Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[MG via Mercedes]

There is a slight downslope toward the pump so the ball should be 
safe. At least it wasn't any problem for me.


Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:



MG via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 5:36 PM
If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to see 
if it helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt loose from 
the top of the banjo bolt on the engine side of the pump. Hold the 
banjo bolt with a 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to loosen the plug, you 
don't have to take the whole banjo bolt out, the spring is a very weak 
spring so that isn't any problem even after it's stretched. Just don't 
drop the little copper sealing ring. (OR THE BALL!)


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ll give it a shot this weekend when I have a few minutes.

Thanks!

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:36 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to see if it 
> helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt loose from the top of 
> the banjo bolt on the engine side of the pump. Hold the banjo bolt with a 
> 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to loosen the plug, you don't have to take the 
> whole banjo bolt out, the spring is a very weak spring so that isn't any 
> problem even after it's stretched. Just don't drop the little copper sealing 
> ring.


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

MG via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 5:36 PM
If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to see 
if it helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt loose from 
the top of the banjo bolt on the engine side of the pump. Hold the 
banjo bolt with a 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to loosen the plug, you 
don't have to take the whole banjo bolt out, the spring is a very weak 
spring so that isn't any problem even after it's stretched. Just don't 
drop the little copper sealing ring. (OR THE BALL!)


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[MG via Mercedes]

If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to 
see if it helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt 
loose from the top of the banjo bolt on the engine side of the 
pump. Hold the banjo bolt with a 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to 
loosen the plug, you don't have to take the whole banjo bolt out, 
the spring is a very weak spring so that isn't any problem even 
after it's stretched. Just don't drop the little copper sealing 
ring.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks for researching this, Manfred!

The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order one 
for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle big 
time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.

Dan


On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that the 
guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says that if 
the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar then adjust 
it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back together. Which 
by the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes problems. I will 
always try the MB manual way first because it hasn't caused me any problems 
yet. It may cause him problems in his pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.

One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the line 
and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. If you 
don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that next. BTW 
stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a bit.

Manfred

clay via Mercedes wrote:

I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air.
Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We have 
been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep research.
ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes Source 
rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online (being big on 
research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It comes all as a 
unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no idea what it does, 
but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
clay

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I did.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you adjust the new rack bolt per the procedure? If you did and it still 
> rocks you have other problems.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

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Did you adjust the new rack bolt per the procedure? If you did and it still 
rocks you have other problems.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes. It idles and runs great, but the engine sways or shakes at idle. New 
> motor mounts, too.
> 
> I don't drive it enough to tell for sure, but it may be temperature dependent.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Idle speed adjusted correctly?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. Had it since I first got it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
> 
> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
> one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at 
> idle big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion 
>> that the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual 
>> it says that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure 
>> above .8 bar then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring 
>> and put it back together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to 
>> do because it causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first 
>> because it hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems 
>> in his pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
>> 
>> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
>> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 
>> bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to 
>> do that next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out 
>> the idle a bit.
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
>>> the air.
>>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
>>> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
>>> research.
>>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked 
>>> online (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild 
>>> item.  It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617). 
>>>  I have no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  
>>> Just because.
>>> clay
 On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes. It idles and runs great, but the engine sways or shakes at idle. New motor 
mounts, too.

I don't drive it enough to tell for sure, but it may be temperature dependent.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Idle speed adjusted correctly?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. Had it since I first got it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
 
 The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
 one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle 
 big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
 
 Dan
 
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
> the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
> that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
> then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
> together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it 
> causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
> hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his 
> pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
> 
> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 
> bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to 
> do that next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out 
> the idle a bit.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
>> the air.
>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
>> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
>> research.
>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  
>> It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have 
>> no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just 
>> because.
>> clay
>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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Idle speed adjusted correctly?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Had it since I first got it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
>>> 
>>> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
>>> one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle 
>>> big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
 
 I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
 the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
 that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
 then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
 together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it 
 causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
 hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his 
 pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
 
 One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
 line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 
 bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to 
 do that next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the 
 idle a bit.
 
