Re: [MBZ] UPS delivers my Amazon order

2024-01-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
There's a website somewhere collecting photos of all the crazy places UPS, FedEx, Amazon, etc. have "delivered" packages. You should submit that. On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, at 12:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > 2 idler pulleys > > > > > --FT > Sent from iFōn >

Re: [MBZ] UPS FCPEuro package delivered last night at 730P

2023-12-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
It's peak season. Be grateful that it arrived. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: December 6, 2023 10:35 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] UPS FCPEuro package delivered last night at 730P yeah don't bring

[MBZ] UPS FCPEuro package delivered last night at 730P

2023-12-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
yeah don't bring it to the porch just stick it on top of a car out front. UPS is getting as bad as Fedex Track to see delivery photo -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delive

Re: [MBZ] Ups claim

2023-11-01 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That’s kind of what I figured. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2023, at 12:56 AM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes > wrote: > > Folks > > Non returnable things are still returnable on ebay if damaged > > Seller always loses > > I’m an ebay seller since prob 1996 and I know > > Still sell about $

[MBZ] Ups claim

2023-10-31 Thread RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes
Folks Non returnable things are still returnable on ebay if damaged Seller always loses I’m an ebay seller since prob 1996 and I know Still sell about $500 a month Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archi

Re: [MBZ] UPS

2022-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
cedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] UPS Now lets talk about UPS. Ordered an assortment of fuel hose clamps on Amazon prime last week. Delivery is supposed to be Monday. Tracking shows it came out of CA and is currently somewhere in KY. So now it has to come way bac

Re: [MBZ] UPS

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
These shippers use a hub-and spoke model. All the packages go to a hub for sorting and then out to regional facilities for further sorting/delivery. At one time in the early days of FedEx, *every* package went to Memphis overnight for sorting and then back out towards its final destination. I th

[MBZ] UPS

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Now lets talk about UPS.  Ordered an assortment of fuel hose clamps on Amazon prime last week.  Delivery is supposed to be Monday.  Tracking shows it came out of CA and is currently somewhere in KY.  So now it has to come way back west to get to me?  WTF? _

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 02:32:10 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > They all do. At least all the recent ones. Switching mode > power supplies promptly turn the AC into DC - at line > voltage. That means about 120 VDC. This is then used to > drive the DC-to-DC converters that result in +12, +5, +

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
They all do. At least all the recent ones. Switching mode power supplies promptly turn the AC into DC - at line voltage. That means about 120 VDC. This is then used to drive the DC-to-DC converters that result in +12, +5, +3, -5, etc. Feed it a steady DC in their voltage range and it should b

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-10 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Meade wrote: > > Are there PC power supplies that accept DC power as well as > AC power? They all do. At least all the recent ones. Switching mode power supplies promptly turn the AC into DC - at line voltage. That means about 120 VDC. This is then used to drive the DC-to-DC converters that

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Oct 7, 2015 11:52 PM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" wrote: >> > > Budget is essentially zero, as what we have serves the needs. > We just charge UPS on rope-pull; heat water, cook, dry on BB. May be time for an upgrade, that seems way too complicated. Andrew says solar is a good deal; I'll bet yo

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:40:53 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > And then your computer takes the 110-240V 50-60Hz and turns it back into > DC... Yup. > A laptop needs a DC input, maybe some efficiency could be gained by > simply converting the AC from the generator to DC once, and then on

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
And then your computer takes the 110-240V 50-60Hz and turns it back into DC... A laptop needs a DC input, maybe some efficiency could be gained by simply converting the AC from the generator to DC once, and then only consuming DC on that circuit? Lights and water heaters don't care about frequenc

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
G: No, I mean a 110v generator feeding an inverter that converts it to DC. Terminology. That's not an _inverter_! Converting AC to DC is easy, cheap, and common. Inverting the process is not, relatively speaking. The inverter-based generators, like Honda's EU1000i, are DC generators that fee

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On October 9, 2015 at 1:08 AM archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > G: No, I mean a 110v generator feeding an inverter that converts it to DC. > Then, the inverter feeds the DC to another inverter that produces a 110v sine > wave. Then, if the sine wave is now a steady 60hz but with a squirre

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I have a brand new WEG VFD for sale. it is in the 10-20 amp range for 3 phase 240 or 480, but I'd have to check the model number to be sure of the ratings. It contains an inverter. it takes dirty sine waves and you can adjust the output frequency. > > Gerry wrote: > I'm thinking two i

