Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

That's the bad thing about high blood pressure, you don't feel bad when it's in 
the danger zone.  You feel bad when you have damaged your heart or had a stroke 
of some sort.

I can tell if mine is up -- I'm all fired up and ready to go at things.  When 
it's "normal" my butt is dragging and all I want to do is take a nap.


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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I threw a 220/120 (IIRC) a year or so ago.  Everybody acted pretty weird
about it.  I felt fine.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

220/110 is a bit on the high side.  125/93 tonight, and not resting, so it's 
pretty much OK with meds.



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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Bp of 220/110? Isn’t that like beyond near death?

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "idopathic ventricular insufficiency" as the official diagnosis, but my 
> cardiologist said that there are a number of virus infections that can cause 
> heart troubles.
> 
> Some of them infect the heart muscle directly, causing weakness and possible 
> permanent damage, and others have surface proteins similar to heart muscle 
> (particularly left ventricle muscle fibers, which are unique in the body) and 
> infection causes auto-immune attacks on the fibers while the virus is active.
> 
> Sadly, by the time the damage shows up by someone getting sick enough to feel 
> bad enough to go to the ER or doctor's office, the virus is long gone.  I was 
> treated for three or four weeks for pneumonia before I was diagnosed at the 
> ER with heart failure, and I think that was only because I complained for 
> tightness in my upper chest due to fluid accumulation in the lungs.
> 
> My only other symptoms were some fluid collection around my ankles (much less 
> than I've had recently from a broken ankle taking forever to heal) and an 
> enlarged heart and shortness of breath along with a persistent cough.  All 
> but the fluid accumulation is typical of pneumonia, same fluid collection on 
> the lungs.
> 
> I felt fine after a couple hits of Lasix via IV and losing about four liters 
> of fluids in an hour or two, the swelling in my legs that only showed up the 
> day I went in to the ER was gone by the time I got upstairs to my room.
> 
> Recovery took about nine months, the first six were very long.  Really sucks 
> to have to sit and rest a while after walking to your car after work before 
> you can drive home  Basically whatever was damaging the muscle stopped, 
> and my left ventricle recovered and grew more muscle without scarring.
> 
> My heart recovered almost completely, although last time I had an EKG the Dr 
> said I have a right bundle branch block (that was not there when I had 
> surgery on the ankle six weeks earlier -- I think it was the anesthetic, 
> which takes me six or eight weeks to completely shake).
> 
> BP was VERY low while I was sick (for me, anyway -- 118/70), went back up to 
> 220/110 on my last visit to the electrocardiologist.  Normal for me is 
> 145/90, been that way since 1977.  Needless to say, I'm still on a beta 
> blocker and Lisinopril.
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

"idopathic ventricular insufficiency" as the official diagnosis, but my 
cardiologist said that there are a number of virus infections that can cause 
heart troubles.

Some of them infect the heart muscle directly, causing weakness and possible 
permanent damage, and others have surface proteins similar to heart muscle 
(particularly left ventricle muscle fibers, which are unique in the body) and 
infection causes auto-immune attacks on the fibers while the virus is active.

Sadly, by the time the damage shows up by someone getting sick enough to feel 
bad enough to go to the ER or doctor's office, the virus is long gone.  I was 
treated for three or four weeks for pneumonia before I was diagnosed at the ER 
with heart failure, and I think that was only because I complained for 
tightness in my upper chest due to fluid accumulation in the lungs.

My only other symptoms were some fluid collection around my ankles (much less 
than I've had recently from a broken ankle taking forever to heal) and an 
enlarged heart and shortness of breath along with a persistent cough.  All but 
the fluid accumulation is typical of pneumonia, same fluid collection on the 
lungs.

I felt fine after a couple hits of Lasix via IV and losing about four liters of 
fluids in an hour or two, the swelling in my legs that only showed up the day I 
went in to the ER was gone by the time I got upstairs to my room.

Recovery took about nine months, the first six were very long.  Really sucks to 
have to sit and rest a while after walking to your car after work before you 
can drive home  Basically whatever was damaging the muscle stopped, and my 
left ventricle recovered and grew more muscle without scarring.

My heart recovered almost completely, although last time I had an EKG the Dr 
said I have a right bundle branch block (that was not there when I had surgery 
on the ankle six weeks earlier -- I think it was the anesthetic, which takes me 
six or eight weeks to completely shake).

