Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-04 Thread redghost
Libertarians espouse the idea that your actions are fine as long as 
they do not infringe upon the actions of others.  Some crazed crack 
head with a .45 is not behaving in an appropriate manner that supports 
that ideology, therefore must be put down


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 09:55 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:23:39 -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote
 Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring 
away law enforcement.  Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em 
on?


It's the wild west down there, now.  We're seeing a libertarian's 
dream world; no government, just people and guns.




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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-04 Thread LT Don
Quotes page! 

On 9/2/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 **
  
 It's the wild west down there, now. We're seeing a libertarian's dream 
 world; no government, just people and guns.
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-04 Thread David Brodbeck
LT Don wrote:
 Quotes page!
 
 On 9/2/05, *David Brodbeck* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 **
 
 It's the wild west down there, now.  We're seeing a libertarian's
 dream world; no government, just people and guns.

To be fair, I s'pose it's technically an anarchist's dream world.  When
you get to the level of libertarianism that believes that police, fire
departments, and courts should all be privatized, though, there's very
little difference between the two.



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread David Brodbeck
JabbaHursty wrote:
 what we have now is pretty terrible though.  this country is no longer a 
 place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is 
 becoming non-existent.

Oh, I agree with you there.  That situation has nothing to do with the
presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
forces in the housing market.  I suspect a big factor is that we've just
come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as the
only safe investment.



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread JabbaHursty
it has to do as well with the government having given up on the 
concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of 
its citizens.  I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any 
responsibilities.


look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the 
carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.


useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though


At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote:

JabbaHursty wrote:
 what we have now is pretty terrible though.  this country is no longer a
 place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is
 becoming non-existent.

Oh, I agree with you there.  That situation has nothing to do with the
presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
forces in the housing market.  I suspect a big factor is that we've just
come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as the
only safe investment.

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread LT Don
On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
 concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
 its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
 responsibilities.
 
 look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the
 carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.
 
 useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
 
 
 At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote:
 JabbaHursty wrote:
   what we have now is pretty terrible though. this country is no longer 
 a
   place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is
   becoming non-existent.
 
 Oh, I agree with you there. That situation has nothing to do with the
 presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
 forces in the housing market. I suspect a big factor is that we've just
 come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as the
 only safe investment.
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread LT Don
Jabba ...

Naw, never mind.

Don


On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
  concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
  its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
  responsibilities. 
  
  look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the
  carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.
  
  useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
  
  
  At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: 
  JabbaHursty wrote:
what we have now is pretty terrible though. this country is no 
  longer a
place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is
becoming non-existent. 
  
  Oh, I agree with you there. That situation has nothing to do with the
  presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
  forces in the housing market. I suspect a big factor is that we've just 
  
  come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as the
  only safe investment.
  
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away law 
enforcement. Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on?
  

 On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Jabba ...
 
 Naw, never mind.
 
 Don 
 
 
 On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  
  
  On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
   it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
   concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
   its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
   responsibilities. 
   
   look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the
   carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.
   
   useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
   
   
   At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: 
   JabbaHursty wrote:
 what we have now is pretty terrible though. this country is no 
   longer a
 place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing 
   is
 becoming non-existent. 
   
   Oh, I agree with you there. That situation has nothing to do with the
   presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
   forces in the housing market. I suspect a big factor is that we've 
   just 
   come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as 
   the
   only safe investment.
   
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:23:39 -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote
 Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away law 
 enforcement.  Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on?

It's the wild west down there, now.  We're seeing a libertarian's dream world; 
no government, just people and guns.

 


Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-02 Thread redghost
I understand the order of the day is shoot to kill for the Guard.  A 
general cleansing of looters would solve the helo issues as well as 
reduce the drain on relief agencies.


Or, they are not really looters, but Al Queda has hit US shores.  Shoot 
to kill anyway


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 08:23 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away 
law enforcement.  Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on?

 
 

 
On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jabba ...

Naw, never mind.

Don



On 9/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
its citizens.  I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
responsibilities.

look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the
carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.

useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though


At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote:
JabbaHursty wrote:
  what we have now is pretty terrible though.  this country is no 
longer a
  place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing 
is

  becoming non-existent.

Oh, I agree with you there.  That situation has nothing to do with the
presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
forces in the housing market.  I suspect a big factor is that we've 
just

come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as the
only safe investment.

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its fixing to be, nobody seems to get the message that the gun topic is 
over so I guess I will have to filter it then.


Gabriel S. wrote:


I thought this topic was dead?

On 8/31/05, kweimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live
in the Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses
here have yellow signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with
a firearmtake time to read that yellow sign high up on the wall
on the end of the parking lot.  Only one Waffle House in my town
has the old white sign...I don't go into Waffle Houses that have the
yellow sign.  If I can't go in with my Colt .45, I don't go in. 
Same with Pawn Shops that have No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the

front door or window.
Ken
 
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From: JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

 
i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor

to crime.  walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every
man is armed.  think there are a lot of robberies of waffle
houses in north georgia?

i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals. 
you can't watch the news without hearing about another child

mauled by the neighbors pit bull.  i'm yet to hear this story
involving a golden retriever.


