Re: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
Many years ago we had opted to not use the Yahoo discussion list, and use the existing MC list hosted at runrev instead because it had more members. I'm post my reply here for that reason, and going forward if we keep using only one list for the discussion we can maximize recipients without the replicated messages. METACARD IDE POLL --- Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment) === 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development, and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE? Mine is an odd case, since shortly after having the same project burnout Klaus had with the MC IDE I began expanding my devolution toolkit into a full-fledged IDE. It's been a bit of a hodge-podge over the years, with various iterations named m2 (2nd-gen MC) and the latest is nC (which can mean NeXT Card, or NadaCard, or Not Completed, depending on one's mood g). The NeXT reference will become clear when you see it - more on that later. Standalone building is possible in nC, but not especially usable yet. Graphic Effects are supported, along with Gradients, behaviors, etc., and these are all done in a modular way that will allow them to work in MC as well, so we have lots of options for expansion going forward. 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why? I use LC only for testing bugs, to pin down differences between engine and IDE issues. Before I updated my standalone builder to use LiveCode-compliant properties I used to use LC for building standalones for the few clients who require it, but these days with the new SB I can build anywhere and LC can find what it needs to build there too. Deployment == I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work with the latest engines. With that in mind: 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone builder)? 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer it, then why do you prefer it? 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin? Zero. There's nothing it provides my my clients that we can't do with less effort and greater flexibility using a standalone and downloaded stacks, or writing custom UIs in browser-native JS. I'll go out on a limb to predict RevWeb gets EOL'd within 24 months. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. ;) It's a huge time sink with little practical benefit that can't be provided by other means better (see what RB's been doing with web deployment, what ToolBook did 15 years ago). 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device? Currently only one project, but I expect that number to grow this year now that RunRev is making such good progress on Android. END POLL --- Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ ambassa...@fourthworld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Quick Poll
On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:53 AM, mc_...@yahoogroups.com wrote: METACARD IDE POLL --- Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment) === 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development, and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE? 99% MC. 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why? I use LC for dictionary and standalone building. Deployment == I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work with the latest engines. With that in mind: 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone builder)? Not using MC for standalone building. For testing I'm using stack runner actually. When it comes to commercial distribution I build standalone's in LC 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer it, then why do you prefer it? I build standalones in LC because that's the only option but generally I'm fine with LC standalone builder. I think that just duplicating LC standalone builder functionality in MC will be waste of time. If MC standalone builder will have some better or unique features, that's another matter but at the moment I can't think about any features that LC SB lucks. 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin? I'll consider web plugin use when and if it will became more reliable. 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device? Began learning iOS 2 days ago. I have reservations about feasibility of learning android http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/23/motorola_hedging_android_bet_with_new_web_based_os.html etc Tariel ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Quick Poll
I can't get Yahoo Groups or Metacard to log me in to take the poll. All I get is a spinning beachball. All my other internet stuff is working fine :-( -- Bad Dog Books http://books.gityasome.com Critters, humor, patriots and sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Quick Poll
METACARD IDE POLL --- Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment) === 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development, and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE? 100% MC IDE 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why? Deployment == I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work with the latest engines. With that in mind: 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone builder)? I must be using an older version because my last build and all builds have been with the MC IDE. My projects do not work in the Rev IDE standalone builder so I cannot build in it, I'm using v.4.0 I believe of Rev 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer it, then why do you prefer it? 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin? None 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device? None END POLL --- Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE... -- Bad Dog Books http://books.gityasome.com Critters, humor, patriots and sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
