Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Took it easy today to give the body a rest and pay some attention to the W126, 
who has been feeling neglected of late.

Spent some time installing the Mercedes factory W123 rear mud flaps, which were 
the “mystery item” I mentioned the other day.  They arrived yesterday, so I 
spent a little time this morning cleaning up the flaps and then installed them 
this afternoon.

The brackets and everything are well thought out, but I’m not sure I like them. 
 They’re a black material, some sort of rubber, with white fibers embedded in 
it.  At first I thought there were a bunch of weird crud on them, but when I 
looked closer I realized it was the exposed fibers I was seeing.

Anyway, they’re installed but I already covered the car for the night before I 
realized I should take some pictures.  Maybe tomorrow.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Attaboy!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

Sent from my cell   

> On Dec 3, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Had to move some furniture over to the house from the MIL’s this morning, 
> which took pretty much all morning.
> 
> Got home and installed the new right rear taillight lens and seal.  Easy 
> peasey.
> 
> Rolled the car out of the garage and ran it long enough to turn around and 
> pull into the garage nose first.  Popped the hood and changed out the 
> composite washer on the fuel filter bolt for the copper crush washer from the 
> dealer.  Went inside to do some other stuff.
> 
> Came back out about an hour later and pulled the valve cover.  Found another 
> broken rubber mount on the air cleaner, which I suspected as it was vibrating 
> more than I expected, and also noticed that the thermostat housing was 
> leaking at the joint between the cover and housing.  Not a surprise since the 
> thermostat seal was hard as a rock.  Something else to add to the Monday 
> morning parts order.
> 
> Got the valve cover off and started in on the valves with my regular 
> wrenches.  Dang it!  I wish I had kept the set of valve adjusting wrenches 
> that Russ Maki gave me when he sold his diesel. Poop.
> 
> So it’s off to Harbor Freight to drop $16 on a couple of sets of cheap Chinee 
> combination wrenches.  Stopped by the Ace to see if they had copper washers, 
> as the valve cover hold down studs/nuts had none, which explained why they 
> were leaking.  No joy there,, the majik drawers failed me.  Darn!
> 
> Got home, got out the torch and started heating.  Got a couple of 14mm 
> wrenches bent up close to correct and quenched them in a bucket of water.
> 
> Went back to the engine and found these did the trick. Not as nice as the 
> real thing, but definitely better than straight combination wrenches.  As 
> with other fasteners on the car, gorillas must have done the last valve 
> adjustment. Ugh.  All of the valves were really, really tight.  I doubt it 
> had been adjusted for a lot of miles based on what I found.  Valve cover 
> looked nice and clean, and the head looked good as far as a lack of crud.
> 
> Back rubber bumper on the air cleaner had sheared off.  Only the metal disc 
> and the cup were still there, and they weren’t budging.  I filled the cup 
> with Kroil and shot some underneath to hit the exposed threads.  Went back to 
> doing some other things and returned with a pair of channelocks about five 
> minutes later.  Remains of the bumper turned right out!  Kroil is magical 
> stuff, for sure.
> 
> Got everything buttoned back up and took it for a short test drive.  Found 
> that the copper crush washer on the fuel filter bolt seeps.  Dang it!
> 
> Kaleb!  Find me an 02 fuel filter housing, please! The later one with the two 
> O-rings on the hollow bolt.
> 
> With the filter seeping, the thermostat cover seeping and no washers on the 
> valve cover nuts/studs, I’m not going to drive it until I get everything to 
> seal it up well.  Despite the minor issues it runs well, even better than it 
> did.  I was surprised as I didn’t think a valve adjustment would make that 
> much difference.
> 
> Time to hit the shower and then let my back rest.  Hanging over that engine 
> adjusting valves is a real pain in the back…
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Had to move some furniture over to the house from the MIL’s this morning, which 
took pretty much all morning.

Got home and installed the new right rear taillight lens and seal.  Easy peasey.

Rolled the car out of the garage and ran it long enough to turn around and pull 
into the garage nose first.  Popped the hood and changed out the composite 
washer on the fuel filter bolt for the copper crush washer from the dealer.  
Went inside to do some other stuff.

Came back out about an hour later and pulled the valve cover.  Found another 
broken rubber mount on the air cleaner, which I suspected as it was vibrating 
more than I expected, and also noticed that the thermostat housing was leaking 
at the joint between the cover and housing.  Not a surprise since the 
thermostat seal was hard as a rock.  Something else to add to the Monday 
morning parts order.

Got the valve cover off and started in on the valves with my regular wrenches.  
Dang it!  I wish I had kept the set of valve adjusting wrenches that Russ Maki 
gave me when he sold his diesel. Poop.

So it’s off to Harbor Freight to drop $16 on a couple of sets of cheap Chinee 
combination wrenches.  Stopped by the Ace to see if they had copper washers, as 
the valve cover hold down studs/nuts had none, which explained why they were 
leaking.  No joy there,, the majik drawers failed me.  Darn!

Got home, got out the torch and started heating.  Got a couple of 14mm wrenches 
bent up close to correct and quenched them in a bucket of water.

Went back to the engine and found these did the trick. Not as nice as the real 
thing, but definitely better than straight combination wrenches.  As with other 
fasteners on the car, gorillas must have done the last valve adjustment. Ugh.  
All of the valves were really, really tight.  I doubt it had been adjusted for 
a lot of miles based on what I found.  Valve cover looked nice and clean, and 
the head looked good as far as a lack of crud.

Back rubber bumper on the air cleaner had sheared off.  Only the metal disc and 
the cup were still there, and they weren’t budging.  I filled the cup with 
Kroil and shot some underneath to hit the exposed threads.  Went back to doing 
some other things and returned with a pair of channelocks about five minutes 
later.  Remains of the bumper turned right out!  Kroil is magical stuff, for 
sure.

Got everything buttoned back up and took it for a short test drive.  Found that 
the copper crush washer on the fuel filter bolt seeps.  Dang it!

Kaleb!  Find me an 02 fuel filter housing, please! The later one with the two 
O-rings on the hollow bolt.

With the filter seeping, the thermostat cover seeping and no washers on the 
valve cover nuts/studs, I’m not going to drive it until I get everything to 
seal it up well.  Despite the minor issues it runs well, even better than it 
did.  I was surprised as I didn’t think a valve adjustment would make that much 
difference.

Time to hit the shower and then let my back rest.  Hanging over that engine 
adjusting valves is a real pain in the back…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Got home from work, let the livestock out on the lanai and changed clothes.

Headed out to the garage to drain, flush and refill the cooling system on the 
300D, as well as both hoses.

Drained the system, got both hoses off without incident and removed the 
thermostat, which I did not replace as it's working fine. I do wish I had a 
thermostat seal, as the one on the car was pretty hard.

I flushed with lots of clear water, including the heater circuit, and after 
everything drained I used compressed air in the heater circuit to flush as much 
of the water out as possible.

Got the new hoses in place, the thermostat housing cleaned up and the bolts set 
with anti seize, and sealed up the system.

A bottle of RedLine WaterWetter went in first, then about a gallon of MB (blue) 
coolant premixed at 50-50.  Ran for a few minutes with the heat on, ended up 
getting a total of almost two gallons in the system. Road tested several times 
with proper temperature, lots and lots of heat when desired, and all is well.

That's it for the evening.

This weekend I have to move some furniture from the MIL's house, then when I 
get home I'm adjusting valves on the car, as I don't think they've been done in 
a long time.  After that I'll have the transmission fluid/filter/B1 kit and 
engine mounts left to do.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[MG via Mercedes]

try a NAPA store and see it they have the little brass dingies 
that do that. We used to have a parts box that had them and more 
seals for the hoses because sometimes you get too fast on taking 
the hose off and the freon spewing out would spit the seal and 
the little brass thing out and its gone. So had to have new ones 
on hand. I would guess they should be still available.


Manfred


Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 19:36:04 -0500
From: Dan Penoff 

I got some adapter hoses for my R134a manifold gauge set and 
tried checking the AC pressures.  No joy.  The R12 fittings don?t 
have a nub or button that projects out far enough to depress the 
pin on the Schrader valve.  Darn it.  Guess I just need to break 
down and buy an R12 gauge set.  Wish I could find a set of hoses 
that would work with my existing gauge set.  If anyone knows of a 
source for some hoses that would work, I?m all ears.


Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Do you know his email? I will put him on the ChowdahQ invite list.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Dec 1, 2016 7:34 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Curley wrote:
> > ...wealth of info too, as was Matt Cama.
>
> Matt lives in ME now - he should be ushered in to the ChowdahQ crew.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Try Johnstone or wayne dennis other HVAC distributor for hoses.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
December 1, 2016 at 6:36 PM
Had to do the crank position sensor on the SL500 when I got home, took 
me all of about 15 minutes, if that. Cleaned the MAF while I had the 
air cleaner off. Seemed happy, so I moved to the 300D to do a couple 
of minor things.


Replaced the old sealing ring on the power steering pump. It was 
leaking slightly and making a mess, so it got replaced. Realized I had 
left the brake fluid reservoir cap off when I was topping off the 
fluid yesterday. Dang it. No sign of it anywhere in the nether regions 
of the engine compartment, but no worries, as I had a spare in the 
“drawer ‘o’ parts”. Huzzah!


I got some adapter hoses for my R134a manifold gauge set and tried 
checking the AC pressures. No joy. The R12 fittings don’t have a nub 
or button that projects out far enough to depress the pin on the 
Schrader valve. Darn it. Guess I just need to break down and buy an 
R12 gauge set. Wish I could find a set of hoses that would work with 
my existing gauge set. If anyone knows of a source for some hoses that 
would work, I’m all ears.


I may tackle the cooling system drain and flush tomorrow after work. 
I’ve got new radiator hoses that are nice and flexible, unlike the 
ones that are currently on the car. Over the weekend I’m hoping to do 
the engine mounts as well and maybe the transmission fluid and filter, 
along with the B1 piston kit that I got today in my parts order.


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Had to do the crank position sensor on the SL500 when I got home, took me all 
of about 15 minutes, if that.  Cleaned the MAF while I had the air cleaner off. 
 Seemed happy, so I moved to the 300D to do a couple of minor things.