At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:


YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another
until THEY control everything.  WE as citizens need to police
ourselves ALOT more and let THEM worry about the important
things a government is supposed to tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in
general was better when you were hung for stealing a horse and
nearly everyone carried a firearm.  Even a stupid criminal
will think twice if they KNOW that the intended victim is armed.
 
My $.02, Mike


- Original Message -
From: andrew strasfogel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.



  
On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to
dress up as gang bangers and get pit bulls.  they
don't care for the animals and they end up just
roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less
because the government has long ago given up caring
about the welfare of its citizens in major metro
area.  just another reason why it's foolish not to be
packing heat.  the kids are just playing gangsta, so
no worries with them, but the dogs are real.


At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:


Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??

On 8/30/05, LT Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Having met you, I find that to be really
surprising.
On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog
with my 
PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it
herself if I 
gave her the gun!

Christopher
--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is
concerned 
with defending his guests. 
Or was that just Luther trying to defend
his 
chastity from a sweet young 
thing this year? 


On 8/29/05, OK Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 And how often do you ned to defend
your family 
(other than during the 
 OkieQue) ??? 
 
 
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Mike Canfield wrote:
   People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was
 better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone
 carried a firearm.

'Course, you got hung if people *thought* you stole a horse.  Whether
you actually did it or not was unimportant, back then.  Such is
vigilantism.  Thanks, but I'd rather stick with what we've got now.



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread JabbaHursty

no, just because there is one on every corner

At 03:48 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
Are Waffle Houses so popular among the stick-em-up set because their 
waffles cost $25.00 each?


On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
me too


At 03:34 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

I thought this topic was dead?

On 8/31/05, kweimer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live in 
the Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses here have 
yellow signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with a 
firearmtake time to read that yellow sign high up on the wall on the 
end of the parking lot.  Only one Waffle House in my town has the old 
white sign...I don't go into Waffle Houses that have the yellow sign.  If 
I can't go in with my Colt .45, I don't go in.  Same with Pawn Shops that 
have No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the front door or window.

Ken

--- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]JabbaHursty
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to 
crime.  walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is 
armed.  think there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?
i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you 
can't watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the 
neighbors pit bull.  i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever.


At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
control everything.  WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more 
and let THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed 
to tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was 
better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone 
carried a firearm.  Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they 
KNOW that the intended victim is armed.


My $.02, Mike
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]andrew strasfogel
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.


On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to dress up as gang 
bangers and get pit bulls.  they don't care for the animals and they end 
up just roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less because the 
government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its 
citizens in major metro area.  just another reason why it's foolish not 
to be packing heat.  the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries 
with them, but the dogs are real.

At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??
On 8/30/05, LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Having met you, I find that to be really surprising.
On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I
gave her the gun!
Christopher
--- LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
 with defending his guests.
 Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
 chastity from a sweet young
 thing this year?

 On 8/29/05, OK Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And how often do you ned to defend your family
 (other than during the
  OkieQue) ???
 
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-09-01 Thread JabbaHursty
what we have now is pretty terrible though.  this country is no longer a 
place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing is 
becoming non-existent.


if you have the money, you can buy your way out of this malaise and just 
watch it on tv.  if you come up short, though, it's a pretty bad situation.


At 09:52 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Mike Canfield wrote:
   People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was
 better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone
 carried a firearm.

'Course, you got hung if people *thought* you stole a horse.  Whether
you actually did it or not was unimportant, back then.  Such is
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??

On 8/30/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. 
 
 On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
  PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I 
  gave her the gun!
  
  Christopher
  
  --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
   with defending his guests. 
   Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
   chastity from a sweet young
   thing this year?
  
   On 8/29/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
And how often do you ned to defend your family
   (other than during the
OkieQue) ???
   
   
   
   
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.


 On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 the dog thing is out of control. all the kids like to dress up as gang 
 bangers and get pit bulls. they don't care for the animals and they end up 
 just roaming the area. animal control couldn't care less because the 
 government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens in 
 major metro area. just another reason why it's foolish not to be packing 
 heat. the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with them, but the 
 dogs are real. 
 
 At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
 
 Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??
 
 On 8/30/05, *LT Don* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. 
 
 On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
  I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
 PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I 
 gave her the gun!
 
 Christopher
 
 --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned 
  with defending his guests. 
  Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
  chastity from a sweet young
  thing this year?
 
  On 8/29/05, OK Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
   And how often do you ned to defend your family
  (other than during the
   OkieQue) ???
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Canfield
YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY control 
everything.  WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more and let THEM 
worry about the important things a government is supposed to tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was better 
when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone carried a firearm.  
Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW that the intended victim 
is armed.

My $.02, Mike
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  From: andrew strasfogel 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


  They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.


   
  On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to dress up as gang 
bangers and get pit bulls.  they don't care for the animals and they end up 
just roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less because the 
government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens in 
major metro area.  just another reason why it's foolish not to be packing heat. 
 the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with them, but the dogs are 
real. 


At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

  Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??

  On 8/30/05, LT Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. 


On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

  I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my

  PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I 

  gave her the gun!


  Christopher


  --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned 

   with defending his guests. 

   Or was that just Luther trying to defend his

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And how often do you ned to defend your family

   (other than during the

OkieQue) ???

