Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one
Allan wrote: Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the caps lock and avoid punctuation. I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. That was an awful concept - who would have known that the computer keyboard is the same as the slectric qwerty keyboard. I guess that lame-brain woman-only typing class was not so bad after all - in hindsight. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I learned to type on qwerty keyboards - Royal, Underwood, etc. - at 14 in 1948. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one Allan wrote: Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the caps lock and avoid punctuation. I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. That was an awful concept - who would have known that the computer keyboard is the same as the slectric qwerty keyboard. I guess that lame-brain woman-only typing class was not so bad after all - in hindsight. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I took typing back in junior high school too. Having played guitar, I found typing a snap. High score in the class. hee hee. I ended each lesson thinking, what a was of time, when will I ever type anything in life?? A year later, I took an introduction to computers, where we had to fill out punch cardshundreds/thousands of them to make the computer do the simplest task. Funny how the keyboard is the one part of the computer that has stuck around over the years, more of less, unchanged. What will be the interface that replaces it ?? Stay tuned. Ed 300E On 26 June 2010 14:57, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I learned to type on qwerty keyboards - Royal, Underwood, etc. - at 14 in 1948. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one Allan wrote: Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the caps lock and avoid punctuation. I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. That was an awful concept - who would have known that the computer keyboard is the same as the slectric qwerty keyboard. I guess that lame-brain woman-only typing class was not so bad after all - in hindsight. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's the problem with knowledge -- you never really know where things are going. I took typing (I was going to college and planning on graduate school, figured it was a skill I would use). However, there is a ton of stuff in my head that is of very limited use now, such as how to set ignition points! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. My parents made me take a typing class in Junior High School, 1964. I was the only boy in the class. I have been glad many times that they made me do it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nobody wanted to take typing back when I went to school, it was a filler class, to round out your schedule. I remember everyone panicking, when we discovered the keys didn't have any letters on them. Hmmm, this might be harder than we though. lol 300E On 26 June 2010 15:43, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. My parents made me take a typing class in Junior High School, 1964. I was the only boy in the class. I have been glad many times that they made me do it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. Ten years later my Mom slapped me upside the head and told me to drop my one filler HS class and replace it with typing. You're going into computers, you're going to want to know how to type. Duh! When nobody was looking I'd open up the machines and see how they worked. I watched the repairman at his business, too. That's how I learned how to field-strip a Selectric II in under a minute! Made a right scary-looking mess out of an expensive machine... People always thought they were computerized somehow. They were barely even electric. You could hook a treadle to one and type, in a post-apocalyptic world! Nothing but a motor and a switch, the rest purely mechanical. Steam-powered, that would be fun! I feel an idea coming on... :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did you know that Selectric I's were used as computer terminals? That's why there used to be that strange, very low baud rate on UNIX and IBM serial connections -- it was set to allow a full carriage return on the Selectric terminal! Noisy bastards, but they do in fact live forever. Very very slick system, too. I even remember how to adjust them, I think, for proper letter placement on the page. When they get old, you sorta have to chose which letters won't align exactly right unless you want to replace parts, and that's not really an option any more. The models after the Selectric III in 1978 or so were all hybrid -- electronic with electromechanical actuation. They were all junk, too -- very high failure rate in 5 years (as in 75% and up). Put IBM out of the typewriter buisness, as all the other machines with daisy wheels worked better and longer and were cheaper. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:53:28 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. Ten years later my Mom slapped me upside the head and told me to drop my one filler HS class and replace it with typing. You're going into computers, you're going to want to know how to type. Duh! Good for her! People always thought they were computerized somehow. They were barely even electric. You could hook a treadle to one and type, in a post-apocalyptic world! Nothing but a motor and a switch, the rest purely mechanical. Steam-powered, that would be fun! When I was a freshman at Caltech (1967) we had remote mechanical terminals connected to a central computer in the computer center. Instead of ASR-33 teletypes, they had changed to electrified Selectrics. They couldn't hold up to the beating of a myriad of freshmen printing out their programs constantly. It was fun, however, watching that ball bounce around at high speed. I feel an idea coming on... :-) GO FOR IT!!! :-) :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Steam powered selectric. I like it! (Laughing) I too took a typing class. (70 or 71 ) It was a filler class as I had all the credits to graduate, but back then they didn't let anyone gradgitate early. I was a pretty good hunt and peck typist before that class. After the class, I was not good at either. I think it was my senior year. Kurt Weiler and I sat in a corner and didn't take it too seriously. The one thing I never expected to survive into the computer age was the querty keyboard. At least it should be dvorak. I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968. Ten years later my Mom slapped me upside the head and told me to drop my one filler HS class and replace it with typing. You're going into computers, you're going to want to know how to type. Duh! When nobody was looking I'd open up the machines and see how they worked. I watched the repairman at his business, too. That's how I learned how to field-strip a Selectric II in under a minute! Made a right scary-looking mess out of an expensive machine... People always thought they were computerized somehow. They were barely even electric. You could hook a treadle to one and type, in a post-apocalyptic world! Nothing but a motor and a switch, the rest