Replaced the old sealing ring on the power steering pump.  It was leaking 
slightly and making a mess, so it got replaced.  Realized I had left the brake 
fluid reservoir cap off when I was topping off the fluid yesterday. Dang it.  
No sign of it anywhere in the nether regions of the engine compartment, but no 
worries, as I had a spare in the “drawer ‘o’ parts”.  Huzzah!

I got some adapter hoses for my R134a manifold gauge set and tried checking the 
AC pressures.  No joy.  The R12 fittings don’t have a nub or button that 
projects out far enough to depress the pin on the Schrader valve.  Darn it.  
Guess I just need to break down and buy an R12 gauge set.  Wish I could find a 
set of hoses that would work with my existing gauge set.  If anyone knows of a 
source for some hoses that would work, I’m all ears.

I may tackle the cooling system drain and flush tomorrow after work.  I’ve got 
new radiator hoses that are nice and flexible, unlike the ones that are 
currently on the car.  Over the weekend I’m hoping to do the engine mounts as 
well and maybe the transmission fluid and filter, along with the B1 piston kit 
that I got today in my parts order.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> ...wealth of info too, as was Matt Cama.

Matt lives in ME now - he should be ushered in to the ChowdahQ crew.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

When Dickarde ran the Veterans list, we had several of you, including 
the guy with the shop.  Benz barn?  He was a pretty good egg.  John 
Green was a wealth of info too, as was Matt Cama.


You'll have to do some recruiting for us.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
December 1, 2016 at 4:25 PM
Sort of odd that there are not more Canadians on the list. We do have 
the odd MB in Canada.


RB




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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Andrew.

Like much else, it was abandoned in the UK.

My UK relatives say "You sound like a proper Yank".

Here, people say "Do you have an accent?"

My reply is always "I'm speaking English, You have an accent!"

Confused much?


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: 01 December 2016 16:35
To: Mercedes Discussion List; Curt Raymond
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

And Fred is a Brit it turns out. I had no idea. Where's the accent?

On Dec 1, 2016 12:29 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north America.
Randy is Canadian...
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sort of odd that there are not more Canadians on the list. We do have 
the odd MB in Canada.


RB

On 01/12/2016 4:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

oops, sorry yes, Randy is one of us.  non-na or overseas.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
December 1, 2016 at 11:25 AM
I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north 
America. Randy is Canadian...

-Curt

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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original
Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.
One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign 
members.


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not to worry.

RB

On 01/12/2016 4:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

oops, sorry yes, Randy is one of us.  non-na or overseas.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
December 1, 2016 at 11:25 AM
I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north 
America. Randy is Canadian...

-Curt

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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original
Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.
One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign 
members.



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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

oops, sorry yes, Randy is one of us.  non-na or overseas.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
December 1, 2016 at 11:25 AM
I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north America. 
Randy is Canadian...

-Curt

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Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original
Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.
One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign 
members.


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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And Fred is a Brit it turns out. I had no idea. Where's the accent?

On Dec 1, 2016 12:29 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north America.
Randy is Canadian...
-Curt

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I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original
Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.
One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign members.

> MG via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> December 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM
> How about the one thing I would love to find. The air filter unit for
> very dusty conditions. Mounts on the right inner fender so no more air
> filter mounts to break.
>
> Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I would guess that your memory is good. The parts diagram shows what is 
in my 76 300D which I doubt is anything special intended for dusty areas.


RB

On 01/12/2016 1:52 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
That looks like the picture I saw except I could swear that the one I 
saw had the round can laying on it's side with fins around the filter 
just like a lot of the tractors have, to spin the air and precipitate 
out a lot of the dust through centrifugal force.


In any case the majority of the parts for it are NLA.

Manfred


Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:15:33 -0500
From: "d...@penoff.com" 

You mean this:

http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1072694_make=1103_model=16069=1982_category=24394 



Dan




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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Lying.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That looks like the picture I saw except I could swear that the one I saw
> had the round can laying on it's side with fins around the filter just like
> a lot of the tractors have, to spin the air and precipitate out a lot of
> the dust through centrifugal force.
>
> In any case the majority of the parts for it are NLA.
>
> Manfred
>
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:15:33 -0500
> From: "d...@penoff.com" 
>
> You mean this:
>
> http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=
> 1072694_make=1103_model=16069=1982_category=24394
>
> Dan
>
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[MG via Mercedes]

That looks like the picture I saw except I could swear that the 
one I saw had the round can laying on it's side with fins around 
the filter just like a lot of the tractors have, to spin the air 
and precipitate out a lot of the dust through centrifugal force.


In any case the majority of the parts for it are NLA.

Manfred


Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:15:33 -0500
From: "d...@penoff.com" 

You mean this:

http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1072694_make=1103_model=16069=1982_category=24394

Dan

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That looks like my CA version air cleaner canister (1985 300TD)

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north America.
> Randy is Canadian...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:57 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!
>
> I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original
> Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.
> One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign
> members.
>
> > MG via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > December 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM
> > How about the one thing I would love to find. The air filter unit for
> > very dusty conditions. Mounts on the right inner fender so no more air
> > filter mounts to break.
> >
> > Manfred
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I think you mean he was the last list member outside of north America. Randy is 
Canadian...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original 
Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.  
One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign members.

> MG via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> December 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM
> How about the one thing I would love to find. The air filter unit for 
> very dusty conditions. Mounts on the right inner fender so no more air 
> filter mounts to break.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

You mean this:

http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1072694_make=1103_model=16069=1982_category=24394

Dan

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:44 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
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> How about the one thing I would love to find. The air filter unit for very 
> dusty conditions. Mounts on the right inner fender so no more air filter 
> mounts to break.
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I'd think you might be able to find that in South Afrika.  The original 
Mercedes Veterans list, based in CH had several guys in SA on the list.  
One of them moved to OZ.  I think Henny was the last of our foreign members.



MG via Mercedes 
December 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM
How about the one thing I would love to find. The air filter unit for 
very dusty conditions. Mounts on the right inner fender so no more air 
filter mounts to break.


Manfred


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[MG via Mercedes]

How about the one thing I would love to find. The air filter unit 
for very dusty conditions. Mounts on the right inner fender so no 
more air filter mounts to break.


Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

A green trunk triangle?

-MMM-
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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

A factory flare gun, for desert treks?  Front center seat cushion for
6-passenger situations?

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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The cassette case insert for the console tray?


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 30, 2016 at 11:56 AM
No prank. When I have it and can take some pictures I’ll post 
something. Depending on when they ship it should be here late this 
week/early next. The pictures I have from the original owner are 
pretty lousy.


Dan


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

After I finished work today, I went out and got the front of the car in the air 
and the wheels off.

I replaced both front brake hoses and bled the front brake circuit.  Looks like 
discs will be in order for the next brake job.  Bummer -  I know they’re cheap, 
but I really hate having to do wheel bearings.  Ugh.

Got the third brake light working, despite its ugliness.  Turns out there was a 
little module in it, no doubt to allow connection to brake lights that were 
combination brake/turn signals, as it had two wires that come out besides the 
ground.  It was, not doubt, quite dead, as the light didn’t work and the lamp 
was good.  I cut it out of the circuit and connected the lamp directly to the 
wire coming from the brake light.  Works now, bright as heck at night since it 
doesn’t sit flush to the window.

Was wondering what I could do to clean the awful brake dust on the front 
wheels, since nothing I had seemed to make a difference.  Did some Googling and 
found that  oven cleaner was a preferred product to tackle tough brake dust 
issues.  I had the remains of a can of grille cleaner, which is the same thing, 
so I gave it a shot.

Got about 90% of the brake dust off the wheels.  They look pretty nice now.

Discovered that the passenger side door lock (key) doesn’t seem to do anything 
when you turn the lock.  Hmm.  Have to pull the door panel and see what’s up 
there.  I’ve noticed that the trunk lock doesn’t work with the key when the car 
is locked, either.

That was pretty much it for the day, as I had to tear into the SL500 to see why 
it’s upset.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rear seating area drink trays?

On Nov 30, 2016 2:05 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Cool!  Thanks!
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:18 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > http://www.topcaraudio.com/products/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-S45-
> 4%22-SPEAKERS.html
> >
> > And
> >
> > http://www.topcaraudio.com/products/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-S55-
> 5%252d1%7B47%7D4%22-SPEAKERS.html
> >
> > Manfred
> >
> >
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:30:44 -0500
> >> From: Dan Penoff 
> >> I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and
> front of the car.  I want something that?s decent but will be a drop-in
> replacement.  Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55
> fit the front and back, respectively, however, they don?t make them any
> more.  I?m going to do some digging to see what their modern replacements
> are and if they will fit as well.
> >> I don?t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the
> original speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy.  They?re
> intact, but the cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not
> exposure to the elements.
> >> Dan
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Car phone...
Curt

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  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   Mud flaps

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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So you need to conduct a contest so one of us can win a valuable prize if
> we guess correctly.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> No prank.  When I have it and can take some pictures I’ll post something.
>> Depending on when they ship it should be here late this week/early next.
>> The pictures I have from the original owner are pretty lousy.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> He's being coy about it, which means he is probably going to prank us.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cool!  Thanks!

Dan


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:18 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> 
> http://www.topcaraudio.com/products/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-S45-4%22-SPEAKERS.html
> 
> And
> 
> http://www.topcaraudio.com/products/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-S55-5%252d1%7B47%7D4%22-SPEAKERS.html
> 
> Manfred
> 
> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:30:44 -0500
>> From: Dan Penoff 
>> I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and front 
>> of the car.  I want something that?s decent but will be a drop-in 
>> replacement.  Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55 
>> fit the front and back, respectively, however, they don?t make them any 
>> more.  I?m going to do some digging to see what their modern replacements 
>> are and if they will fit as well.
>> I don?t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the 
>> original speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy.  They?re 
>> intact, but the cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not 
>> exposure to the elements.
>> Dan
> 
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Mud flaps

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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So you need to conduct a contest so one of us can win a valuable prize if
> we guess correctly.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> No prank.  When I have it and can take some pictures I’ll post something.
>> Depending on when they ship it should be here late this week/early next.
>> The pictures I have from the original owner are pretty lousy.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> He's being coy about it, which means he is probably going to prank us.
>>> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.  I wasn’t aware there was a motorized one, but I did know of a manual one.

Part numbers:

B66688301 - white
B66688302 - beige
B66688377 - mounting kit

They’re pretty much unknown on this side of the pond as far as I know. 
Unobtanium, for sure.

