Option button oddity
I've encountered an oddity with an option button. The button has 7 lines of choices - always. This never varies. Though the text of the choices do change. On openCard, it takes the contents of a field, which is the current 7 choices, and puts it in the button. Most of the time, the button works fine. But every so often, when you click on the button, it only shows 5 choices, with a scrollbar to get to the other 2, and clicking on the scrollbar either doesn't work, or produces an error. The button almost looks like a field with the scrollbar, instead of an option button. If you leave the card and come back, sometimes it will go back to the way it should be. Has anyone encountered this? Is there a fix? Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Menu bar moving when starting script editor
Title: Menu bar moving when starting script editor I am running MC 2.3.2 for Win32. For some reason when I invoke the editor after loading my stack the menu bar moves and it changes to a full height title bar. Three questions: 1. What is the style of the MetaCard Menu Bar supposed to be (palette or toplevel)? 2. Is the menu bar supposed to be full-height or half-height? 3. Where can I check to see what might be causing the menu bar to move? Larry Huisingh
Supercard porting
Hi all, What is the version of the oldest "Fat" Supercard, and where to find it? How to port supercard stacks to MC? Thanks, Seppe
Re: Supercard porting
Seppe Soleme wrote: How to port supercard stacks to MC? http://www.RunRev.com/revolution/developers/articles/movingtools/supercard. html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Printing on OSX
I can't remember if I tested the print command on OSX before. I know it works on PPC and Windows. I could swear it worked on OSX as well (I can't imagine NOT testing it), but for some reason, it fails. And other things print in OSX, such as a TextEdit doc. So I know the printer is functioning properly. Why would the following fail? It stops the printer, and then the printer won't print anything, from any program, until I start it again. on mouseUp # put a bunch of data into the variable spit put empty into cd fld 1 of cd Strats of stack HSPrint of stack Blackjack Gold set the cursor to busy lock messages go invisible cd 2 of stack HSPrint of stack Blackjack Gold as topLevel set the topLeft of stack HSPrint to the topLeft of stack Blackjack Goldie set the decorations of stack HSPrint to title,minimize,maximize,menu show stack HSPrint unlock messages put spit into cd fld 1 of cd Strats of stack HSPrint of stack Blackjack Gold put the topLeft of stack HSPrint into startPt put the bottomRight of stack HSPrint into endPt set the printScale to .90 set the printMargins to 36,36,36,36 go stack HSPrint # added after it didn't work, hoping to make it work print cd 2 of stack HSPrint from startPt to endPt end mouseUp -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Supercard porting
I belive it is SC 3.6.1; you'd have to contact http://supercard.us to find out how to get it. Right now they're selling 4.1.1... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seppe Soleme Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Supercard porting Hi all, What is the version of the oldest Fat Supercard, and where to find it? How to port supercard stacks to MC? Thanks, Seppe ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
PS: Blogs are very hot right now. FreeCard has its own blog now, at : http://www.communautic.uqam.ca/blog/ . A blog is similar to a wiki, and many existing blogs were crafted with wiki source-code. But the 'kicker' is that all blogs ( apparently some wikis too) can be remotely controlled via any client that supports XML-RPC, and ... I've just started a project to craft such a client with MetaCard. IOW, you will soon be able to use my MC-stack to edit blogs and wikis, from within MetaCard FreeGUI, without the need for a *separate* web-browser or e-mail client. I've been using blogger for a couple of years now - got an MC XML_RPC client somewhere which your welcome to. We've just added an XML-RPC interface to a Zope powered WIKI and will be releasing that open source (most likely public domain) as soon as it's all integrated with the CVS servers. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
Hello David, I've been using blogger for a couple of years now... You knew about blogs *two years* ago. Wow! You are way ahead of your time, David. IOW, you're a *genius* ! got an MC XML_RPC client somewhere which you're welcome to. Amazing! Superbe! Beyond my *wildest* expectations! :)) Please locate this gem for me, ASAP, because Im working actively on my MC-based blog client, as we speak. Plus I have a blog up-and-running which, so far, I can only use via its poorly-made web interface. We've just added an XML-RPC interface to a Zope powered WIKI... This is a *fascinating* revelation, David. :)) I am familiar with Zope. We have a Zope expert on our team whose name is Nicolas Marchildon. If you have any tech difficulties related to Zope, then don't hesitate to contact him thru me. ... and will be releasing that open source (most likely public domain) ... Public Domain, eh! Admit it, David : I have had a (+) influence on you. ;-) ... as soon as it's all integrated with the CVS servers. I am raptly interested, David. Please notify as soon as it becomes available to the public. Count me among the testers if indeed you need some testers. Admiratively, Alain Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Printing on OSX
