Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I didn't have time to mess with it so I just had it towed to Herbert the mechanic. It was definitely the ignition switch as the spring return on the start position seems totally gone and the key rotates way past where it should without any glow or other signs of life. I expect it will need the new

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-16 Thread MG via Mercedes
Wow that takes me back. I've played on one of those a long time ago. MG Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Reminds me of the one that went around the office for one of the older guys, titled "Gary's new workstation" On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 13:13, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: We know how

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Most likely, but check your neutral safety switch first once you’ve confirmed the battery is good. The electrical portion of the ignition switch can be replaced without having to replace the whole assembly. It’s a bit of a PITA to do in-frame, but it can be done with an offset screwdriver and so

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just > fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due > to the switch behind the ignition key? Headlights work fine and it has a > newish AGM battery. But no power to windows or anything else except

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Check the battery connection. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 3:57 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just > fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due > to the switch behin

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due to the switch behind the ignition key? Headlights work fine and it has a newish AGM battery. But no power to windows or anything else except the ciga

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I miss that sound. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 2:13 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We know how that picture sounds. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > very welcome > > >

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Reminds me of the one that went around the office for one of the older guys, titled "Gary's new workstation" On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 13:13, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > We know how that picture sounds. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles via Mer

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
We know how that picture sounds. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > very welcome > >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Dwight. >> Until I burst out laughing it neve

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
very welcome On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dwight. > Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good > laugh today. > Thank you! > Fred. > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Dwight. Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good laugh today. Thank you! Fred. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > *snort*! > Saving that one for later. > > -Curt > > > > > > > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
*snort*! Saving that one for later. -Curt On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] diagnostics

2022-08-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
How true! Huzzah for analog -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On February 2, 2016 at 8:40 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 22:58:39 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > At this point I'm convinced it doesn't make sense to pay for somebody > > else to mess up something I can mess up perfectly well myself. > > He

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
; Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics Don't blame it on the computer when its not the computer's fault... My Indy that messed up delivery seals on my '85 190D and created a runaway condition didn't do it because of a computer.At this po

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
At this point I'm convinced it doesn't make sense to pay for somebody else to mess up something I can mess up perfectly well myself. -Curt I figured that out 43 years ago. Before cars, the only thing I farmed out was gunsmithing, and I never had any reason not to do that. The average guns

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 22:58:39 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > At this point I'm convinced it doesn't make sense to pay for somebody > else to mess up something I can mess up perfectly well myself. Here's one for the Quotes Page! Craig ___ http:

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
o mess up something I can mess up perfectly well myself. -Curt From: "redgh...@comcast.net" To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics Computers can not cover for incipient stupidity.  Dealer idi

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Computers can not cover for incipient stupidity. Dealer idiots were not able to get over their own stupidity to see the issue with the aromatic. They got hung up on the computer telling them things that led to waste of time and cash to remedy. Installed a fresh pump, pair of sensors, and it boi

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread redghost--- via Mercedes
nt: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:17:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics People are scared of the computers but I don't know why. The computer helps you troubleshoot exactly the problem rather than just shotgunning parts. Which reminds me, the '05 Golf turbo seems to spool up late, I w

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:05 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > After a big EMP event, my 82 SD will be one of the few cars that will still > run. The radio and HVAC will be fused but it will star

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
st' Cc: Scott Ritchey Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics After a big EMP event, my 82 SD will be one of the few cars that will still run.  The radio and HVAC will be fused but it will start  (I may need to trick the glow timer) and run, at least until the ba

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
People are scared of the computers but I don't know why. Because when the computer itself goes bad, a non-uncommon occurrence, you either get a new one or scrap the car. And they're expensive, usually unique to that exact model and year of car, and only available from a single source. And the i

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I am getting quite good at unplugging the alarm. In fact today, I took the whole alarm computer out of POSitive this afternoon. I unplugged it a couple months ago. I think you are misinterpreting FORD. To me it is when you are driving along and the engine dies and you can't move the car. A

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
rly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics > > >People are scared of the computers but I don't know why. The computer > >helps you troubleshoot exactly the problem rather than just shotgunning > >parts. > >Which reminds me, the '05 Gol

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Well, interesting dissertation. My W126, 300SDL, did leave me FORD once - due to a faulty factory alarm system that would not let it crank, even with a jump from another MB Diesel. Had to unplug the alarm system computer to get the car to move again. IIRC, this group diagnosed the issue for me. So,

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I agree completely. This is why I’m concerned about the W220 and want to get back to a W126 diesel. Dan > On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well, my 123.124 or 126 diesels with mechanical fuel injection don't need a > computer, don't need a crank position

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
People are scared of the computers but I don't know why. The computer helps you troubleshoot exactly the problem rather than just shotgunning parts. Which reminds me, the '05 Golf turbo seems to spool up late, I was hoping an Italian tune up would help but I've been driving the snot out of it a

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
nd a Windows PC. Interestingly I'm running Windows in > Virtual Box on a Mac and it works just fine... > > -Curt > > > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > To: Mercedes List > Cc: Dan Penoff > Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 6:06 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Di

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Diagnostic Dan the Martha Man --R On 2/1/16 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: A good example of how you don’t always need a fancy DAS system to work on later cars: S430 cranks but won’t start after a stop on the way home from work. Sat and let it cool off for maybe 15-20 minutes. Cra

Re: [MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
C. Interestingly I'm running Windows in Virtual Box on a Mac and it works just fine... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] Diagnostics A good example of how you don’t always need a fa

[MBZ] Diagnostics

2016-02-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A good example of how you don’t always need a fancy DAS system to work on later cars: S430 cranks but won’t start after a stop on the way home from work. Sat and let it cool off for maybe 15-20 minutes. Cranks right up. Crankshaft position sensor, I’m betting. Classic symptoms. Drive the ca