List,
"Randall Gregory's" last post (the one
with an attachment) has a running script in
it, i.e., may be viral or otherwise harmless.
> I meant to say HARMFUL, not harmless
obviously. We have a serial jerk running amuck
on the List.
I burned it. What is a script? "A script is
basicly
List,
"Randall Gregory's" last post (the one
with an attachment) has a running script in
it, i.e., may be viral or otherwise harmless.
I burned it. What is a script? "A script is
basicly a program, and if your e-mail client
opens it, it'll do whatever it was intended
to do, which cou
Hola, Doug,
I think the variety of reports I've already posted
and then referred to several times, are all that I can
say to your dislike for my reconstruction of the
event. I confess to being somewhat mystified by
your comments.
> The size of the crater, which is rare or even unique...
Bob and list,
Don't get me wrong: Dr. Randall Cirrhosis is obviously
manipulative and has double standards, since he
"understands" Peruvian cultural intricacies, and can
thus behave like a colonialist. I wouldn't call it
hypocrisy, since he has not made any attempt to hide
his actions from our cri
Oh, I wouldn't say, that it is a waste of time.
Other people are paying money to see such great films like
"The treasure of the Sierra Madre"
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg
Hupe
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Oktober 2007 03:54
Darren,
Thanks that was a good laugh before I turn in for the night.
Bob
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From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Great shor of the crater
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/crater.
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/crater.jpg
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http://www.andina.com.pe/NoticiaDetalle.aspx?id=144322
I will translate it here for those who do not read
spanish.
Michael Farmer
"Police in Desaguadero Deny having sold pieces of
meteorite to Americans"
Desaguadero, Oct 4. The cheif of police in
Desaguadero, Major Victor Anaya denied having
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_7085693
Japan's SELENE probe reaches lunar orbit
By ERIC TALMADGE Associated Press Writer
News Fuze
Article Launched:10/04/2007 05:46:19 PM PDT
TOKYOJapan has placed a satellite in orbit around the moon for the first time,
officials said Friday, in a major
Not so fast Sterling :-) The size of the crater, which is rare or even
unique... doesn't make mucked-up analyses a requirement!
Short and simple as I just read your reply to me in which you somehow missed
the central point I asked about when you insisted that the crater contains
nothing but p
Listoids
Something to take your mind off the Peru bickering - I swear North
Queensland is the best holiday destination on earth - great barrier reef
sunshine sand palm trees coral and thats just the coastline - lets not
forget about the outback and rainforests and...
More of a downdate rathe
Why post for the guy? Tell him to post directly to Mike instead wasting the
rest of our time.
Best regards,
Greg
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
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www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163
- Original Message -
From: "fausta
Randall, I will not return my pieces, under Peruvian
law they belong to the landowner and Comunidad, I
purchased them from all of the locals, they got lots
of money, and were happy. I saved a few hundred grams
from being lost,. The government can take the
thousands of kilos of rust in two months wh
Will people stop posting for this guy ?
I think we heard enough about this crap already.
Mike, start selling please.
BE
- Original Message -
From: "fausta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Post from Randall
I was asked to po
I was asked to post this:
Hey Fausta, will you post for me? Please.
I propose this to Mr. Farmer. That we both return all of our meteorite's
to the Peruvian government and ask them permission if we can keep one
for our respective collections. They can make that decision. And they
can also
http://www.star-bits.com/impact-craters.htm
Hi everyone, Eric Olson is at my house to see the
Carancas meteorites, and he asked me to post this
link.
It is a list of every known impact crater of more than
10 meters in diameter, from which meteorites had been
found. Of all of those craters, not
i believe this is a reference to literary archetypes. take care
susan
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From: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On Meteorite Pricing and A Good Outcome
>A hero kills people, people that w
As more of a reader than poster please take your snipes off-line.
No one cares what you have to say - really!
Kelly
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
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oh o..
A hero kills people, people that wish them harm. A hero >is part human and
part supernatural. A hero is born out >of a childhood trauma, or out of a
disaster that must be >avenged.
What?
-Walter Branch, Ph.D. (child and adolescent psychologist)
- Original Message
Hi, List
Just to reinforce a point...
