Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
Well, my current Mac Mini is a Core Duo, so it's pretty up to date. Even have two screens running on it. :) On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i actually use mine for EVERYTHING, but i have the advantage of having a quad G5 with 8 gig, so no shortage

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
you run a second monitor how? On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:07 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: Well, my current Mac Mini is a Core Duo, so it's pretty up to date. Even have two screens running on it. :) On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you run a second monitor how? HDMI output for one monitor, DVI for the other. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't get it. there is only one plug. you split it between 2 monitors? On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:36 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you run a second monitor how? HDMI output for one monitor,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-27 Thread Dwight Giles
Thanks Greg this is helpful. I am going to print it out and take it with me on thursday when I go see orthopedic surgeon for 2nd opinion on my knees.Not sure I have courage to get both done at once. In any case I will get right one done soon-probably at end of the semester. Dwight Dwight On Oct

[MBZ] Fwd: old macs

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i don't get it. there is only one plug. you split it between 2 monitors? Nope. The newer Minis have two video outputs. One is DVI, the other HDMI. http://d.facdn.net/art/marmelmm/1373143359.marmelmm_gedc0287.jpg

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread dseretakis
I still have my 1988 Mac II:) it still works! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i actually use mine for EVERYTHING, but i have the advantage of having a quad G5 with 8 gig, so no shortage of power. nothing to speak of by current

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
My main laptop for dragging to work and on trips is a TiBook 1 GHz (2003), and my desktop is a MDD dual G4. I've been experimenting with later MacBook Pro's (reflowing the video chips), but I don't think they are as reliable. Good, solid machines. Peter

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
I still have an old Mac II fx, which I got simply because it was cheap (surplus from my neighbor's work) and cost $10,000 new. Works fine so far as I know, we used it to do the newsletter for the homebrew club for years until the monitor blew. Pretty spiff for 1990: 40 MHz Motorola

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a G4 Quicksilver sitting in the back bedroom acting as a backup machine. That's about as old as mine get. My current machine (which just recently replaced a C2D 20 iMac) is a Mac Pro 1,1 Intel. I want to upgrade the processors to 5355s and make it an 8 core machine, but I'm just not

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That would be like putting a Chevy engine in a 300TD turbodiesel with a blown motor. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, shane ede. did he explain why he couldn't fix it? i have a guy you can contact as well, but he is sort of retired (lives on 20

Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess

2013-10-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
*If that doesn't work, we use generic Lectric Shave soaked into chunks of Magic Eraser to remove paint at work. Works fine, doesn't damage plastic! :D -MMM* I love these folk remedies. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:39 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: If that doesn't work, we

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Finding a working movement that age is difficult, as no one has been having those watches serviced for quite some time. They most often appear from estate sales, where the watch has been sitting in a drawer unused for 20 or 30 years. They almost never run properly as acquired, and not

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That would be like putting a Chevy engine in a 300TD turbodiesel with a blown motor. No, it'd be like buying a rusty 300TD and swapping the motor into your 300TD with the blown engine. The difference is the 300TD's engine has a serial number on it and watch movements

Re: [MBZ] Versa Trailer for Mitch

2013-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: http://jxn.craigslist.org/for/4144579777.html Wow, that's the cleanest one I've seen in a long time. Stored indoors by the look of it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
so if you put the same movementas yours from a different watch in your watch it would e like putting a chevy engine in a 300TD? why would you say this ? On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: That would be like putting a Chevy engine in a 300TD

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
old watchmakers have thousands of movements and parts plus tons of it shows up on ebay. yes, it will likely require service. it's what i would do to solve this problem. first i'd find someone who can fix anything to declared it unfixable. then i'd replace the movement with another of the same

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 11:54 PM -0400 10/26/13, Gary Hurst wrote: basically to run an email client or it can do more than that? Email, limited Net access and iTunes, basically. In a pinch, I can do simple graphics work on it. i had a bunch of pismos i gave away to some kid Got a stack of junker Pismos in

