[meteorite-list] Forwarded: Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Matson
Hi Count, Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch: 1. Military says they didn't launch anything 2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor) 3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters 4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Bob, You make a pretty convincing argument. After pondering your seven points I decided I had better lay off the wine before making any more assertions on List. I am not so sure now what this thing was. As they say in Alabama...Hit shor don't look like no aeroplane. Guido

[meteorite-list] OT: candidate for SoCal contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Matson
Just to try to close the book on this, here's my candidate for the source of the November 8th contrail: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX Boeing 757-200 from Honolulu to Phoenix flew right over Catalina Island at 37,000 feet at the time in question.

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Meteorites USA
Plot thickens...? The flight path of the US Airways flight which left Hawaii, and landed in Phoenix does in fact cross Catalina island. Due west of Catalina is San Nicolas Island. ...in 2004 and 2010, U.S. military research rockets were launched from San Nicolas Island. The launchpad was

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread GeoZay
None of these look like any missile launch I've ever seen here in California. These are all no doubt aircraft contrails. All the missile contrails I've seen around here take up most of the northwestern sky and have very pronounced zig zags of all colors. GeoZay Compare the four images

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I think why so many people have a hard time accepting the contrail explanation, is because the government has proven itself so adept at lying to it's own citizens, that people now expect to be lied to about everything of consequence. Even if it was a missile launch, the government would lie about

[meteorite-list] November Issue of Meteorite-Times now up

2010-11-10 Thread Paul Harris
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: candidate for SoCal contrail

2010-11-10 Thread John.L.Cabassi
ROCKET LAUNCH: Last night, sky watchers in southern California and Nevada witnessed a bright light cutting across the evening sky. It was a Delta II rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base carrying Italy's COSMO SkyMed-4 satellite to Earth orbit. The SkyMed-4 is equipped with a radar that can

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats

2010-11-10 Thread MEM
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Chris Spratt
Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats

2010-11-10 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
Elton: That's too funny!! The Pied Piper with a herd of meteorats! - Phil Whitmer Actually it is an excellent idea. There is a Belgian Scientist in Africa that has raised a variety of larger, affectionate, friendly rats that are trained for finding land mines

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Mike Hankey
Why is everyone beating around the bush here!? Isn't it obvious? We all know this was the Pleiadians and Lizard People who are going to explode America while Obama is in Asia http://wonkette.com/429668/pleiadians-lizard-people-going-to-explode-america-while-obama-is-in-asia On Tue, Nov 9, 2010

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Ted Bunch
Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread mafer
Naw, Meg W. On 6:19:35 pm 11/10/10 Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net wrote: Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC

[meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?

2010-11-10 Thread Count Deiro
Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with

Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?

2010-11-10 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List, If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any radar signatures

Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?

2010-11-10 Thread mafer
even old missiles like the Nike left the launch rail at multi-mach speeds...the chances of an ATC seeing it long enough to think it might be a problem are slim since it would have been at a close to vertical climb. The military would have been instructed to just ignore or watch it, depending on

Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?

2010-11-10 Thread Meteorites USA
BBC says Pentagon says Aircraft not Missile: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11731014 Fox News Blog says that DoD says aircraft... http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/10/dod-case-closed-plane-caused-contrail/?test=latestnews ...With all the information that we have

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Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

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Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Bowling
And in some of the footage I saw, it looked like flame was coming out at the source.  So while it looks like a contrail, that seems like an odd feature for one.  But maybe it's just an optical illusion because of the way it all lines up.  It could be that some fish are interested in exploring

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread George Blahun
After reserving judgement I find myself in the probably aircraft camp. What I find somewhat unsettling is after a couple days of wondering, the FAA, the military and the government aren't able to say with certainty what it was. This isn't an illegal alien slipping across the border, it's a

[meteorite-list] Which class matches a chondrite ,,,

2010-11-10 Thread m42protosun
Hi met friends, Which class of petrography matches a chondrite, which was molten nearly 99,99% and now has no chondrules but only a few remnants, which could be parts of them? Is this an achondrite, because total melting means morphodifferentiation? Look at

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - November 10, 2010

2010-11-10 Thread Ron Baalke
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Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

2010-11-10 Thread cdtucson
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Greg Hupe
Naw, Meg W. Meg(a) W(histle)... made a lot of noise, peetered out and then fell in the ocean, pretty sure the missile didn't cost 140,000,000.00 bucks like, The CamPain!! - Original Message - From: ma...@imagineopals.com To: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net Cc: cspr...@islandnet.com;

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats

2010-11-10 Thread Greg Hupe
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Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?

2010-11-10 Thread Greg Hupe
If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around?... ...Unless of course the guv-ment 'urged' the radar folks to ignore some radar data. Maybe it was an accidental launch that would

Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?

2010-11-10 Thread Ken Newton
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger-solved-california-missile-mystery/?test=faces On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for

[meteorite-list] Rodrigo Martinez Contact

2010-11-10 Thread Felipe Guajardo
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[meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
The flight path of a 757 was posted over the Catalina Island area at the time of the contrails by Rob: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX I find that to be very solid evidence for the contrail theory. Apparently

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart McDaniel
We could not be that lucky! -Original Message- From: Ted Bunch Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:19 PM To: cspr...@islandnet.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10

Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

2010-11-10 Thread Paul Harris
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Richard Montgomery
Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net To: cspr...@islandnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi.

Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart McDaniel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Impactika
You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Dennis Miller
I don't really know, but I'm sure, that right along with the B-2, A-12, F-117A, and the YF-22 aircrafts, that the Navy has sub launched stealth missile Dennis Miller From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:03:13 -0500

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread drtanuki
Yeah, Too much hot air and a serious gas leak to close to a fire source. --- On Thu, 11/11/10, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail To: rickm...@earthlink.net, tbe...@cableone.net,

[meteorite-list] meteor meteorite chat open now

2010-11-10 Thread drtanuki
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Meteorites USA
Nancy and Rush got married and that was their spaceship to the Moon... ;) On 11/10/2010 5:41 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
I had hoped that nobody would bring the Pleidians and the Lizard People into this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5Bf6TtW8wfeature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx4MeBybkcfeature=player_embedded To Serve Man is a cookbook... Sterling K. Webb

Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Holcomb
I thought it was Sarah Palin's ego taking a spaceship to the moon. :-) There are rather common sightings here, the actual missile contrail is usually very fast. I remember the ABM tests over the Pacific and it was pretty cool to watch. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation

Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Holcomb
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Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

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[meteorite-list] Missile deja vu

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Matson
Hi All, For the few remaining people that have lingering doubts about the cause of the November 8th southern California mystery contrail, I invite you to watch this YouTube video of a remarkably similar event seen from Key West, Florida, on New Years Eve 2008:

Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN

2010-11-10 Thread Shawn Alan
Eric, Great I can watch meteorite men finally thank you. Shawn Alan     [meteorite-list] METEORITE MENMeteorites USA eric at meteoritesusa.com Wed Nov 10 21:49:33 EST 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Next message: [meteorite-list] Which class matches a chondrite ,,,