On 6/5/03 1:57 PM, Shari wrote: Why would the following fail? It stops the printer, and then the printer won't print anything, from any program, until I start it again. I don't have an answer, but I can verify that the same thing happens in one of my stacks -- and only one. Other stacks print fine. I haven't yet figured out where the problem is, but it existed back in MC 2.4.3. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
TabStops
Many months ago I seem to recall a discussion taking place about tabstops and tab alignment. With MC2.5 there's doesn't appear to have been any change to the tabstops property and I'm wondering if one solution might be to use left, right and center as modifiers for the numerical parameters, to stay in keeping with text alignment. For example: set the tabStops of fld 1 to 50left,100right,250center Maybe one could abbreviate the modifiers with L/R/C: set the tabStops of fld 1 to L50,R100,C250 Or did I just miss something in a ReadMe?... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Printing on OSX
I don't have an answer, but I can verify that the same thing happens in one of my stacks -- and only one. Other stacks print fine. I haven't yet figured out where the problem is, but it existed back in MC 2.4.3. Does the stack print correctly in other versions of MC? Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
(no subject)
Hi One to keep an eye on: http://sourceforge.net/projects/svgui/ Cheers Monte Goulding B.App.Sc. (Hons.) Executive Director Sweat Technologies email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.sweattechnologies.com mobile (International): +61 421 138 274 (Australia): 0421 138 274 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Importing ( streamlining) EPS
on Thu Jun 5 04:26:00 2003 jbv wrote: in the EPStoMetacard stack (I'm not sure I'm using the last version though), and more specifically in the bezier handler, is there a way to modify the equations used to get x values (and the corresponding y values) EQUALLY SPACED on the x axis ? There are other formulas to calculate the bezier points. I'll check my files to see if I find them. I know I could use the handler as it is and then perform linear interpolation, but I'd like to compute the values on 1 single pass... Can you give us an example of this linear interpolation? By the way jbv, you made a demostration of openGL in MetaCard. Are you going to keep working in this demo? or Abandoned the idea? Alejandro = Useful sites: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/ and /revolution/tips/ http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/ and /use-revolution/ http://wiki.macitworks.com/revdocs http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Option button oddity
Shari, There is one simple solution but it's not for every use... though I dont see why not... Here's the script I include in all my option buttons: on mouseenter -- any preconfig -- get the number of lines in me if it the menulines of me then set the menulines of me to it pass mouseenter end mouseenter this will make the first x lines always visible in your menu. -=- Xavier Bury TNS NT LAN Server ext 6465 Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/03 16:14 Please respond to metacard To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:^ Subject:Option button oddity I've encountered an oddity with an option button. The button has 7 lines of choices - always. This never varies. Though the text of the choices do change. On openCard, it takes the contents of a field, which is the current 7 choices, and puts it in the button. Most of the time, the button works fine. But every so often, when you click on the button, it only shows 5 choices, with a scrollbar to get to the other 2, and clicking on the scrollbar either doesn't work, or produces an error. The button almost looks like a field with the scrollbar, instead of an option button. If you leave the card and come back, sometimes it will go back to the way it should be. Has anyone encountered this? Is there a fix? Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER
Re: Option button oddity
I see you didn't set it just once, but have it reset itself on entry. Have you had a problem with buttons resetting themselves? No, I just got tired of scrolling that stupid menu which doesn't obey natural keyboard or mouse-wheel rules! ;) Boy, was I glad to find that property 2 years after working with MC!!! Just as annoying but it might have been fixed in some objects is the way MC will forget your last selection... thus everywhere... on mouseenter... ... -=- Xavier Bury TNS NT LAN Server ext 6465 Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/06/03 16:20 Please respond to metacard To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:^ Subject:Re: Option button oddity Shari, I see you didn't set it just once, but have it reset itself on entry. Have you had a problem with buttons resetting themselves? Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER
Re: TabStops
That's a great idea, Scott. Exactly what I've been hoping for. Craig Many months ago I seem to recall a discussion taking place about tabstops and tab alignment. With MC2.5 there's doesn't appear to have been any change to the tabstops property and I'm wondering if one solution might be to use left, right and center as modifiers for the numerical parameters, to stay in keeping with text alignment. For example: set the tabStops of fld 1 to 50left,100right,250center Maybe one could abbreviate the modifiers with L/R/C: set the tabStops of fld 1 to L50,R100,C250 Or did I just miss something in a ReadMe?... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