   

   

   

   

   

  

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to 
crime.  walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is 
armed.  think there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?


i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you can't 
watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
pit bull.  i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever.



At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
control everything.  WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more and 
let THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed to tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was 
better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone 
carried a firearm.  Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW 
that the intended victim is armed.


My $.02, Mike
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]andrew strasfogel
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.



On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to dress up as gang 
bangers and get pit bulls.  they don't care for the animals and they end 
up just roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less because the 
government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens 
in major metro area.  just another reason why it's foolish not to be 
packing heat.  the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with them, 
but the dogs are real.



At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??

On 8/30/05, LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having met you, I find that to be really surprising.
On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I
gave her the gun!
Christopher
--- LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
 with defending his guests.
 Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
 chastity from a sweet young
 thing this year?

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  And how often do you ned to defend your family
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Mitch Haley
JabbaHursty wrote:
 
 i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you can't 
 watch the
 news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit bull.  
 i'm yet to
 hear this story involving a golden retriever.
 

I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors for 
example.
You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you see in
the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the Staffordshires (pits)
get more attention in the media.



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably
mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them
because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.

Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect.
Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a
muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing
is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards,
Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.

It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created
by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any
can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.

How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 JabbaHursty wrote:
 
  i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you can't 
  watch the
  news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit bull.  
  i'm yet to
  hear this story involving a golden retriever.
 
 
 I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors for 
 example.
 You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you see in
 the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the Staffordshires 
 (pits)
 get more attention in the media.



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
By that faulty logic, Canada, Japan and England should be cesspools of crime.

The only crime that gets the news in Toronto is all the handgun
homicides, at least 1/2 of which occur due to guns smuggled in from
the US.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to crime. 
 walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is armed.  think
 there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly.  the 
other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers 
hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride.  so i went for a ride 
with them.  nice dogs


also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond 
recognition.  sure, any dog can bite.  if your kid gets bitten by a golden 
retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your kid, 
it's a whole different thing


At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably
mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them
because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.

Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect.
Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a
muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing
is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards,
Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.

It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created
by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any
can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.

How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 JabbaHursty wrote:
 
  i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you 
can't watch the
  news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit 
bull.  i'm yet to

  hear this story involving a golden retriever.
 

 I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors 
for example.
 You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you 
see in
 the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the 
Staffordshires (pits)

 get more attention in the media.

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty
in areas where there is no crime to begin with, there is no reason for a 
handgun.  if i lived in japan, i wouldn't have any feeling of need to pack 
a .45.


The USA is a different deal.  the fact is that in many areas of this 
country, violent crime is an everyday thing.



At 01:42 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

By that faulty logic, Canada, Japan and England should be cesspools of crime.

The only crime that gets the news in Toronto is all the handgun
homicides, at least 1/2 of which occur due to guns smuggled in from
the US.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to crime.
 walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is armed.  think
 there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and 
mehitibel - no upper case letters. So much more readable...

On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly. the
 other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers
 hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride. so i went for a ride
 with them. nice dogs
 
 also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond
 recognition. sure, any dog can bite. if your kid gets bitten by a golden
 retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your kid,
 it's a whole different thing
 
 At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
 Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably
 mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them
 because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.
 
 Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect.
 Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a
 muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing
 is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards,
 Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.
 
 It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created
 by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any
 can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.
 
 How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?
 
 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby
 
 On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   JabbaHursty wrote:
   
i don't like the pit bulls though. they are dangerous animals. you
  can't watch the
news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit
  bull. i'm yet to
hear this story involving a golden retriever.
   
  
   I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors
  for example.
   You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you
  see in
   the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the
  Staffordshires (pits)
   get more attention in the media.
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Of course, the content is another matter entirely!

On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and 
 mehitibel - no upper case letters. So much more readable...
 
 On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  
  i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly. 
  the
  other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers 
  hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride. so i went for a 
  ride
  with them. nice dogs
  
  also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond
  recognition. sure, any dog can bite. if your kid gets bitten by a golden 
  
  retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your 
  kid,
  it's a whole different thing
  
  At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
  Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably 
  mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them
  because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.
  
  Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect. 
  Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a
  muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing
  is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards, 
  Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.
  
  It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created
  by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any 
  can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.
  
  How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?
  
  Tim
  1982 300TD Moby
  
  On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JabbaHursty wrote:

 i don't like the pit bulls though. they are dangerous animals. you
   can't watch the 
 news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
  pit
   bull. i'm yet to
 hear this story involving a golden retriever.

   
I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than 
  Labradors 
   for example.
You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what 
  you
   see in
the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the
   Staffordshires (pits) 
get more attention in the media.
  
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty

brilliant, huh?

At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Of course, the content is another matter entirely!

On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and 
mehitibel - no upper case letters.  So much more readable...


On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly.  the
other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers
hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride.  so i went for a ride
with them.  nice dogs

also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond
recognition.  sure, any dog can bite.  if your kid gets bitten by a golden
retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your kid,
it's a whole different thing

At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably
mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them
because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.

Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect.
Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a
muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing
is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards,
Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.

It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created
by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any
can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.