Dan


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> My vote is for a rear window motorized shade.
> 
> -
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My vote is for a rear window motorized shade.

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On 30/11/2016 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

No prank.  When I have it and can take some pictures I’ll post something.  
Depending on when they ship it should be here late this week/early next.  The 
pictures I have from the original owner are pretty lousy.

Dan


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He's being coy about it, which means he is probably going to prank us.



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So you need to conduct a contest so one of us can win a valuable prize if
we guess correctly.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No prank.  When I have it and can take some pictures I’ll post something.
> Depending on when they ship it should be here late this week/early next.
> The pictures I have from the original owner are pretty lousy.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > He's being coy about it, which means he is probably going to prank us.
> >
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No prank.  When I have it and can take some pictures I’ll post something.  
Depending on when they ship it should be here late this week/early next.  The 
pictures I have from the original owner are pretty lousy.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He's being coy about it, which means he is probably going to prank us.
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He's being coy about it, which means he is probably going to prank us.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yea so what is it?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Absolutely not.  They will have to fit within the boundaries of the
> stock speaker grilles.
> >
> > Nothing but stock, man!
> >
> > I have a very rare W123 accessory coming to me in the next few days,
> something that I’ll bet few, if any, have ever seen.  Not sure if I’ll
> install it or not, but I had the opportunity to snag it and I just couldn’t
> pass it up.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Please do NOT tart up this car with gross looking non OEM speakers.
> >>
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Yea so what is it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not.  They will have to fit within the boundaries of the stock 
> speaker grilles.
> 
> Nothing but stock, man!
> 
> I have a very rare W123 accessory coming to me in the next few days, 
> something that I’ll bet few, if any, have ever seen.  Not sure if I’ll 
> install it or not, but I had the opportunity to snag it and I just couldn’t 
> pass it up.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Please do NOT tart up this car with gross looking non OEM speakers.
>> 
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[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A coupla 12s in the trunk would be exactly what it needs, Poos could 
listen to some Vanilla Ice at high volume and impress the hood rats.


--FT

On 11/30/16 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Please do NOT tart up this car with gross looking non OEM speakers.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


I replaced the speakers in the TD way back when.  the originals
are some odd size, there was a discussion about them at the time. 
I bought some basic 4" speakers (I think that was the size, maybe

3" or 3.5", whatever the standard size is) and they "fit" but not
all the mount holes lined up as they were slightly bigger.  They
sounded infinitely better though than the old ones.  At some point
I bought the boy a new radio/CD player unit and we put that in, it
sounded WAY better than the old original, which was sorta not
working too well.  I still have the original in a box somewhere, I
think it was a cassette player.

--FT

On 11/29/16 8:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Slow day today - I spent a lot of the day doing analysis at
work (lots of tie looking at packet data - dull and tedious
stuff) so by the tie I got home I wasn’t terribly motivated to
do anything.

As stated previously, I replaced the leaking aluminum crush
washer on the fuel filter bolt with a #30 cap thread gasket
which worked quite well and stopped the seeping.

While I was under the hood I replaced the elbow and tube
breather arrangement with the flat hose.  So much nicer and
cleaner than all that plumbing with the clamps and elbows!

I might tackle the engine mounts tomorrow after work if I feel
up to it.  If not, maybe just the front brake lines, as those
won’t be difficult and shouldn’t take long.

I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both
back and front of the car.  I want something that’s decent but
will be a drop-in replacement.  Initial research has shown
that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55 fit the front and back,
respectively, however, they don’t make them any more.  I’m
going to do some digging to see what their modern replacements
are and if they will fit as well.

I don’t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster,
but the original speakers are clearly tired and sounding
pretty lousy.  They’re intact, but the cones are probably
pretty dead by now from age if not exposure to the elements.

Dan
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1

Only after I cut a couple of turns out of the springs.

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A coupla 12s in the trunk would be exactly what it needs, Poos could listen 
> to some Vanilla Ice at high volume and impress the hood rats.
> 
> --FT
> 


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely not.  They will have to fit within the boundaries of the stock 
speaker grilles.

Nothing but stock, man!

I have a very rare W123 accessory coming to me in the next few days, something 
that I’ll bet few, if any, have ever seen.  Not sure if I’ll install it or not, 
but I had the opportunity to snag it and I just couldn’t pass it up.

Dan


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Please do NOT tart up this car with gross looking non OEM speakers.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A coupla 12s in the trunk would be exactly what it needs, Poos could 
listen to some Vanilla Ice at high volume and impress the hood rats.


--FT

On 11/30/16 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Please do NOT tart up this car with gross looking non OEM speakers.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


I replaced the speakers in the TD way back when.  the originals
are some odd size, there was a discussion about them at the time. 
I bought some basic 4" speakers (I think that was the size, maybe

3" or 3.5", whatever the standard size is) and they "fit" but not
all the mount holes lined up as they were slightly bigger.  They
sounded infinitely better though than the old ones.  At some point
I bought the boy a new radio/CD player unit and we put that in, it
sounded WAY better than the old original, which was sorta not
working too well.  I still have the original in a box somewhere, I
think it was a cassette player.

--FT

On 11/29/16 8:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Slow day today - I spent a lot of the day doing analysis at
work (lots of tie looking at packet data - dull and tedious
stuff) so by the tie I got home I wasn’t terribly motivated to
do anything.

As stated previously, I replaced the leaking aluminum crush
washer on the fuel filter bolt with a #30 cap thread gasket
which worked quite well and stopped the seeping.

While I was under the hood I replaced the elbow and tube
breather arrangement with the flat hose.  So much nicer and
cleaner than all that plumbing with the clamps and elbows!

I might tackle the engine mounts tomorrow after work if I feel
up to it.  If not, maybe just the front brake lines, as those
won’t be difficult and shouldn’t take long.

I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both
back and front of the car.  I want something that’s decent but
will be a drop-in replacement.  Initial research has shown
that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55 fit the front and back,
respectively, however, they don’t make them any more.  I’m
going to do some digging to see what their modern replacements
are and if they will fit as well.

I don’t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster,
but the original speakers are clearly tired and sounding
pretty lousy.  They’re intact, but the cones are probably
pretty dead by now from age if not exposure to the elements.

Dan
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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Please do NOT tart up this car with gross looking non OEM speakers.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I replaced the speakers in the TD way back when.  the originals are some
> odd size, there was a discussion about them at the time.  I bought some
> basic 4" speakers (I think that was the size, maybe 3" or 3.5", whatever
> the standard size is) and they "fit" but not all the mount holes lined up
> as they were slightly bigger.  They sounded infinitely better though than
> the old ones.  At some point I bought the boy a new radio/CD player unit
> and we put that in, it sounded WAY better than the old original, which was
> sorta not working too well.  I still have the original in a box somewhere,
> I think it was a cassette player.
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/29/16 8:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Slow day today - I spent a lot of the day doing analysis at work (lots of
>> tie looking at packet data - dull and tedious stuff) so by the tie I got
>> home I wasn’t terribly motivated to do anything.
>>
>> As stated previously, I replaced the leaking aluminum crush washer on the
>> fuel filter bolt with a #30 cap thread gasket which worked quite well and
>> stopped the seeping.
>>
>> While I was under the hood I replaced the elbow and tube breather
>> arrangement with the flat hose.  So much nicer and cleaner than all that
>> plumbing with the clamps and elbows!
>>
>> I might tackle the engine mounts tomorrow after work if I feel up to it.
>> If not, maybe just the front brake lines, as those won’t be difficult and
>> shouldn’t take long.
>>
>> I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and
>> front of the car.  I want something that’s decent but will be a drop-in
>> replacement.  Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55
>> fit the front and back, respectively, however, they don’t make them any
>> more.  I’m going to do some digging to see what their modern replacements
>> are and if they will fit as well.
>>
>> I don’t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the
>> original speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy.  They’re
>> intact, but the cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not
>> exposure to the elements.
>>
>> Dan
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> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I replaced the speakers in the TD way back when.  the originals are some 
odd size, there was a discussion about them at the time.  I bought some 
basic 4" speakers (I think that was the size, maybe 3" or 3.5", whatever 
the standard size is) and they "fit" but not all the mount holes lined 
up as they were slightly bigger.  They sounded infinitely better though 
than the old ones.  At some point I bought the boy a new radio/CD player 
unit and we put that in, it sounded WAY better than the old original, 
which was sorta not working too well.  I still have the original in a 
box somewhere, I think it was a cassette player.


--FT

On 11/29/16 8:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Slow day today - I spent a lot of the day doing analysis at work (lots of tie 
looking at packet data - dull and tedious stuff) so by the tie I got home I 
wasn’t terribly motivated to do anything.

As stated previously, I replaced the leaking aluminum crush washer on the fuel 
filter bolt with a #30 cap thread gasket which worked quite well and stopped 
the seeping.

While I was under the hood I replaced the elbow and tube breather arrangement 
with the flat hose.  So much nicer and cleaner than all that plumbing with the 
clamps and elbows!

I might tackle the engine mounts tomorrow after work if I feel up to it.  If 
not, maybe just the front brake lines, as those won’t be difficult and 
shouldn’t take long.

I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and front of 
the car.  I want something that’s decent but will be a drop-in replacement.  
Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55 fit the front and 
back, respectively, however, they don’t make them any more.  I’m going to do 
some digging to see what their modern replacements are and if they will fit as 
well.

I don’t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the original 
speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy.  They’re intact, but the 
cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not exposure to the elements.

Dan
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[MG via Mercedes]

Dan,

http://www.topcaraudio.com/products/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-S45-4%22-SPEAKERS.html

And

http://www.topcaraudio.com/products/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-S55-5%252d1%7B47%7D4%22-SPEAKERS.html

Manfred




Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:30:44 -0500
From: Dan Penoff 

I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and front of 
the car.  I want something that?s decent but will be a drop-in replacement.  
Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55 fit the front and 
back, respectively, however, they don?t make them any more.  I?m going to do 
some digging to see what their modern replacements are and if they will fit as 
well.

I don?t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the original 
speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy.  They?re intact, but the 
cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not exposure to the elements.

