Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-30 Thread Nick Gough
Dave/Marshall, The idea of me doing that test is totally out of the question... well, almost. :>) I've done some weird things with repairing cars, like forgetting to release the parking brake before removing the rear rotors (the front wheels were blocked). I was thinking they were just rus

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-30 Thread dave walton
That sounds very similar to the symptoms when my head gasket blew (603.971). Oil started leaking into the #1 cylinder. Be careful about cranking/running it at all now. When I pulled the head, the #1 piston did not protrude as far as the others and I had to replace the connecting rod. Looking back,

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
could this be a problem on my 617? On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:43:42 -0600, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then p

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-30 Thread Zeitgeist
Good call, the compression test is first in line, before I start throwing $ at it. On 11/29/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd check the compression of #1 to see if the seal between the the > cylinder and the oil passage has failed. > > Valve stem/seal problems producing the symp

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-30 Thread Marshall Booth
Zeitgeist wrote: My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then progressed to a little puff of blue upon acceleration and is now emitting a minor cloud on acceleration and at idle. Me

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-30 Thread Zeitgeist
My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then progressed to a little puff of blue upon acceleration and is now emitting a minor cloud on acceleration and at idle. Methinks valve stem s

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-29 Thread dave walton
The oil-in-the-face incident was with a warm engine. When running with 15w-50, it smokes considerably less than when running 5w-40 when warm. That is to say that 5w-40 smoked constantly and running 15w-50 produces no noticeable smoke when cruising, but still lets me "floor it" after I've been drivi

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-29 Thread Marshall Booth
dave walton wrote: My 94 S350 turbo leaks oil into the intake manifold if I use M-1 5w-40. Switching to 15w-50 essentially fixed the problem. I have never been able to measure any detectable difference in oil consumption when using Mobil 5W-40 vs 15W-50 synthetics in any OM60x engine that was

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-29 Thread Marshall Booth
dave walton wrote: My 94 S350 turbo leaks oil into the intake manifold if I use M-1 5w-40. Switching to 15w-50 essentially fixed the problem. Here is how I diagnosed it: 1) Fill with Mobil-1 5w-40 Truck and SUV. 2) remove the over-the-engine pipe that connects the turbo to the intake manifold. 3

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-29 Thread dave walton
My 94 S350 turbo leaks oil into the intake manifold if I use M-1 5w-40. Switching to 15w-50 essentially fixed the problem. Here is how I diagnosed it: 1) Fill with Mobil-1 5w-40 Truck and SUV. 2) remove the over-the-engine pipe that connects the turbo to the intake manifold. 3) start the car. 4) s

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Gough
Marshall, During the last 3 weeks, when I did not have the car plugged-in at night during the colder weather, it blew blue smoke out the tailpipe upon statrup. As soon as the engine warms up just a little bit, the smoke disappears. It is also a bit slower than normal, too. I cha

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-29 Thread Peter Frederick
If the turbo seals are leaking, you will have excess oil consumption and lots of oil in the intake. Hard to tell the difference between normal blowby and excess, though... If the rear seal is leaking from bad bearings, you will have blue smoke after idling and on acceleration. Easy test it

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Marshall Booth wrote: > Of the fewer than a dozen turbos I know of that were rebuilt/replaced to > cure oil consumption, less than half of the replacements lowered oil > consumption. I recall reading in a magazine article 10-20 years ago that one of the turbo companies (maybe AirResearch?) claimed

Re: [MBZ] Turbo Seal

2005-11-28 Thread Donald Snook
Nick Gough wrote: "I've just been told by my mechanic that the reason for a loss of oil in the 300SDL is most likely due to the turbo seal going bad. Sigh... I was wanting to get some other (cosmetic) things fixed on that beast. That will now have to wait... if I have to replace the turbo."

Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Nick Gough wrote: I've just been told by my mechanic that the reason for a loss of oil in the 300SDL is most likely due to the turbo seal going bad. They explained that the seal between the 2 halves of the turbo could be leaking oil as there is some oil around that area of the engine compartme

[MBZ] turbo seal?

2005-11-28 Thread Nick Gough
I've just been told by my mechanic that the reason for a loss of oil in the 300SDL is most likely due to the turbo seal going bad. They explained that the seal between the 2 halves of the turbo could be leaking oil as there is some oil around that area of the engine compartment. It seems to be m