Hi Count,
Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch:
1. Military says they didn't launch anything
2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor)
3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters
4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume
Hi Bob,
You make a pretty convincing argument. After pondering your seven points I
decided I had better lay off the wine before making any more assertions on
List. I am not so sure now what this thing was. As they say in Alabama...Hit
shor don't look like no aeroplane.
Guido
Just to try to close the book on this, here's my candidate for the
source of the November 8th contrail:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX
Boeing 757-200 from Honolulu to Phoenix flew right over Catalina
Island at 37,000 feet at the time in question.
Plot thickens...?
The flight path of the US Airways flight which left Hawaii, and landed
in Phoenix does in fact cross Catalina island.
Due west of Catalina is San Nicolas Island.
...in 2004 and 2010, U.S. military research rockets were launched from
San Nicolas Island. The launchpad was
None of these look like any missile launch I've ever seen here in
California. These are all no doubt aircraft contrails. All the missile
contrails
I've seen around here take up most of the northwestern sky and have very
pronounced zig zags of all colors.
GeoZay
Compare the four images
I think why so many people have a hard time accepting the contrail
explanation, is because the government has proven itself so adept at
lying to it's own citizens, that people now expect to be lied to about
everything of consequence.
Even if it was a missile launch, the government would lie about
Dear List,
The November issue of Meteorite-Times is now up.
http://www.meteorite-times.com/2010/11/
Enjoy!
Paul and Jim
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ROCKET LAUNCH: Last night, sky watchers in southern California and
Nevada witnessed a bright light cutting across the evening sky. It was a
Delta II rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base carrying Italy's
COSMO SkyMed-4 satellite to Earth orbit. The SkyMed-4 is equipped with a
radar that can
Actually it is an excellent idea. There is a Belgian Scientist in Africa that
has raised a variety of larger, affectionate, friendly rats that are trained
for
finding land mines below the surface or the soil. It is a very large rat
species trained to lead on a leash. The rats lighter weight
Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars.
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
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Elton:
That's too funny!! The Pied Piper with a herd of meteorats!
-
Phil Whitmer
Actually it is an excellent idea. There is a Belgian Scientist in Africa
that
has raised a variety of larger, affectionate, friendly rats that are trained
for
finding land mines
Why is everyone beating around the bush here!? Isn't it obvious?
We all know this was the Pleiadians and Lizard People who are going to
explode America while Obama is in Asia
http://wonkette.com/429668/pleiadians-lizard-people-going-to-explode-america-while-obama-is-in-asia
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010
Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi.
Ted
On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:
Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars.
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
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Naw, Meg W.
On 6:19:35 pm 11/10/10 Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net wrote:
Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi.
Ted
On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:
Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars.
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
Dear List,
Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have
some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally.
But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined
the video for the Times of London and said he was left with
Hi List,
If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the
radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for
hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation
to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any
radar signatures
even old missiles like the Nike left the launch rail at multi-mach
speeds...the chances of an ATC seeing it long enough to think it might be a
problem are slim since it would have been at a close to vertical climb. The
military would have been instructed to just ignore or watch it, depending
on
BBC says Pentagon says Aircraft not Missile:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11731014
Fox News Blog says that DoD says aircraft...
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/10/dod-case-closed-plane-caused-contrail/?test=latestnews
...With all the information that we have
Dear Friends of truly unusual meteorites,
in a Quick-Special, we want to present to you a very uncommon and weird new
eucrite.
Just take a look and you'll agree, that we have here a HED of quite unique
appearance:
http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa5473.html
It is a polymict eucrite,
Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN?
Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the
Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen.
Michael
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And in some of the footage I saw, it looked like flame was coming out at the
source. So while it looks like a contrail, that seems like an odd feature for
one. But maybe it's just an optical illusion because of the way it all lines
up. It could be that some fish are interested in exploring
After reserving judgement I find myself in the probably aircraft camp. What
I find somewhat unsettling is after a couple days of wondering, the FAA, the
military and the government aren't able to say with certainty what it was.