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[clay via Mercedes]

I could might score speakers at PnP.  I just picked up a cordless recip saw to 
allow me to remove needed body parts for the W126.  Depending upon rain, I 
would be heading out one of the days left this week.  Griots is Saturday in the 
opposite direction.


clay

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Speakers. 
> The prices are not for the faint of heart. 
> Perhaps you can name drop someone who works nearby for a major automotive r 
> department and get a better deal
> 
> ‎http://beckerautosound.com/mercedes-benz-speakers-72-95/3129162
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Check out Parts express for speakers.partsexpress.com


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 29, 2016 at 7:30 PM
Slow day today - I spent a lot of the day doing analysis at work (lots 
of tie looking at packet data - dull and tedious stuff) so by the tie 
I got home I wasn’t terribly motivated to do anything.


As stated previously, I replaced the leaking aluminum crush washer on 
the fuel filter bolt with a #30 cap thread gasket which worked quite 
well and stopped the seeping.


While I was under the hood I replaced the elbow and tube breather 
arrangement with the flat hose. So much nicer and cleaner than all 
that plumbing with the clamps and elbows!


I might tackle the engine mounts tomorrow after work if I feel up to 
it. If not, maybe just the front brake lines, as those won’t be 
difficult and shouldn’t take long.


I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and 
front of the car. I want something that’s decent but will be a drop-in 
replacement. Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and 
S55 fit the front and back, respectively, however, they don’t make 
them any more. I’m going to do some digging to see what their modern 
replacements are and if they will fit as well.


I don’t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the 
original speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy. They’re 
intact, but the cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not 
exposure to the elements.


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In fairness to Eddie and friends those are prices per pair.

I’ve got a Europa cassette I’ve already talked to Eddie about rebuilding.  I 
could probably entice him into cutting me some slack for a package deal if I 
was so inclined, but I can’t justify the cost when I can buy 100mm and 130mm 
aftermarket speakers for a third of what they’re charging.  And since I’m 
running the stock Becker, it’s not like I need something high power/high end.

Dan

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Speakers. 
> The prices are not for the faint of heart. 
> Perhaps you can name drop someone who works nearby for a major automotive r 
> department and get a better deal
> 
> ‎http://beckerautosound.com/mercedes-benz-speakers-72-95/3129162
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Speakers. 
The prices are not for the faint of heart. 
Perhaps you can name drop someone who works nearby for a major automotive r 
department and get a better deal

‎http://beckerautosound.com/mercedes-benz-speakers-72-95/3129162

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Slow day today - I spent a lot of the day doing analysis at work (lots of tie 
looking at packet data - dull and tedious stuff) so by the tie I got home I 
wasn’t terribly motivated to do anything.

As stated previously, I replaced the leaking aluminum crush washer on the fuel 
filter bolt with a #30 cap thread gasket which worked quite well and stopped 
the seeping.

While I was under the hood I replaced the elbow and tube breather arrangement 
with the flat hose.  So much nicer and cleaner than all that plumbing with the 
clamps and elbows!

I might tackle the engine mounts tomorrow after work if I feel up to it.  If 
not, maybe just the front brake lines, as those won’t be difficult and 
shouldn’t take long.

I am starting to research some replacement speakers for both back and front of 
the car.  I want something that’s decent but will be a drop-in replacement.  
Initial research has shown that Boston Acoustics S45 and S55 fit the front and 
back, respectively, however, they don’t make them any more.  I’m going to do 
some digging to see what their modern replacements are and if they will fit as 
well.

I don’t want to make this some ground pounding ghetto blaster, but the original 
speakers are clearly tired and sounding pretty lousy.  They’re intact, but the 
cones are probably pretty dead by now from age if not exposure to the elements.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Could be that’s the way MB shipped them to the US - you get a sunroof, like it 
or not.  Of course, at that time a lot of people ordered their cars, so maybe 
it was a novelty?  I don’t recall too many domestic cars having sunroofs at 
that time.

The crush washer on the fuel filter is seeping, so I’ll drive the 350SDL today 
until I can swing by Ace and get a composition washer to replace it.

Kaleb, do you have an “02” filter assembly that uses the two O-rings instead of 
the crush washer and O-ring you want to sell?

Got a box ‘o’ stuff in from FCP Euro last night.  Curved breather hose, more 
ATF and a primer pump that I really didn’t need but will keep on the shelf for 
a backup.

Dan


> On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> "Meal" plate is MUCH funnier than "metal" plate.
> 
> I thought sliding roof was standard issue.  Never seen a 123 turbo w/o a 
> sunroof.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"Meal" plate is MUCH funnier than "metal" plate.

I thought sliding roof was standard issue.  Never seen a 123 turbo w/o a
sunroof.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That should be “effects".
>
> Almost forgot - put the brand new MB carpeted floor mats in after spraying
> them with a can of ScotchGard I found in the garage.  They’re beautiful,
> but I know they won’t stay that way. Darn.
>
> Going to order the K1 shift kit from the dealer today so that I can
> install it next weekend when I do the filter and fluid.  Got a set of
> engine mounts to do, too.  Might try those out one evening this week if I
> feel up to it.
>
> Looking forward to getting out on the road this morning.
>
> Happy Cyber Monday, all!
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 27, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Slow day today.  Seems that the cumulative affects of the week have
> caught up with me.  I am drained.
> >
> > Mild tinkering and clean up stuff so far:
> >
> > Drained PS reservoir, installed new filter and topped off with MB
> fluid.  Old fluid was a little dark, but not bad.  It was MB fluid, which
> is good.
> >
> > Polished out the side windows to get the last of the water spots off.
> Did the windshield as well and then applied some Rain-X.
> >
> > Driver’s outside rear view mirror housing seemed sloppy, like the spring
> wasn’t holding it tight to the door frame, so I popped the glass out to
> have a look.  No wonder - the spring was unhooked from the housing for some
> reason.  Polished the mirror glass and greased up the swivel and other
> parts of the mount and reinstalled it.
> >
> > Plugged the vacuum line to the EGR.  PO told me it had a BB in it but
> considering other things he told me, I checked to be sure.  No BB.  Vacuum
> all the way back to the changeover valves as I suspected, so I put a golf
> tee in the line at the EGR for now.
> >
> > Pulled the glove compartment liner to see if the foam hose was still
> intact, despite the ACC working just fine as far as temperatures and fan
> speeds.  Amazing!  The original foam hose is still in place and in good
> condition.  I’ve never seen one before, other than in powder form.  Nice.
> >
> > Went through the contents of the owner’s manual pouch.  I was stunned.
> Bought at Lokey MB (Clearwater) in 1982, owner’s book stamped for all
> services up until 1999 around 100k, shortly before the PO bought it.  I
> even found the window sticker and predelivery checklist, as well as the
> meal plate they issued with the cars back then to be able to stamp the
> service orders with the owner’s information when the car came in for
> service.
> >
> > $29,698.00 MSRP
> > N/C Becker Europa Radio & Cassette
> > $829.00 Sliding roof option
> > $115.00 distribution & delivery
> >
> > $30.642.00 final price.
> >
> > Window sticker: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfm9x6ajn2zw3f0/1982%20300D%
> 20Window%20Sticker001.pdf?dl=0
> >
> > Predelivery Checklist: https://www.dropbox.com/s/
> v1g6boahdq9vbcw/1982%20300D%20Predelivery001.pdf?dl=0
> >
> > Might do a little more, probably won’t.  My Allen Edmonds have been
> begging for a shine, so I should probably address that.  Planning on
> driving the car to work tomorrow.  Should be fun.
> >
> > Dan
> >
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That should be “effects".

Almost forgot - put the brand new MB carpeted floor mats in after spraying them 
with a can of ScotchGard I found in the garage.  They’re beautiful, but I know 
they won’t stay that way. Darn.

Going to order the K1 shift kit from the dealer today so that I can install it 
next weekend when I do the filter and fluid.  Got a set of engine mounts to do, 
too.  Might try those out one evening this week if I feel up to it.

Looking forward to getting out on the road this morning.

Happy Cyber Monday, all!

Dan


> On Nov 27, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Slow day today.  Seems that the cumulative affects of the week have caught up 
> with me.  I am drained.
> 
> Mild tinkering and clean up stuff so far:
> 
> Drained PS reservoir, installed new filter and topped off with MB fluid.  Old 
> fluid was a little dark, but not bad.  It was MB fluid, which is good.
> 
> Polished out the side windows to get the last of the water spots off.  Did 
> the windshield as well and then applied some Rain-X.
> 
> Driver’s outside rear view mirror housing seemed sloppy, like the spring 
> wasn’t holding it tight to the door frame, so I popped the glass out to have 
> a look.  No wonder - the spring was unhooked from the housing for some 
> reason.  Polished the mirror glass and greased up the swivel and other parts 
> of the mount and reinstalled it.
> 
> Plugged the vacuum line to the EGR.  PO told me it had a BB in it but 
> considering other things he told me, I checked to be sure.  No BB.  Vacuum 
> all the way back to the changeover valves as I suspected, so I put a golf tee 
> in the line at the EGR for now.
> 
> Pulled the glove compartment liner to see if the foam hose was still intact, 
> despite the ACC working just fine as far as temperatures and fan speeds.  
> Amazing!  The original foam hose is still in place and in good condition.  
> I’ve never seen one before, other than in powder form.  Nice.
> 
> Went through the contents of the owner’s manual pouch.  I was stunned.  
> Bought at Lokey MB (Clearwater) in 1982, owner’s book stamped for all 
> services up until 1999 around 100k, shortly before the PO bought it.  I even 
> found the window sticker and predelivery checklist, as well as the meal plate 
> they issued with the cars back then to be able to stamp the service orders 
> with the owner’s information when the car came in for service.
> 
> $29,698.00 MSRP
> N/C Becker Europa Radio & Cassette
> $829.00 Sliding roof option
> $115.00 distribution & delivery
> 
> $30.642.00 final price.
> 
> Window sticker: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfm9x6ajn2zw3f0/1982%20300D%20Window%20Sticker001.pdf?dl=0
> 
> Predelivery Checklist: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1g6boahdq9vbcw/1982%20300D%20Predelivery001.pdf?dl=0
> 
> Might do a little more, probably won’t.  My Allen Edmonds have been begging 
> for a shine, so I should probably address that.  Planning on driving the car 
> to work tomorrow.  Should be fun.
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Slow day today.  Seems that the cumulative affects of the week have caught up 
with me.  I am drained.