purely mechanical. Steam-powered, that would be fun! I feel an idea coming on... :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.comwrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1804260357.html Looks like a parts replacer has gotten ahold of this - wonder what the real problem is?? That it was sitting in 8 foot deep water for 13 days, and thus has water in every seal that is not properly water tight? EdB -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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CAR DIED AND WANT START SEVERAL MAJOR COMPONENTS REPLACED COMPUTER CRANK SENSOR OTHER HITS BUT WONT START GOOD COMPRESSION AND FUEL PUMP NICE CAR 700.00 OR TRADE 931 284 9382 OR 615 597 8709 Where doers CL get these people? Is there a subhuman species with half a brain that doesn't understand the purpose of punctuation? Or the fact that incorrect vowels usage can distort the meaning of a sentence? Regardless, IMO the car is worth $700, even if only for the interior and exterior body parts (bumpers, lensesm etc.). On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1804260357.html Looks like a parts replacer has gotten ahold of this - wonder what the real problem is?? That it was sitting in 8 foot deep water for 13 days, and thus has water in every seal that is not properly water tight? EdB -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:02 -0400, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Where doers CL get these people? Is there a subhuman species with half a brain that doesn't understand the purpose of punctuation? Or the fact that incorrect vowels usage can distort the meaning of a sentence? These are people who did not grow up with computers and have not had much experience using them. Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the caps lock and avoid punctuation. They use short words and clipped grammar to minimize the amount of typing they need to do. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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By contrast, there are others whose writing ability has blossomed with the advent of computers and the internet. Some in that category are Okiebenzers. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:02 -0400, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Where doers CL get these people? Is there a subhuman species with half a brain that doesn't understand the purpose of punctuation? Or the fact that incorrect vowels usage can distort the meaning of a sentence? These are people who did not grow up with computers and have not had much experience using them. Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the caps lock and avoid punctuation. They use short words and clipped grammar to minimize the amount of typing they need to do. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1804260357.html Looks like a parts replacer has gotten ahold of this - wonder what the real problem is?? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe just run out of fuel if the gauge is stuck. Hendrik John Freer wrote: But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thought it said it wouldn't go much over 30? --R John Freer wrote: But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/59779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/9a5df487/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea - but since that incident it hasn't started. I'm going to try to get details like last time filters were changed - aditives, any of that stuff to give a hint about the kind of maint it has head. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Thought it said it wouldn't go much over 30? --R John Freer wrote: But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/59779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/9a5df487/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/0bcab3c9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think someone had a problem at one time with the fuel tank vent getting clogged so that a vacuum formed, fuel supply was severely compromised. Could be goobered up fuel lines, pickup, filters, etc. too. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: Yea - but since that incident it hasn't started. I'm going to try to get details like last time filters were changed - aditives, any of that stuff to give a hint about the kind of maint it has head. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Thought it said it wouldn't go much over 30? --R John Freer wrote: But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/59779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/9a5df487/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/0bcab3c9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/61cb57c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes but the ALDA has no effect on starting, idle or very low throttle driving. So the first part could make sense, that is the lack of power, but the no-start isn't an ALDA issue. Mac on 4/25/09 9:06, Rich Thomas at richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Thought it said it wouldn't go much over 30? --R John Freer wrote: But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/5 9779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090425/9a5d f487/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. Ya don't see streets like that in the 'hood very much these days. I like those brick streets. Why? - dunno, just nostalgic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/59779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html Could be as simple as a clogged fuel filter or tank strainer. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats wrong with this one
on 4/24/09 21:28, Allan Streib at str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html Could be as simple as a clogged fuel filter or tank strainer. Peter, ask him if he had recently filled it up, and if so was it his usual station or somewhere new. Also did he dump an additive or cleaner into the fuel recently? If you overuse one of the powerful ones it can push a load of crud up the pipe all at once, and the filters clog. Also when/if the fuel filters have been changed? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats wrong with this one
The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/59779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats wrong with this one
But even if that hose is plugged, the car would start and this one doesn't. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The hose going from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clogged up, undo it at the intake, ream out the intake hole, you're good to go. Or replace the hose for like $13 or something. Or check all the vac hoses, one might be buggered. --R Peter Hertzing wrote: On St. Louis Craigslist. Thinking about looking at this weekend. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1135471504.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090424/59779fc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Whats up with this SL?
http://jackson.craigslist.org/car/550164838.html Ticking = new camshaft? Wouldn't that be hydraulic lifters? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats up with this SL?