BP was VERY low while I was sick (for me, anyway -- 118/70), went back up to 
220/110 on my last visit to the electrocardiologist.  Normal for me is 145/90, 
been that way since 1977.  Needless to say, I'm still on a beta blocker and 
Lisinopril.
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

The physiotherapist down the hall from my office says that men 
especially, should use the largest computer mouse that they can find. He 
says a lot of the problems stem from trying to grip a mouse that is too 
small.
I had a big Microsoft mouse but it died and they no longer made it so I 
had to find something else. I use another Microsoft version but it is a 
bit smaller. However, still pretty good sized.


RB

On 16/11/2017 5:28 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Right.

I’ve changed up my work station around, utilizing a stand up arrangement for 
most of the day now.

Bob R

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And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.

Bob R

~
Hey Bob,
Which hand do you use for the mouse?
Gerry

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[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Right. 

I’ve changed up my work station around, utilizing a stand up arrangement for 
most of the day now. 

Bob R

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.
>>> 
>>> Bob R
> ~
> Hey Bob, 
> Which hand do you use for the mouse?
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It’s a little like acupuncture but there is none of the eastern woogga-woogga. 
They drive needles into the offending muscles (mine were knotted and 
constricted) and they get back to normal. Google it. It is awesome  

Bob R

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:03 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> 
> What the heck is "dry needling"?
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am betting dry needling = acupuncture.

If not, then my second guess is poking fun at someone in a British (dry)
sort of way.

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>
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.
> > >
> > > Bob R
> ~
> Hey Bob,
> Which hand do you use for the mouse?
> Gerry
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

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> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.
> >
> > Bob R
~
Hey Bob, 
Which hand do you use for the mouse?
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 
> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.
>
> Bob R
>
>
What the heck is "dry needling"?

-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/11/2017 6:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Good report, except for the enlarged heart -- sounds a great deal like my 
experience a couple years ago.

The echo cardiogram will tell all -- including thickened walls from chronic 
high BP, viral damage (which was my problem), and any valve issues.

If you get a chance to watch (sometimes you do, sometimes you don't get to see the screen), look 
for how the ventricles contract.  Normal "ejection fraction" -- the fraction of the blood 
actually pumped out each beat -- is 55% to 60%.  You should see the left ventricle "collapse 
in" on itself and squeeze the blood out nicely, with the walls becoming convex toward the 
cavity.  When I was really sick, my left ventricle looked like a water balloon and wasn't 
contracting very well at all, and was well above normal size.  Everything else was fine, and I had 
good turbulence, so no blood thinners.

Last time I was in, just about two years ago, all was back to near normal.

Peter
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How and why did your heart recover?

My 85 year old mother suffers from COPD. Never a smoker, they have told 
her that she likely suffered some form or viral damage to her heart at 
some point in time that she was not aware of.
Until only a few years back, she would cheerfully walk miles every day 
and has always been slim.
She is most unhappy to learn that the medical system does not seem to 
have any real solution for her issues. She is on a whole bunch of 
medications now which of course, cause other side effects.

Not a happy camper as she lacks the energy to walk very far now.

RB

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yup, stress sucks. I've been traveling too much, working too much and worrying 
too much. I heard that stress can make your fingers cold and noticed that mine 
were. I wasn't sleeping well and was irritable.
I've been at deer camp a week now (came up last Thursday) and last night I went 
to bed at 8:30. I've finally unwound enough to start relaxing. Fortunately I've 
got two days left...
Curt

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  On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:15 PM, ROGER HALE via 
Mercedes wrote:   Kaleb,

      I went through all of this last year only to be given a beta blocker to 
use only when needed and some low dose blood pressure medicine.  Some doctors 
love tests.  Stress causes all of us more problems than anything else.  It 
would seem that with your house issues, job move decisions, wife's wrecks, etc, 
you've probably been under a lot of stress.  Find a way to "hide" somewhere, 
breath deep, close your eyes, and just relax.  It will be cheaper and you'll 
feel much better.

