Re: [meteorite-list] AD drama - an idea to solve it. - BAN BILL
bill kies says: I have asked Art many times why he tolerates this stuff. It's been years now. OK, how high of an IQ is required to be able to figure out that Art really doesn't care? How many times do you need to be told to be able to figure it out? A little more repetitive training required maybe? And who gave you the authority to simply declare yourself sheriff and to go on constantly spamming a thousand people with vile and personal attacks because you have something up your butt and don't like the way that somebody is running their discussion list that has absolutely nothing to do with you? Its not your list. Here is the real idea to solve the problem. You don't like the way the list is policed - so unsubscribe yourself. Nobody is forcing you to endure this misery for years now. You just don't get it do you. That personal attack on me had nothing to do with list policies or the discussion in question but everything to do about the real problem on this list. Nobody really cares wither I am doing well or on the way to the poorhouse or what the quality of what I am selling is. If they don't like my stuff they don't buy it. It was just a personal attack that you decided that you had to slip in for no sane reason other to spread more vile on the list. Its the attacks and bitching that is pissing people off. And today only you continue to expose the list to this senseless vile. Go away, the rest of us want to talk about, buy or sell meteorites. We are not interested in your senseless vile. Go create your own discussion group and then you can do whatever you want with it and you wont have to harass a discussion group owner and the people who are a member of his discussion list for years now. Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD drama - an idea to solve it. - BAN BILL
Dean. I've read some of my old posts to the met-list and thought to myself, how damn stupid was that. Maybe you should do the same. Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:23:33 -0700 From: deanbes...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD drama - an idea to solve it. - BAN BILL bill kies says: I have asked Art many times why he tolerates this stuff. It's been years now. OK, how high of an IQ is required to be able to figure out that Art really doesn't care? How many times do you need to be told to be able to figure it out? A little more repetitive training required maybe? And who gave you the authority to simply declare yourself sheriff and to go on constantly spamming a thousand people with vile and personal attacks because you have something up your butt and don't like the way that somebody is running their discussion list that has absolutely nothing to do with you? Its not your list. Here is the real idea to solve the problem. You don't like the way the list is policed - so unsubscribe yourself. Nobody is forcing you to endure this misery for years now. You just don't get it do you. That personal attack on me had nothing to do with list policies or the discussion in question but everything to do about the real problem on this list. Nobody really cares wither I am doing well or on the way to the poorhouse or what the quality of what I am selling is. If they don't like my stuff they don't buy it. It was just a personal attack that you decided that you had to slip in for no sane reason other to spread more vile on the list. Its the attacks and bitching that is pissing people off. And today only you continue to expose the list to this senseless vile. Go away, the rest of us want to talk about, buy or sell meteorites. We are not interested in your senseless vile. Go create your own discussion group and then you can do whatever you want with it and you wont have to harass a discussion group owner and the people who are a member of his discussion list for years now. Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
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[meteorite-list] Solar wind and reddening of asteroid surfaces (PDF file of paper)
Solar wind tans young asteroids, ESO 16/09 - Science Release, European Organisation for Astronomical Research in the Southern Hemisphere, April 22, 2009 http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/press-rel/pr-2009/pr-16-09.html The paper is: Vernazza, P., R. P. Binzel, A. Rossi, M. Fulchignoni, and M. Birlan, 2009, Solar wind as the origin of rapid reddening of asteroid surfaces. Nature. vol. 458, no. 7241, pp. 993-995, doi:10.1038/nature07956; http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v458/n7241/abs/nature07956.html The PDF file can be downloaded from: http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/press-rel/pr-2009/nature07956_proof1.pdf Young Asteroids Look Old http://www.eso.org/gallery/v/ESOPIA/illustrations/phot-16a-09-fullres.tif.html Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Accountability of Authors of Scientific Papers Accountability of authors (Nautilus) http://blogs.nature.com/nautilus/2007/10/accountability_of_authors.html Author contributions audit
