Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If it makes you feel any better I will from now on purchase Mann filters if
they are reasonably close in price to the other German brands.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The
 discussion about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about
 a 124. When you get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters
 I'll admit you're adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise
 you're just adding noise.
 -Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
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 Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

 Only W123, 111, 108, and 109



 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 In a 124?

 Curt

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The discussion 
about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about a 124. When you 
get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters I'll admit you're 
adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise you're just adding noise.
-Curt
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Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
   
Only W123, 111, 108, and 109



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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

In a 124?

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why not?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I think all the MB filters I have in stock are Mann, they were usually a
 buck or two more but I figured it was worth it.
 Since you don't have a 124 it doesn't matter...
 -Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

 If it makes you feel any better I will from now on purchase Mann filters
 if they are reasonably close in price to the other German brands.



 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The
 discussion about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about
 a 124. When you get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters
 I'll admit you're adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise
 you're just adding noise.
 -Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

 Only W123, 111, 108, and 109



 On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 In a 124?

 Curt

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think all the MB filters I have in stock are Mann, they were usually a buck 
or two more but I figured it was worth it.
Since you don't have a 124 it doesn't matter...
-Curt
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mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
   
If it makes you feel any better I will from now on purchase Mann filters if 
they are reasonably close in price to the other German brands.



On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

So you don't know for sure that other filters will work fine. The discussion 
about requiring Mann AT filters for good operation is all about a 124. When you 
get a 124 and get it to work fine with other brand filters I'll admit you're 
adding something useful to the discussion. Otherwise you're just adding noise.
-Curt
      From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

Only W123, 111, 108, and 109



On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

In a 124?

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Because your 123s are good with elring or any German brand of trans 
filters.  PAY ATTENTION.



Why not?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I think all the MB filters I have in stock are Mann, they were usually a
 buck or two more but I figured it was worth it.
 Since you don't have a 124 it doesn't matter...

  -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Only W123, 111, 108, and 109

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 In a 124?

 Curt

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
In a 124?

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I've used all the German filters interchangeably over the years with no
problem whatsoever.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Absolutely, always buy Mann products.. ;))

 Buy more than you need.. please...

 Thank you,

 G. Mann


 Vernon Behr was a MB owner in MN.  Yes, he was related to, though a few
 generations removed from, the Behrs who make radiators and such for MB.


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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not to be stereotypical, but all German-made branded filters are equivalent
to me.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
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 Mr Wilton, Sir.Thank you.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:31:33 -0400
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
 
  ATTABOY!
 
  Wilton
 

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew.The words German-made is the kicker. Many of the lesser german branded 
stuff is made by little old ladies in the orient, knitted out of Mao's old 
socks no doubt.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:12:19 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
 
 Not to be stereotypical, but all German-made branded filters are equivalent
 to me.
  
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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Another case where you haven't been paying attention. 124 AT filters that are 
not Mann are not worth having. Cheapness is not cheap if you have to do the job 
over again.
-Curt

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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Fred Moir 
fredh.s...@hotmail.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
   
Not to be stereotypical, but all German-made branded filters are equivalent
to me.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Mr Wilton, Sir.Thank you.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:31:33 -0400
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
 
  ATTABOY!
 
  Wilton
 

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Another Alfred E Neuman moment!


Another case where you haven't been paying attention. 124 AT filters 
that are not Mann are not worth having. Cheapness is not cheap if 
you have to do the job over again.

-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Fred Moir 
fredh.s...@hotmail.com

 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
  
Not to be stereotypical, but all German-made branded filters are equivalent

to me.



|(:: )  Who?  ME?

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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Absolutely, always buy Mann products.. ;))

Buy more than you need.. please...

Thank you,

G. Mann

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Another Alfred E Neuman moment!


 Another case where you haven't been paying attention. 124 AT filters that
 are not Mann are not worth having. Cheapness is not cheap if you have to do
 the job over again.
 -Curt

   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Fred Moir 
 fredh.s...@hotmail.com
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
   Not to be stereotypical, but all German-made branded filters are
 equivalent
 to me.



 |(:: )  Who?  ME?


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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Absolutely, always buy Mann products.. ;))

Buy more than you need.. please...

Thank you,

G. Mann



Vernon Behr was a MB owner in MN.  Yes, he was related to, though a 
few generations removed from, the Behrs who make radiators and such 
for MB.


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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Seat gremlins: Change ALL the Fuses?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-27 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max.
BTDT. No T-Shirt though.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:06:34 -0400
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
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 CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
 
 Seat gremlins: Change ALL the Fuses?
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
  
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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-27 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Mr Wilton, Sir.Thank you.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

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 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:31:33 -0400
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com
 
 ATTABOY!
 
 Wilton
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The '87 TD is shifting properly again.Changed the trans oil and 
filter with the correct Mann filter, (use anything else and you 
die).The filter coming out was Meyle, origin unknown, and the oil 
was mostly red with some minor particulates..While under there 
taking off the trans pan, I noticed that the front exhaust pipe 
mount was missing one rubber thingummybob, which was replaced 
forthwith!As I was instructed, replaced the 
mumbleshifterbushingsmumble. The car runs as it should.Tomorrow is 
fix the front seat memory loss and no movement, maybe a laxative?


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.			  



Waytago!

Sounds like your seat is missing electrojuicity, if it both lost its 
mind and its movement.   As Dan said  check/change fuse.


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Re: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.

2015-08-27 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:01 PM
Subject: [MBZ] was 300TD woes.


The '87 TD is shifting properly again.Changed the trans oil and filter 
with the correct Mann filter, (use anything else and you die).The filter 
coming out was Meyle, origin unknown, and the oil was mostly red with some 
minor particulates..While under there taking off the trans pan, I noticed 
that the front exhaust pipe mount was missing one rubber thingummybob, 
which was replaced forthwith!As I was instructed, replaced the 
mumbleshifterbushingsmumble. The car runs as it should.Tomorrow is fix the 
front seat memory loss and no movement, maybe a laxative?


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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