Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread clay via Mercedes
I have not been able to get my massive paws up in the contortions required to access the mechanism. What I could handle has been given a good gooping and spray of PB (the kroil died) has been copious. clay > On Mar 28, 2017, at 1:35 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator -- Clay's issue

2017-03-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I don't remember for sure on a 126. It may have room, and maybe it is 124 where there is not enough room. I know some times I have to use a box wrench. It has been quite a few years since I had one go bad. For a while I was working on 126 windows a lot. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator -- Clay's issue

2017-03-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Maybe, I forget exactly, it has been awhile since I took one out but I vaguely recall being able to get a socket in there. If not a ratcheting bone wrench will work OK. --FT On 3/28/17 10:47 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: 10 mm but probably not a socket. At least not for all. Not

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator -- Clay's issue

2017-03-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
10 mm but probably not a socket. At least not for all. Not enough space. box wrench. Get the toughest one out first. Leave the easiest one for last. that way you can turn out the toughest by hand once it is loose. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes March 28, 2017

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator -- Clay's issue

2017-03-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Exactly, you can feel the screws you have to remove but it helps to have one to refer to as it is kinda tight in there but not that hard to get them off. Then the motor can pop out and you should be able to move the regulator/window by hand. 10mm socket? --FT On 3/28/17 8:02 AM, Curley

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Coupla things -- stripped gears, you will see. Those little plastic sliders have broken, they are "riveted" in. The driven gear arm has popped a rivet (I had this on the TD at one time and repaired with like a 5mm nut/bolt ground down a bit to fit in the area where the rivet was, to get

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nahh, I know who he is. Retired Delta pilot who lives in Ft. Myers. Doesn’t like to do major tinker stuff, would rather pay someone to do it. Asked if I would be willing as a part of the deal, as he hasn’t found a local indie for something like this yet. Wants the car for a toy. Has a

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
A buyer like that is sure to try and bargain with you again after you make the repairs. On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No, I just meant they were physically different. I don’t think I ever had > to change a rear regulator, which is why

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No, I just meant they were physically different. I don’t think I ever had to change a rear regulator, which is why I remarked about it. I figured they were more or less the same front and back. I’ve done the later ones with the cable. Those are weird. I’m working from home today, so I’ll

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Oh, sorry! I thought you meant the operation was different. Yes, front and rear are always different, at least since the 60s. The 124 and newer with the cable rear are way different. On the 123, 126 and earlier, the MBs have curved rack and pinion front and rear, and the removal/problems

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I meant they were different in the way they were constructed. I understand the stripped rack teeth thing. Not so much like the “scissor” arrangement like the ones used on the fronts. I’m going to tear into the door today and see what I find. The window is all the way up and firmly in

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
in that case, you have to unbolt the motor from the regulator. (mostly blind, by feel) a light and mirror can help you visualize what you are up against, but are not much good for the actual bolt removal. clay via Mercedes March 28, 2017 at 12:47 AM I have

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-28 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Have you lubricated all moving parts as well as the motor bearings if accessible? Have you tried Deoxit and WD40 and Rusteater (from Autozone) and all the lesser known lubricants that work for other DIYers? Have you wiggled and pushed on all the mechanical stuff after each lubricant? Have you

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread clay via Mercedes
I have given up the fight on trying to get the regulator out of the passenger side of Allen. The motor does not spin up, so the window is not lowering, which would make it all simple to remove. I think the motor froze, as when power is applied, there is a click or grunt but no motion. clay

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
They are also prone to having the clip that holds the scissor into the window bottom rail break. Usually causes the window to drop, but they can get stuck fully up. Rack moves but is no longer attached to the window. Obvious when you remove the door panel. Peter

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/112258820852?lpid=82=ps_noapp=true See photos. motor, stamped rack gear. Left rear. Dan--- via Mercedes March 27, 2017 at 8:33 PM Rear window, not front. Rears are different. -D ___

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
it stiil has a rack gear and a motor. late ones are stamped. what i said applies, as long as you are still talking about a 126. Dan--- via Mercedes March 27, 2017 at 8:33 PM Rear window, not front. Rears are different. -D Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Rear window, not front. Rears are different. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Late front ones are stamped steel, and the teeth wear/break off. > Car-part.com for a good used regulator and motor. > > I put

Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Late front ones are stamped steel, and the teeth wear/break off. Car-part.com for a good used regulator and motor. I put cast gear regulator in the driver door of one SDL. It was from a gen I 126. You have to swap the motor and regulator together. different sprockets on the motor. My

[MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

2017-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looking into the last of the issues on the 300SEL, I knew the PO said one of the back windows didn’t work, but that was a minor thing I haven’t paid any attention to. I checked it out tonight and found the left rear window doesn’t work. I can hear the motor in both directions, but no movement

Re: [MBZ] W126 rear Window

2006-03-10 Thread John W. Reames III
The trim is pulled out after the window and rubber are out of the car. It bends VERY easily and looks like crap when it does. IIRC I did something cheap and used a couple of bits of high density foam (you could also make little rolls of electrical tape) and use it to hold the wire in the

[MBZ] W126 rear Window

2006-03-09 Thread Peter T . Arnold
I'd like to remove the rear window's trim. this to hide my satellite wire (very small Diameter) under it. After I slide the small center pieces over, does it just pry off? Tap back on with a rubber mallet? -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 1987 300SDL 240KMI 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 190Kmi 1954

Re: [MBZ] W126 rear Window

2006-03-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I'd like to remove the rear window's trim. this to hide my satellite wire (very small Diameter) under it. After I slide the small center pieces over, does it just pry off? Tap back on with a rubber mallet? I'm not sure it goes back in once removed. Some windows have to have the trim put in

Re: [MBZ] W126 rear Window

2006-03-09 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:31:18 -0800, you wrote: I'd like to remove the rear window's trim. this to hide my satellite wire (very small Diameter) under it. After I slide the small center pieces over, does it just pry off? Tap back on with a rubber mallet? I'm not sure it goes back in once

Re: [MBZ] W126 rear Window

2006-03-09 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter T. Arnold wrote: Why not peel the lip of the rubber back where it meets the body and tuck the wire into there? I thought it would be less strain on the wire to put it under the molding. Your way would probably work too. It's unlikely to hurt it to tuck it under the lip. Just