Mild tinkering and clean up stuff so far:

Drained PS reservoir, installed new filter and topped off with MB fluid.  Old 
fluid was a little dark, but not bad.  It was MB fluid, which is good.

Polished out the side windows to get the last of the water spots off.  Did the 
windshield as well and then applied some Rain-X.

Driver’s outside rear view mirror housing seemed sloppy, like the spring wasn’t 
holding it tight to the door frame, so I popped the glass out to have a look.  
No wonder - the spring was unhooked from the housing for some reason.  Polished 
the mirror glass and greased up the swivel and other parts of the mount and 
reinstalled it.

Plugged the vacuum line to the EGR.  PO told me it had a BB in it but 
considering other things he told me, I checked to be sure.  No BB.  Vacuum all 
the way back to the changeover valves as I suspected, so I put a golf tee in 
the line at the EGR for now.

Pulled the glove compartment liner to see if the foam hose was still intact, 
despite the ACC working just fine as far as temperatures and fan speeds.  
Amazing!  The original foam hose is still in place and in good condition.  I’ve 
never seen one before, other than in powder form.  Nice.

Went through the contents of the owner’s manual pouch.  I was stunned.  Bought 
at Lokey MB (Clearwater) in 1982, owner’s book stamped for all services up 
until 1999 around 100k, shortly before the PO bought it.  I even found the 
window sticker and predelivery checklist, as well as the meal plate they issued 
with the cars back then to be able to stamp the service orders with the owner’s 
information when the car came in for service.

$29,698.00 MSRP
N/C Becker Europa Radio & Cassette
$829.00 Sliding roof option
$115.00 distribution & delivery

$30.642.00 final price.

Window sticker: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfm9x6ajn2zw3f0/1982%20300D%20Window%20Sticker001.pdf?dl=0

Predelivery Checklist: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1g6boahdq9vbcw/1982%20300D%20Predelivery001.pdf?dl=0

Might do a little more, probably won’t.  My Allen Edmonds have been begging for 
a shine, so I should probably address that.  Planning on driving the car to 
work tomorrow.  Should be fun.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I used brush on contact cement IIRC.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would, but it’s messy since it’s a spray.  That’s why I like the rubber
> cement, especially when I’m just sealing up a small portion of the barrier.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> >
> > I use rubber cement to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the
> door panels.
> >
> > I use 3M spray 77.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would, but it’s messy since it’s a spray.  That’s why I like the rubber 
cement, especially when I’m just sealing up a small portion of the barrier.

Dan


> On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> I use rubber cement to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the door 
> panels.
> 
> I use 3M spray 77.
> 
> -- Jim
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I use rubber cement to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the door
> panels.


I use 3M spray 77.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

One note I forgot about in the lat post - as a data point, I use rubber cement 
to glue the moisture barrier back in place on the door panels.  It’s cheap, 
simple, and holds the plastic in place while allowing you to remove it without 
damage in the future if necessary.

Got the carpets back in and the rear seat bottom cushion installed after all 
got a good cleaning.  Now I can put my brand new MB carpeted floor mats in the 
car, although I really hate to as I don’t want them to get dirty.  I’ll see if 
there’s any ScotchGard around the house I can hit them with first.  I think 
they stopped selling the stuff, but I seem to recall seeing a can on the shelf 
somewhere around the house...

Did the Diesel Purge with a filter change.  Ran it out of an old RedLine Diesel 
Catalyst bottle I had with a couple of pieces of clear hose, which worked 
great.  I’ll have to drive it later tonight to run an errand, so it will be 
interesting to see if there is a noticeable difference in performance or 
running.  It’s been a long time since I’ve used Diesel Purge, so I’m not quite 
sure what to expect.

The Continental radio showed up this afternoon.  I’m going to hold off 
installing it in the W126 and maybe put it in the W123 for a bit. I need to 
check the speakers in the W123 as well - I think they’re the originals, so they 
are probably pretty far gone.  They all work, but the range is pretty limited.  
Part of that could be the Becker Europa that’s in it, too.

Calling it quits for the day on the car.  I might take on the engine mounts 
tomorrow, I’ll decide in the morning.  Transmission filter kit came today, too, 
but I’ll hold off on that until I get the spring kits for the valve body.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Took the car out today for some errands.  It’s such a nice ride and is 
amazingly quick.  I still need to resolve the stacked 2-3 shift so I’ll be 
ordering the B1 and B2 spring kits this week, as I have a filter coming on 
Monday along with some ATF.

Pulled the carpets and scrubbed them. Fortunately, they’re in really good shape 
with minimal wear or dirt.  No surprises underneath any of them, other than the 
handful of change I always seem to find when I clean out a car.  I’m still 
wondering when I’m going to find the car that has a couple of stacks of $100s 
under the back seat…nothing there but $0.52 in change.  Not even a Cheeto. Darn.

Opened up the right rear door to replace the leaking lock actuator.  Door 
interior has never been opened based on the condition of the moisture barrier.  
Cleaned the door panel and armrest with 303, polished all the chrome and 
anodized bits with some rubbing compound.  Tested the actuator and I now have 
locking and unlocking on the door.

Opened up the left rear door to deal with the door check.

I gave the old door check the college try, but couldn’t recover it.  The “cup” 
on the end of the spring and ball cylinder was cracked and even missing some 
little bits on one end, preventing the ball on that end from remaining captive. 
 I tried putting it all back together after cleaning and regreasing, but it 
wouldn’t hold up.  So I got out the new URO door check, greased it heavily and 
installed it.  Works fine, I couldn’t really tell any difference in 
construction from the original one.  Of course I’m sure the quality of the 
metal isn’t as good, but functionally it seems OK.

Cleaned the door bits up as I did on the other and reassembled.  Door opens and 
holds just fine.

Break time to assist with some holiday decoration, then I’ll be heading back 
out to do a Diesel Purge and install a new filter and cigar hose.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Wilton - good to hear from you.

It’s worth at least $7500 now, Andrew.

Dan

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll give you $501 for that old car.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> Yep, another masterpiece.  ATTABOY!
>> 
>> Wilt
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew, I'll give you $520 for that old POS wagon you've been trying to 
unload.   I have a SBC to put in it.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
November 25, 2016 at 10:30 PM
I'll give you $501 for that old car.




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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'll give you $501 for that old car.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

> Yep, another masterpiece.  ATTABOY!
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!
>
>
>
> Photos have been added to the 1982 300D Cleanup folder.  Here’s the one to
>> start with:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v3dwo0hypq4ssn7/1982%20300D%20Clea
>> nup%20Exterior%20Complete%20-%201.jpg?dl=0 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/v3d
>> wo0hypq4ssn7/1982%20300D%20Cleanup%20Exterior%20Complete%20-%201.jpg?dl=0
>> >
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Got a decent start today despite sleeping in until 6:00.
>>>
>>> Grille mounted, front and rear bumpers polished, cleaned and mounted
>>> along with the cleaned end caps and brackets. Cleaned and detailed trunk
>>> liners on both sides, cleaned trunk carpet and freshened.  Removed spare
>>> tire to find it was nearly brand new but has a date code of 2004 AND a nice
>>> little sheet metal screw in the edge of the tread.  It holds air for now
>>> but I’ll be looking for a replacement from CL or one of the local used tire
>>> resellers.
>>>
>>> Touch up paint on the two small rust areas has dried and looks nice - it
>>> really blended in better than I expected.  Now that it’s dry I waxed it and
>>> replaced the trim pieces that cover both areas.  “Red Berries” were already
>>> installed on Wednesday, so it’s was just a matter of popping the trim on
>>> the right rear door and screwing the lower trunk lid trim to the trunk lid.
>>>
>>> No rust anywhere in the trunk but signs of leaking noticed near the
>>> trailing edge of the trunk “ceiling” near the right side hinge.  The rear
>>> windows seal is in such bad shape I’m sure that water has gotten into the
>>> trunk via the failed seal, however, it couldn’t have been much as there’s
>>> no sign of it on the floor or in the spare tire well.  I’m not keen about
>>> the idea, but I am seriously considering replacement of the rear window
>>> seal myself as I can’t find anyone around here that will touch it.  I have
>>> done windows like it a long time ago in my VW and W112 days, so it won’t be
>>> the first time.  Hmm.
>>>
>>> Doing some final checking I found that I must have overfilled the
>>> crankcase slightly when I changed oil last week, so I suctioned about 1/2
>>> quart out. Whoops!
>>>
>>> I replaced the levers on the vacuum switchover valves on the valve
>>> cover, as one was worn away completely and the other was almost gone.
>>> Cleaned the cam of all the old grease and applied fresh Mobil 1 synthetic
>>> grease since I had it handy.
>>>
>>> Took the “whiz nut” off the bolt in the power steering reservoir as it
>>> didn’t belong.  Fortunately the spring was the original one so it was just
>>> a matter of putting everything back together the way it belonged. Not sure
>>> why the whiz nut was there.
>>>
>>> Noticed that the windows had a lot of water spots that I couldn’t clean
>>> off.  Hmm.  Jay O’Brien from the old lists had given me this little
>>> container of some polishing compound called “Nuttin’s Better” that was used
>>> for polishing imperfections out of windshields.  I must have used it up or
>>> lost it in a move, so I started looking for alternatives.  A-hah! Rubbing
>>> compound!
>>>
>>> So I applied rubbing compound to the glass and polished away.  Looks
>>> great and took all of the water spots off the glass, too.  Nice.
>>>
>>> All that’s left for the day is to replace the “Gottlieb Daimler”
>>> signature sticker on the inside of the windshield.  I’ll head out to do
>>> that next, then probably drive over to our private park before sundown to
>>> take some glamour shots.  The stickers can be had from the Classic Center
>>> for around $7.00/each - part number 115 584 08 38.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow I may do motor mounts, as I’ve got a set of Lemförder mounts
>>> UPS just delivered.  I’ll clean carpets and interior tomorrow as well.  I
>>> need to do the power steeri

Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, another masterpiece.  ATTABOY!

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>

To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com>
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!


Photos have been added to the 1982 300D Cleanup folder.  Here’s the one to 
start with:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/v3dwo0hypq4ssn7/1982%20300D%20Cleanup%20Exterior%20Complete%20-%201.jpg?dl=0 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/v3dwo0hypq4ssn7/1982%20300D%20Cleanup%20Exterior%20Complete%20-%201.jpg?dl=0>


Dan



On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Got a decent start today despite sleeping in until 6:00.