Do you mean creating a server side implementation or did any one use it :) I've not used MC to create server side blog/Wiki stuff -- it's already been done, but adding custom stuff to the core structure is I think a more productive line to take. On the end-user side, I've never been a fan of Wikis, but liked Blog's, which is strange as I'm working on wiki based stuff at the moment. Blog's have proved more succesful in the short term, but the technologies are merging. Wikis especially annoy me as they bring out in the starkest terms, how awful browsers are at producing responsive interfaces - you can do it so much better in MC. Think you can get the best in both worlds by producing value added clients in MC, with the option of using the web interface if you really have to. Did anyone bother with a metacard based weblog or wiki? Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Printing on OSX
On 6/5/03 5:47 PM, Shari wrote: I don't have an answer, but I can verify that the same thing happens in one of my stacks -- and only one. Other stacks print fine. I haven't yet figured out where the problem is, but it existed back in MC 2.4.3. Does the stack print correctly in other versions of MC? I didn't try it on anything except my Mac. If I get a chance, I'll hook up my Windows box to a printer and try it from there, but it may be a while. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
--On Friday, June 06, 2003 16:46:02 +0100 David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean creating a server side implementation or did any one use it :) Server side I meant. I did a basic one a while ago in a couple of hours just to see what would involve. I've not used MC to create server side blog/Wiki stuff -- it's already been done, but adding custom stuff to the core structure is I think a more productive line to take. On the end-user side, I've never been a fan of Wikis, but liked Blog's, which is strange as I'm working on wiki based stuff at the moment. Blog's have proved more succesful in the short term, but the technologies are merging. Well, wikis are meant to do a different thing (i.e. documenting a group project), weblogs are personal expression. I'm not too crazy about wikis myself though if they are well designed they could be useful and easy to use. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
MC CGI system requirements
During a system upgrade at my ISP my MC CGIs are no longer working. While I'm still diagnosing the issue with my ISP, at the moment it appears to be related to a problem Ken had in which his ISP had not installed certain libraries with their BSD installation. Since apparently an ISP can have a functional BSD server running that's still missing libs MC requires, what are the complete system requirements for MC? The system requirements at http://www.metacard.com/pi5.html provide few details. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC CGI system requirements
--On Friday, June 06, 2003 10:48:18 -0700 Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During a system upgrade at my ISP my MC CGIs are no longer working. While I'm still diagnosing the issue with my ISP, at the moment it appears to be related to a problem Ken had in which his ISP had not installed certain libraries with their BSD installation. Since apparently an ISP can have a functional BSD server running that's still missing libs MC requires, what are the complete system requirements for MC? Telnet to where mc is on the server and do: ldd mc. It will list the availabe and missing libraries. The system requirements at http://www.metacard.com/pi5.html provide few details. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Importing ( streamlining) EPS
on Thursday Jun 5 04:26:00 2003 jbv wrote: [snip] in the bezier handler, is there a way to modify the equations used to get x values (and the corresponding y values) EQUALLY SPACED on the x axis ? Here is an answer: http://www.tinaja.com/text/bezchord.html The description is: (C) The CONSTANT CHORD method uses successive approximations of method (B) to break the spline up into chords of virtually identical length. This method is non obvious and computationally intensive. But the results are easily distilled and compiled. If some of the participants in this list have a reading knowledge of postscript languaje, then this is the solution. on Fri Jun 6 03:06:00 2003 Xavier Bury wrote: [snip] here is a web page that describes another approach which is more formal and probably more correct for other applications where time is involved for example... http://www.cs.brown.edu/stc/outrea/greenhouse/ nursery/interpolation/formal.html Thanks Xavier, Do you have a working example? The list of coordinates that produces the bezier handler is uneven. Short segments in the extreme and long segments in the middle of the list of coordinates. I'm not sure how the curve will look like if you made all segments of the same longitude. But Don Lancaster has code for this. So lets wait for an explanation... or translation to MetaTalk code. Alejandro = Useful sites: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/ and /revolution/tips/ http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/ and /use-revolution/ http://wiki.macitworks.com/revdocs http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Last MC minux-ppc available issue, please !