How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  JabbaHursty wrote:
  
   i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you
 can't watch the
   news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit
 bull.  i'm yet to
   hear this story involving a golden retriever.
  
 
  I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors
 for example.
  You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you
 see in
  the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the
 Staffordshires (pits)
  get more attention in the media.

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
So...it seems that the worst possible thing on the planet would be a pistol 
packin' Golden Retriever who asks questions about Mobil 1, who inquires about 
ALDA adjustments, who has input on any computer/server/list splitting 
discussions, who doesn't know his car's 0-60 time down to the .001 sec, and who 
drives a rod-bender.

Bob Rentfro
'77300D 138K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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  From: JabbaHursty 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


  brilliant, huh?

  At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Of course, the content is another matter entirely!

On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy 
and mehitibel - no upper case letters.  So much more readable... 


  On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly.  
the

other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers 

hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride.  so i went for a 
ride

with them.  nice dogs


also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond

recognition.  sure, any dog can bite.  if your kid gets bitten by a 
golden 

retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your 
kid,

it's a whole different thing


At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably 

mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them

because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.



Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect. 

Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a

muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing

is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards, 

Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.



It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created

by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any 

can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.



How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?



Tim

1982 300TD Moby



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  JabbaHursty wrote:

  

   i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  
you 

 can't watch the 

   news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
pit

 bull.  i'm yet to

   hear this story involving a golden retriever.

  

 

  I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than 
Labradors 

 for example.

  You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what 
you

 see in

  the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the 

 Staffordshires (pits) 

  get more attention in the media.



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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Potter, Tom E
I think you got it covered.
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:07 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


So...it seems that the worst possible thing on the planet would be a pistol 
packin' Golden Retriever who asks questions about Mobil 1, who inquires about 
ALDA adjustments, who has input on any computer/server/list splitting 
discussions, who doesn't know his car's 0-60 time down to the .001 sec, and who 
drives a rod-bender.
 
Bob Rentfro
'77300D 138K
Litchfield Park, AZ

- Original Message - 
From: JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: Mercedes mailing list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

brilliant, huh?

At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:


Of course, the content is another matter entirely!

On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy and 
mehitibel - no upper case letters.  So much more readable... 



On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote: 



i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly.  the


other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers 


hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride.  so i went for a ride


with them.  nice dogs



also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond


recognition.  sure, any dog can bite.  if your kid gets bitten by a golden 


retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your kid,


it's a whole different thing



At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:


Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably 


mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them


because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.





Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect. 


Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a


muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing


is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards, 


Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.





It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created


by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any 


can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.





How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?





Tim


1982 300TD Moby





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  JabbaHursty wrote:


  


   i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you 


 can't watch the 


   news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit


 bull.  i'm yet to


   hear this story involving a golden retriever.


  


 


  I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors 


 for example.


  You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you


 see in


  the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the 


 Staffordshires (pits) 


  get more attention in the media.





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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty

a perfect guy for Dr Easley

At 03:07 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
So...it seems that the worst possible thing on the planet would be a 
pistol packin' Golden Retriever who asks questions about Mobil 1, who 
inquires about ALDA adjustments, who has input on any computer/server/list 
splitting discussions, who doesn't know his car's 0-60 time down to the 
.001 sec, and who drives a rod-bender.


Bob Rentfro
'77300D 138K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]JabbaHursty
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

brilliant, huh?

At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Of course, the content is another matter entirely!

On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy 
and mehitibel - no upper case letters.  So much more readable...

On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but friendly.  the
other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden retrievers
hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride.  so i went for a ride
with them.  nice dogs
also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled beyond
recognition.  sure, any dog can bite.  if your kid gets bitten by a golden
retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your kid,
it's a whole different thing
At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably
mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them
because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.

Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect.
Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a
muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing
is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German Sheppards,
Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.

It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created
by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any
can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.

How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  JabbaHursty wrote:
  
   i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you
 can't watch the
   news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit
 bull.  i'm yet to
   hear this story involving a golden retriever.
  
 
  I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than Labradors
 for example.
  You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking what you
 see in
  the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the
 Staffordshires (pits)
  get more attention in the media.

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread kweimer
I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live in the 
Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses here have yellow 
signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with a firearmtake time to 
read that yellow sign high up on the wall on the end of the parking lot.  Only 
one Waffle House in my town has the old white sign...I don't go into Waffle 
Houses that have the yellow sign.  If I can't go in with my Colt .45, I don't 
go in.  Same with Pawn Shops that have No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the 
front door or window.
Ken

--- Original Message - 
  From: JabbaHursty 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


  i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to crime.  
walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is armed.  think 
there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?

  i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you can't 
watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors pit 
bull.  i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever.


  At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
control everything.  WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more and let 
THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed to tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was 
better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone carried a 
firearm.  Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW that the 
intended victim is armed.
 
My $.02, Mike

  - Original Message - 

  From: andrew strasfogel 

  To: Mercedes mailing list 

  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM

  Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


  They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.





  On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to dress up as gang 
bangers and get pit bulls.  they don't care for the animals and they end up 
just roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less because the 
government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens in 
major metro area.  just another reason why it's foolish not to be packing heat. 
 the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with them, but the dogs are 
real. 



