Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
CDL, interstate road taxes, insurance, etc.

Being an owner-operator is not a terribly profitable job.

Dan

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 On Nov 9, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:24:12 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's the GO BIG OR GO HOME section.. haha
 
 Definitely the bring money section... many items in the $20,000 plus
 range.. which seems a bit strange considering Craigslist other sections.
 
 I've seen some in the  $100k range.
 
 
 Glad I could expand your needs... sorry for the permanent damage it
 will do to your marriage and bank account... ;))
 
 Thank you for your condolences.
 
 It did, however, inspire a wild idea: Purchase a tractor and trailer and
 use those to move to Indiana. Then I could have another source of income
 once I got there.
 
 I'm sure there are many requirements to this that I don't know. I think
 such vehicles need to be inspected, but I'm not sure. Beyond that, how
 hard could it be?  :-)
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

CDL, interstate road taxes, insurance, etc.

Being an owner-operator is not a terribly profitable job.


A friend of mine would rather rent a forklift for a month than tow one to a job 
and go through all the DOT bullpuckey just to have a trailer behind a F-350.




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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 09:38:43 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
  CDL, interstate road taxes, insurance, etc.
  
  Being an owner-operator is not a terribly profitable job.
 
 A friend of mine would rather rent a forklift for a month than tow one
 to a job and go through all the DOT bullpuckey just to have a trailer
 behind a F-350.

At what size of trailer does one need to have DOT compliance?
Or is it commercial versus private?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes



It did, however, inspire a wild idea: Purchase a tractor and trailer and
use those to move to Indiana. Then I could have another source of income
once I got there.

I'm sure there are many requirements to this that I don't know. I think
such vehicles need to be inspected, but I'm not sure. Beyond that, how
hard could it be?  :-)

Craig


A friend of mine who started with one L1113 MB truck in 1976, and 
grew the business to maybe 100 trucks and at least 2 depots always 
said you don't make any money with the tractor.  You make money with 
the trailer


Unless you want to commit to a CDL and life bouncing over the road, 
you could buy a trailer and use it foe moving and storage.   A dry 
van that is roadworthy and has a recent DOT inspection can be had for 
$2500 to $5000.  Residual scrap value is $1200 to $2500.


You can hire a tractor and driver.  Keep in mind that FTL freight is 
about $3 to $3.50/mile and for a one way haul, you will probably pay 
$5 to $7 per mile one way, as you are in reality paying the tractor 
and driver to bobtail back home from IN.  Unless you get really lucky 
and find someone who has a load going the other way.  (bought a new 
trailer in IL or IN and needs to get it home)


Dunno about your state, but here it is $35 a year to license a 
trailer.  Insurance goes with the tractor, unless you want ins for 
the parked, unhooked trailer.


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Craig wrote:
 
 It did, however, inspire a wild idea: Purchase a tractor and
 trailer and use those to move to Indiana. Then I could have
 another source of income once I got there.
 
 I'm sure there are many requirements to this that I don't know. I
 think such vehicles need to be inspected, but I'm not sure.
 Beyond that, how hard could it be?  :-)

If it's not a commercial vehicle, (for hire) then it's a lot
simpler.  Maybe you could register and license it as an RV.  Then
you wouldn't need any special license and the rig would be exempt
from fuel tax permits, etc.  In many states you could even bypass
the scales.  I'd be sure to have my papers proving it should the
scalemaster send anyone after you for missing the scale house.

And you'd learn what slow really means.  A 240D with an automatic
transmission will outrun 'most any big truck in a drag race.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
  Craig wrote:
 
  I'm sure there are many requirements to this that I don't know.
  I think such vehicles need to be inspected, but I'm not sure.
  Beyond that, how hard could it be?  :-)

 Dan wrote:
 
 CDL, interstate road taxes, insurance, etc.
 
 Being an owner-operator is not a terribly profitable job.

Generating income after the move is a different topic than a
private haul.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Craig via Mercedes wrote:


At what size of trailer does one need to have DOT compliance?
Or is it commercial versus private?


I think once you put magnetic signs for your business on the doors of the pickup 
without painting DOT numbers on it you're asking for it.


Back in 2002, he could drive a 28' box truck full of materials with a helper 
driving an F350 towing a couple of fork trucks and a scissors lift, no DOT 
numbers or weigh stations AFAIK, or maybe he just didn't know any better.