Grille mounted, front and rear bumpers polished, cleaned and mounted 
along with the cleaned end caps and brackets. Cleaned and detailed trunk 
liners on both sides, cleaned trunk carpet and freshened.  Removed spare 
tire to find it was nearly brand new but has a date code of 2004 AND a 
nice little sheet metal screw in the edge of the tread.  It holds air for 
now but I’ll be looking for a replacement from CL or one of the local 
used tire resellers.


Touch up paint on the two small rust areas has dried and looks nice - it 
really blended in better than I expected.  Now that it’s dry I waxed it 
and replaced the trim pieces that cover both areas.  “Red Berries” were 
already installed on Wednesday, so it’s was just a matter of popping the 
trim on the right rear door and screwing the lower trunk lid trim to the 
trunk lid.


No rust anywhere in the trunk but signs of leaking noticed near the 
trailing edge of the trunk “ceiling” near the right side hinge.  The rear 
windows seal is in such bad shape I’m sure that water has gotten into the 
trunk via the failed seal, however, it couldn’t have been much as there’s 
no sign of it on the floor or in the spare tire well.  I’m not keen about 
the idea, but I am seriously considering replacement of the rear window 
seal myself as I can’t find anyone around here that will touch it.  I 
have done windows like it a long time ago in my VW and W112 days, so it 
won’t be the first time.  Hmm.


Doing some final checking I found that I must have overfilled the 
crankcase slightly when I changed oil last week, so I suctioned about 1/2 
quart out. Whoops!


I replaced the levers on the vacuum switchover valves on the valve cover, 
as one was worn away completely and the other was almost gone.  Cleaned 
the cam of all the old grease and applied fresh Mobil 1 synthetic grease 
since I had it handy.


Took the “whiz nut” off the bolt in the power steering reservoir as it 
didn’t belong.  Fortunately the spring was the original one so it was 
just a matter of putting everything back together the way it belonged. 
Not sure why the whiz nut was there.


Noticed that the windows had a lot of water spots that I couldn’t clean 
off.  Hmm.  Jay O’Brien from the old lists had given me this little 
container of some polishing compound called “Nuttin’s Better” that was 
used for polishing imperfections out of windshields.  I must have used it 
up or lost it in a move, so I started looking for alternatives.  A-hah! 
Rubbing compound!


So I applied rubbing compound to the glass and polished away.  Looks 
great and took all of the water spots off the glass, too.  Nice.


All that’s left for the day is to replace the “Gottlieb Daimler” 
signature sticker on the inside of the windshield.  I’ll head out to do 
that next, then probably drive over to our private park before sundown to 
take some glamour shots.  The stickers can be had from the Classic Center 
for around $7.00/each - part number 115 584 08 38.


Tomorrow I may do motor mounts, as I’ve got a set of Lemförder mounts UPS 
just delivered.  I’ll clean carpets and interior tomorrow as well.  I 
need to do the power steering fluid and fuel filters along with a Diesel 
Purge, too.  Maybe that will be on Sunday.


Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

One thing I forgot to mention that was nice:

I installed the new check valve in the vacuum lines at the firewall.  After 
moving the car around tonight, I went out to lock it up about 20 minutes later 
and had vacuum!

Love them easy fixes….

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Curley.

This really came out of my use of rubbing compound as a replacement for chrome 
cleaner/polish, which is effectively the same thing.  Rather than buy chrome 
cleaner, I just use 3M rubbing compound and it works great.  I figured it 
couldn’t be any worst than the “Nuttin’s Better” stuff, which was probably just 
powdered silica in a little container.

I have glass cooktop cleaner, too, since we have a glass cooktop.  Maybe I can 
substitute rubbing compound for that as well and save a buck or two…

Dan


> On Nov 25, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used glass cooktop cleaner to clean up a big picture window that was so bad 
> I was ready to pay the $$$ to replace the glass.  It was great and easy.  The 
> window still has age waves (glass is in liquid state) but that is not real 
> bothersome, and adds character!
> 
> Waytago!
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I used glass cooktop cleaner to clean up a big picture window that was 
so bad I was ready to pay the $$$ to replace the glass.  It was great 
and easy.  The window still has age waves (glass is in liquid state) but 
that is not real bothersome, and adds character!


Waytago!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM
Got a decent start today despite sleeping in until 6:00.

Grille mounted, front and rear bumpers polished, cleaned and mounted 
along with the cleaned end caps and brackets. Cleaned and detailed 
trunk liners on both sides, cleaned trunk carpet and freshened. 
Removed spare tire to find it was nearly brand new but has a date code 
of 2004 AND a nice little sheet metal screw in the edge of the tread. 
It holds air for now but I’ll be looking for a replacement from CL or 
one of the local used tire resellers.


Touch up paint on the two small rust areas has dried and looks nice - 
it really blended in better than I expected. Now that it’s dry I waxed 
it and replaced the trim pieces that cover both areas. “Red Berries” 
were already installed on Wednesday, so it’s was just a matter of 
popping the trim on the right rear door and screwing the lower trunk 
lid trim to the trunk lid.


No rust anywhere in the trunk but signs of leaking noticed near the 
trailing edge of the trunk “ceiling” near the right side hinge. The 
rear windows seal is in such bad shape I’m sure that water has gotten 
into the trunk via the failed seal, however, it couldn’t have been 
much as there’s no sign of it on the floor or in the spare tire well. 
I’m not keen about the idea, but I am seriously considering 
replacement of the rear window seal myself as I can’t find anyone 
around here that will touch it. I have done windows like it a long 
time ago in my VW and W112 days, so it won’t be the first time. Hmm.


Doing some final checking I found that I must have overfilled the 
crankcase slightly when I changed oil last week, so I suctioned about 
1/2 quart out. Whoops!


I replaced the levers on the vacuum switchover valves on the valve 
cover, as one was worn away completely and the other was almost gone. 
Cleaned the cam of all the old grease and applied fresh Mobil 1 
synthetic grease since I had it handy.


Took the “whiz nut” off the bolt in the power steering reservoir as it 
didn’t belong. Fortunately the spring was the original one so it was 
just a matter of putting everything back together the way it belonged. 
Not sure why the whiz nut was there.


Noticed that the windows had a lot of water spots that I couldn’t 
clean off. Hmm. Jay O’Brien from the old lists had given me this 
little container of some polishing compound called “Nuttin’s Better” 
that was used for polishing imperfections out of windshields. I must 
have used it up or lost it in a move, so I started looking for 
alternatives. A-hah! Rubbing compound!


So I applied rubbing compound to the glass and polished away. Looks 
great and took all of the water spots off the glass, too. Nice.


All that’s left for the day is to replace the “Gottlieb Daimler” 
signature sticker on the inside of the windshield. I’ll head out to do 
that next, then probably drive over to our private park before sundown 
to take some glamour shots. The stickers can be had from the Classic 
Center for around $7.00/each - part number 115 584 08 38.


Tomorrow I may do motor mounts, as I’ve got a set of Lemförder mounts 
UPS just delivered. I’ll clean carpets and interior tomorrow as well. 
I need to do the power steering fluid and fuel filters along with a 
Diesel Purge, too. Maybe that will be on Sunday.


Dan/Martha
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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 23, 2016 at 4:40 AM
Got the grille polished and ready to install between holiday 
preparations last night. It shined up nicely.


Vacuum check valve arrived in the mail yesterday, too, so I’ll pop 
that into place when I have a minute and hopefully that will put an 
end to the rapidly leaking vacuum issue. The old yellow plastic 
splitter/check valve would let vacuum flow in either direction. The 
new one definitely does not, so I’m pretty comfortable with the diagnosis.


Have to make a run into Tampa for some family medical stuff, which 
will put me about three blocks away from the dealer. I’ll swing by and 
pick up my “load ‘o’ parts” while I’m in the neighborhood. That will 
give me lots more stuff to work with over the Thanksgiving weekend 
while others are suffering from the pains of gluttony….


Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Photos have been added to the 1982 300D Cleanup folder.  Here’s the one to 
start with:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v3dwo0hypq4ssn7/1982%20300D%20Cleanup%20Exterior%20Complete%20-%201.jpg?dl=0
 


Dan



> On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got a decent start today despite sleeping in until 6:00.
> 
> Grille mounted, front and rear bumpers polished, cleaned and mounted along 
> with the cleaned end caps and brackets. Cleaned and detailed trunk liners on 
> both sides, cleaned trunk carpet and freshened.  Removed spare tire to find 
> it was nearly brand new but has a date code of 2004 AND a nice little sheet 
> metal screw in the edge of the tread.  It holds air for now but I’ll be 
> looking for a replacement from CL or one of the local used tire resellers.
> 
> Touch up paint on the two small rust areas has dried and looks nice - it 
> really blended in better than I expected.  Now that it’s dry I waxed it and 
> replaced the trim pieces that cover both areas.  “Red Berries” were already 
> installed on Wednesday, so it’s was just a matter of popping the trim on the 
> right rear door and screwing the lower trunk lid trim to the trunk lid.
> 
> No rust anywhere in the trunk but signs of leaking noticed near the trailing 
> edge of the trunk “ceiling” near the right side hinge.  The rear windows seal 
> is in such bad shape I’m sure that water has gotten into the trunk via the 
> failed seal, however, it couldn’t have been much as there’s no sign of it on 
> the floor or in the spare tire well.  I’m not keen about the idea, but I am 
> seriously considering replacement of the rear window seal myself as I can’t 
> find anyone around here that will touch it.  I have done windows like it a 
> long time ago in my VW and W112 days, so it won’t be the first time.  Hmm.
> 
> Doing some final checking I found that I must have overfilled the crankcase 
> slightly when I changed oil last week, so I suctioned about 1/2 quart out. 
> Whoops!
> 
> I replaced the levers on the vacuum switchover valves on the valve cover, as 
> one was worn away completely and the other was almost gone.  Cleaned the cam 
> of all the old grease and applied fresh Mobil 1 synthetic grease since I had 
> it handy.
> 
> Took the “whiz nut” off the bolt in the power steering reservoir as it didn’t 
> belong.  Fortunately the spring was the original one so it was just a matter 
> of putting everything back together the way it belonged.  Not sure why the 
> whiz nut was there.
> 
> Noticed that the windows had a lot of water spots that I couldn’t clean off.  
> Hmm.  Jay O’Brien from the old lists had given me this little container of 
> some polishing compound called “Nuttin’s Better” that was used for polishing 
> imperfections out of windshields.  I must have used it up or lost it in a 
> move, so I started looking for alternatives.  A-hah!  Rubbing compound!
> 
> So I applied rubbing compound to the glass and polished away.  Looks great 
> and took all of the water spots off the glass, too.  Nice.
> 
> All that’s left for the day is to replace the “Gottlieb Daimler” signature 
> sticker on the inside of the windshield.  I’ll head out to do that next, then 
> probably drive over to our private park before sundown to take some glamour 
> shots.  The stickers can be had from the Classic Center for around $7.00/each 
> - part number 115 584 08 38.
> 
> Tomorrow I may do motor mounts, as I’ve got a set of Lemförder mounts UPS 
> just delivered.  I’ll clean carpets and interior tomorrow as well.  I need to 
> do the power steering fluid and fuel filters along with a Diesel Purge, too.  
> Maybe that will be on Sunday.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ha!  Try 6:00 am, sir.  I usually rise at 4:30-5:00 am, but since it was a day 
off I allowed myself the luxury of sleeping in.