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, i loved that pismo. had 2 or 3 working ones and a few parts ones. i wish someone built a machine like that today. i liked how you could either plug in a drive or an extra battery :) i also had some small investment in PCMCIA stuff. not sure what happened to that. probably in the ex

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: so if you put the same movementas yours from a different watch in your watch it would e like putting a chevy engine in a 300TD? why would you say this Andrew is a purist to a fault. He got a California engine for his

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Pismo's were great -- with two batteries, I got upwards of 8 hours of run time, specially after new cells in the batteries. However, it was slow as molasses with Word, which I'm stuck with, and much heavier than the TiBook. My TiBook is back to full function now -- I lost a screw out of

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread dseretakis
I remember when the II fx was all the rage! The only one I ever saw was in a graphic design studio in Camden, Maine back in the early nineties. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: I still have an old Mac II fx, which I got simply

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] the irony of it (watch related)

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
ok, but his analogy is incorrect. my suggestion is similar to replacing a 300TD engine with another 300TD engine, yet he says it is the same as a chevrolet engine. i'd like to know his logic On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:04

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either (self-igniting Powerbooks aside, as that wasn't a Apple issue, it was a Sony battery issue that persisted for some years). Now they are high priced self-destructing throw- aways -- my

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i still like big free standing desktop units. i dont' see how those laptops can work out consistently On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Don't know if desktops are a habit or a requirement, but for most people it doesn't make any difference. In fact, for a lot of people, a smart phone is all they really use. Me, I have a couple SCSI scanners attached, two printers (and soon three when I get the BW R1800 fixed), so a

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
Speaking of reballing GPUs in G5 iMacs and others, I have two 20 G5 iMacs on my bench that need cap replacements. I have the caps, but I don't have a soldering iron that is hot enough for the newer solder they used. I should put one of those on my list Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 27,

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't know how many smartphones have 3 28 screens. i want big video and big audio On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't know if desktops are a habit or a requirement, but for most people it doesn't make any difference. In fact, for a lot of

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between the iPad and my desktop I can pretty much do everything I need. I don't miss the laptop at all. I would say that had I been able to find some sort of cellular arrangement for

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i rarely need to be away from my computer, but i think a tablet would be adquate for me in that situation On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
The Android OS on the HP TouchPad did everything I needed and more, and it was easily configurable and allowed me to tinker under the hood all I wanted. The was purportedly a Euro version of it that had LTE, but I've never seen one. The only determining factor was connectivity, but to be

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Speaking of bad caps, I have a MacBook Pro that is totally inert now except that the battery charges. Any chance of a blow fuse or bad cap on the logic board keeping it from booting? Acts as if the logic board has now power, and I don't really have the tools to investigate. Peter

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 1:55 PM -0400 10/27/13, Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, i loved that pismo. had 2 or 3 working ones and a few parts ones. i wish someone built a machine like that today. i liked how you could either plug in a drive or an extra battery :) Yep! With two batteries in good nick, that thing would

Re: [MBZ] Yuppie White Dude who has not shaved pitches new Maybachish S-Klasse

2013-10-27 Thread clay
That is just the car SWMBA needs for when she moves to the great white north. Heated everything and 4matic. Should not see her for months clay On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: And he forgot to take the tag out of his suit jacket too.

Re: [MBZ] 1000SEL

2013-10-27 Thread clay
The rear badge is upside down clay On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-1986/AGC-AD-13909220/?Cr=3sdmvc=1 All you need is someone to do the driving or chuck the kids in the back and forget about em. Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] Yuppie White Dude who has not shaved pitches new Maybachish S-Klasse

2013-10-27 Thread Rich Thomas
If the unshaven dude comes with the car, she might never return, whichever way he drives. --R On 10/27/13 5:37 PM, clay wrote: That is just the car SWMBA needs for when she moves to the great white north. Heated everything and 4matic. Should not see her for months clay On Oct 25, 2013,

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread clay
Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of firewire externals for all my junk. Media Mac is a 2009 MacMini hooked to a 42 Sony. External drive has iTunes and ripped video. Two

