SV: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-26 Thread Torben Schlntz
reaction to another mail about this This happens all the time in different shapes so I would expect some happy day we found a crosslinked factor. we will never find a factor who is a factor of Mx and also of My simply because every factor give only one count with my algoritm and is factor of

RE: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-24 Thread Bruce Leenstra
Will Edgington writes: [...] But, for those who are interested, here's the current data on how far my runs of the program have gotten so far: M( 32768 )X: 13952750007 M( 1073741824 )X: 810019 M( 18446744073709551615 )X: 2224500019 [...,] the last line implies that all primes less

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-22 Thread Bruce Leenstra
Alex Kruppa wrote: Bruce Leenstra wrote: As luck would have it, this is nearly what I am doing right now: tempvalue = (q+1)/2 count = 1 while tempvalue != 1 { if tempvalue is odd tempvalue += q shiftright tempvalue count++ } v = count I'm not sure I understand that code

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-22 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Will Edgington wrote: Is it worthwhile mounting a formal attack on the Mersenne numbers between 20 million say 40 million using this technique? We're getting quite close to this I think Chris would not have bothered with these, since they were so far ahead of LL testing at

VS: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-22 Thread Torben Schlntz
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Torben Schlüntz Sendt: lø 23-03-2002 02:54 Til: Bruce Leenstra Cc: Emne: SV: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors Bruce Leenstra wrote: You'll notice that 'tempvalue

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-21 Thread Steve Harris
Message- From: Torben Schlüntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phil Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: SV: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors Actually I should have let Steve answer this, but I can't ignore to say that I already

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-21 Thread Brian J. Beesley
Hi, I seem to remember about 3.5 years ago someone (I think it was Chris Nash) had done something similar eliminated a lot of Mersenne numbers. Is it worthwhile mounting a formal attack on the Mersenne numbers between 20 million say 40 million using this technique? We're getting quite close

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Harris
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors to find the value v where prime p is a factor of 2^v-1 tempvalue = p count = 0 while tempvalue != 0 { if tempvalue is odd { shiftright tempvalue count

SV: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-20 Thread Torben Schlntz
M89 is prime! M89 = 618.970.019.642.690.137.449.562.111 with no known factors. So it would be lovely if we could rule out any possible Mx if x had earlier been a factor for any other My. :-) But no. M11 proves this so nicely: M23 has factors, M89 none. I've started looking for some factors,

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-20 Thread Phil Moore
Steve Harris claimed that M89 is not prime, but it is! So his conjecture about being able to eliminate a few Mersenne candidates because the exponent is a factor of a non-prime Mersenne number won't work. Phil Moore _

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-20 Thread Bruce Leenstra
Jeroen wrote: to find the value v where prime p is a factor of 2^v-1 tempvalue = p count = 0 while tempvalue != 0 { if tempvalue is odd { shiftright tempvalue count++ } else { tempvalue+=p } } ... (Uh, did you swap your 'if' and 'else' clauses? if temp is

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-20 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Bruce Leenstra wrote: As luck would have it, this is nearly what I am doing right now: tempvalue = (q+1)/2 count = 1 while tempvalue != 1 { if tempvalue is odd tempvalue += q shiftright tempvalue count++ } v = count I'm not sure I understand that code yet, but I've

Re: Mersenne: Factors aren't just factors

2002-03-19 Thread Jeroen
to find the value v where prime p is a factor of 2^v-1 tempvalue = p count = 0 while tempvalue != 0 { if tempvalue is odd { shiftright tempvalue count++ } else { tempvalue+=p } } if the count is a primenumber then p is thus a factor of a mersenne prime if the