. > > I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name > starts with "Taco". As in, "Make me a

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2019-10-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even >though it’s also cheap crap. I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts with "Taco". Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2019-10-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even though it’s also cheap crap. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck > here in the US. >

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2019-10-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Given my understanding of the situation, getting _anything_ exotic would be stupid. Buy whatever 4wd that meets your needs that the region is dripping with, but avoiding lemon models, and Just Drive. Save the exotics for secondary toys. -- Jim ___

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2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly my point. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > A half junk Wrangler still brings $4-5000. Same price buys a much more useful > and less junky pickup. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >

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2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
How about Nissan and their Qashqai? Translation is supposedly, "A horse with a white forehead". Randy On 15/10/2019 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll never

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2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Acronym for Toyota Racing Development, I believe. Randy On 15/10/2019 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I have to wonder who came up with the “TRD” thing, as they probably weren’t that familiar with the English language or slang terms. -D ___

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2019-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A half junk Wrangler still brings $4-5000. Same price buys a much more useful and less junky pickup. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If the service aspect wasn’t an issue I would suggest an ML. I think they would do

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2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
He might find it a fair bit easier to find a 4Runner which would be about the same in running gear. I had a 95 which is the 2nd generation and apart from rusting, it was fairly decent. The 3rd generation has more power, and more interior space. If he can find one in AZ that might avoid the

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2019-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll never know... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have to wonder who came up with the “TRD” thing, as they probably weren’t that familiar with the English language or slang terms. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky >

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Back around 1970, J I Case had a proving ground near their backhoe and bulldozer plant at Burlington.  One of the guys who worked there drove a 220Sb.  The employees would have offroad races around the place.  Think motocross in a car.    The 220Sb won almost all the time, according to what he

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky and turd. Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:46 AM: Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables.

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
They sold the little crapboxes as hilux in the USA for decades.   The bowties renamed it tacky because the hilux had a reputation for melting into iron oxide before your eyes. Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:28 AM: A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If the service aspect wasn’t an issue I would suggest an ML. I think they would do fairly well in that environment. Jeeps are stupid expensive. A coworker just bought a new one and it’s so tarted up I can’t imagine stuff staying in place if they took it off-road. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. And they left the U out of TRD. Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR 1982 240D High Mileage Hildegard Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:29 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck here in the US. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Again, read my original post. I would raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent,

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I bet a Jeep Scrambler has future collector potential. Oops, they already want more than 20k for those things. Tell him to get a rusty ML55 and chop it down into a dune buggy. Mitch. > On October 15, 2019 at 10:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > He’s been in the pickup truck mode

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Depends on your definition of off road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUD4mSvZms > On October 15, 2019 at 9:51 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > This time it was an aesthetics and functionality thing. He likes the > simplicity and the styling of the W124, but thinks he can off road

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
He’s been in the pickup truck mode for a while, but balks at considering anything domestic for some unknown reason. As I’ve mentioned before, a decent used domestic truck like a Ford, Chevy or Dodge would be ideal, as there would be no problem at all finding support for them in such a remote

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Got it. How about a Jeep Wrangler ? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely > rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the > time. No service

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the time. No service facilities or a place to work on it should something break. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Why? My brother uses a 1989 w124 300TE non 4matic as a “work truck” and it’s one tough car. 330K miles, engine needs valve guides but he keeps driving it and adding oil, cleaning/replacing fouled plugs as needed. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This time it was an aesthetics and functionality thing. He likes the simplicity and the styling of the W124, but thinks he can off road with 4Matic. I suggested a W210 4Matic, as they’re far more common, less expensive, and more reliable and easier to maintain. I pointed out that the original

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I hauled a lot of construction materials (including 80BF of dirty rough sawn cherry) in my mint interior 1999 4matic. Interior was far from mint after I had it a month. Only real problems I ever had with that car were dead fuel pump (inline and easy to swap), rusty brake lines, and HVAC

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up on it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, haven’t heard. At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had some idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I like that. -D > On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That is so true. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I read this recently: If you raise your kids you can spoil your grandkids. >>

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That is so true. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I read this recently: If you raise your kids you can spoil your grandkids. > But if you spoil your kids you will raise your grandchildren. > >> -Original Message- >> From:

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-13 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Rick wrote: > Tell him "good luck with that". They are few and far between > here in the states. Try BaT. I thought the "Hi-Lux" was just the non-US name for "pickup". I suppose the US market pickups got different engine and trim and stuff, especially in recent years.

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I was gonna comment that he might be able to find one in the sandbox for cheap, but getting it in the country would be a problem. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:56 PM: On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Exactly. Hence the comment by Floyd early

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