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, that's kinda what i'm talking about. someone finally understands! On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of

[MBZ] M(ac)B question

2013-10-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Actually it is a Mac 9 question, which they call Maverick for some reason completely unclear, but whatever... Is anyone using this? I have a 2yr old imac that is running 10.6.8 and was thinking about installing this, but it would cost me $50 to upgrade Parallels to run under it, so I am not

Re: [MBZ] M(ac)B question

2013-10-27 Thread Allan Streib
Personally I'd wait until they release the next version, unless there's something you really need in Mavericks. I like to stay one major release behind, things are much more stable that way. Allan On Sun, Oct 27, 2013, at 06:18 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Actually it is a Mac 9 question, which

Re: [MBZ] M(ac)B question

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I just built a bootloader with Chameleon to boot into Mavericks with my Mac Pro 1,1 which actually shows as a 2,1 due to the use of a firmware update. http://batmanofzurenarh.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/install-mac-os-x-10-9-mavericks-developer-preview-on-a-mac-pro-11/ netkas does some really nice

Re: [MBZ] M(ac)B question

2013-10-27 Thread clay
I have yet to attempt an install. MacPro is too old to take it. I might attempt it on the Mini after I do a full carbon copy of the disk clay On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Actually it is a Mac 9 question, which they call Maverick for some reason completely unclear, but

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Brian Toscano
My buddy still uses his G5 w/ 30 Cinema display bit admits its getting tired. I still have my 2007 17 MBP though it too is getting tired. I don't need screens to just appear, but as the software becomes more complex it gets slower and slower. It can't really keep up with my scanner like newer

Re: [MBZ] old macs

2013-10-27 Thread Jim Cathey
quad G5 with 8 gig, so no shortage of power. nothing to speak of by current standards but adequate The 30 screen on my wife's is nice. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess

2013-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Popcorn ceiling is loose, at least some of the foam beads are barely attached. I had a little helicopter toy, actually just a 8 rotor blade, weighed a couple of ounces, when I was a kid. If I revved it hard it would go up to the ceiling and hover against it for a couple of seconds before it

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley
My old D.O. had his done together. Don't know what brand of replacements he got, but he drove to my office a couple of days after the surgery to pick up his grandsons (my boss was his son). He'd closed his office for the whole week and got bored after two days of recuperation. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
Probably had lead and asbestos. That explains a lot. grin I had a wind up tractor with rubber treads. It had one of those wheels that spun against a flint and made sparks out the exhaust. Never get that past the regulators today. Dan On Oct 27, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 1000SEL

2013-10-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-1986/AGC-AD-13909220/?Cr=3sdmvc=1 All you need is someone to do the driving or chuck the kids in the back and forget about em. Is V126 the name of the extra long 126 chassis, or does the engine have two

[MBZ] it's off topic - but not Apple

2013-10-27 Thread Mountain Man
Started to watch youtube about Koch Industries - yeah, slamming the conservatives money class spending dollars to win political position. Is there an equal slam of the progressives money class spending dollars to win political position? If slam is against Koch's spending, why no slam on... who?

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-27 Thread Allan Streib
Did you have general anesthesia or spinal block? On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:17 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Hi All: I've just been through an experience that may be of interest to some of you who are probably in the same age group as I am (68 y.o.). On 10/8 I underwent surgery to

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic - but not Apple

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Because they all tell everyone where they are spending their money instead of hiding it and claiming they don't. Big difference. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-27 Thread Craig
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:43:28 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Did you have general anesthesia or spinal block? GA, I would hope! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-27 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Spinal with general feel-good meds. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement Did you have general anesthesia or

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-27 Thread Greg Fiorentino
That is hard for me to imagine. Just the level of pain meds I have been on precludes driving, but even without I don't feel like I have the muscular capability yet for driving. Perhaps he had some bilateral orthoscopic instead of total replacement??? -Original Message- From: Mercedes