If you go that second story:
http://www.livinginperu.com/news/4840
and click to enlarge the picture, you will see
a marvelous view of the material "excavated"
by the impact that is now turned over in the
"rim." The great majority of it is blocks of
co
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:51:56 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>i also don't recall anyone having suggested that mike has been
>"heroic." however, mike's efforts and successes in meteorite
>recovery are nothing short of extraordinary.
>
>regardless of what anyone personally thinks of mike or his off-topic
Hi, Paul, List,
I just posted:
> The air in it weighs 14.7 pounds if you start
> at sea level, or 1200 grams...
Wrong!
Grabbing numbers from a column of numbers,
in a hurry, whoops! 1033 grams per sq. cm. is
sea level atmospheric pressure in metric.
The 1200 gram figure is the weight of a cubic
i also don't recall anyone having suggested that mike has been
"heroic." however, mike's efforts and successes in meteorite
recovery are nothing short of extraordinary.
regardless of what anyone personally thinks of mike or his off-topic
missives, any future overview of meteorite hunter
There is a definite change in tone in his apology email and this one
too. Is it sincere? Or is it like our old friend Ssssteve?
Only time will tell.
Mike Fowler
Chicago
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> --- Randall Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > You paid the police a service fee for driving you
> > out to the site in their 2 trucks. Gasoline is
> very
> > expensive there. Four dollars $4 a gallon if I
> > recall.
I gotta move to Peru. That's about half the cost of
"gasoline" in th
>> ...if you kick the tiger in the balls, you had
> better plan to deal with it's teeth!
> Michael Farmer
Tiger Mike!
It has a ring to it!
(the name, not the balls ;] )
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:10:03 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [mete
What Herman said!
-Walter Branch
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer-Moritz-Robert---Welcome Home!
Welcome to your homes and it sure is good to hear from Mike abo
Ok, now Randall, or the "Doctor" claims that the money
extracted from me was for police "expenses"/
I guess they forgot to collect them from us on the way
to the crater, they decided to do it in plain-clothes
at 9 pm and 5 am, demanding hundreds of $$$ each.
Um, yeah, okk.
It seems that m
Thanks Rob, a very interesting update. I had recently been discharges from
the Navy. The memories are very fresh nevertheless. The media was all over
our hapless efforts to catchup. Live TV debacles were aired much to the
chragrine of our government as one after another launch exploded or fissle
List members, here is a reply from Randall who admits
he is not a Doctor. He wanted me to post it to the
list, so read it and laugh some more at this pathetic
person. People like this are very dangerous.
Michael Farmer
--- Randall Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:53
Hello,
This is the wrong kind of press for the positive
promotion of meteorite collecting. Is it just me or
is this long repetitious string becoming boring? I
have callouses on my index finger from deleteing.
Collectors should be pleased that there is a new fall
but as is the norm, jealousys, gr
Finaly the press presents my side and some facts!
http://www.livinginperu.com/news/4840
We will see what happens to Mr Randall now, perhaps
the Peruvian government will come get their stolen
piece back from him since he thinks that he is the
only person who can buy meteorites in Peru.
Mike
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:34:55 -0600, you wrote:
>Peru close proximity to the fall site versus Mike Farmer's home locale
>of Tucson should indicate that Randall's specimens be priced far less
>than Mike's.
>
Yes, it should.
>
>Hunting and dealing meteorites is not a "heroic" achievement as some
>se
Hi, Mike, List,
At Carancas the meteoroid only traveled though
58% of the Earth's atmospheric mass and density.
"Pressure" is just the mass of the atmosphere
that is above where you are. Picture a square inch
cross-section column rising from the surface of the
planet out to the vacuum of
Part Two of Two
I am curious how dealers price self-recovered meteorites. Certainly, a
rare species of low TWK with a "story" is max value. But there has
been mention in the past by certain dealers that new specimens were
being priced according to the money spent by that recoverer. Based on
this m
Make sure you check out the link for the other meteorite story at the end of
this article. Has a nice photo of Mike at the crater. Good job and welcome
back, Mike!
M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.livinginperu.com/news-4832-environmentnature-meteorite-cr
http://www.livinginperu.com/news-4832-environmentnature-meteorite-crater-guarded-perus-police-after-u-s-citizens-attempt-traffick-it
oh o.is good Farmer not return in Perù
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Hola a todos:
I would like to comment on some of the aspects of the Peru meteorite.