By 2005 he'd sold the box truck because it had to stop at weigh stations.
Soon after, he'd had problems with the F350 because its GVWR was over 10k and 
switched to a F250.


In recent years the F250 has DOT numbers on it and he gripes a lot.
I don't know if it's because it is used for business or because the combined 
truck/trailer weight is over 10k.


I used to read about Hot-Shots hauling freight with F350s and Ram 3500s maybe 
10-15 years ago, and that end of the business seemed to be about as regulated as 
gypsy taxis. Maybe my friend who works on factory conveyor systems just got 
caught up in a regulatory crackdown on the hotshots. I do know that as a guy who 
hauls his own tools on the road about 10-20 times a year, he doesn't think he 
should bear the same regulatory costs as somebody who has a long haul semi on 
the road 300 days a year.


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
DOT inspection is a requirement for both the truck and trailer. Insurance
for a commercial truck will shock your socks off. Trailer not so much.
License for truck will run in the thousands per year. Trailer license, if
done as a permanent tag could run in the $500 range [perhaps, depending on
what state you choose to register it in].

To drive said semi tractor, even without a trailer attached, you will be
required to hold a commerical license [more $$$, and more DOT physicals,
and more regulations..] If you get a ticket in your private vehicle, for
example, and hold a commercial license, it could cause loss of license and
fine at the commercial level.

I presently own two 53 ft trailers. Permanent license tags. It is much
cheaper to hire a driver with a semi tractor to move them with contents,
when I need to, than to own and maintain a tractor and commercial license.
[expect some delay, drivers are in short supply.]

Good luck...

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:24:12 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's the GO BIG OR GO HOME section.. haha
 
  Definitely the bring money section... many items in the $20,000 plus
  range.. which seems a bit strange considering Craigslist other sections.

 I've seen some in the  $100k range.


  Glad I could expand your needs... sorry for the permanent damage it
  will do to your marriage and bank account... ;))

 Thank you for your condolences.

 It did, however, inspire a wild idea: Purchase a tractor and trailer and
 use those to move to Indiana. Then I could have another source of income
 once I got there.

 I'm sure there are many requirements to this that I don't know. I think
 such vehicles need to be inspected, but I'm not sure. Beyond that, how
 hard could it be?  :-)


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
My wife worked with a guy who collected cars (he had an S600 he bought 
cheap, said he had no problems with it, surprising, I would see it 
parked next to my wife's SD in the parking lot) and told me he had a big 
tractor/trailer he would drive around to collect them. I asked if that 
was a problem, licensing and all that.  He said he got a CDL and took 
one of those classes on driving the truck but other than that it wasn't 
a big deal.  I guess since it was a private owner different rules applied?


I never pursued the car thing, I should try to do that.  He lives around 
here somewhere on a farm with a big barn he said.


--R


On 11/9/14 2:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

DOT inspection is a requirement for both the truck and trailer. Insurance
for a commercial truck will shock your socks off. Trailer not so much.
License for truck will run in the thousands per year. Trailer license, if
done as a permanent tag could run in the $500 range [perhaps, depending on
what state you choose to register it in].

To drive said semi tractor, even without a trailer attached, you will be
required to hold a commerical license [more $$$, and more DOT physicals,
and more regulations..] If you get a ticket in your private vehicle, for
example, and hold a commercial license, it could cause loss of license and
fine at the commercial level.

I presently own two 53 ft trailers. Permanent license tags. It is much
cheaper to hire a driver with a semi tractor to move them with contents,
when I need to, than to own and maintain a tractor and commercial license.
[expect some delay, drivers are in short supply.]

Good luck...

Grant...



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I have a friend who converted a semi trailer to a motor home, and pulls it
with a semi tractor. The whole rig is licensed as a motor home and he
drives it with a regular auto license [all legal] since it's not on the
books as a commercial vehicle. However, if he hooks on to my semi trailers,
it becomes illegal.. [go figure]... and subject to huge fines and driving
suspension..

There are provisions for farm use, for example, a farmer owns a truck to
take his product to market... but not for hire..
Seems the cut comes when you do it for hire.. but DOT police are about the
most unforgiving of the lot, I'm told...
Arrest, impound, towing your rig.. etc.. is pretty standard stuff for
them.. We are from the government and we are not happy until you are not
happy seems to be their creed.