Dan


> On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 6 PM?
> 


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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

6 PM?

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Got a decent start today despite sleeping in until 6:00.
>
> Grille mounted, front and rear bumpers polished, cleaned and mounted along
> with the cleaned end caps and brackets. Cleaned and detailed trunk liners
> on both sides, cleaned trunk carpet and freshened.  Removed spare tire to
> find it was nearly brand new but has a date code of 2004 AND a nice little
> sheet metal screw in the edge of the tread.  It holds air for now but I’ll
> be looking for a replacement from CL or one of the local used tire
> resellers.
>
> Touch up paint on the two small rust areas has dried and looks nice - it
> really blended in better than I expected.  Now that it’s dry I waxed it and
> replaced the trim pieces that cover both areas.  “Red Berries” were already
> installed on Wednesday, so it’s was just a matter of popping the trim on
> the right rear door and screwing the lower trunk lid trim to the trunk lid.
>
> No rust anywhere in the trunk but signs of leaking noticed near the
> trailing edge of the trunk “ceiling” near the right side hinge.  The rear
> windows seal is in such bad shape I’m sure that water has gotten into the
> trunk via the failed seal, however, it couldn’t have been much as there’s
> no sign of it on the floor or in the spare tire well.  I’m not keen about
> the idea, but I am seriously considering replacement of the rear window
> seal myself as I can’t find anyone around here that will touch it.  I have
> done windows like it a long time ago in my VW and W112 days, so it won’t be
> the first time.  Hmm.
>
> Doing some final checking I found that I must have overfilled the
> crankcase slightly when I changed oil last week, so I suctioned about 1/2
> quart out. Whoops!
>
> I replaced the levers on the vacuum switchover valves on the valve cover,
> as one was worn away completely and the other was almost gone.  Cleaned the
> cam of all the old grease and applied fresh Mobil 1 synthetic grease since
> I had it handy.
>
> Took the “whiz nut” off the bolt in the power steering reservoir as it
> didn’t belong.  Fortunately the spring was the original one so it was just
> a matter of putting everything back together the way it belonged.  Not sure
> why the whiz nut was there.
>
> Noticed that the windows had a lot of water spots that I couldn’t clean
> off.  Hmm.  Jay O’Brien from the old lists had given me this little
> container of some polishing compound called “Nuttin’s Better” that was used
> for polishing imperfections out of windshields.  I must have used it up or
> lost it in a move, so I started looking for alternatives.  A-hah!  Rubbing
> compound!
>
> So I applied rubbing compound to the glass and polished away.  Looks great
> and took all of the water spots off the glass, too.  Nice.
>
> All that’s left for the day is to replace the “Gottlieb Daimler” signature
> sticker on the inside of the windshield.  I’ll head out to do that next,
> then probably drive over to our private park before sundown to take some
> glamour shots.  The stickers can be had from the Classic Center for around
> $7.00/each - part number 115 584 08 38.
>
> Tomorrow I may do motor mounts, as I’ve got a set of Lemförder mounts UPS
> just delivered.  I’ll clean carpets and interior tomorrow as well.  I need
> to do the power steering fluid and fuel filters along with a Diesel Purge,
> too.  Maybe that will be on Sunday.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got a decent start today despite sleeping in until 6:00.

Grille mounted, front and rear bumpers polished, cleaned and mounted along with 
the cleaned end caps and brackets. Cleaned and detailed trunk liners on both 
sides, cleaned trunk carpet and freshened.  Removed spare tire to find it was 
nearly brand new but has a date code of 2004 AND a nice little sheet metal 
screw in the edge of the tread.  It holds air for now but I’ll be looking for a 
replacement from CL or one of the local used tire resellers.

Touch up paint on the two small rust areas has dried and looks nice - it really 
blended in better than I expected.  Now that it’s dry I waxed it and replaced 
the trim pieces that cover both areas.  “Red Berries” were already installed on 
Wednesday, so it’s was just a matter of popping the trim on the right rear door 
and screwing the lower trunk lid trim to the trunk lid.

No rust anywhere in the trunk but signs of leaking noticed near the trailing 
edge of the trunk “ceiling” near the right side hinge.  The rear windows seal 
is in such bad shape I’m sure that water has gotten into the trunk via the 
failed seal, however, it couldn’t have been much as there’s no sign of it on 
the floor or in the spare tire well.  I’m not keen about the idea, but I am 
seriously considering replacement of the rear window seal myself as I can’t 
find anyone around here that will touch it.  I have done windows like it a long 
time ago in my VW and W112 days, so it won’t be the first time.  Hmm.

Doing some final checking I found that I must have overfilled the crankcase 
slightly when I changed oil last week, so I suctioned about 1/2 quart out. 
Whoops!

I replaced the levers on the vacuum switchover valves on the valve cover, as 
one was worn away completely and the other was almost gone.  Cleaned the cam of 
all the old grease and applied fresh Mobil 1 synthetic grease since I had it 
handy.

Took the “whiz nut” off the bolt in the power steering reservoir as it didn’t 
belong.  Fortunately the spring was the original one so it was just a matter of 
putting everything back together the way it belonged.  Not sure why the whiz 
nut was there.

Noticed that the windows had a lot of water spots that I couldn’t clean off.  
Hmm.  Jay O’Brien from the old lists had given me this little container of some 
polishing compound called “Nuttin’s Better” that was used for polishing 
imperfections out of windshields.  I must have used it up or lost it in a move, 
so I started looking for alternatives.  A-hah!  Rubbing compound!

So I applied rubbing compound to the glass and polished away.  Looks great and 
took all of the water spots off the glass, too.  Nice.

All that’s left for the day is to replace the “Gottlieb Daimler” signature 
sticker on the inside of the windshield.  I’ll head out to do that next, then 
probably drive over to our private park before sundown to take some glamour 
shots.  The stickers can be had from the Classic Center for around $7.00/each - 
part number 115 584 08 38.

Tomorrow I may do motor mounts, as I’ve got a set of Lemförder mounts UPS just 
delivered.  I’ll clean carpets and interior tomorrow as well.  I need to do the 
power steering fluid and fuel filters along with a Diesel Purge, too.  Maybe 
that will be on Sunday.

Dan/Martha
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got the grille polished and ready to install between holiday preparations last 
night.  It shined up nicely.

Vacuum check valve arrived in the mail yesterday, too, so I’ll pop that into 
place when I have a minute and hopefully that will put an end to the rapidly 
leaking vacuum issue.  The old yellow plastic splitter/check valve would let 
vacuum flow in either direction.  The new one definitely does not, so I’m 
pretty comfortable with the diagnosis.

Have to make a run into Tampa for some family medical stuff, which will put me 
about three blocks away from the dealer.  I’ll swing by and pick up my “load 
‘o’ parts” while I’m in the neighborhood. That will give me lots more stuff to 
work with over the Thanksgiving weekend while others are suffering from the 
pains of gluttony….

Dan


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> While running between preparations for Thanksgiving dinner, some family 
> medical issues and house cleaning for the upcoming holiday, I was able to get 
> the “red berries” installed in the body panels, the side trim strips 
> installed - except for the right rear door where the rust repair is - I left 
> that off so I can touch it up after I get the paint tomorrow along with the 
> one on the trunk lid for the same reason.
> 
> Taillights got reinstalled along with the trim pieces below them.  I have the 
> front grille sitting on the table ready to be cleaned and polished between 
> other stuff.
> 
> By tomorrow, if I don't keel over from all of this madness, all I’ll have 
> left is to install the bumpers and grille.  And then the other cars can get 
> back into the garage, which they’ll be happy about.  Although it was nice to 
> go out early this morning, drive the W126 which started right up after a 
> short glow, and see that the rear window defroster is working…
> 
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

While running between preparations for Thanksgiving dinner, some family medical 
issues and house cleaning for the upcoming holiday, I was able to get the “red 
berries” installed in the body panels, the side trim strips installed - except 
for the right rear door where the rust repair is - I left that off so I can 
touch it up after I get the paint tomorrow along with the one on the trunk lid 
for the same reason.

Taillights got reinstalled along with the trim pieces below them.  I have the 
front grille sitting on the table ready to be cleaned and polished between 
other stuff.

By tomorrow, if I don't keel over from all of this madness, all I’ll have left 
is to install the bumpers and grille.  And then the other cars can get back 
into the garage, which they’ll be happy about.  Although it was nice to go out 
early this morning, drive the W126 which started right up after a short glow, 
and see that the rear window defroster is working…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would even do it without the beer, at least not until I was finished with the 
car.

Dan


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should fly them both in and ply them with local b**r.  They would
> gladly do their work for free.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wish my 81 240D could get the rust repairs by Dimitri the Great and then
>> have the Martha treatment from Dan the Great!Nice looking 300D so far!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You should fly them both in and ply them with local b**r.  They would
gladly do their work for free.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wish my 81 240D could get the rust repairs by Dimitri the Great and then
> have the Martha treatment from Dan the Great!Nice looking 300D so far!
>
>
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Wish my 81 240D could get the rust repairs by Dimitri the Great and then 
have the Martha treatment from Dan the Great!Nice looking 300D so far!





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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Costco was busy tonight, but no worse than maybe a busy weekend day.