This will be message "One of Two."
First, I would like to share the following, transmitted to me and used
by permission from Astronomer Gonzalo Pereira of the Planetario Max
Schreirer in La Paz, Bolivia. Before th
As to the mention of dense atmosphere, doesn't 90% of
the mass of the atmosphere lie below 2.5 miles above
sea level?
From my mountain climbing days, I remember that the rule of thumb
was that 50% of the atmosphere was below 3.5 miles or 18,000 feet.
The highest I made was the summit of Popo
This was on the local new yesterday . I will be out looking !!
Ken Regelman
Astronomical Research Network
Flaming ball spotted in Minn., NW Iowa sky may have been meteor
Wednesday, October 03, 2007
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) Residents from the Twin Cities to the
southwestern corner of Minnesota and into I
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:33:12 -0700 (MST), you wrote:
>Hence the images of Hitler at the opening of the Olympics being picked up
>and re-transmitted in "Contact." Or I Love Lucy in an episode of Amazing
>Stories.
Or when the people of Omicron Persei 8 missed the series finale of Single Female
Lawye
Hello Sterling:
You need to take the ionosphere into account. If memory serves me, AM
radio does not get through, while FM does. TV gets through, too.
Hence the images of Hitler at the opening of the Olympics being picked up
and re-transmitted in "Contact." Or I Love Lucy in an episode of Amazing
Hi,
The Sputnik signal was very weak, powered as
it was by fading batteries, and of short duration.
But the true picture is that it was orbiting a rock
sphere that was ablaze in the radio spectrum, that
was already a powerful interstellar radio anomaly.
For the last 100 years, a strange a
I never thought of that elton, but indeed, at that
atitude, it was hard to breath, I had altitude
sickness much of the time, there, shortness of breath,
headaches and loss of apetite. At that altitude, the
air is very thin. I am sure that helped the meteorite
retain some speed, not to mention the f
Welcome to your homes and it sure is good to hear from Mike about their
adventure.I am glad you were able to acquire some of the meteorite for your
collections and probably for science.Your description really puts a human
perspective to meteorite hunting and retreival of specimens.YOU GUYS
Hello and good day David,
Wow, nice looking sphere. I really like the etch from Uruacu.
Would you please send me a link to your web site. I would like to see the
other additions to your collection.
Best to you,
Griff
Parker, Colorado
- Original Message -
From: "David & Kitt Deyar
Mike,
By the way... welcome back and I am happy to see that all (3) of you made it
back safe and sound. I am very happy to hear that you are alright and at
home. I don't think people really know how "iffy" and dangerous meteorite
hunting really can be and what situations are likely to arise while
I had three people in my party, so how they reported 5
Americans is beyond me. It shows the lack in
information that they use in Peru to print the news.
I have been on the phone for hours with the press in
Peru, and the embassy, and I have a funny feeling that
this will get much nastier now, that I
Nakhla Dog Meteorites warmly remembers all dogs in space, dogs that became
meteors, and dogs hit by them.
Rob Wesel
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We are the music makers...
and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971
The T
Hi Larry
Damn that is a long way away. Hard to fathom how far away 50 light
years is though.
I wonder what the chances are of the signal directly hitting anyone of
those 800 star/star systems.
It is neat to think that the signal is so far away but unfortunately
the signal would be unrecognizable t
Hi Robert, all -
At least the newspaper got it right - "5" meteorite
traficantes - Farmer had 3 in his party, so you were
in the company of someone else.
And yes, la mordida is a bane, of which you have
mastery. There is one thing that can be said for
Farmer, at least he openly reported his bri
Is this the Pete Pete that came to this list
pretending to be two different people using two
different email addresses? You know the one defending
the name of him which shall not be said here( Hint
:Gao)? The one who tipped his hand when he replied to
a personal email to his pretend address usin
Dirk:
1 light year = 9.46 X 10^15 meters or 9.46 x 10^12 km. So, in 50 years:
4.7 x 10^14 km (470 trillion kilimeters). That is within range of a lot of
stars.
There are a 100 stars within 7.63 parsecs (almost 25 light years), so if
you double the distance, there are about 800 stars (star system
In the name of sanity, can you please take this off-list?