FWIW.. know the law before you break it.. ;))

Grant...

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 My wife worked with a guy who collected cars (he had an S600 he bought
 cheap, said he had no problems with it, surprising, I would see it parked
 next to my wife's SD in the parking lot) and told me he had a big
 tractor/trailer he would drive around to collect them. I asked if that was
 a problem, licensing and all that.  He said he got a CDL and took one of
 those classes on driving the truck but other than that it wasn't a big
 deal.  I guess since it was a private owner different rules applied?

 I never pursued the car thing, I should try to do that.  He lives around
 here somewhere on a farm with a big barn he said.

 --R


 On 11/9/14 2:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 DOT inspection is a requirement for both the truck and trailer. Insurance
 for a commercial truck will shock your socks off. Trailer not so much.
 License for truck will run in the thousands per year. Trailer license, if
 done as a permanent tag could run in the $500 range [perhaps, depending on
 what state you choose to register it in].

 To drive said semi tractor, even without a trailer attached, you will be
 required to hold a commerical license [more $$$, and more DOT physicals,
 and more regulations..] If you get a ticket in your private vehicle, for
 example, and hold a commercial license, it could cause loss of license and
 fine at the commercial level.

 I presently own two 53 ft trailers. Permanent license tags. It is much
 cheaper to hire a driver with a semi tractor to move them with contents,
 when I need to, than to own and maintain a tractor and commercial license.
 [expect some delay, drivers are in short supply.]

 Good luck...

 Grant...



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
After my Dad passed my Mom worked for a couple of different people over the 
years just to keep busy and have some pin money.  One of the places she worked 
with was an equipment moving company that hauled stuff all over the US.

She answered phones, so she would be the first point of contact when the 
drivers called in to Dispatch.  She said that there were certain states where 
the drivers knew they would be stopped and scrutinized, and often kept off the 
road until things were put in order by the state DOT boys.

She also said that most of their drivers had multiple driver's licenses, a 
chosen one which they would present when stopped depending on the state they 
were in.

I worked next to Mayflower's national headquarters in Zionsville, IN when I 
first started in the generator business.  Mayflower recruited drivers big time, 
providing training, tractors, etc.  Many of them came by our place because they 
were using power units powered by Onan engines for heating the cab and 
providing electricity.

From what most of them told us, they were beholden to Mayflower for pretty 
much the next decade or so, as it would take that long to pay off the tractor 
and training expenses that Mayflower fronted them.  We also heard stories 
about new drivers who wanted to stay in motels rather than their sleepers, and 
how they often ended up in the hole or close to bankruptcy as a result.  
Expenses were so tight that you pretty much had to live in the truck to make a 
decent living, or so we were told.

Dan

 On Nov 9, 2014, at 3:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I have a friend who converted a semi trailer to a motor home, and pulls it
 with a semi tractor. The whole rig is licensed as a motor home and he
 drives it with a regular auto license [all legal] since it's not on the
 books as a commercial vehicle. However, if he hooks on to my semi trailers,
 it becomes illegal.. [go figure]... and subject to huge fines and driving
 suspension..
 
 There are provisions for farm use, for example, a farmer owns a truck to
 take his product to market... but not for hire..
 Seems the cut comes when you do it for hire.. but DOT police are about the
 most unforgiving of the lot, I'm told...
 Arrest, impound, towing your rig.. etc.. is pretty standard stuff for
 them.. We are from the government and we are not happy until you are not
 happy seems to be their creed.
 
 FWIW.. know the law before you break it.. ;))
 
 Grant...
 
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 My wife worked with a guy who collected cars (he had an S600 he bought
 cheap, said he had no problems with it, surprising, I would see it parked
 next to my wife's SD in the parking lot) and told me he had a big
 tractor/trailer he would drive around to collect them. I asked if that was
 a problem, licensing and all that.  He said he got a CDL and took one of
 those classes on driving the truck but other than that it wasn't a big
 deal.  I guess since it was a private owner different rules applied?
 
 I never pursued the car thing, I should try to do that.  He lives around
 here somewhere on a farm with a big barn he said.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 11/9/14 2:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
 
 DOT inspection is a requirement for both the truck and trailer. Insurance
 for a commercial truck will shock your socks off. Trailer not so much.
 License for truck will run in the thousands per year. Trailer license, if
 done as a permanent tag could run in the $500 range [perhaps, depending on
 what state you choose to register it in].
 