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:56 AM, John Robbins wrote: http://jackson.craigslist.org/car/550164838.html Ticking = new camshaft? Wouldn't that be hydraulic lifters? It could be many things. Lifters would be the cheapest, but these motors have a propensity to eat camshafts if they are run low on oil. Needs to be inspected to know for sure. Looks like a glorified jalopy, I'd run from this one. Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats up with this SL?
Probably both the cam and the lifters. The 1978 has the larger cam oil delivery tube that was supposed to cure that problem - so it's probably been run low on oil like Mathieu said. Buyer beware. Other than all the rubber seals and tubes in the intake system drying out and leaking, these are bullet proof engines, so it might not be too bad, but there are lots of them out there still On Jan 30, 2008 11:13 AM, Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:56 AM, John Robbins wrote: http://jackson.craigslist.org/car/550164838.html Ticking = new camshaft? Wouldn't that be hydraulic lifters? It could be many things. Lifters would be the cheapest, but these motors have a propensity to eat camshafts if they are run low on oil. Needs to be inspected to know for sure. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats with this stuff????
Hydrogen derived from water for diesel and/or gasoline? This is the link : http://www.fuel-rebel.com/peek.htm Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats with this stuff????
Someone who thinks he can sell you a free lunch. On Dec 4, 2007 5:57 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hydrogen derived from water for diesel and/or gasoline? This is the link : http://www.fuel-rebel.com/peek.htm Dave H... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats with this stuff????
Thanks it sure sounded funky to me... Dave H... -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats with this stuff Someone who thinks he can sell you a free lunch. On Dec 4, 2007 5:57 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hydrogen derived from water for diesel and/or gasoline? This is the link : http://www.fuel-rebel.com/peek.htm Dave H... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
Hey Rory, I just got around to opening this post. I'm replying because when I first joined this list, I was looking for a nice old diesel, much like you are. I was open to 300Ds, 190Ds, and 240Ds. I wound up with a 240D, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did, as I really appreciate the simplicity and reliability of manual windows and manual transmission. And it does get a bit better mileage than the 300 would. Yes, if we'd found a 190D that was a good deal we'd have gotten it - they have their own advantages. As for price: Unless you're a good haggler, as many on the list are, you may find that the price point lies somewhere between the two extremes (what many on the list believe they're worth, and what some dilusional sellers try to get for them). I found that lots of people charge way too much, probably thinking that the Mercedes name will bring that much. Heck, before I started researching, I thought that any Mercedes, new, old, or inbetween, would be exotically priced. Hope you find your diesel. BTW, we paid $1800 for an 83 240D California rust-free car with 120k mi. Unfortunately, it turned out that the engine was bad, and we pad the price of the car for a replacement and install. Brian 83 240D On 9/10/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
Oh yeah, I should mention that the seller of the 240 we bought was asking, and I quote, at least $3000 or more. I had to slowly over the course of weeks convince him that that's not really what they go for. We had weeks because he wasn't actively trying to sell it - he'd pulled it off the market because I think he didn't have approval from his Mom to sell it. It was his father's car before he died. Brian On 9/15/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Rory, I just got around to opening this post. I'm replying because when I first joined this list, I was looking for a nice old diesel, much like you are. I was open to 300Ds, 190Ds, and 240Ds. I wound up with a 240D, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did, as I really appreciate the simplicity and reliability of manual windows and manual transmission. And it does get a bit better mileage than the 300 would. Yes, if we'd found a 190D that was a good deal we'd have gotten it - they have their own advantages. As for price: Unless you're a good haggler, as many on the list are, you may find that the price point lies somewhere between the two extremes (what many on the list believe they're worth, and what some dilusional sellers try to get for them). I found that lots of people charge way too much, probably thinking that the Mercedes name will bring that much. Heck, before I started researching, I thought that any Mercedes, new, old, or inbetween, would be exotically priced. Hope you find your diesel. BTW, we paid $1800 for an 83 240D California rust-free car with 120k mi. Unfortunately, it turned out that the engine was bad, and we pad the price of the car for a replacement and install. Brian 83 240D On 9/10/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
A 240 will get about the same as a 300 turbo. The 190D will get WAY better. Rory wrote: Wow that low! Should I hold out for a 190D then? Looking to get the best MPG and I know I can get 300's all day long but but not the MPG's so thats why I was looking at the 240D I was lokking at this one but now some loon just jumped the price up forget it http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc Rory On 9/11/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 1k but these days who knows. Rory wrote: I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
