Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-08 Thread MG via Mercedes
Damn, stuff just doesn't last like it used to. You'd think that a seal would last a bit longer then just 30 years. Especially when the manufacturer says to use ATF. Manfred Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 17:27:53 -0600 From: Peter Frederick There are rumors that ATF in any

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I don't believe that. Worn out seals will leak with any color. The 300TE had the tandem pump seals worn out due to being run dry for quite a while. A kit and new seals fixed it. the 35 year old pump in the 240D weeps. It has 35 years and a few 100K miles on it, so I think it has served

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
There are rumors that ATF in any version will eat the seals out of the PS pump. My "new" 300D lost one a few years back, and the fluid was pink. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I use the Febi equivalent in my '95 E300 (and I use whatever ATF bottle is open on the shelf for my '87 wagon), which I think is like $7 or $9 per liter. At my dealer I think they charged me $12 or $15 when I had to get some of the 000 989 88 03 quickly. Febi 08972 is "recommended" for use in

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Wow! Really? I think the last liter I bought at the dealer was like $12, if that. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of > distinction in the

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of distinction in the garage. Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I just keep a couple of liters of MB fluid on the shelf, that way it's > alway right no matter what. > >

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I just keep a couple of liters of MB fluid on the shelf, that way it's alway right no matter what. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Then M1 it is. > > Bob R > > On Dec 7, 2016 10:35 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Then M1 it is. Bob R On Dec 7, 2016 10:35 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yea that should be fine > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > M1 ATF? > > > > On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea that should be fine Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > M1 ATF? > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Not sure where you get that idea. I

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
M1 ATF? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not sure where you get that idea. I looked it up in the manual on either a > 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not sure where you get that idea. I looked it up in the manual on either a 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's what I use. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I need to top off the power steering fluid in my W210. It's simply ATF, no? > Would Mobil 1 ATF be an acceptable topping off fluid? > > Bob R >

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
gt; > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid > > Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid > Bob R > > On Wed

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
cussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Negat

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
So it appears a majority of chassis' use the Petosin CHF 11S. The W210, specifically, uses either MB fluid or Dexron III. I have some Dexron III in the garage. The information I looked at wasn't too elaborate as to Dexron III. Are all Dexron III brands/iterations the same? Bob R On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not > have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that... > > -Curt > >

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that... -Curt From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Bob Rentfro Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2014-02-11 Thread Larry T
Thanks Gary - ;-) Sincerely, Larry On 2/9/2014 8:42 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's just the old school ATF in a PS bottle. i'd happily use it in a W124 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2014-02-09 Thread Gary Hurst
that's just the old school ATF in a PS bottle. i'd happily use it in a W124 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from Rusty or the MB dealer several years ago. It's FEBI (Bilstein) # 08972 and it

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Mix with acetone, use on stuck bolts. Walt On Aug 24, 2011 11:22 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the garage. Gotta get rid of some things. Let's start with PS fluid. I have about a dozen bottles, various brands.

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Max Dillon
Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the throttle linkage. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the garage. Gotta get

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28 -0400, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the throttle linkage. Older cars use ATF for power steering, no? -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, and I'm pretty confident that your PSF, if not too old, would work fine. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28 -0400, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Should work fine in

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf
Most petroleum fluids are hydroscopic, so chances are they have already absorbed enough water to make then worthless :D -Rolf On 8/24/2011 11:22 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote: It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the garage. Gotta get rid of some things. Let's

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-11 Thread LarryT
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. Pete

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-11 Thread E M
/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-11 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: Can anyone recommend a good brand of PS fluid, or best to just pick up the MB brand? With the cost of a new Vickers pump, I'd buy a bottle or two of MBZ stuff every five years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. Pete On Nov 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, E M wrote: Can someone refresh my memory? In a W124

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond
What about the 201? Mine had a terrible leak, I replaced it and the new one hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
it and the new one hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond
] Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread John Freer
] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. I called

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Don, I do not know about the 1990 SEL but recently changed mine out in my 1979 240D. I went to Wal-Mart and bought the cheapest ATF ($1.50 a quart) and used about two quarts to flush it out. Drained it, put in the cheap stuff ran it a few minutes, drained and repeated until the new stuff in

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the car. Donald Snook wrote: I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from Rusty. My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long it has been in there. I hope that is enough fluid to change

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the car. I thought it was strange too. But, I looked through the repair orders from the dealer and there was nothing related to the power steering. They (the dealership) flushed the break fluid 3 times in 27

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2006-02-01 Thread RDeafBoy
Donald others, Imagine the shock that I got when @ 171,176 miles, I removed a Ceramic cylindrical sleeve. I guess this is the orignal filter ??!! Anyway I flushed and filled with Dextron II ATF with new filter [per MB guy]. I did this Oct.2005 [ 83 240D]

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-01-31 Thread Sunil Hari
Can't recall 126s, but on my 123 it only took .5L to do a full flush of the steering box. Don't think it should take more than a liter to do the whole thing on a 126. On 1/31/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from Rusty.

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-01-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Donald Snook wrote: I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from Rusty. My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long it has been in there. I hope that is enough fluid to change it out. The total volume of power steering fluid in your 126 is 1.3