Glad your news was good,

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Must be your end Kaleb, his email looks fine on my 'puter (Win10 / Firedfox
/ gmail) and on my Android phone with K9 Mail

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What the heck is wrong with your email?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My little ordeal was a little different with similar results.
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

On the ifon it shows up with the weird stuff, on the computer it is 
fine.  My fon upgraded Tues night and it was fixed yesterday morning.


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On 11/16/17 9:39 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

That’s the problem - he did do the latest iOS update!

-D


On Nov 16, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What the heck is wrong with your email?

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

My little ordeal was a little different with similar results.
On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left shoulder 
blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the numbness was 
radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried since the source 
of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not in my chest. So I️ 
messed around all night trying to get comfortable and finally at 0400, I️ went 
to the ER.
When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart attack. 
I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were unwavering say,”” 
“with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not.
Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the hurt 
go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The cardiologist 
was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart rate she 
wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man my age 
shouldn’t do CrossFit.
So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, the 
pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve somewhere in 
the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. Still recovering 
from it. PT gal says it was not CF related.
And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yep

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
with no blockage at all. The stress testWhat the heck is wrong with your email?

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

My little ordeal was a little different with similar results.
On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left shoulder 
blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the numbness was 
radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried since the source 
of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not in my chest. So I️ 
messed around all night trying to get comfortable and finally at 0400, I️ went 
to the ER.
When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart attack. 
I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were unwavering say,”” 
“with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not.
Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the hurt 
go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The cardiologist 
was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart rate she 
wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man my age 
shouldn’t do CrossFit.
So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, the 
pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve somewhere in 
the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. Still recovering 
from it. PT gal says it was not CF related.
And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yep

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
week after next to check that out.

Sent from my 

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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

That’s the problem - he did do the latest iOS update!

-D

> On Nov 16, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What the heck is wrong with your email?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My little ordeal was a little different with similar results. 
>> On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left 
>> shoulder blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the 
>> numbness was radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried 
>> since the source of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not 
>> in my chest. So I️ messed around all night trying to get comfortable and 
>> finally at 0400, I️ went to the ER.
>> When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
>> fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart 
>> attack. I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were 
>> unwavering say,”” “with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not. 
>> Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
>> test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the 
>> hurt go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The 
>> cardiologist was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart 
>> rate she wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man 
>> my age shouldn’t do CrossFit. 
>> So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, 
>> the pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve 
>> somewhere in the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. 
>> Still recovering from it. PT gal says it was not CF related. 
>> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.  
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
 
 On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress testWhat the heck is wrong with your 
> email?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My little ordeal was a little different with similar results. 
>> On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left 
>> shoulder blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the 
>> numbness was radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried 
>> since the source of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not 
>> in my chest. So I️ messed around all night trying to get comfortable and 
>> finally at 0400, I️ went to the ER.
>> When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
>> fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart 
>> attack. I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were 
>> unwavering say,”” “with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not. 
>> Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
>> test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the 
>> hurt go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The 
>> cardiologist was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart 
>> rate she wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man 
>> my age shouldn’t do CrossFit. 
>> So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, 
>> the pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve 
>> somewhere in the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. 
>> Still recovering from it. PT gal says it was not CF related. 
>> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.  
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
 
 On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
> pressure. 

Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

He doesn’t have the iOS upgrade yet

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What the heck is wrong with your email?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My little ordeal was a little different with similar results. 
>> On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left 
>> shoulder blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the 
>> numbness was radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried 
>> since the source of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not 
>> in my chest. So I️ messed around all night trying to get comfortable and 
>> finally at 0400, I️ went to the ER.
>> When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
>> fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart 
>> attack. I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were 
>> unwavering say,”” “with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not. 
>> Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
>> test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the 
>> hurt go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The 
>> cardiologist was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart 
>> rate she wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man 
>> my age shouldn’t do CrossFit. 
>> So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, 
>> the pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve 
>> somewhere in the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. 
>> Still recovering from it. PT gal says it was not CF related. 
>> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.  
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
 
 On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it 
> is
> week after next to check that out.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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What the heck is wrong with your email?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My little ordeal was a little different with similar results. 
> On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left 
> shoulder blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the numbness 
> was radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried since the 
> source of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not in my 
> chest. So I️ messed around all night trying to get comfortable and finally at 
> 0400, I️ went to the ER.
> When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
> fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart 
> attack. I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were 
> unwavering say,”” “with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not. 
> Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
> test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the 
> hurt go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The 
> cardiologist was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart 
> rate she wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man 
> my age shouldn’t do CrossFit. 
> So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, the 
> pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve somewhere in 
> the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. Still 
> recovering from it. PT gal says it was not CF related. 
> And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.  
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
 with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
 know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
 pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
 been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
 week after next to check that out.
 
