Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
Yeah, the case on mine is pretty beat up. I had take the cover off a couple of years ago and make some adjustments so the front and back covers didn’t push in. Still keeps charging, though. Definitely got our money’s worth out of this one. -D > On Oct 31, 2018, at 6:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just keep fixing the cords on the old Schauer chargers. They keep > working. The 2A got run over by a tractor. I straightened the case and it > has run another 20-30 years since.They are the 240D of chargers, so long > as they are "dumb" chargers. > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> I have an ancient Schauer (sp?) charger that belonged to my Dad. It will >> spike up to 15 amps and taper down automagically. It’s done the job for me >> for a number of decades despite being in rather ratty condition. >> >> -D >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
I just keep fixing the cords on the old Schauer chargers. They keep working. The 2A got run over by a tractor. I straightened the case and it has run another 20-30 years since.They are the 240D of chargers, so long as they are "dumb" chargers. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I have an ancient Schauer (sp?) charger that belonged to my Dad. It will spike up to 15 amps and taper down automagically. It’s done the job for me for a number of decades despite being in rather ratty condition. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
Since I won the Megaballs I just go buy new batteries if one quits --FT On 10/30/18 9:31 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I have a Schauer 10A model I think I bought at Sears. It just works, and has never failed me, and will go where no 'modern' charger will dare to tread. I've been watching for another one, for maybe 20 years now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
I have a Schauer 10A model I think I bought at Sears. It just works, and has never failed me, and will go where no 'modern' charger will dare to tread. I've been watching for another one, for maybe 20 years now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge? Just the Facts please
I much prefer the low amp/slow juicing, but with the diesels I sometimes need to just kick the thing over and hope I get enough of a charge on the way to make it good. The weenie 50 amp schumacher is not enough to convince the engine to spin over with those puny 20 gauge wires from the charger. Maybe I make my own dumb charger out of junker bodies and use welder cable. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > So who knows what about charging car batteries? > I always thought it was bad to charge at a high rate. Better to slowly charge > at a low amperage unless one needed to get the motor started and the battery > did not cooperate. > Now I read on here, that you folks want big chargers with big amperage. > Are you just ruining your batteries or am I incorrect in my assumption that > slow and easy is better? > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge? Just the Facts please
I much prefer the low amp/slow juicing, but with the diesels I sometimes need to just kick the thing over and hope I get enough of a charge on the way to make it good. The weenie 50 amp schumacher is not enough to convince the engine to spin over with those puny 20 gauge wires from the charger. Maybe I make my own dumb charger out of junker bodies and use welder cable. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > So who knows what about charging car batteries? > I always thought it was bad to charge at a high rate. Better to slowly charge > at a low amperage unless one needed to get the motor started and the battery > did not cooperate. > Now I read on here, that you folks want big chargers with big amperage. > Are you just ruining your batteries or am I incorrect in my assumption that > slow and easy is better? > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge? Just the Facts please
I much prefer the low amp/slow juicing, but with the diesels I sometimes need to just kick the thing over and hope I get enough of a charge on the way to make it good. The weenie 50 amp schumacher is not enough to convince the engine to spin over with those puny 20 gauge wires from the charger. Maybe I make my own dumb charger out of junker bodies and use welder cable. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > So who knows what about charging car batteries? > I always thought it was bad to charge at a high rate. Better to slowly charge > at a low amperage unless one needed to get the motor started and the battery > did not cooperate. > Now I read on here, that you folks want big chargers with big amperage. > Are you just ruining your batteries or am I incorrect in my assumption that > slow and easy is better? > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:20:10 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I have an ancient Schauer (sp?) charger that belonged to my Dad. It > will spike up to 15 amps and taper down automagically. It’s done the > job for me for a number of decades despite being in rather ratty > condition. I also have a Schauer I inherited from my Dad, though it's a 6 A model. I haven't needed to use it too much because my BatteryMINDer 12248 and 1510 will start charging a battery even if its voltage is fairly low. I currently have the 12248, which starts charging at 2, 4, or 8 A depending upon how it set it and then tapers to a maintaining/desulfating charge, on our Kenworth, which has four Group 31 950 CCA, 81 AH batteries. I would use the 1510 to maintain the battery on a third vehicle, which we currently do not have ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