At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

  Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??


  On 8/30/05, LT Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. 

On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
  I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my 
  PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I 
  gave her the gun!

  Christopher

  --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned 
   with defending his guests. 
   Or was that just Luther trying to defend his 
   chastity from a sweet young 
   thing this year? 
   
   On 8/29/05, OK Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

And how often do you ned to defend your family 
   (other than during the 
OkieQue) ??? 




   
   
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty

spoken like a true old school Southerner!

At 03:21 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live in the 
Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses here have 
yellow signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with a 
firearmtake time to read that yellow sign high up on the wall on the 
end of the parking lot.  Only one Waffle House in my town has the old 
white sign...I don't go into Waffle Houses that have the yellow sign.  If 
I can't go in with my Colt .45, I don't go in.  Same with Pawn Shops that 
have No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the front door or window.

Ken

--- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]JabbaHursty
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to 
crime.  walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is 
armed.  think there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?


i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you can't 
watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
pit bull.  i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever.



At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
control everything.  WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more 
and let THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed to 
tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was 
better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone 
carried a firearm.  Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW 
that the intended victim is armed.


My $.02, Mike
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]andrew strasfogel
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.



On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to dress up as gang 
bangers and get pit bulls.  they don't care for the animals and they end 
up just roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less because the 
government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens 
in major metro area.  just another reason why it's foolish not to be 
packing heat.  the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with 
them, but the dogs are real.


At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??
On 8/30/05, LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having met you, I find that to be really surprising.
On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I
gave her the gun!
Christopher
--- LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
 with defending his guests.
 Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
 chastity from a sweet young
 thing this year?

 On 8/29/05, OK Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And how often do you ned to defend your family
 (other than during the
  OkieQue) ???
 
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Gabriel S.
I thought this topic was dead?

On 8/31/05, kweimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live in the 
 Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses here have yellow 
 signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with a firearmtake time to 
 read that yellow sign high up on the wall on the end of the parking lot. 
 Only one Waffle House in my town has the old white sign...I don't go into 
 Waffle Houses that have the yellow sign. If I can't go in with my Colt .45, 
 I don't go in. Same with Pawn Shops that have No Loaded Firearms Permitted 
 on the front door or window.
 Ken
  --- Original Message - 
 
 *From:* JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 *To:* Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
 
 i agree with that. i think gun control is a great contributor to crime. 
 walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is armed. think 
 there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?
 
 i don't like the pit bulls though. they are dangerous animals. you can't 
 watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
 pit bull. i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever.
 
 
 At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
 
 YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
 control everything. WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more and 
 let THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed to tend 
 to.
 People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was better 
 when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone carried a 
 firearm. Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW that the 
 intended victim is armed.
 
 My $.02, Mike
  - Original Message - 
 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
 
 They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.
 
 
 
 On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  the dog thing is out of control. all the kids like to dress up as gang 
 bangers and get pit bulls. they don't care for the animals and they end up 
 just roaming the area. animal control couldn't care less because the 
 government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens in 
 major metro area. just another reason why it's foolish not to be packing 
 heat. the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with them, but the 
 dogs are real. 
 
 
 At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
 
 Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??
 
 On 8/30/05, LT Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having met you, I find 
 that to be really surprising. 
 On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I was 
 tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my PPK/S. I think Kate would have 
 done it herself if I gave her the gun!
 Christopher
 --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned  with defending his 
 guests.  Or was that just Luther trying to defend his  chastity from a 
 sweet young  thing this year?   On 8/29/05, OK Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote: And how often do you ned to defend your family  (other 
 than during the   OkieQue) ???--  1977 240D  
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread Curt Raymond

Gettin on toward fall, does it have snowtires?

-Curt

Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:13:05 -0500
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I think you got it covered.
 

Thomas E. Potter
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To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


So...it seems that the worst possible thing on the planet would be a 
pistol packin' Golden Retriever who asks questions about Mobil 1, who 
inquires about ALDA adjustments, who has input on any computer/server/list 
splitting discussions, who doesn't know his car's 0-60 time down to the 
.001 sec, and who drives a rod-bender.
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread JabbaHursty

me too

At 03:34 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

I thought this topic was dead?

On 8/31/05, kweimer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live in the 
Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses here have 
yellow signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with a 
firearmtake time to read that yellow sign high up on the wall on the 
end of the parking lot.  Only one Waffle House in my town has the old 
white sign...I don't go into Waffle Houses that have the yellow sign.  If 
I can't go in with my Colt .45, I don't go in.  Same with Pawn Shops that 
have No Loaded Firearms Permitted on the front door or window.

Ken

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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]JabbaHursty
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


i agree with that.  i think gun control is a great contributor to 
crime.  walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is 
armed.  think there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia?


i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals.  you can't 
watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
pit bull.  i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever.



At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
control everything.  WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more 
and let THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed to 
tend to.
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was 
better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone 
carried a firearm.  Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW 
that the intended victim is armed.


My $.02, Mike
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]andrew strasfogel
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 PM
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They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.



