Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Richard, Monte, and y'all, What in FreeGUI has earned your recommendation to devote time to working on it? I haven't played with it much since last year, so I may well be missing something. For a die-hard HyperCard user forced to endure MC/RR's complexity, FreeGUI is the best interface

Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alain Farmer wrote: I have not been able to port FreeGUI to Rev What difficulties have you encountered? In theory it should be as simple as with MC, since they both use the same engine. As long as there is a naked (not bound to a standalone) engine you should be able to run FreeGUI well. I

RE: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
I still haven't thought of a reason to maintain the MetaCard IDE let alone the documentation. What in FreeGUI has earned your recommendation to devote time to working on it? I haven't played with it much since last year, so I may well be missing something. Nothing, I didn't recommend

Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/24/03 5:49 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 03:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I would guess Richard just meant the docs stack/s, not the whole environment... I'm questioning whether the Rev doc stacks would go willingly -- whether they have dependencies on the Rev

Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Yennie
Huh? That's exactly the point... it's a BETTER GUI (in some cases, not all) which absolutely can be used with the Revolution engine. So how exactly is anyone doing anything except choosing the best product? If the underlying issue here is with Hypercard stragglers from the past, I hardly think

Bezier Drawing tool

2003-08-25 Thread Meitnik
In a message dated 08/24/2003 10:01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: New tool proposal for the MetaCard IDE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi developers, Can I propose a Bezier Drawing tool for the MC ide? I could prepare something for the middle of the next week.

RE: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Huh? That's exactly the point... it's a BETTER GUI (in some cases, not all) which absolutely can be used with the Revolution engine. So how exactly is anyone doing anything except choosing the best product? If the underlying issue here is with Hypercard stragglers from the past, I hardly

Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Robert Brenstein
And on the improve-rev list, for example, there is currently a discussion about namespaces which would certainly benefit from the experience of the developers on this list; while the recent discussion of the 'do' etc script limits was split across both lists - I'm sure it would have been more

Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: If Revolution were modified so that only the basic functionality was implemented in the IDE and all other features were implemented as modules that could be turned off would that satisfy everyone? If so, perhaps we could develop a proposal for RunRev to implement such a

RE: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Robert Brenstein
After discussions off-list with Richard I've come to the conclusion that what a number of people really want is not MC but a stable base platform that offers the basic functionality. Public or private tools can then be added at will to improve workflow. If Revolution were modified so that only the

Re: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Yennie
Fair enough. It is frustrating encouraging the adoption of a new tool when undoubtedly some old users stay out of loyalty, habit, religion, whatever you want to call it. What can I say? If Windows really did undoubtedly surpass MacOS in every logical person's eyes, I might still cling to my

RE: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
After discussions off-list with Richard I've come to the conclusion that what a number of people really want is not MC but a stable base platform that offers the basic functionality. Public or private tools can then be added at will to improve workflow. If Revolution were modified so that only

Unicode problem--Japanese book

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas McCarthy
Up to MC 2.4 I was using the htmltext property to do all my Kanji, but it's a real drag. With 2.5 I tried the unicode feature, but have run into trouble--i.e. the Kanji for book, hon doesn't show up when I move it from one field to another via script. --strangely other kanji seem unaffected.

Re: The Scripters Scrapbook v3

2003-08-25 Thread wouter
Hi, It is good to transpose this one to Metacard/Revolution. One little suggestion would be not to change the look and feel because this changes the look and feel of all stacks in MC/Rev you working on while you are reading/searching in The Scripters Scrapbook. There are other (more laborious)

Re: Unicode problem--Japanese book

2003-08-25 Thread David Bovill
I think you need to use the unicodetext property not the text property: set the unicodetext of fld 1 to the unicodetext of fld 2 Thomas McCarthy wrote: Up to MC 2.4 I was using the htmltext property to do all my Kanji, but it's a real drag. With 2.5 I tried the unicode feature, but have run

RE: New tool proposal for the MetaCard IDE

2003-08-25 Thread MisterX
Hi Guys, I'll gladly contribute the improved stacks I've made: - Script Editor (can be spun off as a text editor too) - Control browser - Stack Browser - browse folders and files in a breeze! - Message Box (with memory and type-ahead (currently broken)) - PropertiesX (lots more properties)... -

RE: MC IDE

2003-08-25 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello, Hiding/deactivating undesirable or not needed elements could unclutter the display. However, the large memory requirements will likely remain and so will the background activity to name a few things that affect some of my work. Plus this will complicate the Rev IDE even further,

Re: New tool proposal for the MetaCard IDE

2003-08-25 Thread jbv
Alejandro Tejada a écrit: Hi developers, Can I propose a Bezier Drawing tool for the MC ide? I could prepare something for the middle of the next week. It will include a tool to modify polygon graphics using bezier curves. Who could help me to review and enhance the code? I can

Revolution 2.1 Released

2003-08-25 Thread Heather Williams
Dear Listees, We are delighted to announce that Revolution 2.1 is now shipping. Revolution 2.1 includes dozens of new features and improvements: * Improved conformity with the Mac OS X interface style guidelines * All editions include support for MySQL, PostgreSQL, ODBC and Valentina * Improved

Reminder: SoCal Mini-RevDevCon Tuesday night

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Just a reminder that the next Southern California RevDevCon will be on Tuesday, August 26, at 7pm here at the Fourth World Embassy in downtown Los Angeles. These RevDevCons are small informal gatherings of Revolution and MetaCard developers in which we talk code, solve problems, and enjoy the