Hello List, Friends, I'm searching for two things that could realy help me : The 2.4 issue of the mchome.mc, mctools.mc and mchelp.mc stacks, The last complete issue of MC for the linux-ppc platform (2.4.1, if i right remember). Could anyone, here, be kind enough to send theses files as email ? Thanks a lot for the help, Pierre -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Applications WEB et ERP personnalisés Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
Well, wikis are meant to do a different thing (i.e. documenting a group project), weblogs are personal expression. I'm not too crazy about wikis myself though if they are well designed they could be useful and easy to use. Regards, Andu Novac A couple of interesting links regarding blogs, wikis and the properties of the communities they build: About weblogs and emergent properties based on interlinking blogs: http://joi.ito.com/joiwiki/WeblogsAndEmergence Also: http://joi.ito.com/joiwiki/EmergentDemocracyPaper#head-3bd437ddf02c9bbb4b81 3fc7dbb8c90fea977f7e Some comments on the way wiki's are going... http://www.mcgeesmusings.net/2003/05/29.html - wikis down the bottom of thee page. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Last MC linux-ppc available issue, please !
Hello List, Friends, I'm searching for two things that could really help me : The 2.4 issue of the mchome.mc, mctools.mc and mchelp.mc stacks, The last complete issue of MC for the linux-ppc platform (2.4.1, if i right remember). Could anyone, here, be kind enough to send theses files as email ? Thanks a lot for the help, Pierre -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Applications WEB et ERP personnalisés Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Last MC linux-ppc available issue, please !
Pierre Sahores wrote: I'm searching for two things that could really help me : The 2.4 issue of the mchome.mc, mctools.mc and mchelp.mc stacks, The last complete issue of MC for the linux-ppc platform (2.4.1, if i right remember). Could anyone, here, be kind enough to send theses files as email ? I don't have the version you're looking for, but since such requests come up from time to time it begs the question: Could metacard.com archive old versions, at least a few versions back? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Printing on OSX
I don't have an answer, but I can verify that the same thing happens in one of my stacks -- and only one. Other stacks print fine. I haven't yet figured out where the problem is, but it existed back in MC 2.4.3. Does the stack print correctly in other versions of MC? I didn't try it on anything except my Mac. If I get a chance, I'll hook up my Windows box to a printer and try it from there, but it may be a while. Jacque, I meant other versions of MC besides 2.4.3. My stack prints on Windows, but not OSX. Both using 2.4.3. I haven't had a chance to see if it will print in an earler/later version of MC. Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC CGI system requirements
andu wrote: Since apparently an ISP can have a functional BSD server running that's still missing libs MC requires, what are the complete system requirements for MC? Telnet to where mc is on the server and do: ldd mc. It will list the availabe and missing libraries. Thank you, but sadly my ISP doesn't support Telnet at this time (security reasons). More to the point, wouldn't this information seem relevant for inclusion in the system requirements shown at metacard.com? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Printing on OSX
On 6/6/03 2:13 PM, Shari wrote: I meant other versions of MC besides 2.4.3. My stack prints on Windows, but not OSX. Both using 2.4.3. I haven't had a chance to see if it will print in an earler/later version of MC. I don't have any older versions around any more, but the problem happens in 2.5 also. I should have send in a bug report long ago, but since there's no problem on other stacks, and since the stack that has the problem is just a personal utility that I almost never use, I keep forgetting about it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC CGI system requirements
--On Friday, June 06, 2003 12:18:45 -0700 Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andu wrote: Since apparently an ISP can have a functional BSD server running that's still missing libs MC requires, what are the complete system requirements for MC? Telnet to where mc is on the server and do: ldd mc. It will list the availabe and missing libraries. Thank you, but sadly my ISP doesn't support Telnet at this time (security reasons). Try ssh, they must support that. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Importing ( streamlining) EPS
