Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jaqueline, I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ This stack will automate setting up the MC IDE and installing the latest Revolution engine. There are several options available; for

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ This stack will automate setting up the MC IDE and installing the latest Revolution engine. There

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jan, ... you find them. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay Wonderful news, Jacque - I know I'm only lurking here on this list, and am using Revolution aés my main working environment, but I've always been intrigued by Metacard and the power hidden under its 'spartan' user interface. Since I

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jaqueline, ... Works like a charm, but I got an error Installation failed: Could not rename Revolution engine. can't rename file when I selected Use the currently running Revolution. No problem when selecting Rev manually. Sorry, my fault, I was executing this from MetaCard, no

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
With a little fear and trepidation I downloaded and installed successfully! In the introduction it would be reassuiring to say that the existing Rev installation won't be touched? In my igorance, which could possibly (but I'm sure unlikely) be shared by future users, I wrongly selected the:

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with preferences at some point? Robert

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ This stack will automate setting up the MC IDE and installing the latest Revolution engine. There are several options available; for example, you can

Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
A few related questions: 1. How and where are the ask and answer dialogs called? Are the stack names fixed in the engine (now that would be a bad idea) - or is it a script in the IDE? If so can't we just rename these stacks and hack the script - so we can have both IDEs open at the same

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with preferences at some

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi David, A few related questions: How and where are the ask and answer dialogs called? Surprisingly they are named Answer dialog and Ask dialog :-) But the stack/file names are different, see below. Are the stack names fixed in the engine (now that would be a bad idea) I'm afraid this

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
If the Finder window is closed during the installation there's no problem. If anyone knows how to fix that, I'll implement it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Isn't it possible to close the Finder

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, There are one or two experts who tried this. It appears that closing the Rev IDE and firing up the MC IDE isn't that much of a problem. Closing the MC IDE and restarting the Rev IDE with all globals, locals, properties and everything else in place is a big hassle. Until now too big a

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Robert Brenstein
Hi Robert, But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with preferences at some

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
On 15/07/07, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the stack names fixed in the engine (now that would be a bad idea) I'm afraid this is the case. OK - that officially sucks MC uses other differnet stacks (stored as Answer dialog and Ask dialog as substacks of mctools.mc) than Rev

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, Hi Robert, But I suggest that we remove the Demo button, since we do not want to include the sin of Mr. KM's youth (and that does NOT stand for Klaus Major) a.k.a. MetaCard Demo in the distribution, do we?! :-D Wasn't demo replaced (or supposed to be replaced) with

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi David, On 15/07/07, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the stack names fixed in the engine (now that would be a bad idea) I'm afraid this is the case. OK - that officially sucks Not as much as you might think. You can of course create your own dialogs, as long as they are

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
On 15/07/07, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are one or two experts who tried this. It appears that closing the Rev IDE and firing up the MC IDE isn't that much of a problem. Closing the MC IDE and restarting the Rev IDE with all globals, locals, properties and everything else

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread Ken Ray
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:03:03 +0200, Klaus Major wrote: Can't we just switch between the two - toggling library scripts In fact taking that to an extreme - what would it take to make a plugin that closed down the Rev IDe and launched the MC IDE, and vice versa? Richard has been working on

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread Ken Ray
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:09:13 +0200, Klaus Major wrote: Does anyone know where RunRev stores the stackfile associations (which stack) - I think there is no way of finding out other than searching each stack. In the stackfiles of stack home Also keep in mind that this is in Rev only; in MC

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
Can't imagine what that could be? After all if Jerry can do it with Galaxy then it can be done with MC can as well? Dialogs... seems to me that if you dynamically hack out the stackfiles lines in RunRev: Ask Dialog,/Users/david/Desktop/Revolution Studio/2.8.1-gm-1/Toolset/revaskdialog.rev

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Shari
I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Answer and Ask Dialogues

2007-07-15 Thread David Bovill
OK - I am not sure yet what is NOT working, but a lot is. I have the Rev IDE up and I can switch between the Rev and MC default menubars on OSX and choose between Galaxy, Rev and MC script editors - so not sure yet what the problem requiring two different installs is? I am sure I will find it :)

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jan Schenkel wrote: Since I don't have any previous Metacard license (though I do have a Revolution Enterprise license), what exacly should I do to create a Metacard 2.8.1? As Klaus mentioned, a MC license isn't required any more for engines after version 2.7. So you should be able to use

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Klaus Major wrote: Hi Jaqueline, ... Works like a charm, but I got an error Installation failed: Could not rename Revolution engine. can't rename file when I selected Use the currently running Revolution. No problem when selecting Rev manually. Sorry, my fault, I was executing this from

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Bovill wrote: With a little fear and trepidation I downloaded and installed successfully! In the introduction it would be reassuiring to say that the existing Rev installation won't be touched? Sure, I'll do that. In my igorance, which could possibly (but I'm sure unlikely) be

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Robert Brenstein wrote: If the Finder window is closed during the installation there's no problem. If anyone knows how to fix that, I'll implement it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Isn't it

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Shari wrote: Is this the thing I was supposed to tackle but you've done it far beyond what I would have done? Don't think so, but I can't remember what it was that you were going to do. There was something or other you mentioned about the IDE -- and of course, as soon as one mentions

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Klaus Major wrote: Will this also run with engines 2.7? Not that I'd need it ;-) Forgot to answer this. It should work okay with earlier engines since the process is the same. The dictionary import should also be okay, it recognizes all documentation formats back to Rev 2.0. I wouldn't

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Wow Jacque, Great program. Can't be any more painless than that! Worked great here on XP. Thanks, :-) ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:23:50 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've just uploaded my version of the MetaCard Setup stack to the MC_IDE area on Yahoo Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/ WOW, awesome !! Great work

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: WOW, awesome !! Great work Jacque. Thanks. :) Some notes: 1. May be on Mac OS it makes sense to open Tools palette by default on startup as well ? This would be something the group should vote on to add to the home stack. I generally prefer not to have the

Re: Automated setup file uploaded

2007-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
J. Landman Gay wrote: Suppose we change the Home stack so that it looks in the Plugins folder for a specially-named plugin when it first opens. If it finds a plugin with the right name, it opens the stack automatically. Oh, never mind. I just remembered you can set up the Plugins Manager to