you will have to get a 190D for that. I happen to have a couple, have not decided if I will keep them or sell them since I have the 2.5 turbo. Rory wrote: Only 26mpg's boy I was hoping to get in the mid 30's hence the 190's On 9/11/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you'll see all that much more MPG from a 240D over a 300D. I could consistantly get 28mpg out of my '83 240D 4spd manual. I'd think a 300D should be able to do 26mpg pretty handily. My '85 190D 2.2l 5spd regularly stays around 38mpg with a high of 43mpg. My new 110 mile a day commute (up from 90 miles) seems to have raised the mpg slightly but it'll be a few weeks before I know for sure. -Curt Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:52:48 -0700 From: Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wow that low! Should I hold out for a 190D then? Looking to get the best MPG and I know I can get 300's all day long but but not the MPG's so thats why I was looking at the 240D I was lokking at this one but now some loon just jumped the price up forget it http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc Rory - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
Wow the price jumped real fast on this, do you think it jacked to get more money? http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
wow thats crazy money Rory wrote: Wow the price jumped real fast on this, do you think it jacked to get more money? http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car.
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
it's worth what you'd pay - in my case, it's worth $500 b/c I would hate an automatic 240D. If you're willing to tolerate THAT degree of slowness, it's probably worth $1500. On 9/10/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
About 1k but these days who knows. Rory wrote: I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
Wow that low! Should I hold out for a 190D then? Looking to get the best MPG and I know I can get 300's all day long but but not the MPG's so thats why I was looking at the 240D I was lokking at this one but now some loon just jumped the price up forget it http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc Rory On 9/11/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 1k but these days who knows. Rory wrote: I'm looking at a 81 240D Auto with 109k miles 2nd owner and everything works except AC but has a new re-man compressor ready to install no rust Calif car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
Wow that low! Should I hold out for a 190D then? Mine was $350. Some assembly required. :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
I don't think you'll see all that much more MPG from a 240D over a 300D. I could consistantly get 28mpg out of my '83 240D 4spd manual. I'd think a 300D should be able to do 26mpg pretty handily. My '85 190D 2.2l 5spd regularly stays around 38mpg with a high of 43mpg. My new 110 mile a day commute (up from 90 miles) seems to have raised the mpg slightly but it'll be a few weeks before I know for sure. -Curt Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:52:48 -0700 From: Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wow that low! Should I hold out for a 190D then? Looking to get the best MPG and I know I can get 300's all day long but but not the MPG's so thats why I was looking at the 240D I was lokking at this one but now some loon just jumped the price up forget it http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc Rory - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 11 16:33:13 2006 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.237]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GMoif-B9-Og for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:33:13 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t11so1866855wxc for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.125.11 with SMTP id x11mr6505549wxc; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.15.8 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:33:07 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] 83' 300D exhaust X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:33:14 - Ok so let me get this straight... That entire 100lb 20ft long exhaust system is held up by one point at the rear end and the turbo at the other? Ok, I may be exaggerating (a LITTLE). But I didn't think the exhaust was that bad on my 83' 300D. But it got pretty loud one night and then I thought I heard some scraping and sure enough the flange on the front end of the middle piece of exhaust (I count 3 separate exhaust pieces) was no longer attached to the middle piece. So I took it and the rear section it was attached to off and it did have several holes in it and was considerably thinner on the bottom than the top. I was hoping I could just leave it off, but it was a tad more noisy than I really wanted. So then I thought well, I'll just try the middle section attached. but there's no hangers at all on the middle section and I don't see any obvious good locations for trying to tie up the rear end of the middle section. So the guy I bought the car from included an entire (well ok just the middle and rear sections) exhaust. I thought it was Mercedes cause it looks almost identical, but it says Tesi made in Italy. So anyway, I got the new middle and rear sections bolted together and hooked up with it's 4 hangars on the far back muffler. Did that maybe a couple weeks ago. Well, I took it on it's longest trip so far up near Canada around 260 miles each way. Well, around 70 or so miles I thought I could hear a little more of the turbo. Which I really like, but was a bit worried about why I was hearing it. So, about 180 miles in and it was quite apparent that there was a lot more exhaust noise. But I didn't hear the exhaust dragging, so decided to wait until around 220 miles or so when I needed to refill the veggie tank. Sure enough it seems there is a flexible section that comes out of the turbo, and it was no longer connected to the flexible section (there is only supposed to be one section of flex, not two) attached to the rest of the exhaust. Luckily though apparently that is long enough to lay on the tranny mount and so it was not dragging and the exhaust seems to be aimed down enough to not be causing much trouble where it is. I am however wondering a bit as to whether the cops will think this level of noise excessive. It's not TOO bad at normal revs
Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth?