Alejandro, Can you give us an example of this linear interpolation? At the end of this message you'll find the Bezier handler I'm using. The linear interpolation works although it's still a bit crude and needs some more fine tuning. I haven't had a look yet at the other approach you mentioned in your last email, but if that new solution is really computationally intensive, I guess I'll stick with linear interpolation which isn't too slow after all... By the way jbv, you made a demostration of openGL in MetaCard. Are you going to keep working in this demo? or Abandoned the idea? Well, it's a long story. About 6 months ago, I was planing to develop this openGL thing within a project for a client. It seemed like a good opportunity to make some applied research financed by a real life project. Unfortunately, the client abandonned the project and I found myself overflooded with other things to do and had to put the idea on a shelf for a while. Now I'm working on it at home in my spare time (using Code Warrior on a Mac), and of course things have been slowed down by several orders of magnitude. It's quite irritating because it opens a fantastic new world... Anyway, if anyone is willing to sponsor this research, please contact me off-list... Thanks, JB -- on bezier global variablezxc,a,b,c,d,Vsteps put a cr b cr c cr d put the first item of a into x1 -- red dot the first item of the loc of grc startpoint put the first item of d into x2 -- blue dot the first item of the loc of grc endpoint put the first item of b into xa -- green dot the first item of the loc of grc control1 put the first item of c into xb -- yellow dot the first item of the loc of grc control2 put the second item of a into y1 put the second item of d into y2 put the second item of b into ya put the second item of c into yb put 20 into Nsteps put 0 into v1 put(1/Nsteps)into j put into n put into nv Repeat with i = 1 TO Nsteps put i*j into v1 put v1 into line i of n put 1-v1 into v2 put v1*v1*v2 into v11 put v1*v2*v2 into v22 put(v2^3)into v3 put(v1^3)into v13 put (x1*v3+(3*xa*v22)+(3*xb*v11)+(x2*v13))into x put (y1*v3+(3*ya*v22)+(3*yb*v11)+(y2*v13))into y put x div 1,y div 1 return after variablezxc end repeat -- REMOVES similar successive pairs of values repeat with i=(number of lines of variablezxc) down to 2 if line i of variablezxc is not then if line i of variablezxc = line i-1 of variablezxc then delete line i of variablezxc end if end if end repeat -- INITIALIZES step value AND fixed x values put trunc(abs(item 1 of last line of variablezxc-item 1 of first line of variablezxc)/Nsteps) into v put into Vsteps repeat with i=1 to Nsteps put item 1 of first line of variablezxc+(i*v) into item 1 of line i of Vsteps end repeat put item 1 of first line of variablezxc cr before Vsteps -- COMPUTES linear interpolation on y values according to new x values repeat with j=1 to (number of lines of Vsteps)-1 repeat with i=1 to number of lines of variablezxc if item 1 of line i of Vsteps = item 1 of line j of variablezxc then put item 2 of line i of variablezxc into item 2 of line i of Vsteps next repeat else if (item 1 of line i of Vsteps item 1 of line j of variablezxc) and (item 1 of line i of Vsteps item 1 of line (j+1) of variablezxc) then put item 1 of line j of variablezxc into x1 put item 1 of line (j+1) of variablezxc into x2 put item 2 of line j of variablezxc into y1 put item 2 of line (j+1) of variablezxc into y2 put trunc(y1+((y2-y1)*((item 1 of line i of Vsteps-x1)/(x2-x1 into item 2 of line i of Vsteps end if end if end repeat end repeat put item 2 of last line of variablezxc into item 2 of last line of Vsteps put Vsteps cr cr variablezxc end bezier ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
| From: Alain Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: php wikis | | ... and will be releasing that open source | (most likely public domain) ... | | Public Domain, eh! Admit it, David : I have had a (+) | influence on you. ;-) | | ... as soon as it's all integrated | with the CVS servers. | | I am raptly interested, David. Please notify as soon | as it becomes available to the public. Count me among | the testers if indeed you need some testers. Yo! Another interested party here ... We're using a wiki to create a user extensible software manual (ah, you know me, love documentation), so end users can add their own note pages to the manual. It's an old wiki and infortunately, in-line images don't work. I've seen some newer ones where that does work (heh .. including the place where we got this one a couple years ago, It's Ward Cunningham's, is that the right spelling?) and I've looked at some newer ones like Swiki but this sounds very interesting. Hmmm... yes, it would be cool if I could give the users a nice MC tool for manual updates, searching etc. Anyway, just another 2 cents. Sadhu ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
Hello David, Andu, and y'all, I've not used MC to create server side blog/Wiki stuff -- it's already been done... Please, please, I *beg* you to give us some URLs to have a look at these MetaCard-based blog/Wiki servers. ... but adding custom stuff to the core structure is I think a more productive line to take. Sounds interesting. Let's discuss this further. On the end-user side, I've never been a fan of Wikis, but liked Blog's, which is strange as I'm working on wiki based stuff at the moment. Blog's have proved more succesful in the short term... That's odd! My experience is exactly the contrary. Blogs are like un-threaded forums. The messages just pile in one after the other, most recent one on the top. A lot of 'publishing' systems like Xoops also share this same paradigm. Wikis, OTOH, are more like a editable website. The content is divided into hyperlinked pages. The info becomes hierarchically organized (a good thing) without sacrificing any of the hyper-linking to any other page or site. The knowledge being built with the wiki has a stable feel to it, and bits of it can be subsequently tweaked as many times as you like; whereas, in blogs, only the admin has the power to modify