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-09 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Mostly Deutsch or Italian motors, and those like "clean" sine waves. THey > tend not to fare well with dirty wave forms. > I'll just note in passing that I fried a modern transistorized Lionel model trai

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-08 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
> > Gerry wrote: > > I'm thinking two inverters back to back > Craig wrote: > You mean a DC power supply feeding an inverter ... G: No, I mean a 110v generator feeding an inverter that converts it to DC. Then, the inverter feeds the DC to another inverter that produces a 110v sine wave. Then, i

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
But a DC power supply feeding an inverter is exactly what a certain class of UPS is, though I forget the special name. Me too, but all four of our big UPS's are that kind. APC's Smart-UPS x2, and Best Power's FerrUPS x2. We're using the small 2kVA APC. Backups? We gotcher backups right here

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 19:51:18 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > > I'm thinking two inverters back to back You mean a DC power supply feeding an inverter ... > and a sine wave line conditioner feeding the computer equipment on a > special circuit; assuming that the inverters can handle a s

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Jim, Your unit has a mechanical flyweight governor that is either belt or gear driven. It's probably a Hoof, Pierce, or something comparable. You can use the Google to get more information on the Hoof governors, as the operation is pretty common amongst all mechanical governors. You'll have a

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-08 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > Max wrote: > > > > In Jim's case, I don't think I'd want to compete against > > your kid in making > > _anything_! > Jim wrote: > > These are not inherited traits. Kid can't make anything > material. Not interested. True. However, without environment it is less likely for talent to develop

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
In Jim's case, I don't think I'd want to compete against your kid in making _anything_! These are not inherited traits. Kid can't make anything material. Not interested. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/a

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Not sure if it's in the budget, but it could be retrofitted for an electronic or "isochronous" governor for a few bucks. That keeps it dead nuts at 60Hz no load to full load. Budget is essentially zero, as what we have serves the needs. We just charge UPS on rope-pull; heat water, cook, dry on

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
from the way things sound. A well adjusted mechanical governor shouldn't vary more than 3Hz at load changes, and that would be heavy loads. If it does, something is not adjusted properly or he's got fuel system issues. Yeah, that mechanical thingy has holes and springs. I have no instruction

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
I'm thinking two inverters back to back and a sine wave line conditioner feeding the computer equipment on a special circuit; assuming that the inverters can handle a squirrelly sine wave. The DC coming into the second inverter should be converted into reasonable good sine waves, and the line

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Jim's issue is due to variations in the engine speed. No buck/boost transformer will fix that. He needs to get the sensitivity ("gain") on the governor adjusted properly, from the way things sound. A well adjusted mechanical governor shouldn't vary more than 3Hz at load changes, and that would

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
You need a "buck booster" in between. basically regulates the power supply. takes crappy waves and makes nice sine waves. Had that problem with helco in Hawaii. had to use a buck booster between the building power and electronics not designed to handle turd world power utilities. but t

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Jim, You shouldn't be seeing that kind of variation in frequency unless you're running really lightly loaded and/or your governor sensitivity isn't set properly. That unit has a mechanical or "droop" governor. It should be set for around 63Hz at no load, with 60Hz at full load. You can adjus

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Jim, You shouldn't be seeing that kind of variation in frequency unless you're running really lightly loaded and/or your governor sensitivity isn't set properly. That unit has a mechanical or "droop" governor. It should be set for around 63Hz at no load, with 60Hz at full load. You can adjust

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
In Jim's case, I don't think I'd want to compete against your kid in making _anything_! - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run >> outside the 57-63 Hz

Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

2015-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
but they wouldn't recharge on my generator which tended to run outside the 57-63 Hz UPS threshold for OK power. IIRC, that is a bit of an issue. These things need a "Hey, it's not _that_ bad" switch on them or something. Shut up and eat your electrons... Ironically, I have the worst problem w

Re: [MBZ] UPS - was: Fleabay is worthless

2014-02-03 Thread Fmiser
> Dan wrote: > > I haven't used UPS in years, as they are seriously uncompetitive > with the other services as far as I'm concerned. There's more than just price. Around here, UPS is the only one with decent service. Anything incoming I request UPS, and outgoing it's certainly the most conven

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread mlh
> I assume the same thing happens in reverse. If you bring things into the > USA from Canada that are made offshore, the USA customs folk will likely > charge you duty. I've never had anything to declare. It's been about 15 years since I made the crossing, but from what I remember, beyond the sta