I have an ancient Schauer (sp?) charger that belonged to my Dad. It will spike up to 15 amps and taper down automagically. It’s done the job for me for a number of decades despite being in rather ratty condition. -D > On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have Pops’ older wheeled Craftsman Charger which has resurrected many > totally dead bat-trees. I love it! I also have a couple “dumb” chargers for > RC car bat-Trees. > Kevin in Hillsboro OR > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I have a cheapo harbor freight, has 2/10/50 amp settings, does just fine for >> recharging a low battery. Chicago Electric, has a little needle / meter to >> indicate the amp flow and rough state of charge. >> >> I also bought a $10 Amazon-chinee maintainer type, which has a de-sulfinator >> feature, that I leave connected to battery that's not going to be used in >> longer than thirty days. Battery has to be fully charged by the Chicago >> Electric before connecting this, else it goes into error mode and tells me >> the battery is dead. I use this on long term storage, greater than thirty >> days. >> >> If a car is going to sit in my drive for longer than a week or so, I >> disconnect the battery. If the storage goes over thirty days, I pull the >> battery and put it in garage on the cheapo maintainer. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
I have Pops’ older wheeled Craftsman Charger which has resurrected many totally dead bat-trees. I love it! I also have a couple “dumb” chargers for RC car bat-Trees. Kevin in Hillsboro OR Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have a cheapo harbor freight, has 2/10/50 amp settings, does just fine for > recharging a low battery. Chicago Electric, has a little needle / meter to > indicate the amp flow and rough state of charge. > > I also bought a $10 Amazon-chinee maintainer type, which has a de-sulfinator > feature, that I leave connected to battery that's not going to be used in > longer than thirty days. Battery has to be fully charged by the Chicago > Electric before connecting this, else it goes into error mode and tells me > the battery is dead. I use this on long term storage, greater than thirty > days. > > If a car is going to sit in my drive for longer than a week or so, I > disconnect the battery. If the storage goes over thirty days, I pull the > battery and put it in garage on the cheapo maintainer. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
I have a cheapo harbor freight, has 2/10/50 amp settings, does just fine for recharging a low battery. Chicago Electric, has a little needle / meter to indicate the amp flow and rough state of charge. I also bought a $10 Amazon-chinee maintainer type, which has a de-sulfinator feature, that I leave connected to battery that's not going to be used in longer than thirty days. Battery has to be fully charged by the Chicago Electric before connecting this, else it goes into error mode and tells me the battery is dead. I use this on long term storage, greater than thirty days. If a car is going to sit in my drive for longer than a week or so, I disconnect the battery. If the storage goes over thirty days, I pull the battery and put it in garage on the cheapo maintainer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
+1 Look for old chargers at auctions/garage sales. You want one with no electronics at all. A 6/12V switch is ok. 6/8/10 amp. I have an old Schauer 2 A charger (6/12) that I love. Yes, it takes a day or two for a flat battery, but for all but emergency use, that is ok. I use higher amp ones for emergency charging. Too many amps can damage the battery. I have a HF, electronic gizmo, and had to use it last week. It took a while to get the nanny to realize the battery needed a charge, but after a few tries, it worked. Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You need a dumb charger, I can't remember the brand that I have, I bought it around 2003 or so, it'll shove electrons out no matter what, if theres a lot of resistance those electrons won't go anywhere but its at least trying to put them out... I'm curious why you tried 2a though, after 3 hours thats 6ah which is doodly-squat, you group 49 is something like 70ah so if it was totally dead you'd have gotten less than 10% into it. At 10a you'd be closer to half... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
My neighbor has a smart charger. About once a year I take a dumb charger over there to jump start his smart charger. It's too smart to want to charge a dead battery. The old fashioned Shumacher on wheels is on sale for $130 at Advance Auto, but they don't let you use internet coupons on sale items any more. The $100+ purchase would get you $20 off on your next $50 purchase if you join Speedperks, I use the $20 coupons to buy two oil change specials when there's a Mobil One rebate going. > On October 29, 2018 at 8:13 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > You need a dumb charger, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who is in Charge?
