Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Thank you. --R On 9/29/14 7:45 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: some people just have no class On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: --R wrote: I am wearing chinee work boots right now... Heathen!! Yeah, eff your neighbor and watch him disappear as all jobs disappear. Your examples of PRC that works is idiot short sighted. Hear the prophet. Speak, Gary. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again... -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway. keep it up! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again... -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
The thing is that the Chinesium stuff is generally good enough which makes it hard to justify the real thing. For instance I put cheap Advance Auto calipers on my '83 240D years ago because they were what I could get on a Saturday afternoon. They lasted the whole 25,000 miles I had the car and never gave any trouble. It would have been hard to justify more expensive calipers. Same with the cheap rotors and pads I put on it. I'd bought the car for $400, the brake job cost another I think $250... -Curt From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway. keep it up! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again... -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The thing is that the Chinesium stuff is generally good enough which makes it hard to justify the real thing. For instance I put cheap Advance Auto calipers on my '83 240D years ago because they were what I could get on a Saturday afternoon. They lasted the whole 25,000 miles I had the car and never gave any trouble. It would have been hard to justify more expensive calipers. Same with the cheap rotors and pads I put on it. I'd bought the car for $400, the brake job cost another I think $250... -Curt From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway. keep it up! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again... -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
And the Chinese-made sub 40 below $40C Canadian Tire boots kept my feet toasty in the dead of Winnipeg winters. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Yeah I hear you, my LL Bean hiking boots are made in Italy, they're twice as much money as the Chinee ones but last 3x as long. I'm just saying on a $400 car it doesn't make sense to use $150 calipers. -Curt From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The thing is that the Chinesium stuff is generally good enough which makes it hard to justify the real thing. For instance I put cheap Advance Auto calipers on my '83 240D years ago because they were what I could get on a Saturday afternoon. They lasted the whole 25,000 miles I had the car and never gave any trouble. It would have been hard to justify more expensive calipers. Same with the cheap rotors and pads I put on it. I'd bought the car for $400, the brake job cost another I think $250... -Curt From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway. keep it up! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again... -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i really do desire them in my heart. i might someday get some wolverine 1000 mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm crazy. check em out :) http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
ok, here is my issue. my feet sort of measure out as follows: L: 13EE/D R: 12EE/C so i've got a mess with any pair of shoes made. AE would tend to size at a choice of 13E or 13EEE on casual shoes, which in JM terminology would leave me to choose between 13E/C or 13EEE/E. the former are going to be too snug and the latter too big. alden sells 13EE/D (they's invert it and write it as 13D/EE) and they have some models with a huge toe box for my mangled feet. so this is the sole reason (eh, i'm funny!) that i prefer to wear alden over AE at this very moment, although i really do love my chromexcel AEs best of all On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Everyone already thinks you are crazy, so boots would not be a factor. I have a pair of leather Redwing boots I got in college to wear in winter snow, they have waffle treads and no insulation, which at the time was not really something you could find. I think they are in a box somewhere, I would wear them occasionally when I was doing some sort of work where they were useful. Last time I wore them I put some shoe oil on them as they were drying out a bit (they originally had oily leather). I guess I have at least 40 years in them now, maybe I should wear them a bit more. --R On 9/29/14 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i really do desire them in my heart. i might someday get some wolverine 1000 mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm crazy. check em out :) http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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what?? someone thinks i'm crazy who? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Everyone already thinks you are crazy, so boots would not be a factor. I have a pair of leather Redwing boots I got in college to wear in winter snow, they have waffle treads and no insulation, which at the time was not really something you could find. I think they are in a box somewhere, I would wear them occasionally when I was doing some sort of work where they were useful. Last time I wore them I put some shoe oil on them as they were drying out a bit (they originally had oily leather). I guess I have at least 40 years in them now, maybe I should wear them a bit more. --R On 9/29/14 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i really do desire them in my heart. i might someday get some wolverine 1000 mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm crazy. check em out :) http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
I suppose they're the bees knees but their boots look like sizzle without steak to me. Far too showy to be tramping through the mud and guck. They do appear to have a good working tread, probably bought from the same supplier as my Red Wings are. That they don't mention being waterproof would make me nervous though... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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You know that A-E will make up a pair of shoes to fit different sized feet. They do it all of the time, and it's one of their hallmarks. Dan On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ok, here is my issue. my feet sort of measure out as follows: L: 13EE/D R: 12EE/C so i've got a mess with any pair of shoes made. AE would tend to size at a choice of 13E or 13EEE on casual shoes, which in JM terminology would leave me to choose between 13E/C or 13EEE/E. the former are going to be too snug and the latter too big. alden sells 13EE/D (they's invert it and write it as 13D/EE) and they have some models with a huge toe box for my mangled feet. so this is the sole reason (eh, i'm funny!) that i prefer to wear alden over AE at this very moment, although i really do love my chromexcel AEs best of all ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Truthfully, I wouldn't buy boots from A-E unless they were for dress. Red Wings are by far the very best boots I have owned, although it's been a long time since I've had any. That's the only boot my Dad would buy (he was also the one who introduced me to A-E) and he bought them for my brother and I as well. I think the last pair I had I outgrew before they wore out Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I suppose they're the bees knees but their boots look like sizzle without steak to me. Far too showy to be tramping through the mud and guck. They do appear to have a good working tread, probably bought from the same supplier as my Red Wings are. That they don't mention being waterproof would make me nervous though... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