Accountability of Authors of Scientific Papers Accountability of authors (Nautilus) http://blogs.nature.com/nautilus/2007/10/accountability_of_authors.html Author contributions audit (Nautilus) http://blogs.nature.com/nautilus/2007/11/post_12.html Authorship policies (Nature) http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v458/n7242/full/4581078a.html We are clarifying the duties of lead authors and making author-contribution statements mandatory. Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Ooohh, that's lovely! And on-topic, too. ;^) I'm still trying to find my first Murchison specimen. That would certainly meet my criteria, though I'm afraid it would exceed my modest budget. It's such a treat to look at though. Linton - Original Message - From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Retrograde Asteroid Found
A new asteroid was found April 29th orbiting the sun backwards. Calculating the orbit of the new asteroid is difficult because observational errors could cause a mis-projected orbit. This asteroid was close enough Observational Data: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K09/K09J04.html Article: Nearby asteroid found orbiting sun backwards 23:50 01 May 2009 by Jeff Hecht For similar stories, visit the Solar System and Comets and Asteroids Topic Guides The discovery of a 2- to 3-kilometre-wide asteroid in an orbit that goes backwards has set astronomers scratching their heads. It comes closer to Earth than any other object in a 'retrograde' orbit, and astronomers think they should have spotted it before. The object, called 2009 HC82, was discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey in Arizona on the morning of 29 April. From observations of its position by five different groups, Sonia Keys of the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center calculated it orbits the sun every 3.39 years on a path that ventures within 3.5 million km of the Earth's orbit. Combined with its size, that makes 2009 HC82 a potentially hazardous asteroid. What's really unusual is that the calculated orbit is inclined 155° to the plane of the Earth's orbit. That means that as it orbits the Sun, it actually travels backwards compared to the planets. It is only the 20th asteroid known in a retrograde orbit, a very rare group. None of the others comes as close to the Earth. SOURCE: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17073-nearby-asteroid-found-orbiting-sun-backwards.html -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Retrograde Asteroid Found
A new asteroid was found April 29th orbiting the sun backwards. So it's a Contrary...should fit right in with this list. :O) geozay **Eat Great Lose Weight FASTER! Start the South Beach Diet Online - FREE Profile! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221822996x1201398599/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213623126%3B35100424% 3Bk) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Yes, it is a marvelous slice and a very clear and sharp photo. That's the problem of my tiny micros. I have some small, affordable fragments, but I lose sight of the bigger picture. Now, if I can just smell one for once... Carl Linton wrote: Ooohh, that's lovely!... _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Hello Linton and List, That is a nice photo of Murchison. I have a very nice piece of Murchison ending on ebay next Tuesday evening: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=130301889674 as well a micromounts of Weston, Tagish Lake, Zag, L'Aigle, etc. All have impeccable provenance as listed for each specimen. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: spacerocks...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Ooohh, that's lovely! And on-topic, too. ;^) I'm still trying to find my first Murchison specimen. That would certainly meet my criteria, though I'm afraid it would exceed my modest budget. It's such a treat to look at though. Linton - Original Message - From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA - more enigmatical examples
Good day list members, after the digressions of the last days, how about turning back to meteorites? Stefan made meanwhile some photos of more of these baffling products of the Tamdaght fall. As implausible they might seem to be, they do exist! Here we have some examples, which demonstrate hopefully quite well the different forms of appearances of this strange objects, which contains real fusion crust; preserved fragments of the meteorite with and without crust; a bubbly material looking like an impact-melt and some glassy melt(?). In that piece you can observe without doubt lots of true fusion crust, rounded and ball-shaped as it almost would be a conglomerate incorporating tiny individuals. To the right some of the foamy material and some of that glassy melt: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt1.jpg The other side reveals that the piece is composed of so many tiny fragments, sometimes covered with fusion crust. Sticking or glued together. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt2.jpg Here a even more striking example, for this strange composition, where numerous and crustless sharp meteorite fragments adhere to each other: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt4.jpg Well, best meets the word the gentleman, who initially presented us that material, the appearance, when he described it as couscous. Back, with some crust and that vesicular material with the large bubbles, which we know in the field of meteorites only from impact melts: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt5.jpg There a somewhat coarser part of the conglomerate. With light-coloured fragments of the meteorite... http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt3.jpg Last example: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt6.jpg http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt7.jpg These coglomerates btw. are not very friable or crumbly, hence not simply condensed fragments, glueing together through the mechanical pressure of an impact with normal fall velocities. (Nor any humidity was involved, hence no dried dirt is the gluing agent). Amazing, isn't it? And there the problem starts, we have these samples, but how to explain the formation? Tamdaght, after all we know so far, was a normal meteorite fall. The pieces retrieved, fragments and entire individuals, show no exceptional features, especially regarding fusion crust, which would indicate any uncommon event. Nothing points to a different course of the event, as we know from the other stone falls. Hence it was no hypervelocity impact, fragmentations in air must have happened within the usual parameters, the stones felt with normal resulting, terrestrial velocities. Neither any signs of an impact with still partially cosmic speed at the impact site are found. Such a fall shall not create any melts, glasses or shock effect while impact. And though, there are these strange samples. I personally am an adherer of cold falls. I don't believe in stones being remarkably hot hitting the ground, especially not so hot, that they could melt or fuse from their temperatures of their surfaces the medium they hit. Well, Nels' idea, that ablated material was following the backside of a meteorid, quasi in a vacuum tunnel, I can't imagine. (having said, that I'm no expert...) ... would suppose, that the speed the meteorid owns in that phase of flight, where its surface isn't directly ablated anylonger but melting wouldn't be fast enough to create a vacuum-like slip stream? But especially not, after the meteorid has fully lost its initial speed and it passes into normal fall velocity, travelling still several miles in the cold Sea of air, before it hits the ground with the speed of a racing car. Hence hot, the material couldn't have arrived, - rewelded from the effluent melt in flight - that can't explain, why there are so many intact meteorite fragments preserved in these specimens. Perhaps Stefan's idea could carry on the discussion? He points to his observation, that on the backside of oriented individuals, sometimes small fragments accumulate, like on the back of this Bassikonou from his collection: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/bassi-orin.jpg But the problem with the impact-melt looking material inbetween the fragments remains, as extremely high pressures are necessary to create impact melts. If one has to work with in-air-collisions. Fact is, that material is absolutely unique. We're not aware, whether similar material was found with other stone falls and might it remain inexplicable for a longer while, we think, it is well worth a profound research. Best Regards, Martin Altmann Stefan Ralew Chladni's Heirs Munich - Berlin Fine Meteorites for Science Collectors http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Hi Linton, you could check out my web site. There are still a few nice fragments of Murchison left on www.meteorites.de/sale or go directly to the sale page: http://www.meteorites.homepage.t-online.de/sale.htm Dieter - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: spacerocks...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Ooohh, that's lovely! And on-topic, too. ;^) I'm still trying to find my first Murchison specimen. That would certainly meet my criteria, though I'm afraid it would exceed my modest budget. It's such a treat to look at though. Linton - Original Message - From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA - more enigmatical examples
Martin and list, Well, Nel's idea, that ablated material was following the backside of a meteorid, quasi in a vacuum tunnel, I can't imagine. I am certainly no expert either but, this point Nel makes brings to mind a theory about the Carancas fall that sounds similar. During the time of the Carancas fall someone posted ( I believe it may have been Jan) that they had a fully crusted example. Well, I have three more such examples. Apparently these too are very rare. It was suggested to me by a Russian Scientist ( I lost her name for the moment) that this may suggest that these (now four) individual falls did fall in a sort of swarm and not as a single meteorite after all. She suggested just as Nel does now that these road piggy back with the big one in a vaccum. To her this was the only way to explain it given that they also ended up landing in the same general area as the bigger one that exploded on impact. You would think smaller ones don't travel as far. On the other theory, as I recall extreme heat upon impact was never totally ruled out either with Carancas. As the water in well did boil for reasons yet unproven beyond doubt. In sum, I would like to thank you Martin and Aziz as