Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Can confirm 201 models use this system. I think Fred has one of the valves I bought but never used. -Curt On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:26:46 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: On the peach parts forum, there's a claim that the 201 models used this arrangement, so if there are official MB parts support for things like the vacuum controlled monovalve, that would be huge. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For $100 that looks like a no brainer. These guys are really good, so I’m > sure it is well designed and thought out. > > -D > > > > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant- > circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ > > > > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? > > > > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a > rubber > > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Makes it into the system a 201 uses? -Curt On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:17:40 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
I am on Cloud Nine since installing an OEM insert into my W123 300TD monovalve assembly. I get HEAT now on the COLDEST days. no matter HOW FAST I am driving. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Jaime. > > +1 > > Except for two (genuine MB) diaphragm changes mine still works to spec. > > (1985 300TD) > > > Fred Moir. > Lynn MA. > Diesel preferred. > > > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Jaime > Kopchinski via Mercedes > Sent: 14 February 2018 10:31 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Jaime Kopchinski > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum > controlled? > > Another fix for something that isn’t broken. > > If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find. In fact, > the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly. That > is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user. > > I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a > few times. > > It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better > spendt on just making it work as designed. The cars have run for 30-40 > years with the original design, why change it now? > > Jaime > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Jaime. +1 Except for two (genuine MB) diaphragm changes mine still works to spec. (1985 300TD) Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes Sent: 14 February 2018 10:31 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jaime Kopchinski Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled? Another fix for something that isn’t broken. If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find. In fact, the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly. That is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user. I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a few times. It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better spendt on just making it work as designed. The cars have run for 30-40 years with the original design, why change it now? Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
I would agree for the most part as a purist, however, I see the circulating pump as a time bomb which, if not fused to prevent potential damage to the rest of the system, I would easily replace wth a more reliable arrangement. I noticed the circulating pump on the 400E has been disconnected. Hmm. -D > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Another fix for something that isn’t broken. > > If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find. In fact, > the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly. That > is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user. > > I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a > few times. > > It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better > spendt on just making it work as designed. The cars have run for 30-40 > years with the original design, why change it now? > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:17 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ >> >> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? >> >> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber >> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Amen Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Another fix for something that isn’t broken. > > If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find. In fact, > the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly. That > is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user. > > I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a > few times. > > It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better > spendt on just making it work as designed. The cars have run for 30-40 > years with the original design, why change it now? > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:17 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ >> >> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? >> >> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber >> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Yes 201 had a vacuum controlled heater valve. It sucks. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > On the peach parts forum, there's a claim that the 201 models used this > arrangement, so if there are official MB parts support for things like the > vacuum controlled monovalve, that would be huge. > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> For $100 that looks like a no brainer. These guys are really good, so I’m >> sure it is well designed and thought out. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant- >> circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ >>> >>> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? >>> >>> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a >> rubber >>> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). >>> - >>> Max >>> Charleston SC >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Seems to me the monovalve setup is usually pretty reliable. Seems more reliable that this solution. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ > > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? > > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
124 vice 123: I'd change it because the 1995 E300 Diesel monovalve is not rebuild-able (no insert is sold) and is unique to the 1995 E300 model and is pretty darn pricey from MB ($140 or more? I could be wrong on that). In addition, the replacement monovalve available from MB has a bad reputation for failure within weeks or months of installation (cracks in the plastic body). Knock on wood, mine is working just fine in my E300. However I'm pretty sure the monovalve in my 124.193 is failing and though it is more common, no insert is sold, so rather than roll the dice on an OE part I may take the opportunity to try out this kit. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Another fix for something that isn’t broken. > > If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find. In fact, > the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly. That > is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user. > > I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a > few times. > > It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better > spendt on just making it work as designed. The cars have run for 30-40 > years with the original design, why change it now? > > Jaime > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
Another fix for something that isn’t broken. If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find. In fact, the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly. That is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user. I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a few times. It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better spendt on just making it work as designed. The cars have run for 30-40 years with the original design, why change it now? Jaime On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:17 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ > > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? > > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
On the peach parts forum, there's a claim that the 201 models used this arrangement, so if there are official MB parts support for things like the vacuum controlled monovalve, that would be huge. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For $100 that looks like a no brainer. These guys are really good, so I’m > sure it is well designed and thought out. > > -D > > > > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant- > circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ > > > > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? > > > > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a > rubber > > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
For $100 that looks like a no brainer. These guys are really good, so I’m sure it is well designed and thought out. -D > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ > > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? > > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?
http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/ Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us? I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber diaphragm inside that will eventually fail). - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