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
t; > > If I were in Canada and you did that to me I'd never order from you > > again. > > > Poor bastards gonna end up paying some absurd extra "brokerage fee" to > > UPS > > > to get their stuff. USPS is the ONLY way to ship to Canada. > > &

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Dan Penoff
t;> If I were in Canada and you did that to me I'd never order from you >>>> again. >>>> >>>>> Poor bastards gonna end up paying some absurd extra "brokerage fee" to >>>> UPS >>>> >>>>> to get their stuff. USPS

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Randy Bennell
The brokerage fee with the post office is the flat $5. Randy On 20/09/2013 11:13 AM, WILTON wrote: Yep, 'cause that's what they oughta do. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:1

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
gt;> Poor bastards gonna end up paying some absurd extra "brokerage fee" to >>>> >>> UPS >>> >>>> to get their stuff. USPS is the ONLY way to ship to Canada. >>>> >>>> -Curt >>>> >>>> >>>> D

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i used to go across often 20+ years ago when i lived up at the part of the world, but i didn't used to cross at touristy crossings at least i tried not to, so mostly it was just the usual "waving" and "hey, how you doing?" both ways On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > > > I assume the sam

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread WILTON
Yep, 'cause that's what they oughta do. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada I believe it's due to the USPS be

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada >> >> >> I believe it's due to the USPS being a quasi-

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to Canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
s > during this time, the Fort Fairfield border crossing isn't real busy) and > after another couple minutes takes our IDs from the first guy, hands them > to me and although the first guy is still talking says "You folks have a > nice day now". The

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
back when i used to mess with watches, i could buy current issue swiss watches cheaply from switzerland. for 30 bucks i could get them shipped to me in roughly 2 business day. no one ever asked me for any duty or brokerage or anything but they just showed up in my mail same as if they were sent f

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread mlh
> i used to go across often 20+ years ago when i lived up at the part of the > world, but i didn't used to cross at touristy crossings at least i tried > not to, so mostly it was just the usual "waving" and "hey, how you doing?" > both ways The last time I went across, I went north with a boat th

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to Canada

2013-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond
our IDs from the first guy, hands them to me and although the first guy is still talking says "You folks have a nice day now". The other guy shuts up and we drive off... -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: m...@voyager.net To: "Mercedes Discussion List" S

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Dan Penoff
And I believe that in many cases the decision to charge one for duties and fees is arbitrary and up to the Customs officer. I say this because there were numerous times I traveled outside the US and brought back items worth well over the $400 limit. I always listed EVERYTHING I bought overseas

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 20/09/2013 11:20 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: and what exactly are they "brokering?" while my own country is becoming kind of a third rate third world kinda place, it's still a place where you just buy stuff and it shows up and there are none of these issues. at least back when i used to actually b

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Randy Bennell
-Curt Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:54:52 -0400 From: Gary Hurst To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i sent a box of about 20lbs to toronto today on "standard". shipping was only 37 buc

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Canfield
rd extra "brokerage fee" to > UPS > > to get their stuff. USPS is the ONLY way to ship to Canada. > > > > -Curt > > > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:54:52 -0400 > > From: Gary Hurst > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i usually send stuff USPS to canada as that's what most customers want. on that rare occasion when a customer insists on UPS, i accommodate them and just find it amazing how cheap and fast it is on my end, without regard to the costs on their end. while i won't let them have the dismal chinese p

[MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread rogerhga
Gary, I ship to Canada several times during the year and especially during the Christmas season. While UPS may seem cheaper, they will PO your customers because both they and Fedex charge large "brokerage fees" to simply complete a form. The USPS does not do this. Therefore, in total USPS is ch

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Gary Hurst
na end up paying some absurd extra "brokerage fee" to UPS > to get their stuff. USPS is the ONLY way to ship to Canada. > > -Curt > > > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:54:52 -0400 > From: Gary Hurst > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] UPS is fast and chea

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread mlh
> If I were in Canada and you did that to me I'd never order from you again. > Poor bastards gonna end up paying some absurd extra "brokerage fee" to UPS > to get their stuff. USPS is the ONLY way to ship to Canada. There's a long list of fees. Basic entry prep on a $101 (with shipping) order is $

Re: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond
t To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i sent a box of about 20lbs to toronto today on "standard".  shipping was only 37 bucks.  55 with insurance.  i have to think this is a mistake, but i was