Only 26mpg's boy I was hoping to get in the mid 30's hence the 190's On 9/11/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you'll see all that much more MPG from a 240D over a 300D. I could consistantly get 28mpg out of my '83 240D 4spd manual. I'd think a 300D should be able to do 26mpg pretty handily. My '85 190D 2.2l 5spd regularly stays around 38mpg with a high of 43mpg. My new 110 mile a day commute (up from 90 miles) seems to have raised the mpg slightly but it'll be a few weeks before I know for sure. -Curt Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:52:48 -0700 From: Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats a 81 240D worth? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wow that low! Should I hold out for a 190D then? Looking to get the best MPG and I know I can get 300's all day long but but not the MPG's so thats why I was looking at the 240D I was lokking at this one but now some loon just jumped the price up forget it http://tinyurl.com/ed7pc Rory - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] whats this?
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Re: [MBZ] whats this?
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Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
DaveI think I heard that term someplace from way back whenever and really never knew what it meant either but when I took the rod cap and the bearing was paper thin and even squished up the side 1/4 , it Looked like a spun bearing that had stopped spinning to me :-) That crank had really hammered it, of course now I'm real sorry I tried to drive it home :'( Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:46 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D What does it mean to Spin a Bearing - or Spun a Bearing? Spin, Span, Spun - whatever... Thanks -Dave Walton
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
sounds like the overhaul consisted of a valve job. I had a job like that foisted on me by the stealership in Memphis back in 72. That is how I learned to be a diesel mechanic. At 11:26 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote: I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched, which I think can be repaired. The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the same weight in my spare parts bin. There is no ridge at the top of the cyl walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons. So far the valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today. Steve ntent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 4 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't have one. There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold. The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless familiar with Benz practice. Easy way to check is to pull the cam and remove a couple valve springs. If the valve will preceptibly move sidways when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance. The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can only check by taking them out. Should be 0.001, very tight. You can check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing). Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine. Pistons may be shot, too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways and extrudes the ring lands. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
What does it mean to Spin a Bearing - or Spun a Bearing? Spin, Span, Spun - whatever... Thanks -Dave Walton On 10/4/05, Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched, which I think can be repaired. The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the same weight in my spare parts bin. There is no ridge at the top of the cyl walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons. So far the valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today. Steve ntent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 4 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't have one. There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold. The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless familiar with Benz practice. Easy way to check is to pull the cam and remove a couple valve springs. If the valve will preceptibly move sidways when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance. The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can only check by taking them out. Should be 0.001, very tight. You can check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing). Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine. Pistons may be shot, too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways and extrudes the ring lands. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
I have no idea who did the rebuild but it was down in San Diego :'( I'm kind of a beginner at this but I have seen the inside of a couple 616s and I dont quite get the no ridge and no cross hatchs, even I know that aint right :-) Allot of the parts in the eng look new, oil pump, chain tensioner shoe, (guides). It doesn't look like its been too many miles since this overhaul Steve -- Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know why I look this way. I've travelled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved. From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:22:15 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 8 sounds like the overhaul consisted of a valve job. I had a job like that foisted on me by the stealership in Memphis back in 72. That is how I learned to be a diesel mechanic. At 11:26 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote: I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched, which I think can be repaired. The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the same weight in my spare parts bin. There is no ridge at the top of the cyl walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons. So far the valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today.
