Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My dad got some electric wheelchair batteries from someplace to put on our 
solar power system at camp. They're like 30ah. They were too small to be 
suitable on the camp but they make sweet lawnmower batteries. I don't even 
remember how long we've had them, 5 or 6 years maybe and they just keep going.

-Curt




On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 03:57:20 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





It’s just a lawn mower battery, nothing particularly unique. Get one at El 
Mercado de Wal or an auto parts store or Amazon

I got 2 of these. “ATV” battery.  They do the job.  They’re $43 now, I think 
they were $35 when I got them. 

ATV Battery YTX14-BS, UPLUS... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F8LSBVP

--FT
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> On Jan 16, 2024, at 3:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well mbpartssource (Laredo) MSRP is $174, with a discount of $56 so theirs 
> is $118 (plus shipping). Probably would be close to a wash with FCP Euro when 
> all said and done.
> 
> I might check at the local Interstate Battery shop for something compatible.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 15:33, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not
>> driving 70 miles one-way to buy a battery.
>> 
>> If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to
>> ship me one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?
>> 
>> I don't do Amazon.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.
>>> 
>>> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell
>>> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a
>>> battery.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Was going by the photo on FCP Euro site




On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 18:24, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2024-01-16 18:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> BTX14 appears to be the size of the battery case.
>
> BTX has the positive terminal on your right when the terminals are 
> facing you.
> The factory part seems to have it on your left.
> Is YTX14 the same size with reversed terminals?
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Its only (or primary) function really is to provide SBC power and I guess some 
things like the AC blower and radio leech off it somehow. I’m thinking if the 
SBC all the sudden loses power there are more significant issues to concern 
one’s self about. You mite loose your breaks!

My daughter’s 07E350 wagon doesn’t have SBC and has no aux battery. 

--FT
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> On Jan 16, 2024, at 5:15 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. If you’re not terribly worried about quality or longevity, there are 
> plenty of cheaper alternatives on the Island of Large Wimmen. No doubt on 
> other e-commerce sites as well. Heck, there’s even Batteries Plus if you’ve 
> got one nearby.
> 
> It looks like a small UPS battery.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s just a lawn mower battery, nothing particularly unique. Get one at El 
>> Mercado de Wal or an auto parts store or Amazon
>> 
>> I got 2 of these. “ATV” battery.  They do the job.  They’re $43 now, I think 
>> they were $35 when I got them.
>> 
>> ATV Battery YTX14-BS, UPLUS... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F8LSBVP
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jan 16, 2024, at 3:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well mbpartssource (Laredo) MSRP is $174, with a discount of $56 so theirs 
>>> is $118 (plus shipping). Probably would be close to a wash with FCP Euro 
>>> when all said and done.
>>> 
>>> I might check at the local Interstate Battery shop for something compatible.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 15:33, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not
 driving 70 miles one-way to buy a battery.
 
 If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to
 ship me one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?
 
 I don't do Amazon.
 
 
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of 
> them.
> 
> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell
> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a
> battery.
> 
> -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2024-01-16 18:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

BTX14 appears to be the size of the battery case.


BTX has the positive terminal on your right when the terminals are 
facing you.

The factory part seems to have it on your left.
Is YTX14 the same size with reversed terminals?

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
BTX14 appears to be the size of the battery case.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 17:59, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Specs on the battery label: 12V 12Ah 200A
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 17:51, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> That's the 2x2x4" battery I found this morning for $50s OE or teens from 
>> whoflungdung.
>>
>> The FPC link was MUCH larger. If I had the $170 size, I'd definitely 
>> measure it and find out what the generic battery model was.
>>
>> On 2024-01-16 10:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That's a good deal
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 1/16/24 9:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a 
 couple of times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, 
 so I guess it’s time to replace it.
 
 Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. 
 Details won’t show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 
 4039 is the part number.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Specs on the battery label: 12V 12Ah 200A


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 17:51, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> That's the 2x2x4" battery I found this morning for $50s OE or teens from 
> whoflungdung.
>
> The FPC link was MUCH larger. If I had the $170 size, I'd definitely 
> measure it and find out what the generic battery model was.
>
> On 2024-01-16 10:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> That's a good deal
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 1/16/24 9:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a 
>>> couple of times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, 
>>> so I guess it’s time to replace it.
>>> 
>>> Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. 
>>> Details won’t show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 
>>> 4039 is the part number.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
That's the 2x2x4" battery I found this morning for $50s OE or teens from 
whoflungdung.


The FPC link was MUCH larger. If I had the $170 size, I'd definitely 
measure it and find out what the generic battery model was.


On 2024-01-16 10:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

That's a good deal

--FT

On 1/16/24 9:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a 
couple of times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, 
so I guess it’s time to replace it.


Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. 
Details won’t show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 
4039 is the part number.



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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Agreed. If you’re not terribly worried about quality or longevity, there are 
plenty of cheaper alternatives on the Island of Large Wimmen. No doubt on other 
e-commerce sites as well. Heck, there’s even Batteries Plus if you’ve got one 
nearby.

It looks like a small UPS battery.