the content of the contributions. What I don't like about wikis, or rather the ones I have used so far, is that the web interface is the *only* way to interact with the wiki; whereas the blog can also be mailed to or accessed by any XML-RPC client. But I have since discovered that there are wikis that also do XML-RPC. Without this 'automation' potential, making global changes in a wiki is a nightmare. You literally have to go to each-and-every page as any 'user' would. Which is why I am still interested in systems like Zope. A global change of a footer on [a subset of] all pages is a cinch with Zope : all you have to do is change one file in the appropriate place in the object hierarchy. ...but the technologies are merging. Many blogs were started by forking some wiki code. As for merging, I am not sure it would be a good idea. They each have their own particular 'charm' (e.g. uses). Wikis especially annoy me as they bring out in the starkest terms, how awful browsers are at producing responsive interfaces - you can do it so much better in MC. My guess is that you're interacting with your blogs with a MC-client, whereas the wikis you have used only have a web interface. If so, you have not founf the right wiki yet, e.g. the ones you can remote control with XML-RPC. Think you can get the best in both worlds by producing value added clients in MC, with the option of using the web interface if you really have to. Very well summed up, David. Value added clients in MC for those customers who are open-minded, AND the lesser option of using the web interface for those conservative customers who are still *clinging* to their favorite web browser (just like Linus and his favorite blanket in the Peanuts). Regards y'all, Alain __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Last MC linux-ppc available issue, please !
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 20:56, Richard Gaskin wrote: Pierre Sahores wrote: I'm searching for two things that could really help me : The 2.4 issue of the mchome.mc, mctools.mc and mchelp.mc stacks, The last complete issue of MC for the linux-ppc platform (2.4.1, if i right remember). Could anyone, here, be kind enough to send theses files as email ? I don't have the version you're looking for, but since such requests come up from time to time it begs the question: Could metacard.com archive old versions, at least a few versions back? You right, Richard ! Is'nt it, Mister Raney ? Bests, Pierre ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Upload the Local Cache
I'm looking at using the following to upload an MC stack to a server: put ftp://;; tUser:tPword@tHost/tFileName / into tDestUrl put url (binfile:tLocalFile) into url tDestUrl Looks fine for a local file. But if you download a stack via go stack url xxx, how do you reference this cached stack to upload it back to the server? Is there a way to do this without saving it to the drive first? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
The last MC linux-ppc available issue : it's over. Thanks to all !
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 00:18, Ken Ray wrote: Pierre, Mark Talutto has an MC mirror at: www.canelasoftware.com/mcmirror.html You can DL the entire 2.4 build from there (he has 2.3.2, 2.4.1, 2.4.2, 2.4.3 and 2.5). Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierre Sahores Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Last MC linux-ppc available issue, please ! Hello List, Friends, I'm searching for two things that could really help me : The 2.4 issue of the mchome.mc, mctools.mc and mchelp.mc stacks, The last complete issue of MC for the linux-ppc platform (2.4.1, if i right remember). Could anyone, here, be kind enough to send theses files as email ? Thanks a lot for the help, Pierre -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Applications WEB et ERP personnalisés Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metac ard Thanks Andu, Ken, Mark, Richard ! The thread is over ;-) A nice week-end, Friends. Bests, Pierre ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
--On Friday, June 06, 2003 15:02:52 -0700 Alain Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello David, Andu, and y'all, snip That's odd! My experience is exactly the contrary. Blogs are like un-threaded forums. The messages just pile in one after the other, most recent one on the top. That's the thing, blogs are not meant to be forums (and I noticed the link you provided is just that) they are closer to a public journal so to speak (http://mental.archeopterix.com). I've seen proper weblogs with several members but the entries were more like short essays, not a conversation. For conversations you have mailing lists or forums. Wikis, OTOH, are more like a editable website. The content is divided into hyperlinked pages. The info becomes hierarchically organized (a good thing) without sacrificing any of the hyper-linking to any other page or site. The knowledge being built with the wiki has a stable feel to it, and bits of it can be subsequently tweaked as many times as you like; whereas, in blogs, only the admin has the power to modify the content of the contributions. Weblogs are not supposed to be edited in the way wikis are because... they are not wikis. What I don't like about wikis, or rather the ones I have used so far, is that the web interface is the *only* way to interact