Mark
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
everytime ridiculus...if I well remember I have put a
messagge of collection update at 2-3 months agoor I have
to ask the permito to you for put similar messagges?
Matteo
- Original Messa
everytime ridiculus...if I well remember I have put a
messagge of collection update at 2-3 months agoor I have
to ask the permito to you for put similar messagges?
Matteo
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Da : Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A : M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hello Floyd, Dean, List,
Floyd "Griff" Griffith's Bassikounou - 252.8 grams is today's RFS
and a beautiful stone it is. Congratulations! You just gotta love this
stark contrast between the jet-black, pristine fusion crust and the
light- to medium-gray equally pristine interior of this fresh chondr
Ok Matteo, whatever, I think I will explain my
situation thank you, there were more than 100 emails
since I posted from Bolivia, most of them saying
incorrect things about us. It is not only myself
involved, Moritz and Robert were also accused.
Not neccesary for you to report every time you post a
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 04:15:35 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
> Sputnik is now 50! Time flys. What does this have
>to do with meteorites?
Sputnik became a meteor in the end...
>
>BTW how far into space has Sputnik`s message now
>traveled after 50years??? Sterling...anyone???
Exactly 50 light-years!
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/October_4_2007.html
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Mr EMan wrote:
"Having received some request for more online map
information, here are some tips for locating free on
line maps.(Primarily USA)."
There are some web pages, which provide links for where
free GIS data, including scans of topographic and other
maps, called "DRGs" for various states
Good Morning All
I have auctions ending tonight, ebay ID catchafallingstar.com. ALL started
just at 99 Cents!!!
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcatchafallingstar.com
Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website:
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteor
Hi List,
Sputnik is now 50! Time flys. What does this have
to do with meteorites?...much more than you might
first think!...it totally changed our history and this
One Step for Mankind will continue to lead to our
future (survival/destruction) as well.
Congrats to the dedicated
Russians/Germa
As to the mention of dense atmosphere, doesn't 90% of
the mass of the atmosphere lie below 2.5 miles above
sea level/asl?
I surmise that the shear(no pun) height of the ground
there with the combination of a large meteoroid mass
may have allowed for more retention of cosmic velocity
then expecte
This has been a little lost with everything else that is going on but this
event was probably the largest in Australia in the past several years.
Bigger than the Western Australia event a year or two ago. In fact this was
seen upto around 400-500km away from Melbourne in a number of directions.
>Fr
I am so sorry Mia Culpa!
I was covering writing several articles tonight and
had a computer glitch along with a brain freeze.
I lost something in the process. What I should have
said was:
"Ringwoodite" a mineral and is the spinel polymorph of
olivine.
"Maskelynite" is not a mineral but a glas
It makes me wonder what soil/rock layers there are at the impact site. If
there are some samples of the harder rock that Mike mentions maybe it is an
indication of how deep the impactor went as it may have thrown up material
from deeper down. Just a thought. Given how wet and muddy the surface laye
Having received some request for more online map
information, here are some tips for locating free on
line maps.(Primarily USA). The good news is that
there is a federal program to publish digital products
online that will provide complete national coverage.
The bad news is that it is a federal p
Hi, Doug,
Much has been made of the fact this is
"wet" soil. Yes, it has a high water table and
underground streams and so forth. But this is
high mountain plains ("Altiplano"), an ancient
limestone intermountain basin. The "soil" is
rocky. Several strata of rock are visible in the
crater wall
we have understand you have received this this and this
emails, is not necessary repeat every time all...
Matteo
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A : M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Please explain what that means Matteo.
Do you find this funny?
Michael Farmer
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> again? Two balls
>
> Matteo
>
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> Ogget
again? Two balls
Matteo
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Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Dr Daniels - proposal for new
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Data : Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:33:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
> So what is your name? You insult me and my wif
So what is your name? You insult me and my wife,
make
fun of the fact that my wife has lost children, try
to
have me arrested, buy meteorites from the cops, try
to
sell them on this list, not you try to make it all
better by telling racist jokes? Dude, you are one
messed up piece of huma
List members, I am home after 22 hours of travel
today, thank god.
I am exhausted, no sleep for at least 3 days, imagine
how I do not want to write this tonight, but must get
my side out there.
I am going to give you all the exact truth about this
debacle, take it as you will.
Moritz Karl, Ro
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