well for not rejecting this material as many others would have. And for the great pics. This is very cool stuff. My two cents. Carl Esparza IMCA 5829 Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Good day list members, after the digressions of the last days, how about turning back to meteorites? Stefan made meanwhile some photos of more of these baffling products of the Tamdaght fall. As implausible they might seem to be, they do exist! Here we have some examples, which demonstrate hopefully quite well the different forms of appearances of this strange objects, which contains real fusion crust; preserved fragments of the meteorite with and without crust; a bubbly material looking like an impact-melt and some glassy melt(?). In that piece you can observe without doubt lots of true fusion crust, rounded and ball-shaped as it almost would be a conglomerate incorporating tiny individuals. To the right some of the foamy material and some of that glassy melt: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt1.jpg The other side reveals that the piece is composed of so many tiny fragments, sometimes covered with fusion crust. Sticking or glued together. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt2.jpg Here a even more striking example, for this strange composition, where numerous and crustless sharp meteorite fragments adhere to each other: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt4.jpg Well, best meets the word the gentleman, who initially presented us that material, the appearance, when he described it as couscous. Back, with some crust and that vesicular material with the large bubbles, which we know in the field of meteorites only from impact melts: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt5.jpg There a somewhat coarser part of the conglomerate. With light-coloured fragments of the meteorite... http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt3.jpg Last example: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt6.jpg http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/tamdaght-melt7.jpg These coglomerates btw. are not very friable or crumbly, hence not simply condensed fragments, glueing together through the mechanical pressure of an impact with normal fall velocities. (Nor any humidity was involved, hence no dried dirt is the gluing agent). Amazing, isn't it? And there the problem starts, we have these samples, but how to explain the formation? Tamdaght, after all we know so far, was a normal meteorite fall. The pieces retrieved, fragments and entire individuals, show no exceptional features, especially regarding fusion crust, which would indicate any uncommon event. Nothing points to a different course of the event, as we know from the other stone falls. Hence it was no hypervelocity impact, fragmentations in air must have happened within the usual parameters, the stones felt with normal resulting, terrestrial velocities. Neither any signs of an impact with still partially cosmic speed at the impact site are found. Such a fall shall not create any melts, glasses or shock effect while impact. And though, there are these strange samples. I personally am an adherer of cold falls. I don't believe in stones being remarkably hot hitting the ground, especially not so hot, that they could melt or fuse from their temperatures of their surfaces the medium they hit. Well, Nels' idea, that ablated material was following the backside of a meteorid, quasi in a vacuum tunnel, I can't imagine. (having said, that I'm no expert...) ... would suppose, that the speed the meteorid owns in that phase of flight, where its surface isn't directly ablated anylonger but melting wouldn't be fast enough to create a
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Thank you, Arlene! You're very kind. And helpful. They have another nice 5.15g piece, but also a 1.14g fragment that I have inquired into. I must say though, your photography is better than theirs! :^) I like to see what I'm getting when I pay that much per gram. Linton - Original Message - From: Arlene Schlazer pieb...@cox.net To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Hello Linton, This may be one of the smaller pieces in my collection but truly has an amazing story to tellfossilized bacteria, many of the building blocks to life, etcquite fascinating. Here's the link to where I found the MurchisonThere is still a smaller fragment available if you'd liketake a look: http://www.meteorlab.com/METEORLAB2001dev/offering21o.htm Best regards, Arlene Schlazer - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: spacerocks...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Ooohh, that's lovely! And on-topic, too. ;^) I'm still trying to find my first Murchison specimen. That would certainly meet my criteria, though I'm afraid it would exceed my modest budget. It's such a treat to look at though. Linton - Original Message - From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ __ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA - more enigmatical examples
Certainly bizarre. Have you ruled out natural asphalt aka pitch? In pure form under desert sun it would be near liquid and when cold it shows a glass-like fracture. For it to be terrestrially formed as a conglomerate it seems certainly to have been reworked and consolidated from an original strown field. Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites For Sale Photo Request
