Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:57:55 -0600 Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe we already pay $.05 more in tax per gallon for diesel. Depends upon the state, though I don't know the specifics. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
I believe we already pay $.05 more in tax per gallon for diesel. Mike Piles 85 300SD 2000 VW TDI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:40 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 12:52:39PM -0800, redghost wrote: The ongoing discussion in government to install monitors in your car so they can tax you by miles instead of fuel used since we are all getting fuel sipping cars or using old popcorn oil California was considering that a while ago. Every time they do, some caltrans project goes millions over budget due to mismanagement or lined pockets. K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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you get a $4,000 tax credit (federal) to buy a hybrid or diesel, then get taked for it by the state! Rediculous. Chris James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this one http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost To: Mercedes list ; Banned List Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 28 00:06:17 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EgWXA-0007i3-W0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:06:17 + Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 20051128000610014003d7lqe; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:06:10 + Received: from osprey ([192.168.1.4]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1EgWWx-000Brs-Va for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:06:06 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:06:01 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:06:17 - This line of discussion kind of sums up my problem with concealed carry. It always seems to me that for it to make any sense as protection, you had to be ready to shoot at any time, with an itchy trigger finger. This *greatly* raises the odds that some innocent person is going to get shot in a misunderstanding. It certainly happens too often with cops, and cops are trained in that sort of thing, unlike someone who's just picked up a gun at the local pawn shop and tucked it in their belt. Not to mention, in the public place hero scenarios gun advocates like to talk about, there's the real problem of knowing who's on your side. Let's say some guy decides to rob the bank you're in and five people whip out pistols. How do you know who you need to shoot and who you don't? Some of them might be in on the job. Do you shoot all of them just to be sure?
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
Tom Hargrave wrote: It's an article about a proposal to levee an additional tax on hybrid vehicles because they burn less fuel pay less than their share if road tax. Oregon tried that for a while. They charged twice the normal registration fee on hybrids. I think they eventually backed down, though. Both look like double taxtation to me. All money is taxed multiple times. I'm skeptical of double taxation arguments.
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 12:52:39PM -0800, redghost wrote: The ongoing discussion in government to install monitors in your car so they can tax you by miles instead of fuel used since we are all getting fuel sipping cars or using old popcorn oil California was considering that a while ago. Every time they do, some caltrans project goes millions over budget due to mismanagement or lined pockets. K
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It's an article about a proposal to levee an additional tax on hybrid vehicles because they burn less fuel pay less than their share if road tax. The article also proposes a per mile tax on all vehicles, which we already pay through our fuel tax. Both look like double taxtation to me. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:30 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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try this one http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Tom writes: It's an article about a proposal to levee an additional tax on hybrid vehicles because they burn less fuel pay less than their share if road tax. The article also proposes a per mile tax on all vehicles, which we already pay through our fuel tax. Your elected officials at work. This is the same administration that responded to the recent fuel shortage by releasing some of our strategic reserves and never asking us once to turn our thermostats down, carpool or combine trips. It's also the same administration that gives tax credits for buying hybrids, insulation and solar energy components. Wonder how they're going to tax my *bicycle*. Or maybe they'll give me a tax credit for buying my next one. Farging idiots. Lee 2001 Colnago C40 (and a bunch of others!)
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?W48C1693C this may make it work The ongoing discussion in government to install monitors in your car so they can tax you by miles instead of fuel used since we are all getting fuel sipping cars or using old popcorn oil On Sunday, November 27, 2005, at 08:30 AM, Mike Canfield wrote: Clay, The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? How can I access it? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290ID=kcbsscategory=Computers -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