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
The crankshaft bearing inserts are secured in the rod by indents on the cap and rod. If the bearing gets worn or the friction between the crankshaft and bearing gets high, the insert may come loose from these indents and spin inside the rod (not good). Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:46 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D What does it mean to Spin a Bearing - or Spun a Bearing? Spin, Span, Spun - whatever... Thanks -Dave Walton On 10/4/05, Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched, which I think can be repaired. The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the same weight in my spare parts bin. There is no ridge at the top of the cyl walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons. So far the valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today. Steve ntent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 4 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't have one. There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold. The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless familiar with Benz practice. Easy way to check is to pull the cam and remove a couple valve springs. If the valve will preceptibly move sidways when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance. The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can only check by taking them out. Should be 0.001, very tight. You can check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing). Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine. Pistons may be shot, too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways and extrudes the ring lands. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Tom Peter...thanks for the help Where does the other end of the pipe go? Dont remember, I pulled the engine last spring, put it on the stand and figured it was something to do with being a Ca car and I would do away with it anyway. I was just curious as to what it was. and how to plug the hole in the pan=-O I pulled the head today (rainy day...yaaa) and will check those valve stems tomorrow. I sure hope your right about the crank being OK Peter ;-) So far pulling the engine apart, there are no signs of a shoddy engine assembly job, all the washers in place etc..., nothing amiss as far as I can tell so far, but tomorrow I 'll get to the bottom end. All the gaskets, including head gasket look new. Thanks again, I'll report on the bottom end tomorow. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:14:28 -0500 To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: ![EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 3 The vacuum gizmo is part of the vacuum circuit for the transmission. It's used to modify the vacuum signal based on throttle position. If it were 300 engine than I'd suspect that the pipe is the turbo oil drain, but this is a 240 engine. Where does the other end of the pipe go? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 4 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't have one. There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold. The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless familiar with Benz practice. Easy way to check is to pull the cam and remove a couple valve springs. If the valve will preceptibly move sidways when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance. The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can only check by taking them out. Should be 0.001, very tight. You can check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing). Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine. Pistons may be shot, too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways and extrudes the ring lands. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Did you check and see if vacuum pump was pumping oil into intake? Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Tom Peter...thanks for the help Where does the other end of the pipe go? Dont remember, I pulled the engine last spring, put it on the stand and figured it was something to do with being a Ca car and I would do away with it anyway. I was just curious as to what it was. and how to plug the hole in the pan=-O I pulled the head today (rainy day...yaaa) and will check those valve stems tomorrow. I sure hope your right about the crank being OK Peter ;-) So far pulling the engine apart, there are no signs of a shoddy engine assembly job, all the washers in place etc..., nothing amiss as far as I can tell so far, but tomorrow I 'll get to the bottom end. All the gaskets, including head gasket look new. Thanks again, I'll report on the bottom end tomorow. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:14:28 -0500 To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: !!AAAYAJUWRFH5lu9LntQJJacN0BDCgAAAEEobVs0SsllNv3fz+Hvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 3 The vacuum gizmo is part of the vacuum circuit for the transmission. It's used to modify the vacuum signal based on throttle position. If it were 300 engine than I'd suspect that the pipe is the turbo oil drain, but this is a 240 engine. Where does the other end of the pipe go? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 4 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't have one. There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold. The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless familiar with Benz practice. Easy way to check is to pull the cam and remove a couple valve springs. If the valve will preceptibly move sidways when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance. The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can only check by taking them out. Should be 0.001, very tight. You can check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing). Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine. Pistons may be shot, too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways and extrudes the ring lands. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Loren...Hah...So thats it.. i've had several 240s and never seen these things. Additionally there is what looks like a double vacuum fitting, on the T-stat housing close to where it bolts to the block, another 83 thing, I spoz :-) Thanks for the help Regards Steve From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:09:03 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 13 Not so. At 10:21 AM 10/2/2005, you wrote: The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Our 81 240D does not have one. The only 240D i have seen WITH one is the 83. I am not sure if 82 it mit or without. None of the 81 and earlier 4cyl diesels have this extra drain. I took off the vacuum gizmo and just put a cork in the top of the second drain pipe when i put an 83 engine in the 81.