On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the dog thing is out of control.  all the kids like to dress up as gang 
bangers and get pit bulls.  they don't care for the animals and they end 
up just roaming the area.  animal control couldn't care less because the 
government has long ago given up caring about the welfare of its citizens 
in major metro area.  just another reason why it's foolish not to be 
packing heat.  the kids are just playing gangsta, so no worries with 
them, but the dogs are real.


At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??
On 8/30/05, LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having met you, I find that to be really surprising.
On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I
gave her the gun!
Christopher
--- LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
 with defending his guests.
 Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
 chastity from a sweet young
 thing this year?

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Are Waffle Houses so popular among the stick-em-up set because their waffles 
cost $25.00 each?

On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 me too 
 
 At 03:34 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
 
 I thought this topic was dead?
 
 On 8/31/05, *kweimer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  I don't know about Waffle Houses in North Georgia, but where I live in 
 the Atlanta metro area...Conyers in particularWaffle Houses here have 
 yellow signs that prohibit entering the Waffle House with a firearmtake 
 time to read that yellow sign high up on the wall on the end of the parking 
 lot. Only one Waffle House in my town has the old white sign...I don't go 
 into Waffle Houses that have the yellow sign. If I can't go in with my Colt 
 .45, I don't go in. Same with Pawn Shops that have No Loaded Firearms 
 Permitted on the front door or window. 
 Ken
  
 --- Original Message - 
  From: JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
 
  
 i agree with that. i think gun control is a great contributor to crime. 
 walk into any waffle house in North Georgia and every man is armed. think 
 there are a lot of robberies of waffle houses in north georgia? 
 
 i don't like the pit bulls though. they are dangerous animals. you can't 
 watch the news without hearing about another child mauled by the neighbors 
 pit bull. i'm yet to hear this story involving a golden retriever. 
 
 
 At 12:23 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
 
 YEPTHEY oughta ban another thing and another and another until THEY 
 control everything. WE as citizens need to police ourselves ALOT more and 
 let THEM worry about the important things a government is supposed to tend 
 to. 
  People had alot more respect for each other and life in general was 
 better when you were hung for stealing a horse and nearly everyone carried a 
 firearm. Even a stupid criminal will think twice if they KNOW that the 
 intended victim is armed. 
  
 My $.02, Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] To: 
 Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 
 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
 They oughta ban pit bulls like they just did in Toronna.
 
 
  On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the dog thing is out of 
 control. all the kids like to dress up as gang bangers and get pit bulls. 
 they don't care for the animals and they end up just roaming the area. 
 animal control couldn't care less because the government has long ago given 
 up caring about the welfare of its citizens in major metro area. just 
 another reason why it's foolish not to be packing heat. the kids are just 
 playing gangsta, so no worries with them, but the dogs are real. 
 
 At 11:54 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote: 
 
 Shooting perps is one thing, but shooting dogs??
 On 8/30/05, LT Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having met you, I find 
 that to be really surprising. On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] 
  wrote: I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my PPK/S. I think 
 Kate would have done it herself if I gave her the gun! Christopher --- LT 
 Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is 
 concerned  with defending his guests.  Or was that just Luther trying to 
 defend his  chastity from a sweet young  thing this year?   On 
 8/29/05, OK Don  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how often do you 
 ned to defend your family  (other than during the   OkieQue) ???
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2005-08-31 Thread Mike Canfield
NopeThe worst would be one of the above who actually DREAMS of driving a 
rodbender...You can't really drive them can ya??..Mike
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  From: Bob Rentfro 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


  So...it seems that the worst possible thing on the planet would be a pistol 
packin' Golden Retriever who asks questions about Mobil 1, who inquires about 
ALDA adjustments, who has input on any computer/server/list splitting 
discussions, who doesn't know his car's 0-60 time down to the .001 sec, and who 
drives a rod-bender.

  Bob Rentfro
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From: JabbaHursty 
To: Mercedes mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


brilliant, huh?

At 01:57 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

  Of course, the content is another matter entirely!

  On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I like the fact that Hursty writes in the style of Don Marquis' archy 
and mehitibel - no upper case letters.  So much more readable... 


On 8/31/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

  i've never met a golden retriever that has been anything but 
friendly.  the

  other day, i was cleaning my car out and my neighbors golden 
retrievers 

  hopped in the back thinking we were going for a ride.  so i went for 
a ride

  with them.  nice dogs


  also, there is a difference between being bitten and being mauled 
beyond

  recognition.  sure, any dog can bite.  if your kid gets bitten by a 
golden 

  retriever, it's not a good thing. but when i pit bull goes after your 
kid,

  it's a whole different thing


  At 01:40 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:

  Goldens I think have the highest bite rate of any breed. Probably 

  mainly because they're so common, but you don't hear about them

  because they're not labelled an aggressive breed.

  

  Just yesterday the new ban on Pit Bulls in Toronto went into effect. 

  Existing Pit Bulls (not even a real breed but a mix) require a

  muzzle, leash, and fixing. No buying or breeding from now on. Thing

  is, it's wishy washy and owners of other breeds like German 
Sheppards, 

  Dobermans, Rottweillers and the like are very nervous now.

  

  It's a bogus law and not based on reality, but the perception created

  by the media. Any dog can be made aggressive by upbringing, and any 

  can be docile the same way. Punish the owners instead.

  

  How long before my 105 lb Chesapeake Bay Retreiver is banned?

