Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser?
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 03:41:24PM -0700, Bob Rentfro wrote: It appears the Challenger will rock. They will make the Chargers and the fellers that bought one look silly. There's a guy on a mopar list running a 13.1 @ 102ish with an SRT-8. Might look silly, but that's not shabby for a dead stock four door. K
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Curt, As far as I can recall, they were straight cut right up to the 85 model change date on the 4x series. The 6x and 7x series were helical cut and therefore MUCH quieter! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
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Funny you should mention the Challenger, I was lucky enough to snap some pics at the Chicago Auto Show. all I can say is.. awwsome!! 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:36:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? Can't help you with Rover experience aside from mentioning that a friend of a friend put a 350 in one. Your everything old is new again comment is poignant. I remember not too long ago that the big old muscle cars were much berated and there was talk of some Washington legislation that would have them all crushed. Seems funny now that one of the most desirable things is new cars that are mock old cars. The Mustang, Thunderbird, and this Land Criuser, to name a few attempt to look just like their predecessors. I'm greatly disappointed that when Chrysler finally brought back the Charger, it looks nothing like one, and is in fact ugly. On the other hand, have you seen the Challenger concept car? Brian 83 240D On 4/12/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything old is new again. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Based on the 4Runner so bigger than the original I'd think. I'd surely love to have about an '80 FJ. One downside that springs to mind immediately if you regularly haul people is the rear jumpseats. I saw an article once about putting a later model 4 banger in one in place of the low compression, low horsepower I6. They said it had more power and much better mileage with the 4. On a slightly related note theres a '72 Land Cruiser at a local lot which my wife has fallen in love with. Its in very good shape, I took some time to crawl around under it and the frame is solid with good paint. Our Dodge Dakota is going to need replacing in the next 1-3 years (185k with the rust monster encroaching) and I'm into cool vehicles like the cruiser plus my wife only drives a few miles a day. Anybody got Rover experience? -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:54:21 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. Brian 83 240D - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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Yup. That's it. Thanks. I'm not a real fan of SUVs, but I must say that that looks pretty cool. What powerplants does it offer? Brian On 4/12/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. That was probably a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Basically a 4Runner under the retro styling, I believe. (Which gives it considerably more rock-crawling cred than the Blazer-in-drag baby Hummers.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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For the USA, just a big gas V6, 4 liters or thereabouts, the standard one found in Toyota's other compact trucks and SUVs. I imagine the rest of the world can also get a four-cylinder gas engine or a turbodiesel of some kind. Sigh. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. That's it. Thanks. I'm not a real fan of SUVs, but I must say that that looks pretty cool. What powerplants does it offer? Brian On 4/12/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. That was probably a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Basically a 4Runner under the retro styling, I believe. (Which gives it considerably more rock-crawling cred than the Blazer-in-drag baby Hummers.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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The diesel version is supposed to be available in the US as well. Four Wheeler mag just did a write up on them and had a diesel to test. Mike - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? For the USA, just a big gas V6, 4 liters or thereabouts, the standard one found in Toyota's other compact trucks and SUVs. I imagine the rest of the world can also get a four-cylinder gas engine or a turbodiesel of some kind. Sigh. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. That's it. Thanks. I'm not a real fan of SUVs, but I must say that that looks pretty cool. What powerplants does it offer? Brian On 4/12/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. That was probably a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Basically a 4Runner under the retro styling, I believe. (Which gives it considerably more rock-crawling cred than the Blazer-in-drag baby Hummers.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Everything old is new again. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Based on the 4Runner so bigger than the original I'd think. I'd surely love to have about an '80 FJ. One downside that springs to mind immediately if you regularly haul people is the rear jumpseats. I saw an article once about putting a later model 4 banger in one in place of the low compression, low horsepower I6. They said it had more power and much better mileage with the 4. On a slightly related note theres a '72 Land Cruiser at a local lot which my wife has fallen in love with. Its in very good shape, I took some time to crawl around under it and the frame is solid with good paint. Our Dodge Dakota is going to need replacing in the next 1-3 years (185k with the rust monster encroaching) and I'm into cool vehicles like the cruiser plus my wife only drives a few miles a day. Anybody got Rover experience? -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:54:21 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. Brian 83 240D - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 12 13:39:12 2006 Received: from web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTfYr-0001av-JE for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:39:12 + Received: (qmail 60480 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Apr 2006 13:39:02 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HKkqnPaRx585h3lxY6XcldRDrCehqMeE6PxrdnV7PXkXlwqLLPLsyvuoD2ZD/CILC2qHas7QjMBrRGPHm7/5YnaaC/6Ef49FcAv9t5xxag6YKFQku8PEZgMlx9MHYgxWo174O4ILnMVXdoIwMBfWs1Rnso2uGwZnXTcBf4l4sA4= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 06:39:01 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 300D MPGs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:39:12 - Hi Larry, I'm seeing similar results in my 190D, once I get some pesky fuel leaks tracked down I expect it to settle down around 40mpg. The thermostat makes a HUGE difference. When I first got my 240D it was running cool and bringing in around 24mpg the best tank ever at that point was 27mpg. With a good t-stat the average went up to about 28mpg with the best tank ever an outstanding (for a 240D anyway) 32.7mpg. I never understood why but I got consistantly worse mileage with snowtires on, I went from around 29mpg average to 28mpg average. Thats averaged over a year with each set of tires. ~40,000 miles total. The car was a beater so I just ran the snows all year. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:41:15 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] W124 300D MPGs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - Since buying my '91 300D 2.5T in mid Feb I've been checking the mileage carefully. It started around 25 and slowly increased as we put miles on it (it only had 100k when we bought it - or 6750/year average) the more its been driven the better it gets. Also, I recenty changed the t'stat (along with the ATF/filter, serpentine belt and coolant) the mileage is now at 32. I believe the t'stat was responsible for the bulk of this jump. The tank was 1/2 full when I changed the t'stat, etc so the mileage
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Curt, Wait until you take one out for a drive before loving it! The transmission has straight cut gears and they are VERY noisy! I mean you have to shout to be heard, noisy. The are also a short wheelbase and you feel every bump. Don't get me wrong, I used to drive a BJ70 and a BJ42 which are the diesel versions. In the BJ70 with the pnuematic driver's seat you were still going over bumps like you were on a teeter-totter. Tough as nails though! I used to berate customers that said they had a Toyota Jeep. I'd say, A Jeep is for going offroad in your backyard AFTER you've cut the grass hgahahahaha I digress. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D
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Hmph, I'll believe it when I see it. That would be the first diesel Toyota sold in the USA in what, 20 years? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 4/12/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The diesel version is supposed to be available in the US as well. Four Wheeler mag just did a write up on them and had a diesel to test. Mike - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? For the USA, just a big gas V6, 4 liters or thereabouts, the standard one found in Toyota's other compact trucks and SUVs. I imagine the rest of the world can also get a four-cylinder gas engine or a turbodiesel of some kind. Sigh. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. That's it. Thanks. I'm not a real fan of SUVs, but I must say that that looks pretty cool. What powerplants does it offer? Brian On 4/12/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/11/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. That was probably a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Basically a 4Runner under the retro styling, I believe. (Which gives it considerably more rock-crawling cred than the Blazer-in-drag baby Hummers.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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The last diesel Toyotas in the US would be the 84 Camry TD, and possibly as far up as the 87 LN51 pickup with the 2.4TD. Not sure when they stopped the diesel Corollamaybe 84. In Canada we had the diesel Landcruiser in the wagin version until 87 and in the two door until 89 (?) The US NEVER had a diesel Landcruiser; and cruiser in the US with an original diesel engine came from Canada or elsewhere. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D
