Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia
Dear Rob, One solution to have a chance to know a bit more about this meteorite could be to have its magnetic susceptibility measured. It is non destructive and can be performed on one of the small pieces that you have removed from the main mass, that you could ship to a labe able to do such an analysis, asking to get it back afterwards... Just an idea for you to get some info about your beautiful Acfer meteorite. Should you be interested, I can let you know off list where to send it in France for instance. Did you find this beauty by yourself in Acfer or did you buy it? Kind regards, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Rob Lenssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Thank you very much for your reaction Bernd. Like I wrote before, it was covered in desert varnish when I got it. The two polished planes present fractured sides, that I planed removing as less material as possible. Before planing they already showed dark lumbs. Like it fractured around them. Don't think it is planetary though, as it is magnetic and shows the typical (chondrite) dots of iron in the surface. I will try to make better pictures and will share them with you. regards, Rob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Hello Rob L. and List, Look what I found after cleaning and polishing a desert varnish covered Acfer: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Acfer500g.htm Dark clasts in lighter matrix. Also metal spots in the dark clasts. Any idea what this might be? In chondrites I typically see lighter clasts in darker matrix. What a beautiful Açfer chondrite! Is it a chondrite after all? The pictures should have a higher resolution. Are there any chondrules? Questions, questions, questions! Anyway, it does look quite fresh, so it should be something like W1 or W2 at most. It does look highly shocked ... at least S4 but more probably S5 or even S6. Well, that sounds like silicate darkening. Maybe the silicate clasts were not so very dark prior to the shock event but experienced extensive darkening (caused by melting of metal-sulfide). As for: In chondrites I typically see lighter clasts in darker matrix Here are some chondrites that have dark inclusions: NWA 0869, NWA 0978, NWA 1794, NWA 3346, OUED EL HADJAR, RICHFIELD, TANEZROUFT 061, etc., etc. Anyway, a mighty beautiful chondrite, something that, as Dean would now say you just gotta love! ... and if it is not a chondrite ??? Could this be a planetary meteorite??? Questions, questions, questions! Cheers, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference?
Hello Martin, Mark and List, I looked at Russian version of Y.I.Simashko, Cat. Meteorites, St.Pétersbourg, 1891 and he wrote that the second stone was broken by finder into parts and given to the locals. As locals said these stones cure any illnesses of people and cattle, devils are afraid of it as cross, the riches in the house arrive from them. Nothing about eating (locals just store the stones at their houses) in this book ;-) but if someone wants to try, my last available Novo-Urei will end soon: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190070940190 Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:19 AM To: 'Mark Grossman'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference? Hi Mark, I don't know the original reference fort the story, that the locals ate some stones of Novo-Urei, We have to ask, Biblio-Bernd or Seguej Vassiliev. So I will send this question to the list. ...and Novo-Urei really looks tasty! http://www.geokhi.ru/~meteorit/opis/novo-urei-e.html Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Grossman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 02:37 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 Martin, Thanks so much for the response! Do you have a reference for this? I thought I read something in Burke? Thanks! Mark - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 And Novo-Urei, a fall in 1886 in Russiam was eaten... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Horst Wagner
Hi Mr Horst Wagner Please contact me -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia
Dear Frederic, Thanks for the tip. I read about the method at http://www.caillou-noir.com/magnetic-susceptibility_SM30.htm . Glad to see there is a non destructive method to learn a bit more about a meteorite. No, I did not find this one myself. The closest I have ever been to the Sahara was Gibraltar :-) . Saw Africa across the sea, but have never been there Actually I bought this one at the 2003 Gifhorn Fair. I was told it was found by two French meteorite hunters. Might it be you who found it??? Kind regards, Rob - Original Message - From: Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Lenssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Dear Rob, One solution to have a chance to know a bit more about this meteorite could be to have its magnetic susceptibility measured. It is non destructive and can be performed on one of the small pieces that you have removed from the main mass, that you could ship to a labe able to do such an analysis, asking to get it back afterwards... Just an idea for you to get some info about your beautiful Acfer meteorite. Should you be interested, I can let you know off list where to send it in France for instance. Did you find this beauty by yourself in Acfer or did you buy it? Kind regards, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Rob Lenssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Thank you very much for your reaction Bernd. Like I wrote before, it was covered in desert varnish when I got it. The two polished planes present fractured sides, that I planed removing as less material as possible. Before planing they already showed dark lumbs. Like it fractured around them. Don't think it is planetary though, as it is magnetic and shows the typical (chondrite) dots of iron in the surface. I will try to make better pictures and will share them with you. regards, Rob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Hello Rob L. and List, Look what I found after cleaning and polishing a desert varnish covered Acfer: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Acfer500g.htm Dark clasts in lighter matrix. Also metal spots in the dark clasts. Any idea what this might be? In chondrites I typically see lighter clasts in darker matrix. What a beautiful Açfer chondrite! Is it a chondrite after all? The pictures should have a higher resolution. Are there any chondrules? Questions, questions, questions! Anyway, it does look quite fresh, so it should be something like W1 or W2 at most. It does look highly shocked ... at least S4 but more probably S5 or even S6. Well, that sounds like silicate darkening. Maybe the silicate clasts were not so very dark prior to the shock event but experienced extensive darkening (caused by melting of metal-sulfide). As for: In chondrites I typically see lighter clasts in darker matrix Here are some chondrites that have dark inclusions: NWA 0869, NWA 0978, NWA 1794, NWA 3346, OUED EL HADJAR, RICHFIELD, TANEZROUFT 061, etc., etc. Anyway, a mighty beautiful chondrite, something that, as Dean would now say you just gotta love! ... and if it is not a chondrite ??? Could this be a planetary meteorite??? Questions, questions, questions! Cheers, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference?
