Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?


From what I've heard, the first thing you must do is completely 
un-install any previous version before a later version can be installed 
(but that may only be the older versions).


Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yep, tried that

Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?



 From what I've heard, the first thing you must do is completely 
un-install any previous version before a later version can be installed 
(but that may only be the older versions).


Marshall



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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Williams

Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?
 





Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread frederick w moir


Hi, Russ W.
Could you also send info to me? Please. I cannot get it to go either.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dieselitis Maximus


Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.




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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Dave M.
Yep - works fine on my box (XP SP2). What's the error, or where does
it not work...?

+dm

 --
 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:48:01 -0600
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?


 I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent
 instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this
 monster?
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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread OK Don
If your latest car is a '90, would ther be any reason (rational) to
covet the newer EPC?


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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will try doing the loopback deal.  The instructions say you might but 
if you have some id number in ipconfig then you dont need to.  Well I 
have a number but will try the lookback anyways I guess.


Russ Williams wrote:


Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?






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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
When it goes to install is stops the install and goes to install the 
program manager deal.  Right off the bat it says something about tp/ip 
corrupt or something like that.  You can click ignore and continue on. 
Then at the end is says something about cant setup the program manager 
deal and it quits.


Dave M. wrote:


Yep - works fine on my box (XP SP2). What's the error, or where does
it not work...?

+dm



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Subject: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?


I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this
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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, it includes all euro models in most countries, including 
transporters, gwagens, mogs etc.


OK Don wrote:


If your latest car is a '90, would ther be any reason (rational) to
covet the newer EPC?


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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Dave M.
Don,

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Only if you need access to European part numbers or
datacards, or other markets (Japan, South Africa, etc). Or info on
Mogs, trucks, busses, etc. There are a  handful of updates 
corrections even on some of the older cars but not enough to really
justify the hassle of upgrading the EPC. The WW version is a very
different program that requires a license key, and installation of MB
Program Manager (mostly for the license manager). The USA-only EPC is
a much simpler installation (Aug-2002 is the newest version I know of
commonly available for the USA setup.)

:-)

-dm

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 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:17:50 -0600
 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?


 If your latest car is a '90, would ther be any reason (rational) to
 covet the newer EPC?



Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Williams

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
  of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
  MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy  Past that 
number

  into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
  _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from 
accessing

  the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
  that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC, 
There are
  2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start. 
Those services

  take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in 
German

just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.



Russ Williams wrote:


Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 

I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?



   





Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You know what the funning thing is, I have NEVER been about to get my 
old EPO to work when doing the drive mapping and coping the CD's to the 
hard drive.  Well after I got tires of messing with the DVD for now, I 
reinstalled the old EPC and it mapped everything just fine and works 
with the files copied to the disk.  Still want to get the DVD one going 
though.


Dave M. wrote:


Don,

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Only if you need access to European part numbers or
datacards, or other markets (Japan, South Africa, etc). Or info on
Mogs, trucks, busses, etc. There are a  handful of updates 
corrections even on some of the older cars but not enough to really
justify the hassle of upgrading the EPC. The WW version is a very
different program that requires a license key, and installation of MB
Program Manager (mostly for the license manager). The USA-only EPC is
a much simpler installation (Aug-2002 is the newest version I know of
commonly available for the USA setup.)

:-)

-dm



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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:17:50 -0600
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?


If your latest car is a '90, would ther be any reason (rational) to
covet the newer EPC?



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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread OK Don
Thanks - I'll stick with the 2002 version then.

On 11/7/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don,

 Short answer: No.


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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Williams

Fred,

I sent it to the List for all.

Russ W.

frederick w moir wrote:


Hi, Russ W.
Could you also send info to me? Please. I cannot get it to go either.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dieselitis Maximus

 


Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.




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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Dave M.
I've never understood the fascination with the loopback adapter. I
have never needed one (don't even know what one would look like,
lol!). I've also not had any problems with it 'phoning home'. I'm
running XP SP2 with the firewall turned on, but it's never asked me
about allowing any EPC net traffic through. I wonder if all this jazz
is for an older version or something.

Kaleb, do you have the 04/2005 version or a different one? Did the
disc included the 'Read Me' file that I authored (sent a link in a
recent post), or did it have a different installation guide (possible
a MS Word document)?

+dm

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 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:08:30 -0600
 From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

 Kaleb,

 Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

 1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
 2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
 3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
 4. Start EPC install program.
 5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
   of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
   MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy  Past that
 number
   into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
 6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
   _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from
 accessing
   the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
   that happens MB will shut it down.
 7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC,
 There are
   2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start.
 Those services
   take a few min. to start up.

 BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in
 German
 just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
 Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
 is the same as the EPC.

 If this doesn't work let me know.

 Russ W.



Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Williams

Dave,

Don't know about your version, But the one my Indy installed would
not work without the loopback adapter installed. He fought with it for
3 hours. 
As for phoning home one of the Indies in N.O. told buddy (My Indy)

at a MB Tech Class that he allowed his WIS  EPC to access the internet.
About 2 weeks after he installed it. He launched the EPC to look up a part.
A Screen came up to WARNING YOU HAVE A PIRATED COPY OF THE EPC Contact
MBNA for a Legal copy. Same thing for his copy of the WIS. This was on his
home computer w/Broadband connection. His Laptop at work that has the same
EPC and WIS installed and not connected to the Net is still running.