Hi all, I unfortunately wasted my ad for the week yesterday by making a silly mistake. There were two very nice lots I did not include photos links for that I should have linked to. Instead of just posting my ad again I'll ask that those who wish to see those missing photos contact me OFF-LIST to receive an email with the list of items in yesterday's sale. I'll send them to you complete with ALL the photo links this time. For the trouble of this extra email take 5% OFF of the marked prices. Contact me immediately as I may be heading to the field and won't be able to answer emails in the middle of the desert. For the fastest response please call: 904-236-5394 ;) Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Thank you, Walter. I already had that one in my watch list. :^) Linton - Original Message - From: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Hello Linton and List, That is a nice photo of Murchison. I have a very nice piece of Murchison ending on ebay next Tuesday evening: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=130301889674 as well a micromounts of Weston, Tagish Lake, Zag, L'Aigle, etc. All have impeccable provenance as listed for each specimen. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: spacerocks...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Ooohh, that's lovely! And on-topic, too. ;^) I'm still trying to find my first Murchison specimen. That would certainly meet my criteria, though I'm afraid it would exceed my modest budget. It's such a treat to look at though. Linton - Original Message - From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Thank you. Dieter. You're 1.17g piece looks interesting. Please contact me off-list with pricing in USD. Linton - Original Message - From: Dieter Heinlein dieter-heinl...@t-online.de To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Hi Linton, you could check out my web site. There are still a few nice fragments of Murchison left on www.meteorites.de/sale or go directly to the sale page: http://www.meteorites.homepage.t-online.de/sale.htm Dieter - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: spacerocks...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2,2009 Ooohh, that's lovely! And on-topic, too. ;^) I'm still trying to find my first Murchison specimen. That would certainly meet my criteria, though I'm afraid it would exceed my modest budget. It's such a treat to look at though. Linton - Original Message - From: spacerocks...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TEST - Please disregard
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[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions / Twannberg / TS
Hello All, I have a few auctions ending in about one day: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9 Cheers, Peter BTW1: I have a 0.46g full slice of the TWANNBERG V mass (TKW: 14.1g) for sale. Twannberg (Switzerland) is a IIG iron. I will add a copy of the analysis by the Nat. Hist. Museum in Bern. Offers above $ 200.00 are welcome until tomorrow Sunday evening (20:00 GMT). BTW2: I also updated my Thin Section Page: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id12.html Peter Marmet Bern, Switzerland IMCA #2747 p.mar...@mysunrise.ch http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ ebay: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Retrograde Asteroid Found
Eric: This sounds like a good candidate for an extinct comet! The big question is, why it has not been seen before. I am not a dynamicist, so I do not know if a close encounter by an asteroid to, say the Earth, could put a normal asteroid into a retrograde orbit. Larry A new asteroid was found April 29th orbiting the sun backwards. Calculating the orbit of the new asteroid is difficult because observational errors could cause a mis-projected orbit. This asteroid was close enough Observational Data: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K09/K09J04.html Article: Nearby asteroid found orbiting sun backwards 23:50 01 May 2009 by Jeff Hecht For similar stories, visit the Solar System and Comets and Asteroids Topic Guides The discovery of a 2- to 3-kilometre-wide asteroid in an orbit that goes backwards has set astronomers scratching their heads. It comes closer to Earth than any other object in a 'retrograde' orbit, and astronomers think they should have spotted it before. The object, called 2009 HC82, was discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey in Arizona on the morning of 29 April. From observations of its position by five different groups, Sonia Keys of the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center calculated it orbits the sun every 3.39 years on a path that ventures within 3.5 million km of the Earth's orbit. Combined with its size, that makes 2009 HC82 a potentially hazardous asteroid. What's really unusual is that the calculated orbit is inclined 155° to the plane of the Earth's orbit. That means that as it orbits the Sun, it actually travels backwards compared to the planets. It is only the 20th asteroid known in a retrograde orbit, a very rare group. None of the others comes as close to the Earth. SOURCE: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17073-nearby-asteroid-found-orbiting-sun-backwards.html -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] black diamonds from Canyon Diablo