[MBZ] UPS is fast and cheap to canada

2013-09-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i sent a box of about 20lbs to toronto today on "standard". shipping was only 37 bucks. 55 with insurance. i have to think this is a mistake, but i was told it is expected to be delivered on tuesday that's a lot cheaper and faster on my end than USPS! a couple of months ago i overnighted a fai

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Plane had plenty of fuel, since there was a large post-crash fuel fire. That doesn't necessarily mean it was being burned in the engines to make power, though. The "black box" will indicate how much power each engine was producing, flight control movements, altitude, direction, and so forth

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Good point. How could the Investigators determine if the plane literally ran out of fuel - the black box? On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Richard Hattaway writes: > > > The witness on TV who was talking about how it was on fire before it > > crashed also mentioned 'larg

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-16 Thread Allan Streib
Richard Hattaway writes: > The witness on TV who was talking about how it was on fire before it > crashed also mentioned 'large cracking sound' and 'loud boom' and etc > etc etc.  He looked like he was glad to say whatever it took to make > him famous for a few minutes. Witnesses usually say a l

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-16 Thread Gerry Archer
Read an article some time ago wherein pilots were complaining about airlines cutting them short on fuel in order to haul more passengers/freight. Saw no resolution of the dispute, so I wonder if fuel exhaustion could be the cause? Gerry From: "Andrew Strasfogel" NTSB Investigators saw no ev

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-16 Thread Richard Hattaway
_ From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash I heard on the radio that witnesses said the plane was on fire, maybe engines.  Wonder if they had a failure on an engine? --R On 8/15/13 11:57 PM, Craig wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
NTSB Investigators saw no evidence of a fire. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > An engine fire is possible. They weren't out of fuel (big post-crash > fire) but that doesn't mean it was being delivered to the engines nor that > one or both of them failed. > > Engine fail

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
An engine fire is possible. They weren't out of fuel (big post-crash fire) but that doesn't mean it was being delivered to the engines nor that one or both of them failed. Engine failures these days aren't very common, and P&W makes good ones. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I heard on the radio that witnesses said the plane was on fire, maybe engines. Wonder if they had a failure on an engine? --R On 8/15/13 11:57 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:30:04 -0500 Peter Frederick wrote: Look at the dirt, then consider that it should have been rotating at 25

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
If there had been normal power on (remember the Asiana crash), the engines would be spooled up a mile out. Looks to me as it they were dead. just windmilling, especially since the aircraft also hit some trees before impact. I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but it looks to me as if they we

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Craig
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:30:04 -0500 Peter Frederick wrote: > Look at the dirt, then consider that it should have been rotating at > 25,000 rpm. Ah, yes, and it wouldn't have been as intact as it is if it had been turning at speed. Craig ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Look at the dirt, then consider that it should have been rotating at 25,000 rpm. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailm

Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Craig
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:46:01 -0500 Peter Frederick wrote: > Anybody else notice anything strange about the picture of the engine > of that Airbus? The one I saw is on weather.com. You mean the one with a few guys standing in front of it with nothing else in the area? Where the front fan has a

[MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Anybody else notice anything strange about the picture of the engine of that Airbus? The one I saw is on weather.com. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go t

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? G Mann wrote: >One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread WILTON
My 3 Skidoo (Bombardier) snowmobiles ('71/'72)had CVT's. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? CVT - Constantly (or continuously)

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
idea. Sure its a new application and there are lots of issues to overcome in heavy trucks but the idea isn't new. -Curt Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:02:39 -0700 From: G Mann To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; cha

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Max
G Mann wrote: >One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented >a >very ingenious IVT [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable >of Sounds very cool, I'd wondered when an IVT design would really take over market share. Please keep us posted as you can. The f

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
I wonder if a diesel/electric, like a locomotive, would be efficient? Would have to run the numbers, but that would be interesting -- max torque at 0mph, etc. --R On 4/27/12 1:02 PM, G Mann wrote: One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a very ingenious IVT [I

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread G Mann
One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a very ingenious IVT [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of being developed for use in high load/high horsepower applications. Most interesting in using the IVT in long haul trucks would be the ability to set t

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/04/2012 12:30 AM, Fmiser wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to put in a clutch pedal. Heh. The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop. After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians. --Philip With a good solid

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Peter Hertzing
Well for several years mci and prevost (bus makers) and I'm sure big truck makers as well played with auto sticks where you just used a clutch to start then it was a direct drive automatic. Got a little better mileage. And didn't require shifting. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:30