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Trampas When I pulled the engine, I took the vac pump off to use on another car and it was fine. Its not raining today and although I should be out putting up fire wood, I'm gona pull the pan and find out whats going on. When I bought the car the oil usage was the minor problem. I started to drive it home as the knock wasn't that bad but it got progressively worse so after a few miles I parked it and picked it up with the dolly next day. The rest of the car was in great shape, what a crime. I put another engine in it sold it to a buddy that has been looking for a nice 240. Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:16:56 -0400 To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 1 Did you check and see if vacuum pump was pumping oil into intake? Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Tom Peter...thanks for the help Where does the other end of the pipe go? Dont remember, I pulled the engine last spring, put it on the stand and figured it was something to do with being a Ca car and I would do away with it anyway. I was just curious as to what it was. and how to plug the hole in the pan=-O I pulled the head today (rainy day...yaaa) and will check those valve stems tomorrow. I sure hope your right about the crank being OK Peter ;-) So far pulling the engine apart, there are no signs of a shoddy engine assembly job, all the washers in place etc..., nothing amiss as far as I can tell so far, but tomorrow I 'll get to the bottom end. All the gaskets, including head gasket look new. Thanks again, I'll report on the bottom end tomorow. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
OM617 would be a great transplant Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Trampas When I pulled the engine, I took the vac pump off to use on another car and it was fine. Its not raining today and although I should be out putting up fire wood, I'm gona pull the pan and find out whats going on. When I bought the car the oil usage was the minor problem. I started to drive it home as the knock wasn't that bad but it got progressively worse so after a few miles I parked it and picked it up with the dolly next day. The rest of the car was in great shape, what a crime. I put another engine in it sold it to a buddy that has been looking for a nice 240. Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:16:56 -0400 To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 1 Did you check and see if vacuum pump was pumping oil into intake? Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Tom Peter...thanks for the help Where does the other end of the pipe go? Dont remember, I pulled the engine last spring, put it on the stand and figured it was something to do with being a Ca car and I would do away with it anyway. I was just curious as to what it was. and how to plug the hole in the pan=-O I pulled the head today (rainy day...yaaa) and will check those valve stems tomorrow. I sure hope your right about the crank being OK Peter ;-) So far pulling the engine apart, there are no signs of a shoddy engine assembly job, all the washers in place etc..., nothing amiss as far as I can tell so far, but tomorrow I 'll get to the bottom end. All the gaskets, including head gasket look new. Thanks again, I'll report on the bottom end tomorow. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
I have an engine I took out of a manual 83 240D that I plan to rebuild this fall. Its a Ca car if that makes any diff. Sorry I dont have a pic of this, but there is a vacuum gizmo on top of the IP that is hooked into the throttle linkage..Can anyone tell me what this is? Also there is a pipe going into the top of the oil pan (passenger side of eng) Whats this all about?? This engine was supposedly rebuild down in So Ca but it used a qt of lub oil every 200 miles, and the gal (PO) got tired of adding oil..So I bought it when it started knocking, pulled the eng and now I will get around to investigating. I'm hopping the crank is not toast..sigh, ;-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
The vacuum gizmo is part of the vacuum circuit for the transmission. It's used to modify the vacuum signal based on throttle position. If it were 300 engine than I'd suspect that the pipe is the turbo oil drain, but this is a 240 engine. Where does the other end of the pipe go? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D I have an engine I took out of a manual 83 240D that I plan to rebuild this fall. Its a Ca car if that makes any diff. Sorry I dont have a pic of this, but there is a vacuum gizmo on top of the IP that is hooked into the throttle linkage..Can anyone tell me what this is? Also there is a pipe going into the top of the oil pan (passenger side of eng) Whats this all about?? This engine was supposedly rebuild down in So Ca but it used a qt of lub oil every 200 miles, and the gal (PO) got tired of adding oil..So I bought it when it started knocking, pulled the eng and now I will get around to investigating. I'm hopping the crank is not toast..sigh, ;-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
If I remember right that tube goes to an oil trap off from the cam cover. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D The vacuum gizmo is part of the vacuum circuit for the transmission. It's used to modify the vacuum signal based on throttle position. If it were 300 engine than I'd suspect that the pipe is the turbo oil drain, but this is a 240 engine. Where does the other end of the pipe go? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D I have an engine I took out of a manual 83 240D that I plan to rebuild this fall. Its a Ca car if that makes any diff. Sorry I dont have a pic of this, but there is a vacuum gizmo on top of the IP that is hooked into the throttle linkage..Can anyone tell me what this is? Also there is a pipe going into the top of the oil pan (passenger side of eng) Whats this all about?? This engine was supposedly rebuild down in So Ca but it used a qt of lub oil every 200 miles, and the gal (PO) got tired of adding oil..So I bought it when it started knocking, pulled the eng and now I will get around to investigating. I'm hopping the crank is not toast..sigh, ;-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Nice long wheel base Benz, doesn't seem to be neglected but how do they justify almost $2K to do a head gasket repair? I also noticed they have it listed as a 6 cyl, I do believe the 350 SDL was a 5 cyl Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Benz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
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6 cylnder
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6 cylinder rod bender - 603.970 engine On 9/15/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6 cylnder -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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the 350 was a 6 cyl. Harry M. wrote: Nice long wheel base Benz, doesn't seem to be neglected but how do they justify almost $2K to do a head gasket repair? I also noticed they have it listed as a 6 cyl, I do believe the 350 SDL was a 5 cyl Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Benz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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someone wrote: Nice long wheel base Benz, doesn't seem to be neglected but how do they justify almost $2K to do a head gasket repair? If memory serves, the $2k range is about right for what I have heard owners of the six-cylinder turbodiesels report as the average bill, taking into account the re/re and machine shop work on the head, and the various small 'gotchas' that normall crop up during those jobs. If you have had it done for substantially less, any tips would be welcome. Mac
[MBZ] whats y'alls take on this?
