interestingto have some to study.
Francis Graham
On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 01:05:45 AM PDT, Albert Jambon via
Meteorite-list wrote:
There was a presentation at the Goldschmidt Conference in Lyon this week. Here
is a link
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2381928-meteorite-left-earth
The Indiana fireball with its associated sonic booms was assumed to be a Lyrid,
mostly ice, and unlikely to produce a meteorite.
But could it also be the case that the Indianameteor had nothing to do with
the Lyrids or Comet Thatcher at all, but was anasteroidal belt meteor , that
can't say the rocks
must be from some place other than Earth.
Not that I personally would try to sell space-boosted gravel as
meteorites. But where there is money in it, someone will, if it's
legal.
Francis Graham
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com
Lunar Rover?
Francis Graham
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:
Hello Everyone!
Chinese Moon Landing = Lunar Meteorite Sales!!
Looks like the successful moon landing by the Chinese a couple days ago is
good for sales of lunar meteorites… we’ve sold several
independent find.
My question, has this ever happened in real life?
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I am not familiar with the imaging devices on Chang e 2 as it heads
for Toutatis. But the Geminids are here, and flashes of meteor
impacts from showers have been recorded as they happen on the Moon
encounter--not too likely, but not so improbable as to
be discounted. Pushbroom imaging systems would probably miss it
though...well, maybe. Something I suppose to look for, but not hope
for.
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that big meteor impacts alter ecosystems, but every altered
ecosystem doth not have a crater associated with it.
Other stuff can happen, of course, and the list is long.
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samples around the crater ejecta and then, if the situation remains
pleasant, seek out better samples elsewhere. Seems like a smart idea.
There is a host of practical problems to which this idea can be applied,
where time=increased chance of difficulties.
Francis Graham
, and many--perhaps thousands-- meteorites are
just sitting on places there waiting for your perusal, study, and admiration.
Perhaps Antarctic Park can be left alone.
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without any thought or analysis whatsoever. I'll bet
people at the Pentagon are even surprised. Journalism
has been going deeper into the abyss as the years go
by, it seems. Sigh.
Francis Graham
I'm a bit controversial on this. So if any
of you folks want to point out why I could be wrong,
please do. But I think that hydrazine simply would not
survive re-entry.
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meteorite fall?
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they had finds, they
recognized the rocks as the same types as they or
stories handed to them described as falls.
Thus they learned, just as we 21st century people
do, to recognize meteorites.
Francis Graham
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From
-estimated that?
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Even in the case of Peekskill, many of the videos
show the light on the ground, but not the actual
meteor cum meteorite, if I recall correctly. I do not
know if such surveillance videos should count,
although they sure fix the time pretty well.
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--if there indeed is an impact.
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with no interest in micrometeorites. The
reason I went on list is to invite anyone to comment,
especially, spot flaws, before such a study is
commenced.
Jerry, you shown yet another way to enjoy the rain
again.
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--- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There you go Francis, worth
--it will vaporize. But at least then
you could be fairly sure what the next micrometeorite
candidates you collect are.
So now that I have done my thinking on line, it must
be actually attempted!
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be done, a lot more information on Mars and the
Moon could be obtained, simply because there are so
many micrometeorites. This would include collection in
the stratosphere as Brownlee did, maybe piggybacked on
surveillance aircraft.
But one question at a time.
Francis Graham
says (and I agree)
they are likely to be rare.
H. I like your suggestion that this would be an
interesting project to critically examine, in
conjunction with an educational project.
Francis Graham
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Dear Francis,
I was thinking exactly the same
of secrecy are up, and
the phone lines are therefore down. It used to be
there was a lot of scientists doing a lot of secret
work who were also active publishing academic work.
They would instantly know. But this is increasingly
not the case.
Francis Graham
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and that they can offer
no help or support. I am appealing to the
international
members of this list for any help they might be able
to offer.
I do not use a Lomo however I would be delighted to
try to answer any general questions about using a
petrographic microscope.
Francis Graham [EMAIL
the sporadic background.
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. But no amount
of talent will make one a virtuoso on a machine that
does not work at all.
There's a few random ideas here. I'll end my comment
on this thread.
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it come from?
There is an old saying which may relate profoundly to
the sneaky little devil: A stone thrown is the
devil's.
I'm glad this object is off topic now.
Francis Graham
You
snooze, you lose. Get
date from the precambrian. The
lunar variation does not have the same cause, I am
sure. But what are some of the ideas that account for
the lunar variation?