 To drive said semi tractor, even without a trailer attached, you will be
 required to hold a commerical license [more $$$, and more DOT physicals,
 and more regulations..] If you get a ticket in your private vehicle, for
 example, and hold a commercial license, it could cause loss of license and
 fine at the commercial level.
 
 I presently own two 53 ft trailers. Permanent license tags. It is much
 cheaper to hire a driver with a semi tractor to move them with contents,
 when I need to, than to own and maintain a tractor and commercial license.
 [expect some delay, drivers are in short supply.]
 
 Good luck...
 
 Grant...
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I used to read about Hot-Shots hauling freight with F350s and Ram 
3500s maybe 10-15 years ago, and that end of the business seemed to 
be about as regulated as gypsy taxis. Maybe my friend who works on 
factory conveyor systems just got caught up in a regulatory 
crackdown on the hotshots. I do know that as a guy who hauls his own 
tools on the road about 10-20 times a year, he doesn't think he 
should bear the same regulatory costs as somebody who has a long 
haul semi on the road 300 days a year.


Mitch.


It is the goobermnt trying to take care of you.

Very insightful.  http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/current  Nov 14 
column.   He nails the dissonance between wanting to help people and 
creating dependency to feel good.



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not sure how long ago you are taking about a person having multiple licenses 
but that would not work today, all that is on a national database with cdl, 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 After my Dad passed my Mom worked for a couple of different people over the 
 years just to keep busy and have some pin money.  One of the places she 
 worked with was an equipment moving company that hauled stuff all over the US.
 
 She answered phones, so she would be the first point of contact when the 
 drivers called in to Dispatch.  She said that there were certain states where 
 the drivers knew they would be stopped and scrutinized, and often kept off 
 the road until things were put in order by the state DOT boys.
 
 She also said that most of their drivers had multiple driver's licenses, a 
 chosen one which they would present when stopped depending on the state they 
 were in.
 
 I worked next to Mayflower's national headquarters in Zionsville, IN when I 
 first started in the generator business.  Mayflower recruited drivers big 
 time, providing training, tractors, etc.  Many of them came by our place 
 because they were using power units powered by Onan engines for heating the 
 cab and providing electricity.
 
 From what most of them told us, they were beholden to Mayflower for pretty 
 much the next decade or so, as it would take that long to pay off the tractor 
 and training expenses that Mayflower fronted them.  We also heard stories 
 about new drivers who wanted to stay in motels rather than their sleepers, 
 and how they often ended up in the hole or close to bankruptcy as a result.  
 Expenses were so tight that you pretty much had to live in the truck to make 
 a decent living, or so we were told.
 
 Dan
 
 On Nov 9, 2014, at 3:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have a friend who converted a semi trailer to a motor home, and pulls it
 with a semi tractor. The whole rig is licensed as a motor home and he
 drives it with a regular auto license [all legal] since it's not on the
 books as a commercial vehicle. However, if he hooks on to my semi trailers,
 it becomes illegal.. [go figure]... and subject to huge fines and driving
 suspension..
 
 There are provisions for farm use, for example, a farmer owns a truck to
 take his product to market... but not for hire..
 Seems the cut comes when you do it for hire.. but DOT police are about the
 most unforgiving of the lot, I'm told...
 Arrest, impound, towing your rig.. etc.. is pretty standard stuff for
 them.. We are from the government and we are not happy until you are not
 happy seems to be their creed.
 
 FWIW.. know the law before you break it.. ;))
 
 Grant...
 
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 My wife worked with a guy who collected cars (he had an S600 he bought
 cheap, said he had no problems with it, surprising, I would see it parked
 next to my wife's SD in the parking lot) and told me he had a big
 tractor/trailer he would drive around to collect them. I asked if that was
 a problem, licensing and all that.  He said he got a CDL and took one of
 those classes on driving the truck but other than that it wasn't a big
 deal.  I guess since it was a private owner different rules applied?
 
 I never pursued the car thing, I should try to do that.  He lives around
 here somewhere on a farm with a big barn he said.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 11/9/14 2:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
 
 DOT inspection is a requirement for both the truck and trailer. Insurance
 for a commercial truck will shock your socks off. Trailer not so much.
 License for truck will run in the thousands per year. Trailer license, if
 done as a permanent tag could run in the $500 range [perhaps, depending on
 what state you choose to register it in].
 