For those who are interested, my colleague and I recently worked on the black diamonds from the Canyon Diablo meteorite. The abstract can be downloaded at www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1346.pdf In summary, they are not pure diamond but a combination of diamond, lonsdaleite (hexagonal diamond), and graphite. We also found areas that were neither diamond or lonsdaleite. Laurence --- Laurence A.J. Garvie Collections Manager Center for Meteorite Studies School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University Tempe AZ 85287-1404 USA phone: 480 965 3361 fax: 480 965 8102 email: lgar...@asu.edu Weblinks: School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Nice photo - anyone know where any Murchison can be Purchased??? Please contact off list. Thanks, Michael From: spacerocks...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 07:46:32 EDT To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ **Eat Great Lose Weight FASTER! Start the South Beach Diet Online - FREE Profile! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221822996x1201398599/aol?redir=http: %2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213623126%3B35100424% 3Bk) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] black diamonds from Canyon Diablo
Hi Laurence, Great paper! Thanks for sharing. I had a related observation that I thought you might be able to shed some light on. The EL3 Enstatite NWA 2965 (and a whole lot more names/numbers) has small graphite inclusions. I notice them most in the Blue Phase. I have found that these inclusions fool an electronic diamond tester. Other meteorite graphite does not (At least what I have tried). The grains are to small for me to resolve on my optical microscope, even at a magnification of 1800X. Is this likely just a fluke of the testing (Thermal conductivity), or are there likely to be micro diamonds in the material at a level sufficient to fool the tester? The inclusions are soft and can be easily gouged out with a metal tool. Thanks, Tom Phillips In a message dated 5/2/2009 3:53:06 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, lgar...@cox.net writes: For those who are interested, my colleague and I recently worked on the black diamonds from the Canyon Diablo meteorite. The abstract can be downloaded at www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1346.pdf In summary, they are not pure diamond but a combination of diamond, lonsdaleite (hexagonal diamond), and graphite. We also found areas that were neither diamond or lonsdaleite. Laurence --- Laurence A.J. Garvie Collections Manager Center for Meteorite Studies School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University Tempe AZ 85287-1404 USA phone: 480 965 3361 fax: 480 965 8102 email: lgar...@asu.edu Weblinks: School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Dieter Heinlein has some Murchison. I got my sample from him and I am very happy with it. :) On 5/2/09, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Nice photo - anyone know where any Murchison can be Purchased??? Please contact off list. Thanks, Michael From: spacerocks...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 07:46:32 EDT To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ **Eat Great Lose Weight FASTER! Start the South Beach Diet Online - FREE Profile! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221822996x1201398599/aol?redir=http: %2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213623126%3B35100424% 3Bk) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA - more enigmatical examples
hi all, well explained martin, my English doesn't allow me to explain as much as you do, i think Stefan theories is the same as nelson theories , in fact nelson based his theories on an observation of an oriented stone he has, i think when the stone burn it shattered in 1000's tiny meteorite than they glue together and they are detached from the bigger stone and make a special meteorite, here you can observe the same phenomena but not as much as on tamedaght, on a 600 gr oriented stones .. http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/ thanks aziz habibi habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009
Hi, I used to buy it from Michael Casper. I wonder were his stock of it is now? Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:10 PM To: spacerocks...@aol.com; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 Nice photo - anyone know where any Murchison can be Purchased??? Please contact off list. Thanks, Michael From: spacerocks...@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 07:46:32 EDT To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 2, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html __ **Eat Great Lose Weight FASTER! Start the South Beach Diet Online - FREE Profile! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221822996x1201398599/aol?redir=htt p: %2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213623126%3B35100424% 3Bk) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