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
needs to drive at all. -Curt Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:30:37 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? Message-ID: <20120427003037.f45023fa.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Randy Bennell wrote: > If MB i

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Fmiser
> Randy Bennell wrote: > If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to > put in a clutch pedal. Heh. The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop. After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians. --Philip ___ http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Randy Bennell
Yeah, I know - I had to do that with my old Suburban when the tranny was slowly going bad. Gently lift a bit on the 1-2 shift so it would do it nicely. I still see no reason one would waste time on nonsense like this unless there was something wrong with the car that compelled one to do so.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread G Mann
If you become one with your machine... you will be able to float your gear changes... that is all... Some will feel the force and some will not. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fmiser wrote: > > > > Philip wrote: > > > > > > > > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > > > > tr

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Fmiser
> > > Philip wrote: > > > > > > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > > > transmission. > > > > > > -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. > > On 25/04/2012 6:59 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > > > > I have 3 pedals in my 240D. > > Teach me? Are there youtube videos sh

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Rick Knoble
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:57:35 -0500 > From: rbenn...@bennell.ca > > Have to say, I fail to understand why one would need or want to do this? It is very good to know how to do this in the event of a catasrophic failure of the hydraulic system. Rick

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/04/2012 6:59 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -- Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual transmission. -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?( southern MO)

2012-04-26 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore
At 10:32 PM 4/25/2012, Philip wrote: (snip) With very slight pressure against the synchros, it's possible to feel when the speed matches. At that point, a quick "snink" and it's in gear. Hey, you could drive down here to southern MO and help

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Philip
> Philip wrote: > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > transmission. > > -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. Mountain Man wrote: I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice challenge... if

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore
At 07:59 PM 4/25/2012, mao wrote: -- Philip wrote: > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > transmission. > > -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice cha

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread OK Don
I used to drive my 1951 VW manual, no synchro at all, with no clutch - match the engine speed when down shifting just as if you'd double clutched, but with more accuracy, or "crunch". Granted, the power used ws considerably less (25hp when new). On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Fmiser wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mountain Man
--   Philip wrote: > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > transmission. > > --   Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice challenge... if I can keep from wreckin

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Max wrote: Hendrik & Fay wrote: Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. Thanks, that's what I thought. Have done that "in extremis" but never well enough to feel comfortable that I wasn't

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
Hendrik & Fay wrote: >Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver >will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. > > Thanks, that's what I thought. Have done that "in extremis" but never well enough to feel comfortable that I wasn't harming th

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Fmiser
> > > Philip wrote: > > > > > > A good driver will float all the up-shifts. > >On 25/04/12 17:40, Max wrote: > > > > What does it mean to "float an up-shift"? > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good > driver will be able to shift all gears, up and d

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Some years ago I seem to recall my driver showing me an inline 6 that was fuel injected in his "car". I believe he said something about it being able to burn a wide range of fuels. Dan On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > A buddy of mine worked with UPS many years ago to help d

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: > > > I don't see how selling the "cars" could create liability, once a vehicle > > is sold the prior owner is no longer liable I would not think. > > Unless the prior owner designed said vehicle, then he'd be on the ho

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I don't see how selling the "cars" could create liability, once a vehicle is sold the prior owner is no longer liable I would not think. Unless the prior owner designed said vehicle, then he'd be on the hook for any product liability concerns. Mitch. __

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > > > UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity to be a factor. They > > sell them off after a couple of years. > > > No. Some package cars are quite old. > Also, as Tarek

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rich Thomas
A buddy of mine worked with UPS many years ago to help design an engine for the kind of driving the "cars" (the guy who started UPS insisted on this terminology, and I think it was a firing offense to refer to them otherwise) did, back after the initial fuel "shortage" in Jimmy Cahtah days. Di

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity to be a factor. They > sell them off after a couple of years. No. Some package cars are quite old. Also, as Tarek (sp) stated earlier, the retired package cars are destroyed, presumabl

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 11:09 AM, TE wrote: > UPS destroys their package cars when they are retired from service. First, > the package car is stripped of its badging, decals, etc. Next it is painted > white, crushed to pieces and photographed. Really? I had no idea. Why is that? Doesn't seem t

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012, at 07:50 PM, Craig wrote: > I recall the fellow who drove the Inglewood City Lines bus I took to and > from high school. An old diesel with a 4-speed, non-synchro transmission. > He had to double-clutch every shift and did a very good job of it. When I was a kid my school bu

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