Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioning lever replacement - 602.962

2005-11-26 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:


I was using the torque wrench, but don't think I reached much more
than 40-50 Lb/Ft. before it started feeling scary.

I remember Dave's ordeal --

Guess I was hoping that the '90 model would have been improved already.

Have there been any reports of successfully replacing the bearings in
the lever arm??


You DON'T replace the bearings, you replace the complete arm/bearing 
assembly. I've done it half a dozen times without any problem. If the 
threads ARE damaged, you MAY not be able to use the damaged cover or if 
you use it, it may fail unexpectedly.


I don't know what to tell you other than do the best you can and keep an 
eye on it.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioning lever replacement - 602.962

2005-11-26 Thread OK Don
 You DON'T replace the bearings, you replace the complete arm/bearing
 assembly. I've done it half a dozen times without any problem. If the
 threads ARE damaged, you MAY not be able to use the damaged cover or if
 you use it, it may fail unexpectedly.


I did replace the whole assembly, but kept the old one thinking about
replacing the bearings for future use.

 I don't know what to tell you other than do the best you can and keep an
 eye on it.


Exactly what I'll do. Maybe I should have used epoxy instead of Locktite - LOL.

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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioning lever replacement - 602.962

2005-11-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Have there been any reports of successfully replacing the bearings in
the lever arm??


Our SDL ate its new tensioner arm's bearings in what I consider to be
short order (two years?), so I replaced the bearing in it.  The original
is an odd size, a double-race job that is quite deep.  I couldn't easily
source it, so I used two single-race bearings with a spacer in between.

So far, so good.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioning lever replacement - 602.962

2005-11-25 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:

I replaced the badly worn belt tensioner lever (and pulley) on the '90
300D 2.5. last Wed. (beautiful day - 65F, sunny). The bolt that holds
the assembly to front of the timing case is supposed to be torqued to
100NM, about 74Lb/Ft.  I don't know how far I got, but as I was
tightening it, it reached a point where it felt like the pressure was
constant, and the bolt was still turning. It was very similar to the
felling you get from a bolt that is about to strip out the treads.
Since this is screwing into the aluminum case, I stopped. The bolt
does have a copious quantitiy of blue locktite (after cleaning the
threads), so I'm going to watch it and see if it stays in place.
I vagely remember a similar experience when I replaced the same part on the SDL.

Anyone else have this experience? Were the bearings just getting
pressed into place, or are the threads really in danger of stripping?


The answer is YES! In early OM60x engines MANY timing covers were 
stripped when tightened down. I can't tell you if it was carelessness 
(not using a torque wrench) or that the cover (its been revised at least 
once - maybe more) really was inadequate.


Dave M. has had the cover fail (really messy) and has pictures to prove 
it. Replacement of the timing cover is a BIG job (8-10 hours flat rate 
time as I recall). I have seen the threads strip. Later models should 
not be as vulnerable (I have NOT heard of NEARLY as many tensioner arm 
failures of any sort in '90s cars as with the assemblies in mid '80s cars)


Marshall
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