Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-04 Thread redghost
Libertarians espouse the idea that your actions are fine as long as they do not infringe upon the actions of others. Some crazed crack head with a .45 is not behaving in an appropriate manner that supports that ideology, therefore must be put down On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 09:55 AM,

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-04 Thread LT Don
Quotes page! On 9/2/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** It's the wild west down there, now. We're seeing a libertarian's dream world; no government, just people and guns. ___ -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-04 Thread David Brodbeck
LT Don wrote: Quotes page! On 9/2/05, *David Brodbeck* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** It's the wild west down there, now. We're seeing a libertarian's dream world; no government, just people and guns. To be fair, I s'pose it's technically an

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread David Brodbeck
JabbaHursty wrote: what we have now is pretty terrible though. this country is no longer a place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is becoming non-existent. Oh, I agree with you there. That situation has nothing to do with the presence or lack of guns, however,

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread JabbaHursty
it has to do as well with the government having given up on the concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any responsibilities. look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the carnage

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread LT Don
On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has to do as well with the government having given up on the concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any responsibilities. look at how as i type

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread LT Don
Jabba ... Naw, never mind. Don On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has to do as well with the government having given up on the concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of its citizens. I'm no

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away law enforcement. Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on? On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jabba ... Naw, never mind. Don On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:23:39 -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away law enforcement.  Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on? It's the wild west down there, now.  We're seeing a libertarian's dream world; no government,

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread redghost
I understand the order of the day is shoot to kill for the Guard. A general cleansing of looters would solve the helo issues as well as reduce the drain on relief agencies. Or, they are not really looters, but Al Queda has hit US shores. Shoot to kill anyway On Friday, September 2, 2005,

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
- From: JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY i agree with that. i think gun control is a great contributor to crime

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Mike Canfield wrote: People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone carried a firearm. 'Course, you got hung if people *thought* you stole a horse. Whether you actually did it or not was unimportant,

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread JabbaHursty
that have No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the front door or window. Ken --- Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]JabbaHursty To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY i agree with that. i

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread JabbaHursty
what we have now is pretty terrible though. this country is no longer a place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is becoming non-existent. if you have the money, you can buy your way out of this malaise and just watch it on tv. if you come up short, though, it's a

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs?? On 8/30/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my PPK/S. I think Kate would have

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna. On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the dog thing is out of control. all the kids like to dress up as gang bangers and get pit bulls. they don't care for the animals and they end up just roaming the area. animal

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Canfield
, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna. On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the dog thing is out of control. all the kids like to dress up as gang bangers and get pit bulls

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
twice if they KNOW that the intended victim is armed. My $.02, Mike - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]andrew strasfogel To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY They oughta ban pit

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Mitch Haley
JabbaHursty wrote: i don't like the pit bulls though. they are dangerous animals. you can't watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit bull. i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever. I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them because they're not labelled an aggressive breed. Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect. Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
By that faulty logic, Canada, Japan and England should be cesspools of crime. The only crime that gets the news in Toronto is all the handgun homicides, at least 1/2 of which occur due to guns smuggled in from the US. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly. the other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride. so i went for a ride with them. nice dogs also, there is a difference between being

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
in areas where there is no crime to begin with, there is no reason for a handgun. if i lived in japan, i wouldn't have any feeling of need to pack a .45. The USA is a different deal. the fact is that in many areas of this country, violent crime is an everyday thing. At 01:42 PM

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and mehitibel - no upper case letters. So much more readable... On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly. the other day, i was cleaning my car

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Of course, the content is another matter entirely! On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and mehitibel - no upper case letters. So much more readable... On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
brilliant, huh? At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote: Of course, the content is another matter entirely! On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and mehitibel - no upper case letters. So

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
, and who drives a rod-bender. Bob Rentfro '77300D 138K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: JabbaHursty To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY brilliant, huh? At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Potter, Tom E
: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY So...it seems that the worst possible thing on the planet would be a pistol packin' Golden Retriever who asks questions about Mobil 1, who inquires about ALDA adjustments, who has input on any computer/server/list splitting discussions, who doesn't know his car's 0-60

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY brilliant, huh? At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote: Of course, the content is another matter entirely! On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread kweimer
- From: JabbaHursty To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY i agree with that. i think gun control is a great contributor to crime. walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is armed. think

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
Firearms Permitted on the front door or window. Ken --- Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]JabbaHursty To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY i agree with that. i think gun control

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Gabriel S.
No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the front door or window. Ken --- Original Message - *From:* JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY i agree with that. i think gun

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Gettin on toward fall, does it have snowtires? -Curt Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:13:05 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
criminal will think twice if they KNOW that the intended victim is armed. My $.02, Mike - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]andrew strasfogel To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
: JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY i agree with that. i think gun control is a great contributor to crime. walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Canfield
to the .001 sec, and who drives a rod-bender. Bob Rentfro '77300D 138K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: JabbaHursty To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY brilliant, huh

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread LT Don
Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I gave her the gun! Christopher --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread OK Don
And how often do you ned to defend your family (other than during the OkieQue) ??? OK Don, who keeps the guns un-loaded, but a nice sharp saber by the bed - The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ On 8/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A gun that is locked up

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Have not had any minorities breaking in yet, but then again, Im out in the country and usually only need my weapons to shoot dogs that break into my back yard and try to knock up my husky. OK Don wrote: And how often do you ned to defend your family (other than during the OkieQue) ??? OK

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread OK Don
I thought it was Kaleb defending his cars from us, but you're right, it could have been Luther. He was in martal danger there for awhile! On 8/29/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned with defending his guests. Or was that just Luther trying to

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread JabbaHursty
yes, a real american, that kleb :) At 09:04 PM 8/29/2005, you wrote: Have not had any minorities breaking in yet, but then again, Im out in the country and usually only need my weapons to shoot dogs that break into my back yard and try to knock up my husky. OK Don wrote: And how often do

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread Potter, Tom E
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:03 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY A gun that is locked up and unloaded will do NO good when its needed. People who keep their guns locked up etc probably

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread Christopher McCann
I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I gave her the gun! Christopher --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned with defending his guests. Or was that just Luther trying to defend his

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-29 Thread kweimer
Only cops and criminals carry guns in Canada. Ken - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-29 Thread Christopher McCann
Mike, I'm sorry to hear about the death of your fellow officer and appreciate your real world advice. I was lucky to take an NRA course that had an excellent section given by a lawyer and ex Vietnam army rnager on the legal and psychological/physiological (for the sefl-defender) effects of

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread MClaus8331

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a whole lot of fun. mac

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
he lives in quebec At 12:23 PM 8/28/2005, you wrote: Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a whole lot of fun.

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
The first one was a fluke, when I was about 15 growing up in Montreal, drunken crazy old guy with a shotgun thought that was how you settled noise complaints with parties next door. Second time, I drove into a holdup of a gas station. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, you're in Canada. Why