Hi Kevin, that's no new idea. Last year in Ensisheim Bruno Fectay had some bottles of Biere de Mars. Biere de Mars usually is a special beer, somewhat stronger than normal beer, brewed in March (--Mars) in Belgium, France and Germany. Bruno mixed some dust of Mars into ist... Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Kevin Forbes Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 07:33 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference? Hey, what about getting in touch with a small brewery and getting them to mix a bag of meteorite dust in with a batch of stout. You could label it 'Star Beer, A special dietary supplement for aliens living on Earth.' Now wouldn't that send the conspiracists into a spin. 'Contains (measured as a % of solid matter in suspension) chondrite 85%, achondrite 10%, Lunar and other 3%, Iron, Nickel and trace elements 2%.' Each bottle contains a minimum of 100 mg of extraterrestrial matter. 7 fl Oz contains 50% of the minimum weekly requirements of these elements for normal alien biological functions. Manufactured on Earth for Off World Catering Services, a division of Greater Galactic. Greater Galactic. Paris, New York, Sydney, Alpha Centauri, Bellatrix. Who here would but a bottle of Star Beer? I reckon it might be good to drink if you had the runs. Hoo roo. Kevin, VK3UKF. Hi, Here's the few websites with references to eating Novo Urei that Google could find: http://www.meteorites.tv/contents/en-us/d74.html The Labennes http://www.meteorite.fr/en/classification/PAC-group.htm Bruno and Carine http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:v1f79uyArJ0J:six.pairlist.net/pipermail /meteorite-list/2004-August/163642.html+novo+urei+eatenhl=engl=usct=clnk cd=3 Novo Urei fall sept 4, 1886 (the Ureilite class name giving meteorite ) was eaten the indigeneous after the fall. The some Dag 489 Shergottite was eaten by its finder. ( he likes to tell that story ) I ate recently some fragments of my new diogenite that dropped on my bench after trimming. Not bad ! www.caillou-noir.com/Molay.htm It is the one that tastes so good. I will recommand to former meteorite eaters to focus on achondrites, the ones where there is less Ni. Shall I propose to our local brewery ( Micro Basserie de Chamonix, Canadian owner, just a good place to drink.) to make a try with some Dio powder from a future sawing ? --- Michel Franco I find it interesting that all the references on the eating Novo Urei were written by individuals of that nation with the reputation for the greatest of gustatory sophistication: La Belle Patrie -- France! Perhaps they have recipes to share? (Michel Franco has already suggested what to drink with your meteorite.) And Kim Stanley Robinson, author of the Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), ate a piece of Zagami after he mailed the final manuscript to his publisher, while sitting on his roof, then wrote a poem about Eating Mars. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Trace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference? I remember reading the story about the meteorites being eaten for their 'magical' properties. I thought I saw it on a website. Though, I can't seem to find it now. Trace - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mark Grossman' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference? Hi Mark, I don't know the original reference fort the story, that the locals ate some stones of Novo-Urei, We have to ask, Biblio-Bernd or Seguej Vassiliev. So I will send this question to the list. ...and Novo-Urei really looks tasty! http://www.geokhi.ru/~meteorit/opis/novo-urei-e.html Martin -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Grossman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 02:37 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 Martin, Thanks so much for the response! Do you have a reference for this? I thought I read something in Burke? Thanks! Mark - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 And Novo-Urei, a fall in 1886 in Russiam was eaten... -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] greetings to the met community
Welcome Leandro, Good to see you have become IMCA member as that shows your intent to maintain authenticity and not get caught up in buying/selling meteorwrongs. You'll get a lot of great info here. Looking forward to getting to know you. Gary On 17 Jan 2007 at 2:08, leandro.saracino wrote: hello listers, pleased to add my voice to the choir... as a newcomer, I know only a handful of good met folks. well, this handful of nice and competent people directed my first steps as a buyer in a very friendly way, and made me walk all the way up to my IMCA subscription :-) my thanks to all of them and my greetings to those I still know only as names and nics, either listers or sellers. hope to know in person most of you in the future. leandro Osservatorio Astronomico Colle Leone www.oacl.net IMCA 2689 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SM30 susceptibility meter
Hello List, I'm searching for an used SM30. Does anyone on the List has one for sale ? Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD; several KILOS of achondrites, Pallasites ending on ebay tonight!
Hi everyone, I am in a cash-raising mode for the Tucson show, I have people to pay off and more meteorites to buy, so I have cleaned out the vault and pulled some special pieces that I have been holding for a long time! Tonight well over $20,000 in meteorite ALL started at one cent will end! YES, several kilos of ACHONDRITES, Pallasites, R chondrites etc! Below are direct links to the rarest pieces. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/michael_farmer_meteorites.htm Check out these spectacular offerings! First is a Sikhote-alin, one of those rare pieces that comes up once a year or so, a fantastic oriented specimen. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130066685513 I also have a perfect Gao oriented stone, a flying saucer if you will, with bubbles and lipping everywhere. The rollover flow on this piece is thicker than any I have ever had in my hands! That is why I have held this piece back for so long. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130066726803 813 gram RUMURUTTI R chondrite specimen! This alone is a near $10,000 piece. How often do you see something like this on eBay for one cent start? http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130066755995 225 gram chondrite sphere, 50mm! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130066729529 ACHONDRITE, ungrouped, MAIN MASS 870 grams on ebay for ONE CENT! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068433135 230 gram EUCRITE endcut, NWA 2650 http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068431007 426 gram MUSEUM QUALITY Pallasite slice. Not that cheap hacked-up crap, this is wire-saw cut material. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068426125 400 gram HOWARDITE individual. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068419131 Admire Pallasite specimen. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068349248 LARGE NWA 1941 L6 slice, museum quality. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068345331 611 gram Brahin complete large slice. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068352315 MARS meteorite, NWA 2975, RARE fragment of this 70 gram Martian meteorite. As you all know, this meteorite was sold intact to a private buyer, and for the last year I have held onto the last 2 grams in private hands outside the main mass, so here is a piece for the collector of Martian meteorites. Don't miss the chance to fill that slot! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170068359255 Just in these pieces alone are more than $20,000 in meteorites. This sale is to raise money for the Tucson show, so do not miss this opportunity for great meteorites at great prices! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Russia