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The composition of the atmosphere is critical to
knowing the temperature
of the planet - think Venus vs. Mars. If they didn't
directly see the
planet there is no way they can know anything about
its atmosphere.
Paul Swartz
Venus became hot by loss of
the retinue.
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Yes, a planetary mnemonic could be devised that
includes Pluto, Quaoar, Sedna, Charon and Xena:
My Very Eerie Mom Cries Just Since Uncle Ned
Perished Chaoticly to Quite Sedate X-Rays.
The symbol for Ceres is established; Quaoar and
Sedna's symbols I cannot imagine, , but for Xena a
enveloped by
rock vapor was very sobering...
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In any case... she should be fired, fined and forced
to pay restitution.
I agree. The only out is if she reported the safe
unreliable, and was told to visit her educational
clients anyway, or if it was implied that she would
lose her job if she didn't.
Managers like to cover their
/her crime.
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Dear List,
At 8:40 PM Nov. 1 a Kent State student and myself
noticed a bright bolide directly to the south, from
Kent OH.
The sky was not very clear; horse-tail clouds were
still there at sunset, peppered with fog near the
ground at the time of viewing. So we thought the
bolide would have
concerning
the origin of spikes on stars. But: is it really the
actual historical answer? I dunno.
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in the spirit of science or
scientific. But: state-mandated.
So Dave, I know where you heart is.
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planets.
One minor quibble. The Earth was large enough to
evolve human beings (I don't think we'd see humans
evolve on Ceres!) , who set off underground hydrogen
bomb tests. Therefore, the Earth is not a planet
strictly by this definition.
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improbable. But it would seem, not impossible.
What would such a meteorite look like?
Anyone care to wonder out e-loud with me on this?
Speculating,
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there are some things
that look like a duck and really aren't, and that all
science is tentative, the evidence of more Mars
biomarkers must be taken for what they seem to be.
Francis Graham
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Sterling W. wrote:
The key has to be that the creation of life
the early 1960s.
It's certainly an area where there is still
substantial mystery. Celestial mechanical disasters
are much more predictable. If Apophis passes through
the keyhole we are screwed.
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be for features on Tempel 1.
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Streling K. Webb wrote:
During the 29 June 1878 solar eclipse, two
experienced astronomers, Professor James
Craig Watson, director of the Ann Arbor
Observatory in Michigan, and Lewis Swift, an
amateur from Rochester, New York, both claimed
independently to have seen a planetary
object close to
NO hope of seeing the Kordylewski
clouds.
Francis Graham
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Hola Rob,
Wouldn't that be = 2/3's (gibbous) phase = about
66% illumination, and a
maximum average sky angle of a comfortable,high 60
degrees max observed angle
(+/- the oscillation) ... checking
Dear Ron:
Interesting news! Thanks, Ron!
What is the subperigee point (long, lat) for 2004MN4
and at what exact time?
Are there graphical simulations?
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There is a minor correction to this text.
The largest man-made nuclear explosion ...50
megatons.
Not true. In 1962 the old Soviet Union did a 100
megatonner in Nova Zemlya, I recall from my duck and
cover days.
Francis
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not be forthcoming ever at all, and the indirect
evidence may be it.
I can hardly wait to see the next Division of
Planetary Science meeting papers.
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...and the no-lifers will seem
increasingly intractably dogmatic.
I see their point of view. Like Lowell's canals, we
have been fooled before. But this time, I think it's
real. Seems so.
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be performed SUBORBITALLY
by high altitude rockoons, if all the timing is right.
In fact, the timing of it would be very tricky.
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Red Kryptonite?
A rare type, comic book fans recall, that made even
Superman crazy.
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of
small ones. I made a little calculation then based on
proportionality, even.
I knew it!
I don't have good hunches often, so I hope you
remember mine back then.
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What a coup if this find by Opportunity turns out to
be a meteorite
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The satellite landed in our home. Maybe this means
we'll have good luck this year. the tenant of the
apartment, Huo Jiyu, said.
All of the learned professors of logic in all of the
time since Aristotle, could not have come up with a
better example of a non sequitur.
Francis Graham
Dear List:
The Metropolitan did a story about the Denver
Meteorite Show.
http://www.mscd.edu/~themet/TheMetropolitan/04_05/Vol27_issue07/12.html
OK, the writer is my daughter. And it includes a
mini-interview with Anne Black.
I'll forward her feedback if any.
Francis Graham
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They evidently shifted it away from the top feature.
Thanks again for the correction. Yes, the top
feature was on Vampires and the editor did it. The
Metropolitan is a college paper.
Both are very good features, though.