Got back to the ranch and started in.  Got the bottom door trim, trunk badges, 
cowl panels, antenna grommet, door handles and windshield washer jets all 
installed, called it a night.

More tomorrow.

Dan

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> i went to Costco earlier, it was nearly insane.  Not quite as bad as before 
> the hurricane, but it was getting there.  I think there are a lot of Yankees 
> in town who are picking stuff up for the hol.  They were exhibiting Yankee 
> behavior.  It has been worse out here around me the last coupla days, I think 
> a lot of them are here for the week.
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

$0.50 acrylic craft paint from WallyWorld.  Hundreds of shades and cheap.  
Small brush, let it flow into the grooves, use a damp paper towel to carefully 
wipe the paint off the top.

Make a mistake?  Wipe it off, do it again.  If there’s a little overflow, let 
it dry and scrape it off with your fingernail.

Dan

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 9:23 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Dan has a much smoother hand than I do.  I did touch up to the badges using 
> nail polish.  It looked far too stark and outside the lines a little.  I 
> should have etched some to get it to stick better
> 
> clay
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[clay via Mercedes]

Dan has a much smoother hand than I do.  I did touch up to the badges using 
nail polish.  It looked far too stark and outside the lines a little.  I should 
have etched some to get it to stick better

clay

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You’re an extraordinary ignoramus?  
> 
> (Sorry, you walked into that one!)
> 
> I’m not dealing with a concours car here.  Something I want to look as nice 
> as the day it rolled off the boat.  The options are such that I could buy a 
> new one, which would be stupid expensive, or just touch mine up so it looks 
> nice.
> 
> This is a run of the mill, standard as they come, basic driver quality 300D.  
> I am not trying to make it concours level or to even come close.  Not sure 
> that what I’m doing breaks any conventions or is so abhorrent that people 
> couldn’t imagine doing something like this.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> I never heard of anyone doing this to a badge - and I am an MBCA 
>> multiple-concours winner for a W108 and aW109, sedans, and for a W111 
>> coupe..  Not to brag or anything, but just so you know I am no ordinary 
>> ignoramus.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Actin' like a Yankee!  Whatcha think?Silly Wabbit!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
November 21, 2016 at 5:27 PM
Yankee behavior? You mean like what?



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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yankee behavior?  You mean like what?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:36:02 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Wait for it, Wilton….I should have it all together by Wednesday.
> >
> > The car, that is.
>
> Don't be like the fellow who, when he finally got it all together, forgot
> where he put it.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:36:02 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Wait for it, Wilton….I should have it all together by Wednesday.
> 
> The car, that is.

Don't be like the fellow who, when he finally got it all together, forgot
where he put it.


Craig

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[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

i went to Costco earlier, it was nearly insane.  Not quite as bad as 
before the hurricane, but it was getting there.  I think there are a lot 
of Yankees in town who are picking stuff up for the hol.  They were 
exhibiting Yankee behavior.  It has been worse out here around me the 
last coupla days, I think a lot of them are here for the week.


--FT


On 11/21/16 5:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

A respite while I run by Costco, and when I return, reassembly begins!

Dan


--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Waxing is complete.  Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845 applied.

A respite while I run by Costco, and when I return, reassembly begins!

Dan


> On Nov 21, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wait for it, Wilton….I should have it all together by Wednesday.
> 
> The car, that is.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 3:07 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Only one thing I can say - "Wow!"
>> 
>> W


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wait for it, Wilton….I should have it all together by Wednesday.

The car, that is.

Dan


> On Nov 21, 2016, at 3:07 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Only one thing I can say - "Wow!"
> 
> W
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!
> 
> 
>> Finished the polishing at lunch.  Rolled it out into the sun to warm up in 
>> anticipation of waxing when work is over.  Then the reassembly!
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hdc7u46wlq5l987/AAAltLDK-AkYXkRX_izNQT3Oa?dl=0
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Only one thing I can say - "Wow!"

W

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Finished the polishing at lunch.  Rolled it out into the sun to warm up in 
anticipation of waxing when work is over.  Then the reassembly!


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You and I are very different.  My motto is "why do it right the first
time?"  This is n oddly effective philosophy so long as it doesn't apply to
life or death decisions, such as those required approaching stop signs or
red lights.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No obsession.  I just see it as a detail item that’s simple and easy to
> enhance or restore.  Five minutes and a few drops of paint and it’s as good
> as new again.
>
> As Dad always said, “If you’re going to do it, do it right."
>
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Not abhorrent, just unconventional.  I used to obsess over engine clamps.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No obsession.  I just see it as a detail item that’s simple and easy to enhance 
or restore.  Five minutes and a few drops of paint and it’s as good as new 
again.

As Dad always said, “If you’re going to do it, do it right."



> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Not abhorrent, just unconventional.  I used to obsess over engine clamps.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not abhorrent, just unconventional.  I used to obsess over engine clamps.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You’re an extraordinary ignoramus?  
>
> (Sorry, you walked into that one!)
>
> I’m not dealing with a concours car here.  Something I want to look as
> nice as the day it rolled off the boat.  The options are such that I could
> buy a new one, which would be stupid expensive, or just touch mine up so it
> looks nice.
>
> This is a run of the mill, standard as they come, basic driver quality
> 300D.  I am not trying to make it concours level or to even come close.
> Not sure that what I’m doing breaks any conventions or is so abhorrent that
> people couldn’t imagine doing something like this.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > I never heard of anyone doing this to a badge - and I am an MBCA
> multiple-concours winner for a W108 and aW109, sedans, and for a W111
> coupe..  Not to brag or anything, but just so you know I am no ordinary
> ignoramus.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You’re an extraordinary ignoramus?  

(Sorry, you walked into that one!)

I’m not dealing with a concours car here.  Something I want to look as nice as 
the day it rolled off the boat.  The options are such that I could buy a new 
one, which would be stupid expensive, or just touch mine up so it looks nice.

This is a run of the mill, standard as they come, basic driver quality 300D.  I 
am not trying to make it concours level or to even come close.  Not sure that 
what I’m doing breaks any conventions or is so abhorrent that people couldn’t 
imagine doing something like this.

Dan


> On Nov 21, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I never heard of anyone doing this to a badge - and I am an MBCA 
> multiple-concours winner for a W108 and aW109, sedans, and for a W111 coupe.. 
>  Not to brag or anything, but just so you know I am no ordinary ignoramus.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I never heard of anyone doing this to a badge - and I am an MBCA
multiple-concours winner for a W108 and aW109, sedans, and for a W111
coupe..  Not to brag or anything, but just so you know I am no ordinary
ignoramus.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Finished the polishing at lunch.  Rolled it out into the sun to warm up in
> anticipation of waxing when work is over.  Then the reassembly!
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hdc7u46wlq5l987/AAAltLDK-AkYXkRX_izNQT3Oa?dl=0
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Finished the polishing at lunch.  Rolled it out into the sun to warm up in 
anticipation of waxing when work is over.  Then the reassembly!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hdc7u46wlq5l987/AAAltLDK-AkYXkRX_izNQT3Oa?dl=0

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ok as I thought.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 21, 2016 1:00 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> It’s blue, the original color, or something darned close to it.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is that black or blue on the radiator  badge?
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 2005 E320 4 matic
> > Wickford RI
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s blue, the original color, or something darned close to it.

Dan


> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is that black or blue on the radiator  badge?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4 matic
> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Is that black or blue on the radiator  badge?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 21, 2016 12:53 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> You can look at it two ways:
>
> Leave the faded and missing paint badges for “patina”; or,
>
> Repaint the badges to look new as the car will.
>
> I prefer the new look.
>
> Now if I was cleaning up a mid-70s pillarless coupe, that’s a whole
> ‘nother thing.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Restoring a badge is like improving the calligraphy on someone else's
> birth certificate.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > What? Painting my badges on a break?
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  > wrote:
> > >
> > > OMG I had no idea that was even legal!
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You can look at it two ways:

Leave the faded and missing paint badges for “patina”; or,

Repaint the badges to look new as the car will.

I prefer the new look.

Now if I was cleaning up a mid-70s pillarless coupe, that’s a whole ‘nother 
thing.

Dan

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Restoring a badge is like improving the calligraphy on someone else's  birth 
> certificate.  
> 
> ;)
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> What? Painting my badges on a break?
> 
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  > > wrote:
> >
> > OMG I had no idea that was even legal!
> >

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Restoring a badge is like improving the calligraphy on someone else's
birth certificate.

;)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What? Painting my badges on a break?
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > OMG I had no idea that was even legal!
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Since I’m working from home today, there’s not a lot I can do until work
> is over.
> >
> > That being said, I did find about 10 minutes during a break to paint the
> accent lines on the trunk badges.  A little flat black on the trim and it’s
> as new!  The radiator badge will be next.
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sxm4gqygdprzim/1982%20300D%
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What? Painting my badges on a break?


> On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> OMG I had no idea that was even legal!
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Since I’m working from home today, there’s not a lot I can do until work is 
> over.
> 
> That being said, I did find about 10 minutes during a break to paint the 
> accent lines on the trunk badges.  A little flat black on the trim and it’s 
> as new!  The radiator badge will be next.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sxm4gqygdprzim/1982%20300D%20Cleanup%20-%2041.jpg?dl=0
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OMG I had no idea that was even legal!

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Since I’m working from home today, there’s not a lot I can do until work
> is over.
>
> That being said, I did find about 10 minutes during a break to paint the
> accent lines on the trunk badges.  A little flat black on the trim and it’s
> as new!  The radiator badge will be next.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sxm4gqygdprzim/1982%20300D%
> 20Cleanup%20-%2041.jpg?dl=0
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Since I’m working from home today, there’s not a lot I can do until work is 
over.

That being said, I did find about 10 minutes during a break to paint the accent 
lines on the trunk badges.  A little flat black on the trim and it’s as new!  
The radiator badge will be next.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sxm4gqygdprzim/1982%20300D%20Cleanup%20-%2041.jpg?dl=0

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s in transit.  Shipped on the 12th, waiting for dispatch to the States 
according to DHL and the USPS.  Seems like this stuff drops out of sight for a 
few days then suddenly reappears on this side of the pond.  More as I know it.

Dan


> On Nov 20, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan, how about the Continental radio?  I'm probably going to get the CD 
> playing version for SWMBO's car. 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
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