Go Figure.

Russ W.

Dave M. wrote:


I've never understood the fascination with the loopback adapter. I
have never needed one (don't even know what one would look like,
lol!). I've also not had any problems with it 'phoning home'. I'm
running XP SP2 with the firewall turned on, but it's never asked me
about allowing any EPC net traffic through. I wonder if all this jazz
is for an older version or something.

Kaleb, do you have the 04/2005 version or a different one? Did the
disc included the 'Read Me' file that I authored (sent a link in a
recent post), or did it have a different installation guide (possible
a MS Word document)?

+dm

 


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Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:08:30 -0600
From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
 of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
 MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy  Past that
number
 into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
 _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from
accessing
 the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
 that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC,
There are
 2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start.
Those services
 take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in
German
just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.
   



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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread frederick w moir

Russ W.
Murky Buckets. (Ta very much).
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA



Fred,

I sent it to the List for all.

Russ W.








Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

thanks, will let you know what happens.

Russ Williams wrote:

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
   of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
   MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy  Past that 
number

   into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
   _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from 
accessing

   the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
   that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC, 
There are
   2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start. 
Those services

   take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in 
German

just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.



Russ Williams wrote:



Kaleb,

Yep there is a trick to it. My Indy has done it and the Secret.
I'll email him and get him to send it to me. I'll relay it to you.

I do know you have to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter before
installing.

Russ W.



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:




I do, and cant get the darn thing to install.  Has pretty decent 
instructions with it but cant get it to go.  Anybody dealt with this 
monster?



  




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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its the 2005 version.  It came with printed out instructions, similiar 
to the ones you posted but not exactly.


Dave M. wrote:


I've never understood the fascination with the loopback adapter. I
have never needed one (don't even know what one would look like,
lol!). I've also not had any problems with it 'phoning home'. I'm
running XP SP2 with the firewall turned on, but it's never asked me
about allowing any EPC net traffic through. I wonder if all this jazz
is for an older version or something.

Kaleb, do you have the 04/2005 version or a different one? Did the
disc included the 'Read Me' file that I authored (sent a link in a
recent post), or did it have a different installation guide (possible
a MS Word document)?

+dm



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Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:08:30 -0600
From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

Kaleb,

Just got off the phone with Indy. Here's what you have to do.

1. Install Microsoft Loopback Adapter.
2. Disable all other Network Adapters.
3. Start the KeyGen program and Minimize.
4. Start EPC install program.
5. When the install program gets to the screen that has the MAC Address
 of the Loopback adapter. Write it down and go back to the KeyGen put the
 MAC Addy into the KenGen. You will get a code back. Copy  Past that
number
 into the EPC. Chose the Install Options you want.
6. Follow the Instructions from that point on.
 _*NOTE*_ If you have a firewall that allows blocking programs from
accessing
 the Internet select DENY. The EPC  wants to be like ET and Phone Home. If
 that happens MB will shut it down.
7. Reboot the computer. Wait at least 5 min before Launching the EPC,
There are
 2 services in XP that the EPC needs running before it will start.
Those services
 take a few min. to start up.

BTW if you Start EPC and it won't let you access any data or comes up in
German
just shut it down wait a min. or two and restart.
Also if you have the WIS program Install it first. The WIS install procedure
is the same as the EPC.

If this doesn't work let me know.

Russ W.



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Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?

2005-11-08 Thread Dave M.
Russ,

That's bizarre. I suspect the 'pirated' copies are ones that are
'cracked' and don't use a keygen. The keygen creates a real license
key, same as you would get from MB. I have my EPC and WIS installed at
home, on a PC connected to the internet via broadband. I have no 3rd
party firewall (no ZoneAlarm, etc) just the XP built-in thingy. It's
never asked to connect and I have no idea if it does or not. Works
fine though. It also works on a standalone box that's not connected to
the internet. I think it depends on where you obtained the EPC and
WIS... there may be 'cracked' versions out there that require the
loopback, or that can't be connected to the internet.

The old USA-only WIS and EPC have NO problems with this at all.
They're probably still floating around FTP servers, or on eBay...

:-)

+dm

 --
 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:51:00 -0600
 From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody have the new DVD version of the EPC?


 Dave,

 Don't know about your version, But the one my Indy installed would
 not work without the loopback adapter installed. He fought with it for
 3 hours.
 As for phoning home one of the Indies in N.O. told buddy (My Indy)
 at a MB Tech Class that he allowed his WIS  EPC to access the internet.
 About 2 weeks after he installed it. He launched the EPC to look up a part.
 A Screen came up to WARNING YOU HAVE A PIRATED COPY OF THE EPC Contact
 MBNA for a Legal copy. Same thing for his copy of the WIS. This was on his
 home computer w/Broadband connection. His Laptop at work that has the same
 EPC and WIS installed and not connected to the Net is still running.

 Go Figure.

 Russ W.