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>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
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>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

My little ordeal was a little different with similar results. 
On July 25th, I️ woke up at 0100 with a ridiculous pain under my left shoulder 
blade that was making my left arm numb and tingling and the numbness was 
radiating up my neck. It hurt like hell. I️ wasn’t too worried since the source 
of the pain, I️ felt, was back under my shoulder blade not in my chest. So I️ 
messed around all night trying to get comfortable and finally at 0400, I️ went 
to the ER.
When I️ got to the ER and described my situation to the nurse, they started 
fetchin’ and gettin’ and whisked me off thinking I️ was having a heart attack. 
I️ assured them I️ was pretty sure it was not but they were unwavering say,”” 
“with a man your age, we have to make sure it’s not. 
Long story short, I️ was admitted and spent all day getting every imaginable 
test and scan while resting with an IV dripping something in that made the hurt 
go away. The result was that my heart is in perfect condition. The cardiologist 
was amazed. This, coupled with my nice BP and low resting heart rate she 
wondered what I️ did. When I️ told her CrossFit, she told me a man my age 
shouldn’t do CrossFit. 
So, they 86ed me and within 15 minutes of the IV needle being pulled out, the 
pai came charging back. Turns out it was a wicked pinched nerve somewhere in 
the knitted muscles in my shoulder. A constricted nerve glide. Still recovering 
from it. PT gal says it was not CF related. 
And, in case anyone wonders, dry needling is awesome and it works.  

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
>>> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
>>> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
>>> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
>>> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
>>> week after next to check that out.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> OK Don
>> 
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

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"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with 
> no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know 
> for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She 
> did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making 
> it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to 
> check that out. 
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Your clean bill-of-health is great news, Kaleb.
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

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Max sez:

>Walking is great exercise (and a stress >reliever!), I try to walk for 45
>minutes every work day during my lunch >break. I keep trying to "up" the
>benefit by increasing the difficulty,

‎https://m.ebay.com/itm/HEAVYHANDS-WALKING-BOOK-By-Schwartz-Leonard-Excellent-Condition-/182825581540?nav=SEARCH

Probably best to check out at the library. It's out of print and a bit pricey.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Awww!  The She-Doc sez Kaleb has a big heart!

He'd have to have a big heart to sponsor this group for so many years!

Thanks Kaleb!

Glad it turned out well.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM
Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear 
arteries with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false 
positive. At least we know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely 
from the high blood pressure. She did say it appears my heart is 
enlarged but it could have been the dye making it appear that way. I 
have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to check that out.


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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had a neighbor who was our family pediatrician that taught me biofeedback.  I 
didn’t buy into it at first until she showed me how to do it and actually saw 
the results.

Keep in mind that if you’re seriously stressed or have other medical issues it 
won’t make a significant difference, or maybe have no effect at all.  There are 
limitations.

-D


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should try the biofeedback -- my pulse has always been fast (about 
> 100 resting) and BP has been 140 over 70 and up since I was in college.
> 
> Runs in the family, too, my niece is exactly the same, and when they stuff 
> enough medicine down me to lower it, I pass out and can't think.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Maybe I should try the biofeedback -- my pulse has always been fast (about 100 
resting) and BP has been 140 over 70 and up since I was in college.

Runs in the family, too, my niece is exactly the same, and when they stuff 
enough medicine down me to lower it, I pass out and can't think.  

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Good report, except for the enlarged heart -- sounds a great deal like my 
experience a couple years ago.

The echo cardiogram will tell all -- including thickened walls from chronic 
high BP, viral damage (which was my problem), and any valve issues.

