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I adopted a stray dog. He kept chasing cars.. so I sent him to dog obedience school.. Came home and he kept chasing cars, so, I sent him to law school.. Now, he only chases ambulances.. On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 6:42 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > yup they are

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yup  they are incapable of self policing the schools to limit numbers.   They are incapable of self-policing their ranks to eliminate the frauds and incompetent. Curt Raymond via Mercedes February 10, 2020 at 4:35 PM Isn't that a bit self fulfilling? If there

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if you read my post, I was speaking specifically about ones I have had dealing with in a certain time period.   Dan, if you are going to preach at me, don't make false accusations.   I said nothing about ambulance chasers. Dan Penoff via Mercedes February 10,

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I think, at least here in Canada, that one of the big reasons for too many lawyers is that there continues to be a belief that it is a good career that will generate above average income. I doubt it is true in many cases, but the option seems to seem better than so many other potential

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Supply and demand --- On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Isn't that a bit self fulfilling? If there weren't so many lawyers it'd > be harder to lawyer up and sue people. > -Curt > > On Monday, February 10, 2020, 5:23:06 PM EST, Dan

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Isn't that a bit self fulfilling? If there weren't so many lawyers it'd be harder to lawyer up and sue people. -Curt On Monday, February 10, 2020, 5:23:06 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: People need to quite perpetuating stereotypes like this. I’ve had a very good friend for

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People need to quite perpetuating stereotypes like this. I’ve had a very good friend for over 20 years that is a real estate lawyer, and a straight shooter if I ever met one. He’ll tell you right up front if he think’s you’re wrong or making a bad deal. I’ve seen him turn down potential clients

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it certainly has not been any shyster I've dealt with in the past 30 years or so.   They've only sucked out huge sums of cash with no positive result. The last one, and perhaps the one before, may be successfully sued, but there seems to be no honest and competent shysters left, and the ones

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Touche, Randy. Even an expensive divorce lawyer may turn out to be a bargain over the long run... On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 2:53 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 07/02/2020 10:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > > Good one!What do you call 20,000

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On 07/02/2020 10:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Good one!    What do you call 20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the Marianas Trench? BUT, who are you going to call when your butt is against the wall? Who else, apart from maybe your Mamma, is going to stand up in front of the Judge

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A good question without an easy answer. Did the client know the witness was unprepared? Did that happen because the client wanted to limit the cost of the litigation and took the chance that they could get away with it? Who knows? The expert witness was the accountant for the plaintiff. Can

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and insurance agents, maybe a successful real estate agent or two, but I'm being redundant again. dan--- via Mercedes February 8, 2020 at 4:25 PM It wasn’t what was going on there, it was that the place would be jammed with doctors, lawyers and bankers. -D __

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It wasn’t what was going on there, it was that the place would be jammed with doctors, lawyers and bankers. -D > On Feb 8, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Why - what was gong there? I bet it wouldn't shock us today. > >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes

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Why - what was gong there? I bet it wouldn't shock us today. On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My Dad was a commercial banker. Not into golf, fraternal organizations or > socializing, but he did it as required. > > When I saw the TV series

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My Dad was a commercial banker. Not into golf, fraternal organizations or socializing, but he did it as required. When I saw the TV series “Mad Men” I about blew a gasket, as Don Draper’s office was the epitome of my Dad’s office. The drink cart, the furnishings, glass walls, etc., etc. I

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Winner! Craig via Mercedes February 7, 2020 at 10:59 PM On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 22:54:29 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes A start. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 22:54:29 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Good one!    What do you call 20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the > Marianas Trench? A start. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

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Good one!    What do you call 20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the Marianas Trench? G Mann via Mercedes February 7, 2020 at 10:02 PM Lawyer suddenly becomes aware that he is dead and in front of St Peter for final judgement. Immediately he makes his case that he

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Non litigator SWMBA will work until 2200 most nights, as she has spent many other daylight hours engaged in administrative tasks. Then there are the Very early phone calls (being 5 hours off from NYC) that occur, as well as a few Aussies and Asians who like the economic odds the mineral