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It appears the Challenger will rock. They will make the Chargers and the fellers that bought one look silly. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 151K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? Can't help you with Rover experience aside from mentioning that a friend of a friend put a 350 in one. Your everything old is new again comment is poignant. I remember not too long ago that the big old muscle cars were much berated and there was talk of some Washington legislation that would have them all crushed. Seems funny now that one of the most desirable things is new cars that are mock old cars. The Mustang, Thunderbird, and this Land Criuser, to name a few attempt to look just like their predecessors. I'm greatly disappointed that when Chrysler finally brought back the Charger, it looks nothing like one, and is in fact ugly. On the other hand, have you seen the Challenger concept car? Brian 83 240D On 4/12/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything old is new again. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Based on the 4Runner so bigger than the original I'd think. I'd surely love to have about an '80 FJ. One downside that springs to mind immediately if you regularly haul people is the rear jumpseats. I saw an article once about putting a later model 4 banger in one in place of the low compression, low horsepower I6. They said it had more power and much better mileage with the 4. On a slightly related note theres a '72 Land Cruiser at a local lot which my wife has fallen in love with. Its in very good shape, I took some time to crawl around under it and the frame is solid with good paint. Our Dodge Dakota is going to need replacing in the next 1-3 years (185k with the rust monster encroaching) and I'm into cool vehicles like the cruiser plus my wife only drives a few miles a day. Anybody got Rover experience? -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:54:21 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. Brian 83 240D - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Are the later ones straight gears too? I thought that went out with the 3spd. I have driven them. I very nearly bought a beautiful '82 years ago. Bright yellow, 33 tires which are the max I'd ever consider. I didn't buy it because I'd just finished highschool and was fortunate to have parents that helped prevent me from being totally foolish. It'd have been fun but totally impractical for where I was in life. Anyway, I didn't consider it all that loud... -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:45:41 -0400 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt, Wait until you take one out for a drive before loving it! The transmission has straight cut gears and they are VERY noisy! I mean you have to shout to be heard, noisy. The are also a short wheelbase and you feel every bump. Don't get me wrong, I used to drive a BJ70 and a BJ42 which are the diesel versions. In the BJ70 with the pnuematic driver's seat you were still going over bumps like you were on a teeter-totter. Tough as nails though! I used to berate customers that said they had a Toyota Jeep. I'd say, A Jeep is for going offroad in your backyard AFTER you've cut the grass hgahahahaha I digress. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 12 22:48:32 2006 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTo8R-0008Tb-7k for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:48:32 + Received: (qmail 3327 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Apr 2006 22:48:23 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vUx9kyiyRmN3CBrhbpfWjRW00CJl3PjmnUlTvbw3NoVXU6lyLL2BidctXMWZKGYb+UqknoqtJkCWQbhPZfdy2AKh7UB7Pj/xDFTpkOCwGl3JNfpH7BkDR+eNNHY6g6TLz8pOtEUhpYCv4BTAERtn4YYG0CSs7KltXzYBCikv1tU= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [71.232.75.128] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:48:23 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:48:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:48:32 - I somehow sidetracked my own post and forgot to mention the Jeep Gladiator concept which I consider absolutely gorgeous. The concept had a 6spd manual and 4cyl diesel. 3 doors with an interesting little cubby door on the drivers side if you need to reach into the back seat to grab something. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:36:27 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can't help you with Rover experience aside from mentioning that a friend of a friend put a 350 in one. Your everything old is new again comment is poignant. I remember not too long ago that the big old muscle cars were much berated and there was talk of some Washington legislation that would have them all crushed. Seems funny now that one of the most desirable things is new cars that are mock old cars. The Mustang, Thunderbird, and this Land Criuser, to name a few attempt to look just like their predecessors. I'm greatly disappointed that when Chrysler finally brought back the Charger, it looks nothing like one, and is in fact ugly. On the other hand, have you seen the Challenger concept car? Brian 83 240D - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 12 23:00:54 2006 Received: from mercury.delhitel.net ([204.14.56.2]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FToKT-0001KN-4t for [EMAIL