Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux, and browser control

2010-09-07 Thread Fmiser
 Tim C wrote:
 If you don't use flash you should get rid of it.  That's where
 all my recent spikes and hangs have come from.  Noscript at
 least has helped block anything I don't specifically approve
 but it takes a lot of patience to train.

I find it's quite easy to train.  Have it set to none, then as
if I encounter a site that requires it, two clicks and I'm done.

I also use FlashBlock that requires a click to run each flash
object.  So on those sites that have a dozen side flash things
in addition to the one I want to see I don't have to wait for
the dozen.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-06 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote:
 They even have it for Linux, though you have to look carefully at the
 page to see the link.

hmmm - all I saw was XP installer
I'll need to take another look-see.
If you come up with the link - put it up here - thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-06 Thread Craig
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:14:59 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:

 Craig wrote:
  They even have it for Linux, though you have to look carefully at the
  page to see the link.
 
 hmmm - all I saw was XP installer
 I'll need to take another look-see.
 If you come up with the link - put it up here - thanks.

It's on

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php

right below the Free Internet Explorer 8 ad and right above
Plugins/Extensions, Themes, and more:

Once you see the right link, it takes you to
http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18t=1638
where the links are obvious.

I downloaded it last night, but couldn't get it to run on CentOS 5.4. The
error message was:

./iron: error while loading shared libraries: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

I haven't had a chance and haven't felt like tracking down libgio.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas

Correct!  I am fairly unbalanced!

--R

On 9/4/10 10:19 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

--R wrote:
   

It is the Summer of Recovery!
 

You watch too much npr.
Or, you listen to too much fox.
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Funny, I thought it was CNN pushing that...

On Sep 4, 2010 10:19 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

--R wrote:
 It is the Summer of Recovery!
You watch too much npr.
Or, you listen to too much fox.

mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Mountain Man
Walt wrote:
 Funny, I thought it was CNN pushing that...

Oh, that's right.
He is injecting too much CNN.
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Personally, I've started looking to the BBC and Canadian news systems a bit
more, nice to see a perspective from outside the guilded cage of American
journalism, with it's money and party bound integrity... And that goes for
either party affiliation as well.

Walt

On Sep 5, 2010 1:45 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

Walt wrote:
 Funny, I thought it was CNN pushing that...
Oh, that's right.
He is injecting too much CNN.

mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Mountain Man
Walt wrote:
 Personally, I've started looking to the BBC and Canadian news systems a bit
 more, nice to see a perspective from outside the guilded cage of American
 journalism, with it's money and party bound integrity... And that goes for
 either party affiliation as well.

Yes, but even they have a huge tint of the guilded cage syndrome.
I have always liked the Economist for news - but they sing the party
line on many many issues.  They certainly cover stuff different from
what seems available here, however.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread LWB250
BBC news is on a lot of NPR stations these days.  I listen to it at 6:30 right 
after the finance program (Moneyline?)

Dan



--- On Sun, 9/5/10, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 1:51 PM
 Personally, I've started looking to
 the BBC and Canadian news systems a bit
 more, nice to see a perspective from outside the guilded
 cage of American
 journalism, with it's money and party bound integrity...
 And that goes for
 either party affiliation as well.
 
 Walt
 
 On Sep 5, 2010 1:45 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Walt wrote:
  Funny, I thought it was CNN pushing that...
 Oh, that's right.
 He is injecting too much CNN.
 
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread OK Don
Rather than Chrome, get Iron from SRWare - it's had the Google spyware
stripped out of the Chrome source code, then re-compiled.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

   So, I guess I will have my son install ArchLinux and
 get chrome to run as my browser.


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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Mountain Man
Dan wrote:
 BBC news is on a lot of NPR stations these days.  I listen to it at 6:30 
 right after the finance program (Moneyline?)


You're right - thanks for that reminder.
Marketplace, not Moneyline.
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote:
 Rather than Chrome, get Iron from SRWare - it's had the Google spyware
 stripped out of the Chrome source code, then re-compiled.

Sounds wonderful - thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1309041/It-true-The-BBCs-boss-says-biased.html

On 9/5/10 9:06 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Dan wrote:
   

BBC news is on a lot of NPR stations these days.  I listen to it at 6:30 right 
after the finance program (Moneyline?)

 

You're right - thanks for that reminder.
Marketplace, not Moneyline.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread LWB250
Ah, yes - Marketplace with Kai Rhysdahl.  On the tip of my tongue...

Dan



--- On Sun, 9/5/10, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 9:06 PM
 Dan wrote:
  BBC news is on a lot of NPR stations these days.  I
 listen to it at 6:30 right after the finance program
 (Moneyline?)
 