http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/3285/ Meteorite Down On Altai Russia IC January 17, 2007 In Altaisky Krai scientists are searching for meteorite, which fell from the sky not long ago. Barnaul planetarium is receiving a great number of telephone calls from people, who have seen the fireball falling. . Natalia Pavlova, research fellow of Barnaul planetarium, said that on 10 January many people have observed a fireball falling down and making a loud noise. Scientists have data that first meteorite fall was detected in Altaisky Krai in 1840. Since then about twenty meteorites have fallen in said region. Four of celestial bodies have been detected here in 21st century. Fellows of Barnaul planetarium ask people who have seen the meteorite falling or know the place where it fell to report any possible details. Thus, scientists expect to specify the area of meteorite fall to start searching for the guest from space. Source: http://www.lenta.ru __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New micrographs of NWA 998 Nakhlite
Hi List, I can't post pic's to the list so email me if you want me to send a group of NWA 998 micrographs to you directly. It's time to return the thin sections of NWA 998 Martian and NWA 482 Lunar to Jim Strope. (He will have them with him in Tucson and they are FOR SALE so look him up). I sat down to work on posting images to my Gallery on Meteorite Times and that led to more photographing which led to higher magnification, which let to I need more light than 500W. Anyway, it's 1 degree out side so I bring the oxy/ acetylene welder in the house. My wife about killed me. I set up a lamp house to accommodate a 750W Photo Optic Halogen Oxide Bulb. I needed a heat shield on the desk to keep from burning in. I have a heat absorption filter in the train so I don't heat the slides! The light goes through MANY lenses, two prisms and one mirror before the slide. Long story? Wait until you see the pics.These are 998 in standard cross polarized light at 400X with the addition of a retardation filter. Let me know what you think. I'm going after the 482 next. Keep in mind, this isn't about classification, that's already been done. This is about art! Judge them on that criteria. Tom Phillips __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dwarf Planet 'Becoming A Comet' (2003 EL61)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6268799.stm Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet' By Paul Rincon BBC News January 17, 2007 An unusual dwarf planet discovered in the outer Solar System could be en route to becoming the brightest comet ever known. 2003 EL61 is a large, dense, rugby-ball-shaped hunk of rock with a fast rotation rate. Professor Mike Brown has calculated that the object could be due a close encounter with the planet Neptune. If so, Neptune's gravity could catapult it into the inner Solar System as a short-period comet. If you came back in two million years, EL61 could well be a comet, said Professor Brown, from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena. When it becomes a comet, it will be the brightest we will ever see. Cosmic oddball 2003 EL61 is a large object; it is as big as Pluto along its longest dimension. It is one of the largest of a swarm of icy objects that inhabit a region of the outer Solar System known as the Kuiper Belt. But it is extremely unusual: spinning on its axis every four hours, it has developed an elongated shape. 2003 EL61 is apparently composed of rock with just a thin veneer of water-ice covering its surface. Other Kuiper Belt Objects (KBOs) contain much more water-ice. Professor Brown's computer simulations show that the object is on a very unstable orbit and set for a close encounter with Neptune. The eighth planet's gravitational force could either sling the icy rock ball into the inner Solar System as a comet, out into the distant Oort Cloud region, or even into interstellar space. Orbits of Kuiper Belt Objects tend to be very stable, but the region is thought to be a reservoir for short-period comets. Occasionally, some of these objects must get tossed inward to become the fizzing lumps of ice and dust that criss-cross our cosmic neighbourhood. Shedding surface Mike Brown and his colleagues have come up with a scenario to explain 2003 EL61's physical characteristics and behaviour. About 4.5 billion years ago, the object that became 2003 EL61 was a ball, half composed of ice and half of rock - like Pluto - and about the same size as Pluto. Some time early in its history, it was smacked, edge on, by another large KBO. This broke off much of 2003 EL61's icy mantle, which coalesced to form several satellites. As expected, the satellites seem to be composed of very pure water-ice. Professor Brown suggested that some of 2003 EL61's mantle may already have made it into the inner Solar System as cometary material. The oblique impact also caused 2003 EL61 to spin rapidly. This rapid rotation elongated 2003 EL61 into the rugby ball shape we see today. It's a bit like the story of Mercury, Professor Brown explained. Mercury got hit by a large object early in the Solar System. It left mostly a big iron core, with a little bit of rock on the outside. This is mostly a rock core with a little bit of ice on the outside. Mike Brown outlined details of his work during a plenary lecture at the recent American Astronomical Society meeting in Seattle. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587
Dear List, START THE TUCSON SHOW A WEEK EARLY!! Here is the deal of the century! Since I don't sell out of a room during the Tucson Show, and for those who will not be able to attend this year, I am bringing the Show to you by listing 36 specimens of my NWA 011 pairing on eBay. I just received the number assignment and it is NWA 4587. NWA 011 was once thought to have come from Mercury but scientific analysis performed since then and multiple measurements of oxygen isotopes determine it to be an Ungrouped Achondrite. Another pairing to NWA 011 has been selling briskly over the last year at $1,000.00 per gram and is basically sold out. Not here, I am offering NWA 4587 during a short time for as low as $181.00 per gram for the main mass and $195.00 to $250.00 per gram for complete and part slices. The sizes available range from the 143.3 gram Main Mass, 20.7 gram slice and all the way down to 656mg for a small part slice. These are the largest specimens and the best deal of a NWA 011 pairing you will find anywhere. I loaded the largest and best specimens available so if you are interested, do not hesitate as these will not last long at these low prices. NWA 4587 is offered under my eBay seller name, NaturesVault. Here are just a couple of the 36 specimens available: 143.3g Main Mass http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075850082rd=1rd=1 20.7g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075850613rd=1rd=1 18.8g Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075850834rd=1rd=1 13.7g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075851055rd=1rd=1 10.6g Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075851306rd=1rd=1 10.5g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075851517rd=1rd=1 9.7g Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075851777rd=1rd=1 9.6g End Cut http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075852043rd=1rd=1 5.3g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075852298rd=1rd=1 5.1g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075852528rd=1rd=1 4.372g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075852932rd=1rd=1 3.6g Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180075853407rd=1rd=1 ...To see all that I have available of NWA 4587, click on one of the above links and then click View seller's other items. That, or go to eBay and search for NWA 4587 Meteorite. In addition to these awesome specimens, I have loaded many Wholesale-priced 1 and 2-kilo Lots of classified and unclassified material. I have auctions ending today as well, many of which are still at the 99 cent starting price, great deals will be had. Best regards and Thank You for bidding and/or looking, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia
Hi Bernd + List, As promised, I added some photographs with better resolution. I made them through a magnifying lens. Light is not ideal, but better resolution it has. The first three detail pictures show the area near a dark clasts. Detail nr. 4 shows a 10mm droplett. Detail nr. 5 shows a 5mm dark spot with the largest metalic iron spot (in the polished planes) to it's right. http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Acfer500g.htm Hope you enjoy it + maybe get some extra info out of it. regards, Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Lenssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Thank you very much for your reaction Bernd. Like I wrote before, it was covered in desert varnish when I got it. The two polished planes present fractured sides, that I planed removing as less material as possible. Before planing they already showed dark lumbs. Like it fractured around them. Don't think it is planetary though, as it is magnetic and shows the typical (chondrite) dots of iron in the surface. I will try to make better pictures and will share them with you. regards, Rob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Acfer breccia Hello Rob L. and List, Look what I found after cleaning and polishing a desert varnish covered Acfer: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Acfer500g.htm Dark clasts in lighter matrix. Also metal spots in the dark clasts. Any idea what this might be? In chondrites I typically see lighter clasts in darker matrix. What a beautiful Açfer chondrite! Is it a chondrite after all? The pictures should have a higher resolution. Are there any chondrules? Questions, questions, questions! Anyway, it does look quite fresh, so it should be something like W1 or W2 at most. It does look highly shocked ... at least S4 but more probably S5 or even S6. Well, that sounds like silicate darkening. Maybe the silicate clasts were not so very dark prior to the shock event but experienced extensive darkening (caused by melting of metal-sulfide). As for: In chondrites I typically see lighter clasts in darker matrix Here are some chondrites that have dark inclusions: NWA 0869, NWA 0978, NWA 1794, NWA 3346, OUED EL HADJAR, RICHFIELD, TANEZROUFT 061, etc., etc. Anyway, a mighty beautiful chondrite, something that, as Dean would now say you just gotta love! ... and if it is not a chondrite ??? Could this be a planetary meteorite??? Questions, questions, questions! Cheers, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference?
The 3mg of lunar material alone with a suitable mark upin it it'd cost about £4 ($8) a pint. That's more expensive than London (if memory serves correct, though not by much in some places) And with Iron and Nickel content I suspect it'd just taste like Irn Bru (Scotland's answer to Coke). I'd only try making it myself if I was drunk already and that'd be missing the point methinks. With people carving meteorites into owls, swans, bears, eagles etc, I'm torn between which is a bigger waste of this material. If you REALLY wanted to get the conspiracy theorists working on it, you'd need to start a Xenomorph Supplies website and as soon as somebody asks you about it send them an email denying the drinks existence and close the site down within 48hrs with no explanation. Great fun Rob McC --- Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, what about getting in touch with a small brewery and getting them to mix a bag of meteorite dust in with a batch of stout. You could label it 'Star Beer, A special dietary supplement for aliens living on Earth.' Now wouldn't that send the conspiracists into a spin. 'Contains (measured as a % of solid matter in suspension) chondrite 85%, achondrite 10%, Lunar and other 3%, Iron, Nickel and trace elements 2%.' Each bottle contains a minimum of 100 mg of extraterrestrial matter. 7 fl Oz contains 50% of the minimum weekly requirements of these elements for normal alien biological functions. Manufactured on Earth for Off World Catering Services, a division of Greater Galactic. Greater Galactic. Paris, New York, Sydney, Alpha Centauri, Bellatrix. Who here would but a bottle of Star Beer? I reckon it might be good to drink if you had the runs. Hoo roo. Kevin, VK3UKF. Hi, Here's the few websites with references to eating Novo Urei that Google could find: http://www.meteorites.tv/contents/en-us/d74.html The Labennes http://www.meteorite.fr/en/classification/PAC-group.htm Bruno and Carine http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:v1f79uyArJ0J:six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2004-August/163642.html+novo+urei+eatenhl=engl=usct=clnkcd=3 Novo Urei fall sept 4, 1886 (the Ureilite class name giving meteorite ) was eaten the indigeneous after the fall. The some Dag 489 Shergottite was eaten by its finder. ( he likes to tell that story ) I ate recently some fragments of my new diogenite that dropped on my bench after trimming. Not bad ! www.caillou-noir.com/Molay.htm It is the one that tastes so good. I will recommand to former meteorite eaters to focus on achondrites, the ones where there is less Ni. Shall I propose to our local brewery ( Micro Basserie de Chamonix, Canadian owner, just a good place to drink.) to make a try with some Dio powder from a future sawing ? --- Michel Franco I find it interesting that all the references on the eating Novo Urei were written by individuals of that nation with the reputation for the greatest of gustatory sophistication: La Belle Patrie -- France! Perhaps they have recipes to share? (Michel Franco has already suggested what to drink with your meteorite.) And Kim Stanley Robinson, author of the Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), ate a piece of Zagami after he mailed the final manuscript to his publisher, while sitting on his roof, then wrote a poem about Eating Mars. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Trace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference? I remember reading the story about the meteorites being eaten for their 'magical' properties. I thought I saw it on a website. Though, I can't seem to find it now. Trace - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mark Grossman' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novo-Urei eaten - reference? Hi Mark, I don't know the original reference fort the story, that the locals ate some stones of Novo-Urei, We have to ask, Biblio-Bernd or Seguej Vassiliev. So I will send this question to the list. ...and Novo-Urei really looks tasty! http://www.geokhi.ru/~meteorit/opis/novo-urei-e.html Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Grossman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 02:37 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 Martin, Thanks so much for the response! Do you have a reference for this? I thought I read something in Burke? Thanks! Mark - Original Message -