-D

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s just a lawn mower battery, nothing particularly unique. Get one at El 
> Mercado de Wal or an auto parts store or Amazon
> 
> I got 2 of these. “ATV” battery.  They do the job.  They’re $43 now, I think 
> they were $35 when I got them. 
> 
> ATV Battery YTX14-BS, UPLUS... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F8LSBVP
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 3:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well mbpartssource (Laredo) MSRP is $174, with a discount of $56 so theirs 
>> is $118 (plus shipping). Probably would be close to a wash with FCP Euro 
>> when all said and done.
>> 
>> I might check at the local Interstate Battery shop for something compatible.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 15:33, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not
>>> driving 70 miles one-way to buy a battery.
>>> 
>>> If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to
>>> ship me one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?
>>> 
>>> I don't do Amazon.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of 
 them.
 
 Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell
 them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a
 battery.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
It’s just a lawn mower battery, nothing particularly unique. Get one at El 
Mercado de Wal or an auto parts store or Amazon

I got 2 of these. “ATV” battery.  They do the job.  They’re $43 now, I think 
they were $35 when I got them. 

ATV Battery YTX14-BS, UPLUS... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F8LSBVP

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 3:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well mbpartssource (Laredo) MSRP is $174, with a discount of $56 so theirs 
> is $118 (plus shipping). Probably would be close to a wash with FCP Euro when 
> all said and done.
> 
> I might check at the local Interstate Battery shop for something compatible.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 15:33, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not
>> driving 70 miles one-way to buy a battery.
>> 
>> If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to
>> ship me one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?
>> 
>> I don't do Amazon.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.
>>> 
>>> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell
>>> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a
>>> battery.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well mbpartssource (Laredo) MSRP is $174, with a discount of $56 so theirs is 
$118 (plus shipping). Probably would be close to a wash with FCP Euro when all 
said and done.

I might check at the local Interstate Battery shop for something compatible.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 15:33, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not 
> driving 70 miles one-way to buy a battery.
>
> If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to 
> ship me one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?
>
> I don't do Amazon.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.
>>
>> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell 
>> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a 
>> battery.
>>
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Sounds convoluted, but I can order one from Amazon and ship it to you when it 
comes.


Rick

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I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not driving 70 
miles one-way to buy a battery.

If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to ship me 
one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?

I don't do Amazon.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.
>
> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell
> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a
> battery.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not driving 70 
miles one-way to buy a battery.

If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to ship me 
one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?

I don't do Amazon.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.
>
> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell 
> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a 
> battery.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.

Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell them? REV 
Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a battery.

-D

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:36 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Wow FCP Euro wants $160 for one.
> 
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-battery-ml350-ml63-amg-ml550-mer-0009829308
> 
> Even considering their lifetime warranty that's quite a markup.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 09:55, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a couple
>> of times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, so I
>> guess it’s time to replace it.
>> 
>> Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. Details
>> won’t show up online because they won’t sell batteries online.
>> 4039 is the part number.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Jan 16, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If i recall correctly that message on my w211 was indeed the auxiliary
>>> battery.
>>> 
 On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 11:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
 
 Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
 
 I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything
 seems to work as normal.
 
 Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Wow FCP Euro wants $160 for one.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-battery-ml350-ml63-amg-ml550-mer-0009829308

Even considering their lifetime warranty that's quite a markup.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 09:55, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a couple 
> of times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, so I 
> guess it’s time to replace it.
>
> Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. Details 
> won’t show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 
> 4039 is the part number.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If i recall correctly that message on my w211 was indeed the auxiliary
>> battery.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 11:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
>>> 
>>> Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything
>>> seems to work as normal.
>>> 
>>> Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

That's a good deal

--FT

On 1/16/24 9:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a couple of 
times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, so I guess it’s 
time to replace it.

Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. Details won’t 
show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 4039 is the 
part number.

-D



On Jan 16, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
wrote:

If i recall correctly that message on my w211 was indeed the auxiliary
battery.


On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 11:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.

Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.

I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything
seems to work as normal.

Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a couple of 
times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, so I guess it’s 
time to replace it.

Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. Details won’t 
show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 4039 is the 
part number.

-D


> On Jan 16, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If i recall correctly that message on my w211 was indeed the auxiliary
> battery.
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 11:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
>> 
>> Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
>> 
>> I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything
>> seems to work as normal.
>> 
>> Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
If i recall correctly that message on my w211 was indeed the auxiliary
battery.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 11:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
>
> Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
>
> I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything
> seems to work as normal.
>
> Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-16 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2024-01-16 00:03, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

The aux battery is getting weak. Time to replace it


Are they only one amp hour?

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-4039-Mercedes-00-Battery/dp/B007XRBCAK/

Does it matter if the terminals are reversed, or are the cables long 
enough to swap polarity?


https://www.amazon.com/CA1212-Casil-Rechargeable-Sealed-Battery/dp/B07TD9LKTH/

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Anything special about that job, i.e. to keep nannies happy?

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 00:03, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> The aux battery is getting weak. Time to replace it
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
>> 
>> Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
>> 
>> I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything 
>> seems to work as normal.
>> 
>> Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

2024-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The aux battery is getting weak. Time to replace it

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
> 
> Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
> 
> I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything 
> seems to work as normal.
> 
> Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?
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