And as for Marvin being in charge of an institution that would grind up
perfectly oriented Murchisons, you are completely mistaken. He would not
allow such things to happen, and if you knew him, you'd know that. Don't
bring other institutions into this, because this is something new. It's
Well said David ;-)
Also in my cellar are waiting some boxes with stones to be saved for
science...
No seriously, I have difficulties to understand the hens' huddle like
kerfuffle in that discussion, nor the substance of it seems to be smth else
than a little Killgore-bashing.
He wanted to
Hello David, All,
Well done.
Thank you. I hope you got a smile out of it, but I'm sure not as funny
as Martin Altmann.
You've missed my point entirely.
No I believe I understand your point perfectly well, and I agree with
your feelings that material must be saved for science rather than
Hello Jason,
Thanks for your thoughtful replies. I don't have nearly the worries that
some may have over this new planned U of A repository, but I am
concerned about the temptation by owners of rare meteorites to sell to a
highly motivated and well-financed entity at prices that they couldn't
What Marvin almost always does is sell half of a specimen and keep the rest
intact. In this fashion, he hasn't entirely kept meteorites from being
cut,
but he sure keeps a hell of a lot of them more intact than they would
otherwise be, and for that I applaud him.
So in other words he does
I know the intentions of the directors, and personally, I can guarantee you
that the sort of wanton buying of everything in sight that you so fear
won't
occur. If that's not good enough for you, I see no reason to continue this
argument, because you don't believe what I'm saying in the first
Hello Stan, All,
Alright, again :)
sorry i took the quote from a source that listed that as a source
Editor's note: collectSPACE's collecting categories do not include meteorites for good reason: our focus is on space exploration history. Meteorites, on the other hand, are the natural history of
Hello David, All,
Well done. You've missed my point entirely.
And wayto be melodramatic.
I don't care whether or not people have collections.
It's my opinion that if they want one, they should be able to do whatever they want with it. But they should want to conserve such rare items and use
Hello Stan, David, All,
Well, here's a quote from that page...seems as if the writer probablywasn'tup to speed on his meteorite-related info I guess..huh.and yet their writter seemed to have a pretty good grasp on the 'sky is
falling' tone of the SWMC's press releases / interviews.
Yeah, shame
Hello Stan, All,
Just a heads up - Stan, you might want to read the last paragraph before you take the time to respond...it'd piss me off if I wrotea long replyand saw that there.
And now for the issues at hand.
And as for Marvin being in charge of an institution that would grind upperfectly
Hello David, All,
Alrighty, down to business.
Well done.Thank you. I hope you got a smile out of it, but I'm sure not as funnyas Martin Altmann.
Don't worry, I've yet to reply to his off-list reply, but I'll get to it asapwell, now there's an on-list one...which one Martin?
You've missed
Hello Again All,
Well this is getting old.
What Marvin almost always does is sell half of a specimen and keep the restintact.In this fashion, he hasn't entirely kept meteorites from beingcut,but he sure keeps a hell of a lot of them more intact than they would
otherwise be, and for that I
Allright, down to business again...a quick message before I leave.
Hello David, All,
Thanks for your thoughtful replies. I don't have nearly the worries thatsome may have over this new planned U of A repository, but I amconcerned about the temptation by owners of rare meteorites to sell to a
The samples would be available
for the future experiments that anyone might conceive - rather than sitting
lost in some dusty drawer...or in a membrane box, decaying away on
someone's
desk.
Quite the contrary to this notion I feel that private collectors CAN and DO
serve to protect the
*I see no evidence of this quote in the article that you sent a link for.
I'd like to know where you found it. Because it wasn't in that article. *
http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003097.html
sorry i took the quote from a source that listed that as a source
In any case, it's true
A very large case of wanting sumpthin-for-nuthin???
Dave F.
stan . wrote:
The samples would be available
for the future experiments that anyone might conceive - rather than
sitting
lost in some dusty drawer...or in a membrane box, decaying away on
someone's
desk.
Quite the
Hello Stan, All,
Well no one has to donate anything to get the classification service once the program is up and running...why would you assume that?
I'd suggest that if you care at all about such a small and exhaustible resource being expended without regard for future science, that it would
Hello Stan, All,
Well, lets take this apart, eh?
Save the space rocks! The meteorites are vanishing and if something isn'tdone soon, most of Earth's rare space rocks could be gone in a lifetime orso says the University of Arizona's Southwest Meteorite Center, a newly
founded organization created
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 03:45:12 -0700, you wrote:
= Anti-micro-collector? Maybe, but so am I to a degree.
Why have a tray of tiny bits when one could focus their funds and purchase a
single spectacular specimen? If something's worth doing, it should be done
well...no brainer in my opinion.
Well, here's a quote from that page...seems as if the writer probably
wasn't
up to speed on his meteorite-related info I guess..huh.
and yet their writter seemed to have a pretty good grasp on the 'sky is
falling' tone of the SWMC's press releases / interviews.