This isn't an illegal alien slipping across the border, it's a
Hi met friends,
Which class of petrography matches a chondrite, which was molten nearly 99,99%
and now has no chondrules but only a few remnants, which could be parts of them?
Is this an achondrite, because total melting means morphodifferentiation?
Look at
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
November 10, 2010
o Sinuous Ridges
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_019677_1585
o Southern Hemisphere Crater with Gullies
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003162_1445
o Cerberus Fossae Fracture
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004006_1900
o
Michael,
Very nice find and Very glad the show is back on myself.
Carl
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Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN?
Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the
Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have
Naw, Meg W.
Meg(a) W(histle)... made a lot of noise, peetered out and then fell in the
ocean, pretty sure the missile didn't cost 140,000,000.00 bucks like, The
CamPain!!
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To: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net
Cc: cspr...@islandnet.com;
It is a very large rat species trained to lead on a leash
Sounds like fishing with live bait, works very well to catch the BIG ones!!
Best regards,
Greg
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If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the
radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for
hundreds of miles around?...
...Unless of course the guv-ment 'urged' the radar folks to ignore some
radar data. Maybe it was an accidental launch that would
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger-solved-california-missile-mystery/?test=faces
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:
If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the
radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for
Happy Wednesday,
Has anyone been in contact with Rodrigo Martinez? I have not been able
to get in touch with him. If anybody has his e-mail please let me
know. Thanks!
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The flight path of a 757 was posted over the Catalina Island area at the
time of the contrails by Rob:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX
I find that to be very solid evidence for the contrail theory.
Apparently
We could not be that lucky!
-Original Message-
From: Ted Bunch
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:19 PM
To: cspr...@islandnet.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi.
Ted
On 11/10/10
Great show last night! Here are more show times.
http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=48.16200.126184.36729.2
Geoff did a great interview here.
http://www.tucsonmorningblend.com/videos/106451583.html
Paul
Michael Bloodmlbl...@cox.net wrote:
Did y'all see
Dr. Ted, best one yet.
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From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net
To: cspr...@islandnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi.
Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been
great!!
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN?
Killer Vaca
You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine.
It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up!
Good riddance.
Anne M. Black
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President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
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In a
I don't really know, but I'm sure, that right along with the B-2, A-12, F-117A,
and the YF-22
aircrafts, that the Navy has sub launched stealth missile
Dennis Miller
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:03:13 -0500
Yeah, Too much hot air and a serious gas leak to close to a fire source.
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
To: rickm...@earthlink.net, tbe...@cableone.net,
Dear List, Meteor/Meteorite chat room is open
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Nancy and Rush got married and that was their spaceship to the Moon... ;)
On 11/10/2010 5:41 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote:
You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine.
It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up!
Good riddance.
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
I had hoped that nobody would bring the
Pleidians and the Lizard People into this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5Bf6TtW8wfeature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx4MeBybkcfeature=player_embedded
To Serve Man is a cookbook...
Sterling K. Webb
I thought it was Sarah Palin's ego taking a spaceship to the moon. :-)
There are rather common sightings here, the actual missile contrail is
usually very fast. I remember the ABM tests over the Pacific and it was
pretty cool to watch.
Rob Holcomb
Meteorite storage and preservation
Are these shows available on the Internet? I don't get any premium channels
and would like to see what all the excitement is about.
Rob Holcomb
Meteorite storage and preservation
http://www.rholcomb.com
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You can watch Season 2 Episode 1 2 on Amazon.com.
http://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Site-Kansas/dp/B004AUELE2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1289443607sr=8-13
Season 1:
http://www.amazon.com/Odessa-Iron-Meteorite-Crater-Texas/dp/B004AKCMN4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8qid=1289443607sr=8-8
Enjoy...
Eric
On
Hi All,
For the few remaining people that have lingering doubts about
the cause of the November 8th southern California mystery contrail,
I invite you to watch this YouTube video of a remarkably similar
event seen from Key West, Florida, on New Years Eve 2008:
Eric,
Great I can watch meteorite men finally thank you.
Shawn Alan
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