 Manfred
 
 clay via Mercedes wrote:
> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
> the air.
> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
> research.
> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  
> It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have 
> no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
> clay
>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

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Yes. Had it since I first got it.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
>> 
>> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
>> one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle 
>> big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
>>> the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
>>> that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
>>> then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
>>> together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it 
>>> causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
>>> hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his 
>>> pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
>>> 
>>> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
>>> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. 
>>> If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that 
>>> next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a 
>>> bit.
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
 I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
 air.
 Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
 have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
 research.
 ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
 Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
 (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It 
 comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no 
 idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
 clay
> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
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Yes, I might try that first to see if there's any effect.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:32:03 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
>> 
>> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may
>> order one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it
>> shakes at idle big time, but everything is in order from what I can
>> tell.
> 
> Or stretch the spring, as Manfred mentioned ...
> 
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Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
> 
> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order one 
> for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle big 
> time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
>> the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
>> that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
>> then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
>> together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes 
>> problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it hasn't caused 
>> me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his pocketbook but it 
>> feels just fine in mine.
>> 
>> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
>> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. 
>> If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that 
>> next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a 
>> bit.
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
>>> air.
>>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
>>> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
>>> research.
>>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
>>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It 
>>> comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no 
>>> idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
>>> clay
 On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
 
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:32:03 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
> 
> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may
> order one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it
> shakes at idle big time, but everything is in order from what I can
> tell.

Or stretch the spring, as Manfred mentioned ...


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for researching this, Manfred!

The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order one 
for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle big 
time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.

Dan

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that the 
> guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says that if 
> the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar then adjust 
> it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back together. Which 
> by the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes problems. I will 
> always try the MB manual way first because it hasn't caused me any problems 
> yet. It may cause him problems in his pocketbook but it feels just fine in 
> mine.
> 
> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the line 
> and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. If you 
> don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that next. 
> BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a bit.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
>> air.
>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We have 
>> been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep research.
>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It 
>> comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no 
>> idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
>> clay
>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[MG via Mercedes]

I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the 
conclusion that the guy is just trying to make some money. If you 
read the manual it says that if the spring in there is too weak 
to keep the pressure above .8 bar then adjust it to 27mm. In 
other words stretch the spring and put it back together. Which by 
the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes 
problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in 
his pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.


One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge 
on the line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at 
least 1-1.3 bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift 
pump. I will have to do that next. BTW stretching the spring on 
mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a bit.


Manfred

clay via Mercedes wrote:

I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air.

Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We have 
been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep research.

ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes Source 
rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online (being big on 
research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It comes all as a 
unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no idea what it does, 
but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.

clay



On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Which hollow bolt is it?  I was looking at the EPC for my 350SDL and didn’t see 
anything like it, just a bunch of hollow bolts. Maybe the OM603 doesn’t use one?

On my 300D I found a hollow bolt that it on the end of the return line where it 
enters the IP - that’s referred to in the EPC as a “valve”.  I;’m assuming 
that’s it.  A whopping $27.50 list.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:01 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had one go bad on a OM621.  I have known about them for forty-some years.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> March 19, 2017 at 9:32 PM
>> I just did yesterday. Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
>> air.
>> 
>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late. We have 
>> been pals since I got Gump. He has all manner of manuals and deep research.
>> 
>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>> Source rebuild kit. Much money and instructions. Then he looked online 
>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item. It 
>> comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617). I have no idea 
>> what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD. Just because.
>> 
>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I had one go bad on a OM621.  I have known about them for forty-some years.


clay via Mercedes 
March 19, 2017 at 9:32 PM
I just did yesterday. Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
the air.


Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late. We 
have been pals since I got Gump. He has all manner of manuals and deep 
research.


ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the 
Mercedes Source rebuild kit. Much money and instructions. Then he 
looked online (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a 
rebuild item. It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 
(OM617). I have no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on 
my SD. Just because.


clay


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[clay via Mercedes]

I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air.

Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We have 
been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep research.

ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes Source 
rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online (being big on 
research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It comes all as a 
unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no idea what it does, 
but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.

clay


> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

An old tired spring may allow a lower pressure on the feed passages, so this 
may be a necessary repair.  If your 0 to 60 time is within factory spec, you 
don't need this.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 18, 2017 1:41:44 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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>http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 13:41:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
>
> Anyone Ever Heard of This?

No.

But it makes sense that increasing the pressure inside the injection pump
will fill the pump element fuel chambers more quickly.

If your pump has a weak return valve spring, that indeed would cause
problems. Replacing it with a proper factory spring should solve those
problems. I recall Marshall mentioning several times that the factory
engineers knew more than someone in his own shop. I'm not sure who set
the value of the return spring and its pressure, whether that would be
Mercedes or Bosch.

The fellow is rather closed about what the pressure was before his mod
and what it is after. How much pressure can the internals of the pump
stand? How much pressure can the lift pump reliably supply?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes I bought one of those springs from him when he rebuilt injectors. I
think it just keeps the supply pressure to the delivery valves higher, or
something like that. I never put it in. Pretty much voodoo, but cheap
voodoo.

On Mar 18, 2017 10:42 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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