  

  Tim

  1982 300TD Moby

  

  On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JabbaHursty wrote:



 i don't like the pit bulls though.  they are dangerous animals. 
 you 

   can't watch the 

 news without hearing about another child mauled by the 
neighbors pit

   bull.  i'm yet to

 hear this story involving a golden retriever.



   

I've heard it with Goldens, they are often less stable than 
Labradors 

   for example.

You don't want to base your perception of reality on thinking 
what you

   see in

the news is what happens more often, it's largely that the 

   Staffordshires (pits) 

get more attention in the media.

  

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2005-08-31 Thread LT Don
Having met you, I find that to be really surprising. 

On 8/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
 PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I
 gave her the gun!
 
 Christopher
 
 --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
  with defending his guests.
  Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
  chastity from a sweet young
  thing this year?
 
  On 8/29/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   And how often do you ned to defend your family
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   OkieQue) ???
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread OK Don
And how often do you ned to defend your family (other than during the
OkieQue) ???


OK Don, who keeps the guns un-loaded, but a nice sharp saber by the bed -
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
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 A gun that is locked up and unloaded will do NO good when its needed.
 People who keep their guns locked up etc probably should not be owning
 guns in the first place if they are worried about their kids.  When you
 are a serious gun owner the first thing you should do is start out very
 early educating your kids about guns, and not touching them.  Sort of
 takes the mystery out of it and they dont go messing with them when you
 are not at home.  I have plenty of weapons all loaded up and ready to go
 around the house and the kids know not to mess with them.  They have no
 interest in messing with them. Now on the other hand, when we get to the
 stage of them having friends over, a different approach will have to be
 taken as most other kids will not have this sort of training.
 

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2005-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Have not had any minorities breaking in yet, but then again, Im out in 
the country and usually only need my weapons to shoot dogs that break 
into my back yard and try to knock up my husky.


OK Don wrote:


And how often do you ned to defend your family (other than during the
OkieQue) ???


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2005-08-30 Thread OK Don
I thought it was Kaleb defending his cars from us, but you're right,
it could have been Luther. He was in martal danger there for awhile!

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 Or was that just Luther trying to defend his chastity from a sweet young
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread JabbaHursty

yes, a real american, that kleb :)


At 09:04 PM 8/29/2005, you wrote:

Have not had any minorities breaking in yet, but then again, Im out in
the country and usually only need my weapons to shoot dogs that break
into my back yard and try to knock up my husky.

OK Don wrote:

 And how often do you ned to defend your family (other than during the
 OkieQue) ???


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2005-08-30 Thread Potter, Tom E
I agree with you 100 percent. I was raised in a house with loaded guns
available all the time, and we never played with them. We were taught
what guns could do. We watched livestock and game die from a gunshot, so
the danger was impressed on us. Nowadays, folks don't want to
traumatize their kids, so the kids never really KNOW the dangers of
discharging a firearm.

Also, Mr. Policeman and his ilk think that because they took a one-hour
course in firearm training at the academy, they should be the only ones
allowed to carry weapons because they KNOW how to handle them.

I think the weapons should be taken away from the cops for a while so
they could experience being disarmed while the criminals preyed on them.
I think they would change their tune.

Just my 2 cents.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY


A gun that is locked up and unloaded will do NO good when its needed. 
People who keep their guns locked up etc probably should not be owning 
guns in the first place if they are worried about their kids.  When you 
are a serious gun owner the first thing you should do is start out very 
early educating your kids about guns, and not touching them.  Sort of 
takes the mystery out of it and they dont go messing with them when you 
are not at home.  I have plenty of weapons all loaded up and ready to go

around the house and the kids know not to mess with them.  They have no 
interest in messing with them. Now on the other hand, when we get to the

stage of them having friends over, a different approach will have to be 
taken as most other kids will not have this sort of training.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   HI all
 for the record I am a phila policeman
  the  story attached is my friend and ex partner  policeman Terrence 
 Flomo he was killed Friday morning by 2 jit bags
  
  the reality of firearm ownership is
 A. most pl with guns don't understand just owning one does not make
you 
 any safer
  because they MUST be locked away form kids and this  means they might

 not be accessible when they are needed in a home emergency
  
 B criminals who steal guns during a burglary can use them against the 
 lawful owner... or in this case the police .
  C bullets don't stop at a intended target... they can go on for a 
 loong distance AFTER striking the intended target
  and
 D shooting a (person criminal or not)  aint Hollywood easy  they get 
 up... run around ... scream ... now they might have deserved it  but
it 
 aint easy and then YOU must justify your actions ... to police, the 
 county prosecutor,  ect ect ... ( this in NO way is to say guns should

 not be used/owned if there is a real threat it nos safety)
  
  
  I am not anti gun ( I have owned one  sense the slaveships) and will 
 continue to do so
  but to EVERYONE who owns firearms
 please realize
  these are machines
  they don't know the difference between a criminal and a kid( god
forbid)
 this one of the greatest responsibilities that any adult can have
  so please take the approved firearm safety course offered by the
N.R.A.
  keep them
  LOCKED
  ...UNLOADED
  and KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER
  and for god sakes please keep them locked up tight in your house
  its a bitch to go to a mans funeral who should have never died
  
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-30 Thread Christopher McCann
I was tempted to shoot the neighbors dog with my
PPK/S. I think Kate would have done it herself if I
gave her the gun!