 
 You're right - thanks for that reminder.
 Marketplace, not Moneyline.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:20:07 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rather than Chrome, get Iron from SRWare - it's had the Google spyware
 stripped out of the Chrome source code, then re-compiled.

They even have it for Linux, though you have to look carefully at the
page to see the link.


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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-04 Thread Tim C
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 My son runs this.
 I guess it has the best java support in linux?

If you're looking for Javascript performance, you should switch to
Opera.  Not sure that's really your issue though it probably wouldn't
hurt.

 I know my fedora installation stalled at google today, as they had
 some type of animated applet display celebrating the buckyball
 anniversary.  The taskbar applet showing processor use shoots to 100%
 at google, which essentially shuts any other operations down.  What a

Try browsing with JS disabled (noscript plugin in FF), that's what I
do at work.  Alternatively, recompile Links to run without X, gave new
life to some of our old laptops.  I hate X on old machines. :)

If you don't use flash you should get rid of it.  That's where all my
recent spikes and hangs have come from.  Noscript at least has helped
block anything I don't specifically approve but it takes a lot of
patience to train.

 krock that is.  So, I guess I will have my son install ArchLinux and
 get chrome to run as my browser.

Seems like overkill, you probably aren't going to have a lot going on
in the background now so your performance should be similar with Arch
or * Linux in the same GUI.

 Does anyone else have experience with ArchLinux?

I've only started to hear of it recently, but it seems to have gotten
quite popular in the last 6 months (or at least that's when I started
hearing about it a lot more).

-Tim
RHEL5, OEL5, and Debian, waiting for RHEL6 release...

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-04 Thread Mountain Man
Tim wrote:
 Try browsing with JS disabled...

That did it - thanks.
I'm surprised my son didn't suggest that right off.
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-04 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Adblock+, noscript, and you should be good.

Although I prefer dillo for all but the most intensive browsing, it's fast,
if a bit spartan, and it doesn't eat memory like a pig. I think the newest
version supports ssl fully as well.

Walt

On Sep 4, 2010 9:55 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 My son runs this.
 I ...
If you're looking for Javascript performance, you should switch to
Opera.  Not sure that's really your issue though it probably wouldn't
hurt.


 I know my fedora installation stalled at google today, as they had
 some type of animated applet...
Try browsing with JS disabled (noscript plugin in FF), that's what I
do at work.  Alternatively, recompile Links to run without X, gave new
life to some of our old laptops.  I hate X on old machines. :)

If you don't use flash you should get rid of it.  That's where all my
recent spikes and hangs have come from.  Noscript at least has helped
block anything I don't specifically approve but it takes a lot of
patience to train.


 krock that is.  So, I guess I will have my son install ArchLinux and
 get chrome to run as my br...
Seems like overkill, you probably aren't going to have a lot going on
in the background now so your performance should be similar with Arch
or * Linux in the same GUI.


 Does anyone else have experience with ArchLinux?
I've only started to hear of it recently, but it seems to have gotten
quite popular in the last 6 months (or at least that's when I started
hearing about it a lot more).

-Tim
RHEL5, OEL5, and Debian, waiting for RHEL6 release...


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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-04 Thread Mountain Man
Walt wrote:
 Adblock+, noscript, and you should be good.

 Although I prefer dillo for all but the most intensive browsing, it's fast,
 if a bit spartan, and it doesn't eat memory like a pig. I think the newest
 version supports ssl fully as well.

One of these days I need to dig in to understanding linux.
I used to fool around with my winNT4 / win2000 installations years
ago, but have let the sons install the linux without any learning.  I
need to learn that stuff... what with only 2 days at work in these
depressing financial days... I need to commit to do that.  Although,
the last 3 weeks I have worked 5 days each week - yahoo... can it
continue?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-04 Thread Rich Thomas

It is the Summer of Recovery!

--R

On 9/4/10 10:11 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Walt wrote:
   

Adblock+, noscript, and you should be good.

Although I prefer dillo for all but the most intensive browsing, it's fast,
if a bit spartan, and it doesn't eat memory like a pig. I think the newest
version supports ssl fully as well.
 

One of these days I need to dig in to understanding linux.
I used to fool around with my winNT4 / win2000 installations years
ago, but have let the sons install the linux without any learning.  I
need to learn that stuff... what with only 2 days at work in these
depressing financial days... I need to commit to do that.  Although,
the last 3 weeks I have worked 5 days each week - yahoo... can it
continue?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

2010-09-04 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 It is the Summer of Recovery!

You watch too much npr.
Or, you listen to too much fox.
mao

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