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Lawyer suddenly becomes aware that he is dead and in front of St Peter for final judgement. Immediately he makes his case that he is to young to die, it's not possible that he has lived his allotted time, there must be a mistake, etc etc... St. Peter asks the question... just how old are you

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so, in Canada, is the client in this case able to collect from the lawyers for malfeasance, or incompetence? Randy Bennell via Mercedes February 7, 2020 at 2:21 PM I wonder if the reference to working late in the old movies and tv shows might have been an effort

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A good moral differentiation. LOL. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 11:28 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You can now buy booze here on Sunday, noon until 8:00pm. > > Car dealers are still closed on Sunday. > > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: >

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I lived through that business era and posit this. It was total Hollywood hype. The workers of that era were WW2 vets who had delayed their family and education to win a war and live through it. They came home, got married, got degrees, or just went to work making life happen. They had families,

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I wonder if the reference to working late in the old movies and tv shows might have been an effort to show that these folks were hard working and successful? With a show like Perry Mason, I don't think that portraying him as working in the evenings would be unusual. He was a litigator - a court

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You can now buy booze here on Sunday, noon until 8:00pm. Car dealers are still closed on Sunday. Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > Indiana still has them, although they’re quite relaxed compared to when I was > a kid. > > When we moved to Wisconsin in 1988 we were amazed at the difference.

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Liquor sales are now legal in indiana on Sunday from noon to four or something like that. Doesn't affect me at all since beer or wine was available at any place that sold food and bars have been open on Sunday night for decades. Canada still had no stores open on Sunday except in border towns

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Indiana still has them, although they’re quite relaxed compared to when I was a kid. When we moved to Wisconsin in 1988 we were amazed at the difference. In Wisconsin you can buy pretty much anything in the way of liquor at grocery and convenience stores, and all between the hours of 6:00 am

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Yes PA was known for its,blue laws Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 8:54 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hell, in Philly a lot of stores didn't even open on Sunday, and bars closed > down by 1 AM. Blue laws, don'chew know. > > That didn't

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Hell, in Philly a lot of stores didn't even open on Sunday, and bars closed down by 1 AM. Blue laws, don'chew know. That didn't change until the late 70s, when the courts struck most of the blue laws down. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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I know for sure most insurance bidness was conducted in the evenings when folks were home. SWMBO remembers the ins agent coming in the evening, and I do too. Family businesses were available when the people were.   We were "Open" whenever someone drove in.   After my grandparents died, my

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So it seem that what I have observed in such entertainment vehicles as Perry Mason (and others) is that the idea that people were conducting business on a regular basis at late hours at this period in history is a construct of the media. I often wondered if this wasn’t the case. Now I know.

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I don't know but i grew up in the country so we milked cows, ate dinner, went to bed & got up very early to milk the cows again. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 7:06 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > To clarify, it wasn’t just on Perry Mason I have seen this - it’s been on

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To clarify, it wasn’t just on Perry Mason I have seen this - it’s been on other programs of the same time period and in movies as well. -D > On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't think people conducted business late more in the 50s than today. >

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Did you see it on TV? Enough said ... On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:27 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't think people conducted business late more in the 50s than today. > Perry and other lawyers often deal with people on the fringes of society, > so not

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I don't think people conducted business late more in the 50s than today. Perry and other lawyers often deal with people on the fringes of society, so not typical of the normals of that period. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of

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I don't think the men ever took off their suits and ties either, they'd sit around in the evening in full business dress, well maybe swap the jacket for a cardigan.  Maybe they were anticipating that need for a 9PM bidness meeting, then finally like 11PM they'd go put on their full pajamas and

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On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 17:48:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Was this truly the case? Did business people conduct business or > meetings in the evenings, that is, things that we might find typical to > do during the “normal” business day? > > I’ve often opined as to whether or not this

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My guess was that they were catering to those with full time day jobs they couldn't leave - meet them after dinner and the kids were put to bed. Otherwise, it makes a good story ... On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Monkey bidness

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Monkey bidness meeting, plausible deniability! -_FT On 2/6/20 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: As I’m just a touch younger than would have been necessary to directly experience it, I’m wondering if any of our slightly older members might want to offer their observations regarding