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869
Welcome Mark. Here's a more recent story. On August 14, 1992, dozens of rocks fell on the African town of Mbale in Uganda (Sky Telescope: June 1993, page 96). Local residents ground up some of the fragments and ingested the powder as medicine. They believed the rocks had been sent by their god to cure AIDS. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:16:57 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 Hello to everyone. I am a new collector and subscriber to the list. When I join a new list, I usually just observe for awhile before I put my foot in the water (to avoid putting my foot in my mouth!). But I am particularly interested in the history of meteorites, and I noted the comment about the meteorite looking like chocolate. I seem to remember reading somewhere that peasants used to grind up meteorites hundreds of years ago and eat them for their magical properties. I checked Burke's history of meteorites very quickly, but couldn't find the reference. Is there anyone out there that read the same thing? And I do apologize in advance if I am saying something that everyone knows already - remember, this is my first post. Thanks, now I'll go back and just watch the list postings. Glad to be a subscriber, and a great hobby! Mark Grossman PS - Regarding the lost meteorite, I am not at all inferring that anyone's friends are peasants! - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869 Now THAT is the best theory yet! :) Gary On 16 Jan 2007 at 11:52, Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge wrote: maybe someone ate it, it does look like a piece of chocolate! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet McNaught Update - January 17, 2007
Space Weather News for Jan. 17, 2007 http://spaceweather.com COMET UPDATE: Comet McNaught is emerging from the glare of the sun and, as expected, solar heating has turned it into a spectacular naked-eye comet. McNaught is visible from all parts of the Southern Hemisphere, sporting a curved tail and a head almost as bright as the planet Venus. Northerners can watch the comet's progress by browsing daily photo galleries at http://SpaceWeather.com. Southerners should go outside tonight at sunset, look west and see for themselves. [snip] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587
Hello, Most of us will by now have read and seen Greg's AD re: NWA 4587. If you are looking for a thorough and in-depth description of this unique meteorite that had at first been classified as a highly metamorphosed, unbrecciated eucrite similar to the vesicular Ibitira and was then found to be similar to the CR clan (!) - by the way, visually it resembles the sugary-textured Agoult - then I would recommend you go to David's excellent website: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/ .. go to UNGROUPED ACHONDRITES and then click on: NWA 011 where you will find a wealth of information on this NWA achondrite beauty! Pardon? Oh, you would like to know if I have purchased some of this unique material? Yes, I must proudly admit. I have. Here is the item number of my beautiful, little partslice just in case you care ;-) Item number: 180075858766 Best achondritic wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA998 Meteorite Thin Sections by Tom Phillips
Check out these fantastic this sections of Lunar NWA998 by Tom Phillips. It doesn't get any better than this; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/thinsections-tomphillips-nwa998.html Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AML Price List
A friend just emailed me and told me he came across a 1965 price list from Glenn Huss. Read on, but do not crap your pants:) 76 lb. Odessa etched end piece w/ troilite and graphite nodules for $15/lb. , Arcadia, Nebraska (achondrite) for $.44/gram, a 461 g DeNova, Colo for $184.00, a 298 gram individual Fleming, CO for $476, a 14.5 g individual Holbrook collected in the 1930's for $7.35, a 10.5 g Norton County for $10.50, a 1.6 g Pasamonte frag for $3.00, and a 1,086 g individual Plainview for $157 -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587
Hi Bernd and List, Thank you Bernd for directing interested parties to David's web site. He really does have a great deal of information regarding NWA 4587 noted. One question that I have been asked a few times today is, What are those occasional dark inclusions within the orange matrix? In an email I received when I asked the scientists the very same question last month, this is the reply, Based on our experience with NWA 2400 and NWA 2976, the large black grains in the slice of GH-231 (NWA 4587) you sent is chromite and ilmenite... Scientists at the University of Washington will be probing those dark inclusions for further study soon, so perhaps something new will be gleaned by studying larger samples provided by the 530-gram NWA 4587 stone. If we learn more, I will report back here with any additional information. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Hello, Most of us will by now have read and seen Greg's AD re: NWA 4587. If you are looking for a thorough and in-depth description of this unique meteorite that had at first been classified as a highly metamorphosed, unbrecciated eucrite similar to the vesicular Ibitira and was then found to be similar to the CR clan (!) - by the way, visually it resembles the sugary-textured Agoult - then I would recommend you go to David's excellent website: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/ .. go to UNGROUPED ACHONDRITES and then click on: NWA 011 where you will find a wealth of information on this NWA achondrite beauty! Pardon? Oh, you would like to know if I have purchased some of this unique material? Yes, I must proudly admit. I have. Here is the item number of my beautiful, little partslice just in case you care ;-) Item number: 180075858766 Best achondritic wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
To get to inflation corrected values, multiply with factor 6. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matt Morgan Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 23:24 An: Meteorite List Betreff: [meteorite-list] AML Price List A friend just emailed me and told me he came across a 1965 price list from Glenn Huss. Read on, but do not crap your pants:) 76 lb. Odessa etched end piece w/ troilite and graphite nodules for $15/lb. , Arcadia, Nebraska (achondrite) for $.44/gram, a 461 g DeNova, Colo for $184.00, a 298 gram individual Fleming, CO for $476, a 14.5 g individual Holbrook collected in the 1930's for $7.35, a 10.5 g Norton County for $10.50, a 1.6 g Pasamonte frag for $3.00, and a 1,086 g individual Plainview for $157 -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
