Re: windows version broken?

2014-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin

On 3/4/14 8:02 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:


There's still arguably a role for a lean IDE like MC as a test bed for 
discerning whether a given issue encountered in LC is in the engine or the IDE. 
  But given the many enhancements in the engine, attempting to maintain MC as a 
productive alternative delivered a lower ROI than simply moving the things we 
like about it into LC.
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Seems your opinion does not apply to my reasons :)


Apparently.  What are you looking to do with MC?

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Re: windows version broken?

2014-03-04 Thread Björnke von Gierke
> 
> There's still arguably a role for a lean IDE like MC as a test bed for 
> discerning whether a given issue encountered in LC is in the engine or the 
> IDE.   But given the many enhancements in the engine, attempting to maintain 
> MC as a productive alternative delivered a lower ROI than simply moving the 
> things we like about it into LC.
> --
> Richard Gaskin

Seems your opinion does not apply to my reasons :)

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Re: windows version broken?

2014-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin

On 3/3/14 5:40 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:


I'l try to poke around a bit, I hoped someone already knew this problem :-/


Less likely these days. With the rapid rate of change in the LC engine 
and the improved stability of the LC IDE in recent years, most of us 
have migrated our effort from attempting to maintain a relevant 
alternative IDE to simply porting any unique tools for compatibility 
with the LC IDE.


There's still arguably a role for a lean IDE like MC as a test bed for 
discerning whether a given issue encountered in LC is in the engine or 
the IDE.   But given the many enhancements in the engine, attempting to 
maintain MC as a productive alternative delivered a lower ROI than 
simply moving the things we like about it into LC.


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Re: windows version broken?

2014-03-03 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Thanks Ken & Hugh

Maybe this is a problem with the community version somehow? I shall try the 
commercial version and see if things work better there. Other then that, I 
guess there's no way for me to fix it, unless i can rename the home stack and 
open that in the LC IDE. Maybe I can also disable the gui stuff by going to 
lockMessages very early..

I'l try to poke around a bit, I hoped someone already knew this problem :-/


On 01.03.2014, at 13:05, FlexibleLearning.com  
wrote:

> Most peculiar, BvG. All working fine for me on Win7: v4.52, v5.02, v5.5,
> v6.1 and v6.5 all using MC IDE 4.1
> 
> Maybe a re-install is needed?
> 
> Hugh Senior
> FLCo

On 04.03.2014, at 02:18, Ken Ray  wrote:

> 
> On Feb 28, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Björnke von Gierke  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Yesterday I tried to use MC on windows, and it would throw a ton of errors 
>> on any user action like opening the message box, changing the tool, etc. In 
>> addition it was impossible to look at any scripts, because it wouldn't 
>> actually show the relevant scripts in the script editor window. I also saw 
>> two stacks open in the "window" menu, that i hadn't ever seen on mac os x, 
>> but was unable to even look at them (stsScriptingTools and 
>> stsST_IntelliScript). 
> 
> Bjornke,
> 
> Those two stacks are ones in my development environment… I'm assuming that 
> you're getting some error early on in MC's loading process before it gets a 
> chance to reset the window menu and initialize MC properly.
> 
> 
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> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: windows version broken?

2014-03-03 Thread Ken Ray

On Feb 28, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Björnke von Gierke  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Yesterday I tried to use MC on windows, and it would throw a ton of errors on 
> any user action like opening the message box, changing the tool, etc. In 
> addition it was impossible to look at any scripts, because it wouldn't 
> actually show the relevant scripts in the script editor window. I also saw 
> two stacks open in the "window" menu, that i hadn't ever seen on mac os x, 
> but was unable to even look at them (stsScriptingTools and 
> stsST_IntelliScript). 

Bjornke,

Those two stacks are ones in my development environment… I'm assuming that 
you're getting some error early on in MC's loading process before it gets a 
chance to reset the window menu and initialize MC properly.


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RE: windows version broken?

2014-03-01 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Most peculiar, BvG. All working fine for me on Win7: v4.52, v5.02, v5.5,
v6.1 and v6.5 all using MC IDE 4.1

Maybe a re-install is needed?

Hugh Senior
FLCo


> -Original Message-
> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:03 +0100
> From: Bj?rnke von Gierke 
> Hi
> 
> Yesterday I tried to use MC on windows, and it would throw a ton of errors
> on any user action like opening the message box, changing the tool, etc.
In
> addition it was impossible to look at any scripts, because it wouldn't
actually
> show the relevant scripts in the script editor window. I also saw two
stacks
> open in the "window" menu, that i hadn't ever seen on mac os x, but was
> unable to even look at them (stsScriptingTools and stsST_IntelliScript).
> 
> Most perplexing to me is that MC does have exactly zero of those problems
> on mac os x.
> 
> I asked Jacque and she said it might be the script editor itself who's
throwing
> fits. Does anyone know what could be the cause of symptoms like that,
> and/or maybe someone already solved the problem?
> 
> Thanks for your Time
> Bj?rnke



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