Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Hendrik and Fay
If I understand the system correctly, the valve determines the height by filling the struts until the point is reached where the valve goes into neutral. I like to think of the struts as hydraulic cylinders with a relief function which allows the car to ride nice. That relief function is

[MBZ] British bargain

2014-04-20 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
This would be a challenge for Dan. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02886/POTD-E-TYPE_2886854c.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
A better suggestion: get a laser printer. Higher upfront costs, but a lot easier and cheaper to use, IMHO. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are some tips for cleaning Epson printer heads (I've done more than a few, just

[MBZ] Curious wisdom of Steven Wright

2014-04-20 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
** ** ** *1 - I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. 2 - Borrow money from pessimists -- they don't expect it back. 3 - Half the people you know are below average. 4 - 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. 5 - 82.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. 6 - A conscience is what hurts

[MBZ] Happy Easter

2014-04-20 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
*A man is driving along a highway and sees a rabbit* *jump out across the middle of the road.* *He swerves to avoid hitting it, but unfortunately the* *rabbit jumps right in front of the car.** ** The driver, a sensitive man as well as an animal* *lover, pulls over and gets out to see what has

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-20 Thread Peter Frederick
You wouldn't make that suggestion if you compared color photographs printed on the two machines. You will be very frustrated if you use an Epson photo printer for plain text, though. It will look perfect, but the ink is expensive and you will have trouble with the color when you do print

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
A better suggestion: get a laser printer. That's how we ended up with the Phaser printer. So far, so good. All our BW printing is on HP laser printers. It's the color that is problematic. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
If I understand the system correctly, the valve determines the height by filling the struts until the point is reached where the valve goes into neutral. Yes, and that point is _supposed_ to be (approximately) the center of travel of the cylinders. I suspect that here there is additional

Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread David Bruckmann
Not exactly. The system achieves a base pressure irrespective of the position of the valve. It can be in the drain position, the system will still pressurise. If the control lever reaches the filling position because of added load (or maladjustment) it will admit more fluid to raise the car

Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
I had a Minolta color laser printer that did a good job, but color laser is not ideal for photos. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: A better suggestion: get a laser printer. That's how we ended up with the Phaser printer. So far,

[MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n

2014-04-20 Thread Rich Thomas
No cat food content however http://jalopnik.com/why-i-love-mercedes-twin-turbo-v8s-1563742663 http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-coupe-suv-concept-is-benzs-bmw-x6-1565261075 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Did anyone se the Binz wagon on BAT today? I'm in love. Dan On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No cat food content however http://jalopnik.com/why-i-love-mercedes-twin-turbo-v8s-1563742663 http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-coupe-suv-concept-is-benzs-bmw-x6-1565261075

[MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I guess you could say my heart wasn't really in it. I decided it would make much more sense to get a W123 or W124 wagon with a trailer hitch. I know how to fix them, can get cheap parts, and they're not

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
4k, they are on crack. More like $400 maybe. On 4/20/2014 7:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I guess you could say my heart wasn't really in it. I decided it would make much more sense to get a W123 or

Re: [MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n

2014-04-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/19/no-reserve-1964-mercedes-benz-fintail-wagon/ On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did anyone se the Binz wagon on BAT today? I'm in love. Dan On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No cat food content however

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i knew a guy in NJ once who had a simply cherry silver 300TD. maybe you can buy his? On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I guess you could say my heart wasn't

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Rick Knoble
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:08:02 -0400 From: jaime...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] I'm back So lets talk about Mercedes! I have temporarily given up on my search for a pick up truck... I thought that you and your BIL went in

[MBZ] W124 Fog Lights

2014-04-20 Thread LarryT
Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Headlight switch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 1:37 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on

[MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
If both bulbs are burned out, the light out won't detect the problem. It measures the current flow to each side of the car. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 1:38 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
I think the pump rebuild kits aren't too expensive, but more expensive than a fluid change. After you replace the spheres, change the fluid and watch the color. If engine oil it's contaminating, would the fluid level change? Would the engine oil level change? Easiest way to change the fluid is

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights

2014-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. Aren't L R fogs fused separately? I thought I recalled that the usual MB fuse box had 6

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights

2014-04-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Could be the bulb-out unit as well, if the solder cracks on the pins (as lead free solder is known to do) the fuses will be hot but no current gets to the lamps. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Rich Thomas
cool stuff --R On 4/20/14 8:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: So lets talk about Mercedes! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] 380 is a 560, original owner, hmmm

2014-04-20 Thread Rich Thomas
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4431768880.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread Rich Thomas
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] 300TD for Jaime

2014-04-20 Thread Rich Thomas
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4409892134.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods?

2014-04-20 Thread Larry
Hi all, I forgot to ask if the hose to the various vacuum pods will need replacing? Or perhaps just nip the ends if cracked?I'll buy a meter to have some on hand.But nothing extravagant? Thanks! Larry 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That's a real can of worms, with a tad of incomprehensible gibberish thrown in for good measure. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4430053026.html --R ___

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the

Re: [MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods?

