Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Mitch Haley wrote: Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife claims the 2.0? The 722 series transmissions wear every time they shift and hardly wear at all while in gear running. So to minimize transmission wear, minimize shifting. During the 10 years I was driving from Pittsburgh to Washington DC and back weekly, I counted the number of shifts that my 300TD made on the trip and the number of shifts that my 190Ds (with automatics) made. The 190D shifted not quite twice as often. Around town the number of shifts was much closer to the same. That corresponds with the average life of the a 722.4 transmission in a 201 vs a 722.3 transmission in a 123/124/126. In city driving, both transmissions give similar life (150-200kmi), but in highway service, the average 722.3 transmission will last quite a bit longer (all other things being equal). I believe that the BIGGEST factor is engine power. The more powerful engines allow the transmission to last longer by allowing the engine to propel the car satisfactorily with many fewer shifts! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. The B-2 piston shattering was unique to the 722.3 transmissions, but the 722.4 B-2 pistons or bands CAN fail and the resulting symptom is exactly the same. They don't fail nearly as often because the parts were redesigned (just as the revised, replacement 722.3 parts were). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife claims the 2.0? We have a 2.5 NA. I did look it over thinking all the goodies would be there to convert ours or another, possibly throwing a 5spd into the mix. This particular car is really clapped out and ~ 600 miles away. I'm going to finish present projects, then look for something fun like that. In this way I would not stress-out my excellent Wife. She will,however want me to get into a fun project that she can also enjoy. She has recently suggested we overhaul my old Harley FLH together and do a little touring in the future. I am a lucky man to have her in my life. In my wildest dreams I never thought it could be this good. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Kevin wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: > > I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? > > I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less > immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife claims the 2.0?
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
the 722.4 does not have a b2 piston Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: > I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. K
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
OK Don wrote: > > I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I don't know. My 190 turbo has a hood star and working tranny, and the same color interior, but I'm not traveling to Maryland to pick up another project car.
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Why can't that be closer? Bob Rentfro (looking for a friend for the 300D) - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190D-2-5-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4608323992QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190D-2-5-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4608323992QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net