I have some old WARDS catalogs from the 1920s and 1930s, if you think those prices are low, you should see these! for example, from a July, 1921 price list: Ballinoo Australia, 2,278 grams $150.00 Canyon City Colorado, 321 grams $50.00 Seelasgen Germany, 809 grams $100.00 Steinbach Germany, 198 grams $67.50. Crab Orchard mesosiderite 1023 grams $110.00 Morristown mesosiderite 307 grams $60.00 Cumberland Falls, complete stone, 135 grams $55.00 Holbrook 495 grams $30.00 Junvinas eucrite with crust 45 grams $24.00 Lundsgard Sweden, 94 gram complete stone $94.00 Mocs, complete stone 179 grams $20.00 Richardton complete stone 2943 grams $265.00 Trenzano Italy, 18 grams with crust $12.00 Now those were the good old days, of course, a new car back then cost like $1000.00! Michael Farmer --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get to inflation corrected values, multiply with factor 6. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matt Morgan Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 23:24 An: Meteorite List Betreff: [meteorite-list] AML Price List A friend just emailed me and told me he came across a 1965 price list from Glenn Huss. Read on, but do not crap your pants:) 76 lb. Odessa etched end piece w/ troilite and graphite nodules for $15/lb. , Arcadia, Nebraska (achondrite) for $.44/gram, a 461 g DeNova, Colo for $184.00, a 298 gram individual Fleming, CO for $476, a 14.5 g individual Holbrook collected in the 1930's for $7.35, a 10.5 g Norton County for $10.50, a 1.6 g Pasamonte frag for $3.00, and a 1,086 g individual Plainview for $157 -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
Michael Farmer wrote: I have some old WARDS catalogs from the 1920s and 1930s, if you think those prices are low, you should see these! During the depression wasn't a loaf of bread like a penny? If you could find a job to earn one! Who was buying space rocks I can't imagine. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
Inflation calculator gives a factor x 11.3 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michael Farmer Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007 01:16 An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List I have some old WARDS catalogs from the 1920s and 1930s, if you think those prices are low, you should see these! for example, from a July, 1921 price list: Ballinoo Australia, 2,278 grams $150.00 Canyon City Colorado, 321 grams $50.00 Seelasgen Germany, 809 grams $100.00 Steinbach Germany, 198 grams $67.50. Crab Orchard mesosiderite 1023 grams $110.00 Morristown mesosiderite 307 grams $60.00 Cumberland Falls, complete stone, 135 grams $55.00 Holbrook 495 grams $30.00 Junvinas eucrite with crust 45 grams $24.00 Lundsgard Sweden, 94 gram complete stone $94.00 Mocs, complete stone 179 grams $20.00 Richardton complete stone 2943 grams $265.00 Trenzano Italy, 18 grams with crust $12.00 Now those were the good old days, of course, a new car back then cost like $1000.00! Michael Farmer --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get to inflation corrected values, multiply with factor 6. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matt Morgan Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 23:24 An: Meteorite List Betreff: [meteorite-list] AML Price List A friend just emailed me and told me he came across a 1965 price list from Glenn Huss. Read on, but do not crap your pants:) 76 lb. Odessa etched end piece w/ troilite and graphite nodules for $15/lb. , Arcadia, Nebraska (achondrite) for $.44/gram, a 461 g DeNova, Colo for $184.00, a 298 gram individual Fleming, CO for $476, a 14.5 g individual Holbrook collected in the 1930's for $7.35, a 10.5 g Norton County for $10.50, a 1.6 g Pasamonte frag for $3.00, and a 1,086 g individual Plainview for $157 -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
I remember Cohen's price compilations from 1880-1890 were more expensive. (I lost my notes..) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Weir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007 01:20 An: Michael Farmer Cc: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List Michael Farmer wrote: I have some old WARDS catalogs from the 1920s and 1930s, if you think those prices are low, you should see these! During the depression wasn't a loaf of bread like a penny? If you could find a job to earn one! Who was buying space rocks I can't imagine. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587
Hi John, Excellent photos! Thank you for sharing. This really is a fascinating meteorite. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Kashuba, Ontario, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Greg, Bernd and list, Yes, David's site is a great resource. Here are a few thin section pictures I took of NWA 2976, one of the pairings of this cool stone. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Pictures/NWA2976AnomAch.htm Regards, - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Hi Bernd and List, Thank you Bernd for directing interested parties to David's web site. He really does have a great deal of information regarding NWA 4587 noted. One question that I have been asked a few times today is, What are those occasional dark inclusions within the orange matrix? In an email I received when I asked the scientists the very same question last month, this is the reply, Based on our experience with NWA 2400 and NWA 2976, the large black grains in the slice of GH-231 (NWA 4587) you sent is chromite and ilmenite... Scientists at the University of Washington will be probing those dark inclusions for further study soon, so perhaps something new will be gleaned by studying larger samples provided by the 530-gram NWA 4587 stone. If we learn more, I will report back here with any additional information. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Hello, Most of us will by now have read and seen Greg's AD re: NWA 4587. If you are looking for a thorough and in-depth description of this unique meteorite that had at first been classified as a highly metamorphosed, unbrecciated eucrite similar to the vesicular Ibitira and was then found to be similar to the CR clan (!) - by the way, visually it resembles the sugary-textured Agoult - then I would recommend you go to David's excellent website: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/ .. go to UNGROUPED ACHONDRITES and then click on: NWA 011 where you will find a wealth of information on this NWA achondrite beauty! Pardon? Oh, you would like to know if I have purchased some of this unique material? Yes, I must proudly admit. I have. Here is the item number of my beautiful, little partslice just in case you care ;-) Item number: 180075858766 Best achondritic wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gottingen University Meteorite Collection
Perhaps someone can be of assistance. I am trying to find out some information about a meteorite sample that came from the Gottingen University collection in Germany. As far as I know, the meteorite curator is Mike Reich, and I have traded an e-mail with him, but then lost contact. Does anyone know Mike, or another contact for the Gottingen University meteorite collection, who might be able to provide me with information on some meteorite samples in their collection? Thanks in advance. Mark__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The European Commission on Languages (Way Off Topic)
This is way off topic and has nothing to do with meteorites or astronomy, but with the international flavor of this list, perhaps a little chuckle would be in order. geozay - The European Commission on Languages has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as Euro-English. In the first year, s will replace the soft c. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard cwill be dropped in favour of k. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome ph will be replaced with f. This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent e in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing thwith z and wwith v. During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary o kan be dropd from vords kontaining ou and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas. If zis mad you smil, pleas pas other pepl. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] COMET McNAUGHT IS STILL VISIBLE IN DAYLIGHT!