2014-04-20 Thread WILTON
'Didn't notice any damages at all to mine in '08 - 22 years old by then. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods? Hi all, I forgot to ask if the hose to the

Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread WILTON
Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and you'll get dual airbags and anti lock brakes, which the 123 almost certainly will not have. Score a hitch from euro land, it will bolt right in, and you will have 1700 kg towing capacity. Max

Re: [MBZ] 380 is a 560, original owner, hmmm

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
Scammer, perhaps? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are

Re: [MBZ] 300TD for Jaime

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
Hope those pics were taken before the SLS valve rebuild, the rear end looks too low to my eye... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4409892134.html --R

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
Springs first, you have good evidence they are wrong springs... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and

Re: [MBZ] Vacuumk Hose for Pods?

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
The hoses are the typical hard plastic lines. Since they're not subjected to the kinds of temperatures that you see under the hood, they should be OK. I wouldn't worry about replacing them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi all, I

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Dan Penoff
That's *hydroscopic* Darned autocorrect. Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Greg Fiorentino
hydrous optic Hygroscopic? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
As long as you don't care what your car looks like andrew Who is enamored of his 2 boxy, faux chic W123 wagons. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You can probably find a nice '95 wagon for the same or less money than an equivalent 123 wagon, and

Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
I think it needs to be un-pimped... http://youtu.be/l1jSPw5OSWw Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread Dwight Giles
I thought the wheels spoke your name. On Apr 20, 2014 6:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, yes, the wheels make it especially desirable, huh? No, thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] grid

2014-04-20 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: Or this? And this one is just up the road - nice!! Thanks. I suppose even hobby lobby might have this type of stuff and that is just a short bike ride. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Dwight Giles
Well not to start a 123/124 flame but I love /loved the looks of my 123 sedans and CD. That said, for the last 8 years my daily driver has been a 124 sedan that I think is butt ugly. Pun intended- rear too narrow etc But it is the best car I have ever owned over 50 years in terms of driving and

Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread WILTON
Grossly. Wilt - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL I think it needs to be un-pimped... http://youtu.be/l1jSPw5OSWw Max

Re: [MBZ] Replacement for Wilton's SDL

2014-04-20 Thread Dwight Giles
Well yes. I think the wheels are the least of the problems of this beauty. Dwight. On Apr 20, 2014 8:41 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Grossly. Wilt - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread WILTON
123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still miss my '80 240D. 'Best riding/driving, though, is 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still miss my '80 240D. 'Best riding/driving, though, is 126. Is the 124 the best handling car you've had? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes I miss my 240D's too. I won't argue with you about a 126. I have never owned one but have driven several I lust in my heart for one. On Apr 20, 2014 8:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 123's are STILL very good looking cars. A well maintained, immaculate one is fantastic. 'Still

Re: [MBZ] 300TD for Jaime

2014-04-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
That doesn't look bad... but if he ran it on anything but diesel, I wouldn't buy it. Jaime On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4409892134.html --R ___

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I'd rather a 123 over a 124 for several reasons... I still have a 123 as my daily driver. A 124 wagon would be fine for me for what I need... earlier gas ones don't seem to be too valuable. Jaime On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Well not to start a

[MBZ] ML350BT? and 91 350 SDL status

2014-04-20 Thread Angelo Giaimo
Wife really likes a 2011 ML350BT at a local dealer. CPO, low miles. Anything I should look out for with this vehicle? Only issues I know of are potential leaking oil cooler and no transmission dipstick. Are these real issues? ( if it's covered to 100k miles). Anything else? BTW, our friends

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Rick Knoble
Ya gotta love auto correct. Rick

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Dwight Giles
Well I really wouldn't argue that. My 79 240D was my daily driver for years. That's on I95 going into Boston. Succumbed to tin worm at ~ 300k miles. As they say they're all good- oh wait a minute then there are the rusty 210's. On Apr 20, 2014 8:53 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
Early 124 wagons suffer from cracking rear subframe mounts. Later years had beefier metal in back, no cracking. Plus they look much better than the early models, came with stock euro headlights. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 8:53 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I'd

Re: [MBZ] Sorta On Topic: Mercedes pR0n

2014-04-20 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ooh oooh, Wilton won't like the big hole in the roof. Hendrik who has a proper MB wagon On 21/04/14 02:14, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/19/no-reserve-1964-mercedes-benz-fintail-wagon/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

2014-04-20 Thread Meade Dillon
...chuckles... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 9:46 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I'm back

2014-04-20 Thread WILTON
124 is good, but 126 is best. Drives like flying on a cool clear day; rock steady; only slight pressure left or right on steering wheel to put it 'zackly where ya want it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] ML350BT? and 91 350 SDL status

2014-04-20 Thread WILTON
Le'me know if deal falls through. Wilton - Original Message - From: Angelo Giaimo michaelangel...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] ML350BT? and 91 350 SDL status Wife really likes a 2011 ML350BT at a local dealer. CPO, low

[MBZ] sls troubles black

2014-04-20 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
thanks, I thought about the pressure keeping potential oil out i haven't felt the oil, but i probably have not had to add any for a year or more it's right in the middle of the reservoir or maybe 60% full the sls fluid is lighter wt than motor oil but i wonder if i could feel the

Re: [MBZ] bouncy sls troubles

2014-04-20 Thread Fmiser
Jim wrote: Who was it that had black suspension oil? Isn't that due to the rubber in the spheres decomposing? I did. But on mine it was the shaft seal on the pump. I suspect it was run without fluid for too long and really gouged the shaft. I took the pump from another car and