Francis Graham
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Alien microbes could survive crash-landing
Philip Ball
Nature
September 2, 2004
Tough bugs make interplanetary wanderings more
plausible.
Bacteria could survive crash
, and many other sciences.
I will probably vote for Kerry.
Just my two cents. And it's topic-relevant, so no
apologizies for this single, humble American citizen's
opinion. I know other planetary scientists have
differing opinions, and that's OK.
Francis Graham
which ends this missive: Sometimes
strange events permit themselves the luxury of having
occured.
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fission products in the core of
the Earth. If hot spot volcanoes, such as Mauna Loa,
really come from deep within the mantle near the
core-mantle boundary there ought to be some trace of
fission in the Earth's core if it is really happening.
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hitting Mars from the Sudbury and Hudson
Bay impacts alone at the time, give or take a thousand
years.
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Be nice to live long enough to see if he was right
on that, too.
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subclass like the dinosauria, to even
have a major impact of any sort (no pun intended).
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I am really asking for it, but here goes:
PLUTO TO EARTH
Have you heard the news from Earth?
Asked the Plutonians (For all it's worth
Although they were used to the cryogenic
A little heat was loved; and made them phrenetic
Increasing their thoughts; yea, near perihelion
Their best of sages
the internet rumor.
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envelope to write on the back of. Am I in the ball
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-specific. Unless there are cows in space. Now
that would make interesting meteorites. :)
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mirrors and a nice big
field on a dark moonless night, and careful alignment
to insure perpendicularity (the curvature of the Earth
would have to be accounted for).
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cover up that accidentally
came along.
I saw drawings of the Keckburg object by firemen
who saw it. It looks just like a soviet re-entry
vehicle. The alien writing reported was probably
Russian.
I hope the UFO buffs do get their information. It
may help solve a space mystery.
Francis
.
That is not an unrealistic expectation, and
complicates the political value of meeting the Chinese
space initiative with a US space initiative--one
perhaps designed and made in China.
I'll leave you guys to sort out the meaning of this.
I can't.
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celestial. Yet the USA makes no
effort to deny my students' ownership.
If NASA is successful at getting its parking ticket
on Eros thrown out, if I park illegally and find
meteoritic material under my car, can I fight the
ticket in municipal court?
Francis Graham
the time, you
recall, that McD's changed their cup design to a less
rigid cup, that flexes when you grab it.
The comment is correct; the ownership fo asteroid
case is probably not as good as the McDonald's coffee
case.
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is an investment consultant, but keeps up on meteor
impact literature.
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autobot) response. I just would like to pick of the
phone and discuss my very real security problem.
It's in their best interest, too. I could also write a
postal letter, if I knew their address, since
certified mail usually gets a read.
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I am uncertain about what this specifically refers
to, otherwise
I would look it up on the Astronomical Data Service
to recreate Ezekiel's unique vision in a
test tube.
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I thought some might like this. Others, delete.
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PLUTO TO EARTH
Have you heard the news from Earth?
Asked the Plutonians gathered by the Hearth
(For although they were used to the cryogenic
A little heat was loved; and made them phrenetic
Increasing their thoughts; yes, near
of meaningful scientific count was possible
due to the variable sky conditions. But we all had
lots of fun.
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ultimately assist in its ejection next year,
nonetheless it does offer an inspiration for a new
look at the capture theory of the origin of the Moon,
does it not?
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to be falsified.
Does anybody have parts of spacecraft, except Skylab,
that crashed between 1963 and 1988 and were recovered
by civilians? How do spacecraft parts recovered by
civilians in those years, if any, compare with the
prevalence of spacecraft debris sold on e-bay etc
today?
Francis Graham
fibers needed, because Pluto and Charon are so small.
Of course, the question at the meeting was Why
would anyone build such a thing between Pluto and
Charon? Tsk tsk. Such questions are so 20th
century.
Francis Graham
PS Similarly, cables could be strung between double
asteroids. Besides
to Australia for other reasons.
Even if the story is a hoax, the full account of who,
why and how the hoax was perpetrated adds to the
knowledge base of theories about why people do things
like Piltdown, etc.
The mystery of the Meisenthaler Meteorite awaits!
Francis Graham
The largest nuclear explosion was not 60 MT, but 100
MT off Nova Zemyla, in the early 1960's. There have
been no nuclear explosions of that magnitude since.
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there should be some under similar conditions to
Antarctica but in miniature.
But the meteorites would not be so miniature.
Just a gut hunch.
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for Lowell. When he first put forth his
ideas, the man simply had no way of knowing he was
being fooled.
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