 To drive said semi tractor, even without a trailer attached, you will be
 required to hold a commerical license [more $$$, and more DOT physicals,
 and more regulations..] If you get a ticket in your private vehicle, for
 example, and hold a commercial license, it could cause loss of license and
 fine at the commercial level.
 
 I presently own two 53 ft trailers. Permanent license tags. It is much
 cheaper to hire a driver with a semi tractor to move them with contents,
 when I need to, than to own and maintain a tractor and commercial license.
 [expect some delay, drivers are in short supply.]
 
 Good luck...
 
 Grant...
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm guessing but it was probably in the late 80s, early 90s.


 On Nov 9, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Not sure how long ago you are taking about a person having multiple licenses 
 but that would not work today, all that is on a national database with cdl, 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
For sale as is, where is:

Translation:  Police impound lot, with tow charges and impound fees. I need
the money to pay my lawyer and make bail. All my working girls are out of
business with the drug bust and I'm having a hard time...

I just need to get out so I can get back to my honor scholarship studies...

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It's always shocking, but they live among us.. 18 years of government
mandated education and still unable to communicate clearly in written
English.

As for the car, I believe perhaps the group should invest in this item for
sale. Seems the only logical end to some of the special sale items that
have been posted lately...

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/hvo/4724791899.html

It is mobile... should work..
To harsh?

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:44 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 How does anybody get crap like that to post.  My system tries to correct
 stuff like that when I try to duplicate it, and I hafta to force it to let
 the crap go through - word by word.


 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com
 To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 10:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Crack Smoker


  Oooh!   Ooh!  I've an idea for a new mobile application:
 An auto-correct module that messes all your stuff up, makes
 you look like an illiterate boob so you fit right into the
 'hood.

 Hmm, the regular ones do that well enough.  Probably no
 market for it.

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds about right - but it is a bit pricey . . .

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 As for the car, I believe perhaps the group should invest in this item for
 sale. Seems the only logical end to some of the special sale items that
 have been posted lately...

 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/hvo/4724791899.html

 It is mobile... should work..
 To harsh?

 Grant...



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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-08 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
It'd take 250 free for the hauling cars to pay for it, and another 
10 or 20 to pay for the fuel to crush the cars to pay for it.




Sounds about right - but it is a bit pricey . . .

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:



 As for the car, I believe perhaps the group should invest in this item for
 sale. Seems the only logical end to some of the special sale items that
 have been posted lately...

 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/hvo/4724791899.html

 It is mobile... should work..
 To harsh?

 Grant...




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OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:48:40 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 As for the car, I believe perhaps the group should invest in this item
 for sale. Seems the only logical end to some of the special sale
 items that have been posted lately...
 
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/hvo/4724791899.html
 
 It is mobile... should work..
 To harsh?

I had not realized there was a heavy equipment section on craigslist.
Lots of interesting stuff there. Thanks for the post.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It's the GO BIG OR GO HOME section.. haha

Definitely the bring money section... many items in the $20,000 plus
range.. which seems a bit strange considering Craigslist other sections.

Glad I could expand your needs... sorry for the permanent damage it will
do to your marriage and bank account... ;))

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:48:40 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  As for the car, I believe perhaps the group should invest in this item
  for sale. Seems the only logical end to some of the special sale
  items that have been posted lately...
 
  http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/hvo/4724791899.html
 
  It is mobile... should work..
  To harsh?

 I had not realized there was a heavy equipment section on craigslist.
 Lots of interesting stuff there. Thanks for the post.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Today's CL Crack Smoker

2014-11-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:24:12 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's the GO BIG OR GO HOME section.. haha
 
 Definitely the bring money section... many items in the $20,000 plus
 range.. which seems a bit strange considering Craigslist other sections.

I've seen some in the  $100k range.


 Glad I could expand your needs... sorry for the permanent damage it
 will do to your marriage and bank account... ;))

Thank you for your condolences.

It did, however, inspire a wild idea: Purchase a tractor and trailer and
use those to move to Indiana. Then I could have another source of income
once I got there.

I'm sure there are many requirements to this that I don't know. I think
such vehicles need to be inspected, but I'm not sure. Beyond that, how
hard could it be?  :-)


Craig

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