Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-30 Thread John R Pierce
3) The on-board ATI graphics chip is about 2 cm away from the Slot1, directly underneath the CPU's big heat sink. Hmmm, sounds pretty suspicious to me. I would move it down a slot or two... "ON-BOARD" ATI graphics. its a all-in-one motherboard. can't move it. re: emf radiation, I

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-29 Thread Henrik Olsen
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Louis Towles wrote: I tried this a few months ago on our E series Gateways (ATI Rage Pro) Prime95 LL test - yes interference Prime95 factoring - no interference Distributed Net Client - no interference FPU benchmark (I think it was ZD winbench's FPU test) - yes

RE: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-29 Thread Johnson Kent D
POV-Ray is a multi-platform freeware raytracing program that makes heavy use of of the FPU. You can download it from http://www.povray.org/ . The Windows version will actually even render a test scene for you upon installation so you don't have to know anything about using the program. Kent D.

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-29 Thread Leo Feret
I should have made explicit that "when we examined the processor usage of the mainstream business applications in the Winstone test, we found that they do not use any floating point or MMX instructions. Consequently, CPUmark99 doesn't

RE: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-29 Thread Leu Enterprises Unlimited
Ditto on Aaron's excellent comments. I've added some of my own. From: "Aaron Blosser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:33:52 -0600 Subject: RE: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics ... 2) I don't think heat is the problem. The problems start within 5-10

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-29 Thread poke
2) I don't think heat is the problem. The problems start within 5-10 seconds of starting prime and stop as soon as prime is halted. I never said anything about heat. I said electromagnetic radiation. It emenates (sp?) from anything that is electrical. The more electricity, themore

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread jescamilla
I have the same problem with a 400MHz PII Compaq, I think it has a ATI graphics card. James Escamilla From: novarese @ job.cba.ua.edu on 01/27/99 04:11 PM To: mersenne @ base.com cc:(bcc: James Escamilla/TXN) Subject: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics Has anyone

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread poke
I think we talked about this a while ago, but it manifested itself in noisy RAM (or was it cache chips???). The conclusion was that it was the extensive heat/EMF given off by a very active processor. Perhaps ATI video cards are more susceptible to interference. Try moving your video card a slot

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread Andrew Isaacson
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 10:55:39AM -0600, Paul Victor Novarese wrote: Could someone explain this "noisy" cache/RAM? That sounds like it may be the problem. As I recall, someone reported a similar symptom to what you're reporting: i.e. a "noisy" video signal. One possible cause that was

RE: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread Aaron Blosser
Could someone explain this "noisy" cache/RAM? That sounds like it may be the problem. Since the cache on the PII's is built in, saying it's a cache problem might as well be the same as calling it a CPU problem. More facts for you detectives out there: 1) This is a Dell Optiplex. All

RE: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread Aaron Blosser
As I recall, someone reported a similar symptom to what you're reporting: i.e. a "noisy" video signal. One possible cause that was advanced on the mailing list was that Mersenne's heavy usage of the FPU or cache might be generating enough interference to cause the problem. And besides,

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread Louis Towles
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 3:33 PM Subject: RE: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics One good test would be to use any other program that uses the FPU alot and see if the flicker shows up. Can anyone think of another program that would? I suppose any benchmark that tests FLOPS

Re: Mersenne: Problems with ATI graphics

1999-01-28 Thread Leo Feret
Aaron Blosser wrote: Could someone explain this "noisy" cache/RAM? That sounds like it may be the problem. Since the cache on the PII's is built in, saying it's a cache problem might as well be the same as calling it a CPU problem. The cache and integer bits of a PII are used with