Hello all, Don't know why my report of my last daylight sighting of this comet (01/16/07) did not go through, so I post again. I was very impressed to have spotted it yesterday in Flagstaff's clear blue skies, and I had some of my co-workers come out and confirm my sightings. They were just as amazed as me to have seen it. I also pointed out Venus well to the left and up above it which they also spotted as well. They were amazed that I pointed it out as they had no idea that one could actually see a planet in broad daylight. In regards to Comet McNaught the forward scatter is rapidly vanishing and it is very unlikely that it will be seen today by anyone in broad daylight (unless you are on a very high mountain with very clear skies). I will give it my last try this afternoon. If I can't see it with my naked eyes, I won't try with binoculars as it is too dangerous to look anywhere near the sun. This brings up a question to all. Did anyone down south of the equator see this in broad daylight from 01/12 to 01/16? All the reports I have thus far seen are from the north. It should have been easily seen in broad daylight down there as the sun would be higher in a blue sky. Steve Schoner IMCA #4470 Please note: message attached ---BeginMessage--- ---End Message--- Hello all, This may be your last chance to see it in broad daylight. It is very faint here in Flagstaff, so those of you that have clear blue sky go out and look. Block out the sun, with your hand or by a building. Look southeast and to the left about a hand's width down. Sway back and forth and it will pop into view as a fuzzy cloud with a bright concentration toward the sun. Swaying against a background object such as a tree or the edge of the building that blocks out the sun is essential to focus on it. The comet will move as you move and thus it stands out like a faint cloud in the blue sky. Venus can also be seen to the east of it several handwidths above and to the left. Right now at 12.15 PM MST the comet is slightly brighter than Venus. Steve Schoner IMCA #4470 Hello all, This may be your last chance to see it in broad daylight. It is very faint here in Flagstaff, so those of you that have clear blue sky go out and look. Block out the sun, with your hand or by a building. Look southeast and to the left about a hand's width down. Sway back and forth and it will pop into view as a fuzzy cloud with a bright concentration toward the sun. Swaying against a background object such as a tree or the edge of the building that blocks out the sun is essential to focus on it. The comet will move as you move and thus it stands out like a faint cloud in the blue sky. Venus can also be seen to the east of it several handwidths above and to the left. Right now at 12.15 PM MST the comet is slightly brighter than Venus. Steve Schoner IMCA #4470 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] COMET McNAUGHT IS STILL VISIBLE IN DAYLIGHT!
Hello all, This may be your last chance to see it in broad daylight. It is very faint here in Flagstaff, so those of you that have clear blue sky go out and look. Block out the sun, with your hand or by a building. Look southeast and to the left about a hand's width down. Sway back and forth and it will pop into view as a fuzzy cloud with a bright concentration toward the sun. Swaying against a background object such as a tree or the edge of the building that blocks out the sun is essential to focus on it. The comet will move as you move and thus it stands out like a faint cloud in the blue sky. Venus can also be seen to the east of it several handwidths above and to the left. Right now at 12.15 PM MST the comet is slightly brighter than Venus. Steve Schoner IMCA #4470 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Poem
Since we're on the subject, I thought I would share this with you. I wrote this poem after taking a Geology and Space Science course two years ago from Dr. Mike Reynolds. Ode to Dr. Mike and His Space Cadets Wildacres, 2005 By Anita D. Westlake I must confess I didn't know Binoculars were fun We talked about them that first class Until the day was done. The second day was telescopes The big, the bad, the Go-To's It's amazing what I didn't know That just goes to show you! Next we played with our planispheres And it's here that I must lament, I looked in the sky both day and night And never found the grommet. The things we saw that first clear night The Moon! Jupiter! Saturn! The oohs and ahhs that issued forth Were to become a pattern. The moon was full and shining bright And Saturn wore its rings But Jupiter's four trailing moons Was the most amazing thing! And then we learned of meteorites Those visitors from space Dr. Mike says Keep Looking Up! They'll land right on your face! Ataxites, Achrondrites Who knew there were such words? There's one called Camel Donga That sounds just like a...bird We learned what makes stars twinkle It's written down in song But you haven't lived until you've learned A meteorite from wrong. How could I live this long on Earth Not seeing the stars so boundless? I've always looked down at the ground In my life as a Rockhoundress. So now I'm really troubled With this new love that I've found When I leave the comfort of my home Should I look up or down? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay user IDs
The hiding of the bidders IDs applies only to auctions that reach $200 or more. ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -Ben www.LaunchPhotography.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 64
Meteors happen equally day or night, but they are far more likely to be seen at night. I would just like to add that barring a shower, the most meteor active period on a 24 hour clock would generally be around 6 am, while the least active period will be near 6 pm. This is because around 6 am, that part of the earth is the leading edge as it orbits around the sun. While around 6 pm, it is that part of the earth that is the trailing edge. The earth then becomes a big shield for that trailing edge of the sky. Meteors you see around that time has to do a little catching up from behind to enter the earths atmosphere. Thus they will also generally appear rather slow. George Zay __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Martian meteorite
Hi Darren What an interesting name: Santa Catarina. There is actually already a meteorite on earth called Santa Catharina. I wonder if that will be enough of a difference to keep that name. Interestingly Santa Catharina is most likely a spelling error and should actually be spelled Santa Catarina. Since it has been spelled wrong for so long the misspelling is actually set in stone and will not be changed. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 1/16/07, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck getting a slice. http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Opportunity_Finds_Another_Meteorite_999.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tired of winter? Not headed for Tucson soon?