with the wiki; whereas the blog can also be mailed to or accessed by any XML-RPC client. But I have since discovered that there are wikis that also do XML-RPC. Without this 'automation' potential, making global changes in a wiki is a nightmare. You literally have to go to each-and-every page as any 'user' would. Which is why I am still interested in systems like Zope. A global change of a footer on [a subset of] all pages is a cinch with Zope : all you have to do is change one file in the appropriate place in the object hierarchy. I don't get it, you want to read the wiki in a browser but to edit it in a different application, why use wiki. The thing with the footer is just a matter of design, you can have the script insert a footer in all pages as they are served. I'm not a friend of html but I recently discovered the potential of css (kind of late, I know) and I do believe that good design can make a difference. Zope is great but it comes with a learning curve. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Upload the Local Cache
--On Friday, June 06, 2003 15:33:01 -0700 Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at using the following to upload an MC stack to a server: put ftp://;; tUser:tPword@tHost/tFileName / into tDestUrl put url (binfile:tLocalFile) into url tDestUrl Looks fine for a local file. But if you download a stack via go stack url xxx, how do you reference this cached stack to upload it back to the server? Is there a way to do this without saving it to the drive first? Something like this: put url xxx into temp go stack temp put temp into url tDestUrl Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
Hello Sadu, David, and y'all, Yo! Another interested party here ... So how about it, David. Do you have any download-URLs for us? Reading is fun and instructive, but we want to *play* with something. Some building blocks... ;-) We're using a wiki to create a user extensible software manual (ah, you know me, love docs), so end users can add their own note pages to the manual. Excellent way of using a wiki. :) It's an old wiki and infortunately, in-line images don't work. That's *really* old! All of the wikis Ive tested support inline images, even the simplest ones. I've seen some newer ones where that does work (heh .. including the place where we got this one a couple years ago... Pretty much *anywhere* you look. It's Ward Cunningham's... Who, as we all know, was inspired by HyperCard when he created the first wiki ever. What an impressive lineage HyperCard has, eh! Is that the right spelling? Yes. ... and I've looked at some newer ones like Swiki but this sounds very interesting. I have swiki installed on my server if you would like to try it. It has some nice features that many wikis do not have, such as : (1) the editing form includes a field to change the name of the page; (2) when you change it, the name of a page is replaced everywhere in the wiki, e.g. no broken links; (3) an automatic listing at the bottom of each page of the pages linked to the current page. I have been moving *away* from swiki, though, because it regularly froze my server, forcing me to reboot, notably when editing *long* pages. Hmmm... yes, it would be cool if I could give the users a nice MC tool for manual updates, searching etc. In terms of usage, I am solidly anchored into *wiki*. As for RD, in the short-term Im entirely focused on blogs. My blog plans are the following : 1. One MC-based blog client for blog-users ; 2. One MC-based blog client for blog-admins ; 3. One MC-based blog server. Any previous work done on any/all of the above that you could share with me/others would, therefore, be a great leap forward right now. Please act *immediately* so that I can avoid doing any un-necessary work.. Pretty please, with a cherry on top. ;-) I share David's aversion towards web stuff, particularly when compared to the web-applications we can accomplish with MetaCard. I am an ardent supporter and promoter of using an xCard on the client side as well as the server side. And I certainly don't count myself among those who still desperately cling to the web-browser as the one only means of making good use of the Internet. But.. it is clearly an uphill battle that we're facing. We have to soften the transition for those who are too insecure to let go of their web-browser 'blanket'. Hence, it is a good first step to make them realize that xCard-apps can vastly improve their current web habits. Blogging with a MC-based blog client, for example, is simpler and better than blogging via the blog's web interface. Downloading stacks from the Pantechnicon from within our inventory stack is another example. Once they grasped all of the advantages of our xCard approach to the web, by actually using them, then they may gradually move away from their web browser, in favour of our xCard clients, for most of their web-based activities. Java-based FreeCard will have an edge here, btw, given that Java applets can be imbedded into web pages, plus web browsing can be embedded into Java programs. I also discovered that JavaScript can be embedded into any Java program, including FreeCard, and therefore that one of FreeCard's scriptingLanguages will be JavaScript. This should appeal to those web-developers who are familiar with JavaScript because it will smooth their transition from web-pages (DOM) to xCards. Subversive eh! ;-) Alain __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: php wikis