i'll probably get wolverine or red wing if i end up getting boots. if i moved to central florida, maybe i can justify them more as a tool for dealing with the terrain. right now, though, i live in a paved over mangrove swamp with pumps to keep the water out. totally just artificial apart from the beach, which i suspect is even mostly artificial On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Truthfully, I wouldn't buy boots from A-E unless they were for dress. Red Wings are by far the very best boots I have owned, although it's been a long time since I've had any. That's the only boot my Dad would buy (he was also the one who introduced me to A-E) and he bought them for my brother and I as well. I think the last pair I had I outgrew before they wore out Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I suppose they're the bees knees but their boots look like sizzle without steak to me. Far too showy to be tramping through the mud and guck. They do appear to have a good working tread, probably bought from the same supplier as my Red Wings are. That they don't mention being waterproof would make me nervous though... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like lesser boots. I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I don't wear them all that much in the summer. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter? I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
--R wrote: I am wearing chinee work boots right now... Heathen!! Yeah, eff your neighbor and watch him disappear as all jobs disappear. Your examples of PRC that works is idiot short sighted. Hear the prophet. Speak, Gary. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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some people just have no class On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: --R wrote: I am wearing chinee work boots right now... Heathen!! Yeah, eff your neighbor and watch him disappear as all jobs disappear. Your examples of PRC that works is idiot short sighted. Hear the prophet. Speak, Gary. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
A new front brake disc is around $48 from the dealer. You can buy cheaper ones, but in a critical system why would you cut corners? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My 83 300TD. The car shudders in the rear when I brake. I also need a front sunroof seal (manual s/r). Where can I get an OEM seal that will work? On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did you check the dealer? When you factor shipping in they might be cheaper. What vehicle is this for? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bosch, Bremo, or Ate. What's the difference? Bosch is noticeably cheaper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: cause chinese garbage is fun! So which brands are not chinese garbage? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:34:45 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: zimmermann, balo and mercedes are not chinese. the rest all are. i usually sell the zimmermann or balo coated versions i don't see why one would prefer chinese blanks finished in china vs italian blanks finished in germany, but i'm always happy to be enlightened I think people buy the other brands out of ignorance because at one time they were indeed German products. That's why I asked which were good brands. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
i can't say they are definitive bad products but when they went chinese without dropping the prices, well, i didn't feel any need to think about them anymore. if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:34:45 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: zimmermann, balo and mercedes are not chinese. the rest all are. i usually sell the zimmermann or balo coated versions i don't see why one would prefer chinese blanks finished in china vs italian blanks finished in germany, but i'm always happy to be enlightened I think people buy the other brands out of ignorance because at one time they were indeed German products. That's why I asked which were good brands. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
So, do have alternatives that you do think about now? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i can't say they are definitive bad products but when they went chinese without dropping the prices, well, i didn't feel any need to think about them anymore. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: cause chinese garbage is fun! So which brands are not chinese garbage? I don't mind Chinese garbage, as long as I don't pay much more than $1/lb for it. But I'm with Gary, if made in China carries the same price (like Vise-Grips), I'm not buying it. Is Balo still good? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
zimmermann and balo are still german as is mercedes. if you get the coated zim or balo, you are basically at the latest mercedes spec but they are not OEM as mercedes finishes their own rotors in house. those are probably the only 3 i sell anymore, with a slight bias for zimmermann but i don't have any sort of real reason for that On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: cause chinese garbage is fun! So which brands are not chinese garbage? I don't mind Chinese garbage, as long as I don't pay much more than $1/lb for it. But I'm with Gary, if made in China carries the same price (like Vise-Grips), I'm not buying it. Is Balo still good? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
How could Bosch be Chinese? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
it's a box. do you imagine there is a bosch brake rotor factory in teh black forest? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How could Bosch be Chinese? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Gary wrote: it's a box. do you imagine there is a bosch brake rotor factory in teh black forest? It is the same in every sector of our economy and all economies of the planet. Medicine, manufacturing, consulting, design - it is all sourced to chink/India and is generally poor quality. Poorer quality than USA wage might afford, I generalize. Poorer quality than we typically expect. Yeah, your 172 Cessna would not be here today if sourced that way. Nor our W123. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
Gary wrote: zimmermann and balo are still german as is mercedes. ... those are probably the only 3 i sell anymore... Excellent parts supplier info - thank you Gary!! ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