You need a dumb charger, I can't remember the brand that I have, I bought it around 2003 or so, it'll shove electrons out no matter what, if theres a lot of resistance those electrons won't go anywhere but its at least trying to put them out... I'm curious why you tried 2a though, after 3 hours thats 6ah which is doodly-squat, you group 49 is something like 70ah so if it was totally dead you'd have gotten less than 10% into it. At 10a you'd be closer to half... -Curt On Monday, October 29, 2018, 8:00:03 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote: TIme for power upgrades. I tried to drive Allen yesterday morning and found her dead as a rock. I figured I could give her a jump with Polei, being diesel to diesel, but all I got after five minutes of electrons flowing over what now seems to be overly fine wire gauge (maybe I need to invest in 00) was a wincing shrug of an attempt by the starter. Screw it, I had Polei running, so I took her. I got home post game and tossed the sears charger (smart 2/10/50) at 2amp at the battery. I just installed the group 49 in June, battery born 4/18, so was bewildered that the battery was non responsive. Three hours of two amps made no impact on the battery, so I popped it to 50 amp start mode and gave it a chance to put some electrons back in the box. No avail. No action at all from a turn of the key. And, the charger was pretty warm, it was getting dark, and I was not interested in messing about with electrons in the rain. The charger and battery came inside and I put it to charge low and slow over night. No electrons in the box this morning and just a warm charger. Multimeter found 2.8v in the battery and no voltage from the charger. This forced me to unhook the battery tender widget from the R107 and put the battery on that. The Diehard charger just moans and gets warm with no lights or needle action, nor expulsion of electrons out the clamps. I have the receipt for the battery, and will visit the vendor if she does not take a charge. What I would like is the group consensus on replacement charger for my gaggle of group 49 batteries. All are fairly new (under 18 months). I am tempted to get a wheeled charger with ability to jump a cold winter battery at this point. Or, should I get a standard Schumacher set up for $75 with low and high amp? What of a few of the low cost things and just keep them under the hood of each car? clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Who is in Charge?
TIme for power upgrades. I tried to drive Allen yesterday morning and found her dead as a rock. I figured I could give her a jump with Polei, being diesel to diesel, but all I got after five minutes of electrons flowing over what now seems to be overly fine wire gauge (maybe I need to invest in 00) was a wincing shrug of an attempt by the starter. Screw it, I had Polei running, so I took her. I got home post game and tossed the sears charger (smart 2/10/50) at 2amp at the battery. I just installed the group 49 in June, battery born 4/18, so was bewildered that the battery was non responsive. Three hours of two amps made no impact on the battery, so I popped it to 50 amp start mode and gave it a chance to put some electrons back in the box. No avail. No action at all from a turn of the key. And, the charger was pretty warm, it was getting dark, and I was not interested in messing about with electrons in the rain. The charger and battery came inside and I put it to charge low and slow over night. No electrons in the box this morning and just a warm charger. Multimeter found 2.8v in the battery and no voltage from the charger. This forced me to unhook the battery tender widget from the R107 and put the battery on that. The Diehard charger just moans and gets warm with no lights or needle action, nor expulsion of electrons out the clamps. I have the receipt for the battery, and will visit the vendor if she does not take a charge. What I would like is the group consensus on replacement charger for my gaggle of group 49 batteries. All are fairly new (under 18 months). I am tempted to get a wheeled charger with ability to jump a cold winter battery at this point. Or, should I get a standard Schumacher set up for $75 with low and high amp? What of a few of the low cost things and just keep them under the hood of each car? clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