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I think you should add it to your stable. I need to sell you some more parts anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh believe me, I have plenty in the stable already that need parts. In fact, need to get something going on my 240D stick since fuel is so expensive. I think it needs a new throw out bearing. Squeels when you push the the clutch in. If you rev engine up a little it goes away. Probably should do clutch and everything while its apart. Rusty Cullens wrote: I think you should add it to your stable. I need to sell you some more parts anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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At approximately 88,000 miles, the timing chain broke What happens when a timing chain breaks in these engines? The camshaft stops rotating and pistons keep going up and down and smash into the valves, right? Looks like it could be a nice project car for someone. Quite a project, however -Dave Walton On 9/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Benz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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I know where a nice 249D stick is and it has a BRAND NEW clutch set up in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA Oh believe me, I have plenty in the stable already that need parts. In fact, need to get something going on my 240D stick since fuel is so expensive. I think it needs a new throw out bearing. Squeels when you push the the clutch in. If you rev engine up a little it goes away. Probably should do clutch and everything while its apart. Rusty Cullens wrote: I think you should add it to your stable. I need to sell you some more parts anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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That had to have been fixed Dave. The car has over 200,000 miles on it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:59 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? At approximately 88,000 miles, the timing chain broke What happens when a timing chain breaks in these engines? The camshaft stops rotating and pistons keep going up and down and smash into the valves, right? Looks like it could be a nice project car for someone. Quite a project, however -Dave Walton On 9/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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240D I mean. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:05 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? I know where a nice 249D stick is and it has a BRAND NEW clutch set up in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA Oh believe me, I have plenty in the stable already that need parts. In fact, need to get something going on my 240D stick since fuel is so expensive. I think it needs a new throw out bearing. Squeels when you push the the clutch in. If you rev engine up a little it goes away. Probably should do clutch and everything while its apart. Rusty Cullens wrote: I think you should add it to your stable. I need to sell you some more parts anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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yea, I have to get down there ASAP. Got that other deal cooking I told you about to coordinate with that deal. Rusty Cullens wrote: I know where a nice 249D stick is and it has a BRAND NEW clutch set up in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA Oh believe me, I have plenty in the stable already that need parts. In fact, need to get something going on my 240D stick since fuel is so expensive. I think it needs a new throw out bearing. Squeels when you push the the clutch in. If you rev engine up a little it goes away. Probably should do clutch and everything while its apart. Rusty Cullens wrote: I think you should add it to your stable. I need to sell you some more parts anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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It's a P.O.S. On 9/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, I have to get down there ASAP. Got that other deal cooking I told you about to coordinate with that deal. Rusty Cullens wrote: I know where a nice 249D stick is and it has a BRAND NEW clutch set up in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA Oh believe me, I have plenty in the stable already that need parts. In fact, need to get something going on my 240D stick since fuel is so expensive. I think it needs a new throw out bearing. Squeels when you push the the clutch in. If you rev engine up a little it goes away. Probably should do clutch and everything while its apart. Rusty Cullens wrote: I think you should add it to your stable. I need to sell you some more parts anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Be nz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
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Are you going to do the head job on it? May be worth offering $600. High miles and lots of minor issues. Makes me think of the POS SDL. Wonder if when the timing chain broke the rods got dealt with On Thursday, September 15, 2005, at 09:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes- Benz-350-SDL-Turbo- Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Needs an engine and it's probably been in a major flood. Another car for your backyard... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Benz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Yes, if they fixed it right My S350 survived with a bent rod until 180,000 miles. Would have kept going if the head gasket had not blown. I would not assume the rods are straight or the cylinders are round. Plan on a new engine - plus tons of little shit to keep you busy. Actually it sounds kinda fun! -Dave Walton On 9/15/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That had to have been fixed Dave. The car has over 200,000 miles on it. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *dave walton *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:59 PM *To:* Mercedes mailing list *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] whats y'alls take on this? At approximately 88,000 miles, the timing chain broke What happens when a timing chain breaks in these engines? The camshaft stops rotating and pistons keep going up and down and smash into the valves, right? Looks like it could be a nice project car for someone. Quite a project, however -Dave Walton On 9/15/05, *Kaleb C. Striplin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1991-Mercedes-Benz-350-SDL-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4575590524QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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You are sick!!! lol Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Actually it sounds kinda fun! -Dave Walton