Hello Andu and y'all, Weblogs are not supposed to be edited in the way wikis are because... they are not wikis. Good point, Andu. The gist of what I was getting at, though, is that the reason why David might prefer blogs over wikis is that wikis lack the automation of blogs. I don't get it, you want to read the wiki in a browser but to edit it in a different application, why use wiki. I am not sure what is so perplexing about this. I want to browse the wiki, plus make some changes to it on the fly, just like any other user. But, as an administrator of the wiki, who maintains and improves the orderliness of the wiki's content, I often need to make many changes at once and, in these cases, the web browser GUI of the wiki is NOT efficient. Changing the footer, for example. The thing with the footer is just a matter of design, you can have the script insert a footer in all pages as they are served. You can do this with a *wiki* ? If so, then I have chosen a bad example. Suppose someone referred to many times in the wiki suddenly changes his e-mail address? Or what if a contributor changes the domain-name of his server and, consequently, would break the URLs of their contributions (pan downloads). And so on. I'm not a friend of html but I recently discovered the potential of css... The idea is great. The implementation sucks. Or, less brutally, CSS has not been adopted integrally by any of the current web browsers and, therefore, lacks stability when deploying to many browsers on many platforms. (kind of late, I know)... I'll say. That ship passed eons ago. ;-) and I do believe that good design can make a difference. Who could argue with that! :) Zope is great but it comes with a learning curve. Yup! :( __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Help! Has anyone compiled an external for OS X?
A year ago, I worked on an external for PPC and for Windows. I remember that getting everything right was a nightmare, but I succeeded in compiling, debugging, testing, installing, and deploying both using Codewarrior. Now I need to make a new external for Mac OS X and I find I'm completely at sea. The 2.5 readme says: Externals must now be in Mach-O bundle format on Mac OS X. Updated projects are included in the Mac OS X package. No such thing. I downloaded the external.sit file. I saw that there is a CodeWarrior project and I thought, halleluiah, there really is a project already set up! I'll be able to see what libraries are needed and where to put the output. I'm in business! If you've tried it, you know what I discovered. The external.proj doesn't have a mach-o target, only a Carbon, a 68K, a PPC, a Fat target. There are some mach-o files in the external Data folder, but CodeWarrior won't do anything with them. The readme is the same old readme. The tutorial is the same old tutorial (that requires you to compile the external before it will guide experienced 'C' programmers through the process of customizing a MetaCard external Huh!). The source files are the same old source files. Once upon a time I was an experienced 'C' programmer. There are half a dozen money-earning apps out there to prove it. But the compilers have changed and the OS has changed while I've been grinding out MetaCard apps. Has total immersion in MetaCard dulled my mind? I'm flummoxed. Can anyone out there start me off with a CodeWarrior project that's set up to produce a MetaCard external for MacOS X, and a little guidance as to where/how to put the output binary? I have both CW 7 and CW 8. Exasperated again, tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Help! Has anyone compiled an external for OS X?
Tereza, I haven't built an mach-o external with Codewarrior for quite a while, but what I DO have are several examples in ProjectBuilder. If you're interested, I'll send you a small one off-list. As far as outputting the binary, what you want to do is: 1) Compile your external code as a MacOS "bundle", i.e. "MyExternal.bundle". 2) Set the 'externals' property of your stack to the path to the bundle. This can be a relative path, just as with images / movies etc. 3) Quit and reload the stack HTH -- Brian Yennie Chief Technology Officer QLD Learning, LLC www.QLDLearning.com PH: (904)-997-0212 EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Help! Has anyone compiled an external for OS X?
Well that's what I get for not looking first. Seems there is now a ProjectBuilder example in the external package. It looks like an oversight if the Mach-o target is missing from the CW project- there seems to be all the remnants of that target including settings and precompiled header files... unfortunately I don't have a machine with CW loaded at the moment to check it out. You *should* be able to add a target for a mach-o bundle and compile with the mach-o precompiled header in place of the Carbon, PPC, 68k, etc. You'll need to add frameworks (instead of libraries) to the target- i.e. Carbon.framework or others you may need such as Quicktime. Other than that, the example external code should compile into a bundle for you with little modification. Follow the install procedure from my previous email and you *should* be golden... HTH -- Brian Yennie Chief Technology Officer QLD Learning, LLC www.QLDLearning.com PH: (904)-997-0212 EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