Christopher

--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No no, Don -- during the OkieQ Kaleb is concerned
 with defending his guests. 
 Or was that just Luther trying to defend his
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 thing this year? 
 
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2005-08-29 Thread kweimer

Only cops and criminals carry guns in Canada.
Ken

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Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?

Tim
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 Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it 
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whole lot of fun.

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2005-08-29 Thread Christopher McCann
Mike,

I'm sorry to hear about the death of your fellow
officer and appreciate your real world advice. I was
lucky to take an NRA course that had an excellent
section given by a lawyer and ex Vietnam army rnager
on the legal and psychological/physiological (for the
sefl-defender) effects of shooting. 

If you shoot in SD, be prepared to cry uncontrollably,
shit your pants, wet yourself, temporarily lose your
hearing and in some extrmeme cases, temporary
blindness due to stress, vomit, etc. All that while
you must call 911 and get and ambulandce ASAP for the
SOB that just tried to kill you and or did kill one of
your kids. Be prepeared to be arrested, regardless if
you were correct. Be prepared for blood EVERYWHERE and
if the guy has AIDS and you get cut...well...

It was an eye opener. It is not Hollywood. I hope to
GOd that I never have to shoot anybody, but as you
said:

its a bitch to go to a mans funeral who should have
never died

I would happily take all that suffering on if I had to
defend my 5 little girls and my wife.

As for keeping guns locked and unloaded at all times,
even the NRA teaches that an SD gun is being used even
when not being held/pointed. My carry gun is almost
always on me. My other loaded weapon is locked and up
high. My wife can get it and that's it. And she has
needed to once, till the police, helicopter and dogs
arrived.

Pax,

Christopher

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 HI all 
 for the record I am a phila policeman 
  the  story attached is my friend and ex partner 
 policeman  Terrence Flomo 
 he was killed Friday morning by 2 jit bags
  
  the reality of firearm ownership is
 A. most pl with guns don't understand just owning
 one does not make  you any 
 safer 
  because they MUST be locked away form kids and this
  means  they might not 
 be accessible when they are needed in a home
 emergency 
  
 B criminals who steal guns during a burglary can use
 them against the  lawful 
 owner... or in this case the police .
  C bullets don't stop at a intended target... they
 can go on for a  loong 
 distance AFTER striking the intended target
  and 
 D shooting a (person criminal or not)  aint
 Hollywood easy  they  get up... 
 run around ... scream ... now they might have
 deserved it  but it  aint easy 
 and then YOU must justify your actions ... to
 police, the county  prosecutor,  
 ect ect ... ( this in NO way is to say guns should
 not be  used/owned if there 
 is a real threat it nos safety)
  
  
  I am not anti gun ( I have owned one  sense the
 slaveships) and  will 
 continue to do so 
  but to EVERYONE who owns firearms 
 please realize 
  these are machines 
  they don't know the difference between a criminal
 and a kid( god  forbid) 
 this one of the greatest responsibilities that any
 adult can have
  so please take the approved firearm safety course
 offered  by the N.R.A.
  keep them
  LOCKED
  ...UNLOADED
  and KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER 
  and for god sakes please keep them locked up tight
 in your house 
  its a bitch to go to a mans funeral who should have
 never died
  
  mike collins
  phila pa 
  
  
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 Posted Posted NOBRAugust 26, 2005 04:09  August
 26, 2005 
 04:09  AM 
 We've lost another one of our own. An officer was 
 shot and killed in the 
 23rd District last night (2:18am) after being shot 
 in the chest by two thugs. 
 Details are still sketchy, but the last I heard  was
 that the 9th had a suspect 
 run inside a property on 20th Street. SWAT  was
 enroute. 
 
 Pardon me for seeming callous, but I hope the
 suspect  (if he is the doer) is 
 brought out in a body bag.  
 
 
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 Posted Posted NOBRAugust 26, 2005 06:31  August
 26, 2005 
 06:31  AM 
 Details are still sketchy, but it appears an 
 off-duty NFU officer was shot 
 multiple times at 20th and Columbia in North 
 Philly, in an unmarked DEA 
 vehicle. Early morning news reports states that 
 many people were taken to homicide 
 and a male who barracaded himself in a  house on the
 800 block 20th st was 
 removed by SWAT and was at homicide  being
 interviewed. P/C Johnson, D/C Ross and 
 Mayor Street were on location  at Temple hospital
 with the family. I will not 
 post the name because I am  not sure of the
 spelling, but I can say it was 
 reported that the fallen  officer was a 9 year
 veteran that leaves behind a wife 
 and 

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread MClaus8331
 



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a
 whole lot of fun.
  
  mac



Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

he lives in quebec


At 12:23 PM 8/28/2005, you wrote:

Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, 
it isn't a

 whole lot of fun.

  mac

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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
The first one was a fluke, when I was about 15 growing up in Montreal,
drunken crazy old guy with a shotgun thought that was how you settled noise
complaints with parties next door.

Second time, I drove into a holdup of a gas station.

Mac

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 Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here?
 
 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby
 
 On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a
 whole lot of fun.
 
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