Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-20 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Tariel, On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:58:43 +0200 Klaus Major wrote: OK Klaus, I'll leave write / read triggers and saving place for you to decide. You are the list Poobah after all :) EXACTLY! And I strongly advise everyone to never forget this! :-D Right ! :) :-) Just when and if you would

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-19 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Tariel, ... OK Klaus, I'll leave write / read triggers and saving place for you to decide. You are the list Poobah after all :) EXACTLY! And I strongly advise everyone to never forget this! :-D As for script I posted yesterday which is using OpenStacks to register stack locations on

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-19 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:58:43 +0200 Klaus Major wrote: OK Klaus, I'll leave write / read triggers and saving place for you to decide. You are the list Poobah after all :) EXACTLY! And I strongly advise everyone to never forget this! :-D Right ! :) Just when and if you would implement it,

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: Well, the question is where to save this information. The least intrusive method would be probably to external file? In this case something like script below may probably do it... Sorry, I wrote that script off the top of my head, the

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Tariel, On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:12:41 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: ... So, in case read / write IDE stack positions to external file is acceptable idea, any thoughts about .. 1) what should be the trigger to write IDE stack positions to file? shutdownRequest in Home stack? ) I think

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Robert Brenstein
2) What should be the trigger to read external file ? (preOpenStack in McTools.mc and home stacks? home sounds good, since this will be loaded first anyway. shouldn't this be handled by prefs handler? Or may be somebody has better idea where to save such info? In to the platform-specific

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, 2) What should be the trigger to read external file ? (preOpenStack in McTools.mc and home stacks? home sounds good, since this will be loaded first anyway. shouldn't this be handled by prefs handler? ??? Did not know that there is a special kind of script called pref handler

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Robert Brenstein
Did not know that there is a special kind of script called pref handler ;-) There is a stack with preferences. I forget how those are put in effect but if all preferences are kept in an external file (if I understood you correctly), then these have to be combined. Of course I meant to put

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, Did not know that there is a special kind of script called pref handler ;-) There is a stack with preferences. Ah, that's what you meant. I forget how those are put in effect but if all preferences are kept in an external file (if I understood you correctly), then these have

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-18 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:08:47 +0200 Klaus Major wrote: 1) what should be the trigger to write IDE stack positions to file? shutdownRequest in Home stack? ) I think mctools will be the candidate for writing prefs. The user might close the home stack to gain screen space before quitting

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-17 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:12:41 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: As for the rest of my post, you are right, it's better to keep such modifications personal and handle them in either plugIn or front Script or the script of stack home. Well, I did kind of like your idea about saving the positions

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-16 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Schenkel wrote: Since I don't have any previous Metacard license (though I do have a Revolution Enterprise license), what exacly should I do to create a Metacard 2.8.1? As Klaus mentioned, a MC license isn't required any more for

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-16 Thread David Bovill
How about what the marketing people would say - give on a .mc extension and colour it yellow or soemthing and the other one a .rev extension and colour it blue? Talking of which - how do you tell which environment you are in? If there is no way can I suggest we have something in the backscript

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-16 Thread Ken Ray
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:23:26 +0100, David Bovill wrote: How about what the marketing people would say - give on a .mc extension and colour it yellow or soemthing and the other one a .rev extension and colour it blue? Talking of which - how do you tell which environment you are in? You

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-16 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:28:48 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: 4) When I tried to save home stack in MC IDE created with metacard_setup I got can't open stack backup file error. Recently I'm getting such error from time to time in my version of MC IDE as well, so it may have something with my

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: As soon as I tried to save home stack I got can't open stack backup file error, same error that I'm getting from time to time in my MC IDE. The second attempt to save is always successful which probably excludes Permissions. Still It seems related to my computer

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jaqueline, I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ This stack will automate setting up the MC IDE and installing the latest Revolution engine. There are several options available; for

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ This stack will automate setting up the MC IDE and installing the latest Revolution engine. There

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jan, ... you find them. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay Wonderful news, Jacque - I know I'm only lurking here on this list, and am using Revolution aés my main working environment, but I've always been intrigued by Metacard and the power hidden under its 'spartan' user interface. Since I

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jaqueline, ... Works like a charm, but I got an error Installation failed: Could not rename Revolution engine. can't rename file when I selected Use the currently running Revolution. No problem when selecting Rev manually. Sorry, my fault, I was executing this from MetaCard, no

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
With a little fear and trepidation I downloaded and installed successfully! In the introduction it would be reassuiring to say that the existing Rev installation won't be touched? In my igorance, which could possibly (but I'm sure unlikely) be shared by future users, I wrongly selected the:

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with preferences at some point? Robert

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ This stack will automate setting up the MC IDE and installing the latest Revolution engine. There are several options available; for example, you can

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with preferences at some

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
If the Finder window is closed during the installation there's no problem. If anyone knows how to fix that, I'll implement it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Isn't it possible to close the Finder

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
Hi Robert, But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with preferences at some

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, Hi Robert, But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Shari
I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jan Schenkel wrote: Since I don't have any previous Metacard license (though I do have a Revolution Enterprise license), what exacly should I do to create a Metacard 2.8.1? As Klaus mentioned, a MC license isn't required any more for engines after version 2.7. So you should be able to use

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Klaus Major wrote: Hi Jaqueline, ... Works like a charm, but I got an error Installation failed: Could not rename Revolution engine. can't rename file when I selected Use the currently running Revolution. No problem when selecting Rev manually. Sorry, my fault, I was executing this from

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Bovill wrote: With a little fear and trepidation I downloaded and installed successfully! In the introduction it would be reassuiring to say that the existing Rev installation won't be touched? Sure, I'll do that. In my igorance, which could possibly (but I'm sure unlikely) be

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Robert Brenstein wrote: If the Finder window is closed during the installation there's no problem. If anyone knows how to fix that, I'll implement it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Isn't it

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Shari wrote: Is this the thing I was supposed to tackle but you've done it far beyond what I would have done? Don't think so, but I can't remember what it was that you were going to do. There was something or other you mentioned about the IDE -- and of course, as soon as one mentions

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Klaus Major wrote: Will this also run with engines 2.7? Not that I'd need it ;-) Forgot to answer this. It should work okay with earlier engines since the process is the same. The dictionary import should also be okay, it recognizes all documentation formats back to Rev 2.0. I wouldn't

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Wow Jacque, Great program. Can't be any more painless than that! Worked great here on XP. Thanks, :-) ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:23:50 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ WOW, awesome !! Great work

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: WOW, awesome !! Great work Jacque. Thanks. :) Some notes: 1. May be on Mac OS it makes sense to open Tools palette by default on startup as well ? This would be something the group should vote on to add to the home stack. I generally prefer not to have the

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
J. Landman Gay wrote: Suppose we change the Home stack so that it looks in the Plugins folder for a specially-named plugin when it first opens. If it finds a plugin with the right name, it opens the stack automatically. Oh, never mind. I just remembered you can set up the Plugins Manager to

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-14 Thread Ken Ray
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:23:50 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ That's great, Jacque! This is something we've needed for a while now, and I'm glad you

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
Ken Ray wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:23:50 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ That's great, Jacque! This is something we've needed for a while now, and