Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. I'm still trying to decide what constitutes a 'big garage'. Enlarging the attached garage at the time of home construction is cheaper than building a separate structure, but how big is big enough? If the house is 32' wide and you put the garage on the end, should the garage be 32x24, 32x28, 32x32? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. There's a slight temptation for me, because I can build a 'garden shed' up to 200 sq feet without inspections or permits. (but the county would probably come down on me if they figured out I was living in it) I think I first saw an article on minimal housing size in Homepower magazine. To get down around 200 feet, you need zero floorspace sleeping area (overhead loft) and the cooking/eating/living space has to be the same place instead of three separate places. I imagine it also requires living alone or with one other person that you sleep with. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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A garage can never be too big! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. I'm still trying to decide what constitutes a 'big garage'. Enlarging the attached garage at the time of home construction is cheaper than building a separate structure, but how big is big enough? If the house is 32' wide and you put the garage on the end, should the garage be 32x24, 32x28, 32x32? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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60 x 150 might last you for a few years. I built a hillside garage that was 28 x 32 inside. I figured I could get up to 8 Diesels in it snugly. In reality, I could get in 4 diesels, and a 70s caddy, along with welder, radial arm saw, lawnmowers etc. THe N side was 6' into the hillside, and on the south I built a greenhouse for drying lumber. It stayed above freezing all winter. Generally it was about 45ºF in the worst of the winter. (below 0) THAT was NICE! 8 concrete walls N and E. E side was also in the bank, 6 to 3 or 4 feet. No room for a tractor though. I built the trusses out of red oak I cut. Siding was roughsawn cottonwood. dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. I'm still trying to decide what constitutes a 'big garage'. Enlarging the attached garage at the time of home construction is cheaper than building a separate structure, but how big is big enough? If the house is 32' wide and you put the garage on the end, should the garage be 32x24, 32x28, 32x32? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I have a friend who used to live in 20' shipping containers at various places around the world where there are oilfields. Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. There's a slight temptation for me, because I can build a 'garden shed' up to 200 sq feet without inspections or permits. (but the county would probably come down on me if they figured out I was living in it) I think I first saw an article on minimal housing size in Homepower magazine. To get down around 200 feet, you need zero floorspace sleeping area (overhead loft) and the cooking/eating/living space has to be the same place instead of three separate places. I imagine it also requires living alone or with one other person that you sleep with. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Just remembered that last year I read what I remember to be called 12x12 although Amazon and Google both say I'm crazy. It starts out as king of a cool book about a guy living off the grid in a very small cabin. It very rapidly gets very whiny which was too bad. There is some good small house stuff in it but you really need to wade through post modern angst to get there... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. There's a slight temptation for me, because I can build a 'garden shed' up to 200 sq feet without inspections or permits. (but the county would probably come down on me if they figured out I was living in it) I think I first saw an article on minimal housing size in Homepower magazine. To get down around 200 feet, you need zero floorspace sleeping area (overhead loft) and the cooking/eating/living space has to be the same place instead of three separate places. I imagine it also requires living alone or with one other person that you sleep with. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Just remembered that last year I read what I remember to be called 12x12 although Amazon and Google both say I'm crazy. It starts out as king of a cool book about a guy living off the grid in a very small cabin. It very rapidly gets very whiny which was too bad. There is some good small house stuff in it but you really need to wade through post modern angst to get there... How big was Proenneke's cabin on PBS? My dad liked that show so much I bought him the book. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proenneke ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Just remembered that last year I read what I remember to be called 12x12 although Amazon and Google both say I'm crazy. It starts out as king of a cool book about a guy living off the grid in a very small cabin. It very rapidly gets very whiny which was too bad. There is some good small house stuff in it but you really need to wade through post modern angst to get there... How big was Proenneke's cabin on PBS? My dad liked that show so much I bought him the book. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proenneke I believe I met Dick Proenneke in the year he returned to the lower 48 before going back up. I remember a conversation with my Mom because a classmate of hers had been in Fairbanks for several decades at that time. I think it was meeting Dick at Primrose that instigated that conversation. I know my dad sent me to the mill at Primrose with a truck. I am pretty sure that was the time that Dick talked about returning to Primrose for the winter in his book. I am pretty sure he was working at the mill at the time and that is what prompted the conversation with my Mom about Alaska. It is an interesting book. www.aloneinthewilderness.com/SWMBO came dragging it home from the welfare bookstore about a year ago. I looked at the cover, and saw the name Proenneke, and thought it was a SE Awa name. So I looked at the cover and sho'nuff, he was Dick Proenneke from Primrose. Then I read the book, and started to recall the late fall of 68 or 69 when I was sent to Primrose with the truck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R On 12/22/14 2:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: We had ours last night. A whole lot of cleaning went on, including a (for me, rare) dump run. SWMBA wanted all the cars away from the front of the house in order to maximize guest parking. (About 30 guests, I think.) It was a fairly warm day, mid-40's and sunny, and for a change the semi- comatose cars cooperated. The 560 SEL actually _started_, so I got it backed out of the way. The Chicken Wagon started readily, of course, and with its bad B2 (?) was able to creep forward enough that I could get it into reverse and park it out of the way too. The 'heap, of course, cooperated nicely, and I ran it out to the end of the range, to mark beyond where not to go. I ran an extension cord out to power the in-car Christmas lights, and hooked up a battery charger so as to gain the parking lights as well. Very festive! It was eerie, having a completely empty parking pad. I even swept it, and poured fertilizer on all the oil spots. Easy to put six cars on concrete, and plenty of room for many more on the gravel. I don't want to leave the cars where they are, they need to be closer for tool access and electricity, and I dread SWMBA's reaction when I put them back! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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What's the advantage of a single slope roof? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Its easier. Disadvantage is that on too wide a building you can't get enough strength to put up with significant snow load without lots of extra structure.The other disadvantage is you get a short side or a very tall side... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What's the advantage of a single slope roof? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R On 12/23/14 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Have at it ROFLMAO On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R On 12/23/14 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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The primary disadvantage is appearance. I suggest that most gabled roofs look better. RB On 23/12/2014 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Its easier. Disadvantage is that on too wide a building you can't get enough strength to put up with significant snow load without lots of extra structure.The other disadvantage is you get a short side or a very tall side... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What's the advantage of a single slope roof? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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But are way harder to build, and even harder to build well... A single slope roof is very easy to build, its also easy to put roofing on which will last. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties The primary disadvantage is appearance. I suggest that most gabled roofs look better. RB On 23/12/2014 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Its easier. Disadvantage is that on too wide a building you can't get enough strength to put up with significant snow load without lots of extra structure.The other disadvantage is you get a short side or a very tall side... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What's the advantage of a single slope roof? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Actually 14 isn't so bad since the half sheet you cut for one side can be used on the other... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R On 12/23/14 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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You can usually buy a kit type building from places like Lowe's as well. Might be better if you don't have much experience building things. If you have good access to the yard, then consider buying one ready built. Around here, one can have a shed hauled in and dropped off by a company that makes them up. Several styles and not much more expensive. If I could get one in past my garage, that is what I would do. I have one of the metal sheds that one bolts together but I truly dislike it and keep thinking I should replace it. It is too short and it is easy to bang one's head. It is not stout enough to attach shelving and thus store lots of smaller stuff off the floor and above the bigger stuff. Lowe's in Grand Forks ND had a display model that I lusted after. Looks like a barn with the hip roof and was 10 or 12 feet square and about that tall with a sort of loft accross the back half. I could store lots of stuff in that. RB On 23/12/2014 10:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Have at it ROFLMAO On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Make it at least 18 feet long should you have to store a car in there at some time:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Make it 12 X 14 - 10 X 14 gets narrow mighty fast. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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It is not stout enough to attach shelving and thus store lots of smaller stuff off the floor and above the bigger stuff. I built free-standing shelving inside mine, out of scrap pallet lumber. It's essentially now what is holding the whole flimsy thing up! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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2x4s and OSB. Add shingles and paint. All you need to decide is roof pitch or if you want a gambrel, and size, shape and construction of the doors. Mine has 12' sidewalls so I have a 1/2 story on top (5') for storing MB parts high and dry and sorted. Center cut out facing the doors. I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I'd add to make sure your roof overhangs the walls by 3-6. I failed to do that on our shower house and as a result I need to remake the roof to the correct size and reside one wall that stayed wet for 2 years... It was a learning experience. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties 2x4s and OSB. Add shingles and paint. All you need to decide is roof pitch or if you want a gambrel, and size, shape and construction of the doors. Mine has 12' sidewalls so I have a 1/2 story on top (5') for storing MB parts high and dry and sorted. Center cut out facing the doors. I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Nope but I've watched some of the tiny house stuff on YouTube. I'm interested but it requires a certain lifestyle. I could move to camp and live in 504sqft, our first apartment was only like 650, but life at camp is very different from life at home. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope but I've watched some of the tiny house stuff on YouTube. I'm interested but it requires a certain lifestyle. I could move to camp and live in 504sqft, our first apartment was only like 650, but life at camp is very different from life at home. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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What I wouldn’t give for a big garage…. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:18 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
What good does fertilizer do to oil stains on concrete? What sort of fertilizer? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We had ours last night. A whole lot of cleaning went on, including a (for me, rare) dump run. SWMBA wanted all the cars away from the front of the house in order to maximize guest parking. (About 30 guests, I think.) It was a fairly warm day, mid-40's and sunny, and for a change the semi- comatose cars cooperated. The 560 SEL actually _started_, so I got it backed out of the way. The Chicken Wagon started readily, of course, and with its bad B2 (?) was able to creep forward enough that I could get it into reverse and park it out of the way too. The 'heap, of course, cooperated nicely, and I ran it out to the end of the range, to mark beyond where not to go. I ran an extension cord out to power the in-car Christmas lights, and hooked up a battery charger so as to gain the parking lights as well. Very festive! It was eerie, having a completely empty parking pad. I even swept it, and poured fertilizer on all the oil spots. Easy to put six cars on concrete, and plenty of room for many more on the gravel. I don't want to leave the cars where they are, they need to be closer for tool access and electricity, and I dread SWMBA's reaction when I put them back! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Must be he was trying to make ANFO so he could blow up the concrete! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:55 AM To: Jim Cathey; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What good does fertilizer do to oil stains on concrete? What sort of fertilizer? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We had ours last night. A whole lot of cleaning went on, including a (for me, rare) dump run. SWMBA wanted all the cars away from the front of the house in order to maximize guest parking. (About 30 guests, I think.) It was a fairly warm day, mid-40's and sunny, and for a change the semi- comatose cars cooperated. The 560 SEL actually _started_, so I got it backed out of the way. The Chicken Wagon started readily, of course, and with its bad B2 (?) was able to creep forward enough that I could get it into reverse and park it out of the way too. The 'heap, of course, cooperated nicely, and I ran it out to the end of the range, to mark beyond where not to go. I ran an extension cord out to power the in-car Christmas lights, and hooked up a battery charger so as to gain the parking lights as well. Very festive! It was eerie, having a completely empty parking pad. I even swept it, and poured fertilizer on all the oil spots. Easy to put six cars on concrete, and plenty of room for many more on the gravel. I don't want to leave the cars where they are, they need to be closer for tool access and electricity, and I dread SWMBA's reaction when I put them back! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