Hmmm, and how much
Hello Stan and Jason,
Jason has eloquently convinced me that my virtually complete systematic
collection, which I have put together over the past 23 years, would be
better utilized for science by my selling it to SWMC. I presume that my
collection will be better accessible to scientific as
-From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Michael Blood
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; BIG Collector: MARK BOSTICK[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dean Bessey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:47 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE
It's not meant to keep any material from collectors, and is, in fact,
aiming
to make classification a much faster process, so that instead of waiting
for
months to see the results of a find, dealers will have a turnaround
measured
in weeks, if not days.
or the dealer can just send the
Since the new millinium started everybody in the
meteorite world has had a wonderful problem: To many
meteorites. I think everybody who buys meteorites from
me wants to know how to get a meteorite classified.
Since I moved down under I have found a very
enthusiastic and helpful meteorite community
Yes, it would be interesting and quite informative to
compare prices, conditions, speed and of course
quality of different classification services available
world wide. Does any-one has this info?
Regards,
Arriere
--- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the new millinium started
Yes, it would be interesting and quite informative to
compare prices, conditions, speed and of course
quality of different classification services available
world wide. Does any-one has this info?
Regards,
Arriere
--- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the new millinium started
Yes, it would be interesting and quite informative to
compare prices, conditions, speed and of course
quality of different classification services available
world wide. Does any-one has this info?
Regards,
Arriere
--- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the new millinium started
Well, as far as quality of different services go I
dont think there is much difference. The meteoritical
society has an extremily high standard before they
will accept a classification and everybody submitting
classifications needs certain expertise and equipment.
The real problem is in speed -
: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE
Well, as far as quality of different services go I
dont think there is much difference. The meteoritical
society has an extremily high standard before they
will accept a classification and everybody submitting
classifications needs certain
Hi Dean,
Congrats on scoring a good connection down under.
While I have not kept abreast of the specific developments,
I do know that at the time of the Tucson Show Marvin Killgore
Dr. Dante Lauretta of the U. of A Southwest Meteorite Center
were intending to institute meteoritic
In Tucson Killgore noted classified opportunities during his talk. I
spoke with Killgore after the talk and was told a person would purchase a
subscription that would allow them so many a year. The price had not been
established, and if you signed the book in his room you were suppose to be
Hi Mark,
I am just wondering how you can disagree with a statement
that something MAY be available to people and the suggestion that
they check it out for themselves?
It doesn't sound like you have called Dr. Lauretta at the number
I posted.
Jeez, Mark - it seems like
Hello Michael,
I am not involved in any way with the deal Dean arranged for classifications
and I hope it is alright to disagree.
I signed a list to be notified when they got things going as I stated and
have not been notified. We have discussed Marvin's possible classification
service on
Michael,
This is a somewhat touchy subject that I'm about to bring up, so I will just
come out and say it.
Nothing against Killgore or Dr. Lauretta personally, but lets not forget
that their new meteorite center was founded because of the 'private
collecting community cutting up and
Hi All,
OK, I contacted the Southwest Meteorite Center at U of A.
Dr. Lauretta was on vacation, but I was able to get ahold of
Marvin. Marvin informed me they are far from ready to be able
to do analysis in a timely manor and, while that is a definite
future goal, until other aspects of
Hi Stan,
While I more than appreciate your concern - since I am a collector
and a dealer, of course, I would share your perspective IF that were
what the center were about. However, in protracted discussions with
Marvin and Dr. Lauretta that is certainly not the sense I get, at all.
In
Hi Michael,
Only Bill Gates could afford to buy every gram of material
on the market.
...as to think they could generate the hundreds
and hundreds of millions of dollars it would take to buy EVERYTHING
Humhem - Market-Trend-Michael, now I'm really surprised.
Do you not agree with my
on 7/12/06 1:40 PM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are thousands of other
people than Bill Gates, who could afford to clean up the market with a
fingers' click!
Buckleboo!
Martin
Hi Martin,
You are undoubtedly right - technically - but I think
it does
While I more than appreciate your concern - since I am a collector
and a dealer, of course, I would share your perspective IF that were
what the center were about. However, in protracted discussions with
Marvin and Dr. Lauretta that is certainly not the sense I get, at all.
Michael,
2006 22:46
An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite List
Betreff: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE
on 7/12/06 1:40 PM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are thousands of other
people than Bill Gates, who could afford to clean up the market with a
fingers' click
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dean Bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite
List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE
Hi All,
OK, I contacted the Southwest Meteorite Center at U of A.
Dr. Lauretta
: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE
Hi All,
OK, I contacted the Southwest Meteorite Center at U of A.
Dr. Lauretta was on vacation, but I was able to get ahold of
Marvin. Marvin informed me they are far from ready to be able
Hi All,
I spent a considerable amount of time both in Tucson with Marvin and
Dante and on the phone discussing the nature of the SWMC, all of which
I wrote about in the May 2006 issue of Meteorite Magazine.
Hopefully reading that article will make the mission of the Center
more clear to the
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