If you get a chance to watch (sometimes you do, sometimes you don't get to see 
the screen), look for how the ventricles contract.  Normal "ejection fraction" 
-- the fraction of the blood actually pumped out each beat -- is 55% to 60%.  
You should see the left ventricle "collapse in" on itself and squeeze the blood 
out nicely, with the walls becoming convex toward the cavity.  When I was 
really sick, my left ventricle looked like a water balloon and wasn't 
contracting very well at all, and was well above normal size.  Everything else 
was fine, and I had good turbulence, so no blood thinners.

Last time I was in, just about two years ago, all was back to near normal.

Peter
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
>> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
>> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
>> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
>> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
>> week after next to check that out.
>> 
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> 
> -- 
> OK Don
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's good news! Try diet and exercise to get/keep the BP down.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
> week after next to check that out.
>
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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve always had a fairly low resting pulse and blood pressure.  Just had an 
insurance company workup this morning and my resting pulse was 52 and my BP was 
101 over 57.

When I was younger I did a lot of biofeedback to keep my pulse rate down.  It’s 
worked well for me ever since.  If I feel myself getting stressed I can get my 
BP and pulse rate back down pretty quick.

-D

 
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, just focused.  Anyone can do this, one simply needs to decide that
> health is important.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You are not human. You are a machine!
>> 
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, just focused.  Anyone can do this, one simply needs to decide that
health is important.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> You are not human. You are a machine!
>
>
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You are not human. You are a machine!

RB

On 15/11/2017 4:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Walking is great exercise (and a stress reliever!), I try to walk for 45
minutes every work day during my lunch break.  I keep trying to "up" the
benefit by increasing the difficulty, I've added ankle weights and carry
dumbells, and now I've found a place along my route that I can do some
pull-ups.  I think the next logical step is to carry a ruck and
progressively add weight until that is up to about 50 lbs or so.

My resting pulse is 55 bpm, last time I checked on the automated blood
pressure machine in my building: 98 over 50something.

-
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Charleston SC




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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Walking is great exercise (and a stress reliever!), I try to walk for 45
minutes every work day during my lunch break.  I keep trying to "up" the
benefit by increasing the difficulty, I've added ankle weights and carry
dumbells, and now I've found a place along my route that I can do some
pull-ups.  I think the next logical step is to carry a ruck and
progressively add weight until that is up to about 50 lbs or so.

My resting pulse is 55 bpm, last time I checked on the automated blood
pressure machine in my building: 98 over 50something.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I took daily half hour walks in the four months between my first stress
> test and the nuclear test. My pulse hit 176 in the initial test. At the
> start of the treadmill session where they injected the dye, they told me
> that they'd take me to the same stress level as in my original test. When
> we got to where they halted my first test, my pulse was about 150, and I
> could talk at a conversational level. "Hey, what are you shutting me down
> now for, I'm not even beginning to feel stressed". Cardiologist swore that
> a pulse of 150 was plenty stressful, and that the test conclusively showed
> no cardiac damage.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Question for the medically inclined members of the list:

Would a nuclear stress test have given similar information to what Kaleb 
learned today, or is that for a different set of symptoms?

I'm thinking my stress test was probably less stressful than Kaleb's roto 
rooter job, but if something was wrong, they could have fixed Kaleb during the 
testing. 

One odd thing about my nuclear stress test:
I took daily half hour walks in the four months between my first stress test 
and the nuclear test. My pulse hit 176 in the initial test. At the start of the 
treadmill session where they injected the dye, they told me that they'd take me 
to the same stress level as in my original test. When we got to where they 
halted my first test, my pulse was about 150, and I could talk at a 
conversational level. "Hey, what are you shutting me down now for, I'm not even 
beginning to feel stressed". Cardiologist swore that a pulse of 150 was plenty 
stressful, and that the test conclusively showed no cardiac damage. 
I'm still alive 2 years later, so I must be OK. 
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/nuclear-stress-test/basics/definition/PRC-20012978

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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Good News!

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:58 PM
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] The cath is done

Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with no 
blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know for 
sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She did 
say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making it 
appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to check 
that out. 

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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 15, 2017 at 3:58 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with 
> no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know 
> for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She 
> did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making 
> it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to 
> check that out. 

Now that you're done with that, you wanna go drag Regina's car home?
http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/photos-36-9.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Awesome, thanks for the good news!

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Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries
> with no blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we
> know for sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood
> pressure. She did say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have
> been the dye making it appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is
> week after next to check that out.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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