Dear List; Not going to Tucson? How about a fast trip today? Here is a photo web look at Tucson today! The high here in RS WY was 6 degrees. Sunny Catalina Mtns. Tucson, AZ. Best, Dave F. http://www.cs.arizona.edu/camera/week.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] anyone have Dar al Gani 521
DaG 521 its ended from many time, hard find pieces now Matteo --- Michael Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Anyone have a piece of Dar al Gani 521? I'm interested in the stained interior. I have a couple questions if you have it. Thanks Michael Murray __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
David wrote: During the depression wasn't a loaf of bread like a penny? If you could find a job to earn one! Who was buying space rocks I can't imagine. Imagine some character named Nininger? Though you're right - that's why he was so successful! Btw, the loaf of bread was $0.07. And a car cost $450, $60 less than a house in the Nininger golden age (e.g. Pasamonte, NM era - 1933). Nininger paid $1 per pound for space rocks. That's less than a quarter of a US cent per gram wholesale. And who's complaining that the naughty dealers like Ward turned around and sold them so cheaply at 5 cents to $1.00 a gram, tsk, tsk... Good health, Doug PS, Matt, 1965? for how much did H.H. sell his collection to Arizona in 1960? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
No ideawho has the number? Matt Good health, Doug PS, Matt, 1965? for how much did H.H. sell his collection to Arizona in 1960? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Poem
Hi All and Anita! How wonderful it is to read your poem. Do you write more poetry? You are right about wondering about looking up or down. I do both now, before I searched for meteorites I don't recall looking up often unless I went to see a meteor shower. Thanks for sharing! A nice way to end the day! With best regards, Moni From: Anita D. Westlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Poem Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:33:25 -0500 Since we're on the subject, I thought I would share this with you. I wrote this poem after taking a Geology and Space Science course two years ago from Dr. Mike Reynolds. Ode to Dr. Mike and His Space Cadets Wildacres, 2005 By Anita D. Westlake I must confess I didn't know Binoculars were fun We talked about them that first class Until the day was done. The second day was telescopes The big, the bad, the Go-To's It's amazing what I didn't know That just goes to show you! Next we played with our planispheres And it's here that I must lament, I looked in the sky both day and night And never found the grommet. The things we saw that first clear night The Moon! Jupiter! Saturn! The oohs and ahhs that issued forth Were to become a pattern. The moon was full and shining bright And Saturn wore its rings But Jupiter's four trailing moons Was the most amazing thing! And then we learned of meteorites Those visitors from space Dr. Mike says Keep Looking Up! They'll land right on your face! Ataxites, Achrondrites Who knew there were such words? There's one called Camel Donga That sounds just like a...bird We learned what makes stars twinkle It's written down in song But you haven't lived until you've learned A meteorite from wrong. How could I live this long on Earth Not seeing the stars so boundless? I've always looked down at the ground In my life as a Rockhoundress. So now I'm really troubled With this new love that I've found When I leave the comfort of my home Should I look up or down? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Queensland Meteorite Interest Group Update
Listoids some cosmetic text editing... http://www.rawnet.com.au/~qwalkra1/index.htm 3 specimens from Georgetown today - one fails the density test, one fails the mark one eyeball test, another hmmm yep it has to be cut - bad karma coz pink cutting slurry means iron-stone or haematite its as good a time as any to start the meteorwrong page Rotten postman still has my polished thin-slide but I am lurking in ambush each day More updates when my horoscope improves Happy landings __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List
Some one cover this already? I read that the majority of the Nininger Collection was sold for $275,000, far below the listed value. You can read more about it in the book Find A Falling Star. Good Night, Moni From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AML Price List Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:29:59 -0700 No ideawho has the number? Matt Good health, Doug PS, Matt, 1965? for how much did H.H. sell his collection to Arizona in 1960? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donationFORM=WLMTAG __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587
Hi All, promise just one more. These images are out of this world! Is there a calendar available that anyone knows of? Totally amazing! Moni From: Kashuba, Ontario, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:51:19 -0800 Greg, Bernd and list, Yes, David's site is a great resource. Here are a few thin section pictures I took of NWA 2976, one of the pairings of this cool stone. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Pictures/NWA2976AnomAch.htm Regards, - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Hi Bernd and List, Thank you Bernd for directing interested parties to David's web site. He really does have a great deal of information regarding NWA 4587 noted. One question that I have been asked a few times today is, What are those occasional dark inclusions within the orange matrix? In an email I received when I asked the scientists the very same question last month, this is the reply, Based on our experience with NWA 2400 and NWA 2976, the large black grains in the slice of GH-231 (NWA 4587) you sent is chromite and ilmenite... Scientists at the University of Washington will be probing those dark inclusions for further study soon, so perhaps something new will be gleaned by studying larger samples provided by the 530-gram NWA 4587 stone. If we learn more, I will report back here with any additional information. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 011 Pairing - NWA 4587 Hello, Most of us will by now have read and seen Greg's AD re: NWA 4587. If you are looking for a thorough and in-depth description of this unique meteorite that had at first been classified as a highly metamorphosed, unbrecciated eucrite similar to the vesicular Ibitira and was then found to be similar to the CR clan (!) - by the way, visually it resembles the sugary-textured Agoult - then I would recommend you go to David's excellent website: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/ .. go to UNGROUPED ACHONDRITES and then click on: NWA 011 where you will find a wealth of information on this NWA achondrite beauty! Pardon? Oh, you would like to know if I have purchased some of this unique material? Yes, I must proudly admit. I have. Here is the item number of my beautiful, little partslice just in case you care ;-) Item number: 180075858766 Best achondritic wishes, Bernd _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donationFORM=WLMTAG __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Roger Warin Northbranch Meteorite Thin Section Images
Hello list, Roger Warin was kind enough to take some Northbranch meteorite thin sections images, which I have posted on my website here: http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colnorthbranch.html When I look at my Northbranch meteorite thin section, under the microscope or in hand, the thing I notice the most of the meteorite is it's weathering. Metal has bled in the matrix around it, heavy weathering in the meteorite cracks. The weathering portions giving the specimen a reddish tink. And again, more of Roger's thin section images can be found here, www.agab.be Those that have not started a meteorite thin section collection I would suggest doing such if possible. You will quickly learn, a $70 meteorite thin section is far more interesting and will take you a lot more time to examine then a $500 gram sample of the same. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
