Re: [meteorite-list] 25 years ago in Memphis

2009-05-12 Thread Mr EMan

Maryville, TN  L6 fell on 28 Jan 83
That is the one that got me da fever
Elton

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[meteorite-list] test delete

2009-05-12 Thread Ruben Garcia


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Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v 


  
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[meteorite-list] LPBE shut down Mars magnetic field

2009-05-12 Thread E.P. Grondine

Hi Eric, all - 

Where are we going next?

Not Mars, since its not Earth-like. It has no magnetic field.

Maybe nowhere if an asteroid slams into us...

Based on historical observation, ain't no maybes about it. 

But it isn't asteroids that are the threat now, its comets.

good hunting,
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[meteorite-list] vienna natural history museum

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Flaherty

http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/May09/Meteorites.Vienna.Museum.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] vienna natural history museum

2009-05-12 Thread Meteorites USA

Wow!




Jerry Flaherty wrote:

http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/May09/Meteorites.Vienna.Museum.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] vienna natural history museum

2009-05-12 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Jerry/all,

The Vienna collection is out of this world...went last year and just couldn't 
stop taking photographs..a visit not to be missed.

Graham Ensor, UK

 Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: 
 Wow!
 
 
 
 
 Jerry Flaherty wrote:
  http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/May09/Meteorites.Vienna.Museum.html
 
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[meteorite-list] Anniversaries and birthdays

2009-05-12 Thread mexicodoug

Dear List,

Happy anniversary to the Butsura meteorite (H6), whose anniversary of 
its fall from the heavens on May 12, 1861 is today.


If today is your birthday whether you be in India, Mexico or Germany, 
... happy birthday!


Did anyone notice Svend's site has a writeup on this fall with the 
strewn field illustrated (sixth image down 
http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/meteoriten_vk_hist.htm ), by 
none other than the namesake of Maskelynite, Nevil Story Maskelyne?


As a tidbit that Butsura links to this day ... Nevil Story was the 
grandson of the great English astronomer and aristocrat, the Longitude 
guru Nevil Maskelyne.  That's the guy somewhat responsible for making 
Greenwich the origin of longitude, and a very decorated English 
gentleman indeed.  (If you tire of politics and the way history gets 
officially recorded, truth or not, read the exciting but frustrating 
book, Longitude: The True Story of a Lone Genius Who Solved the 
Greatest Scientific Problem of His Time.  It is about John Harrison, 
who grandpa Maskelyne, enamored by measuring the moon, the astronomer 
he was, and not precision timepieces, reputedly pulled a fast one on 
and denied him the recognition and prize money from the crown he 
deserved for that day's equivalent of the X-Prize which Harrison 
apparently won in a story of brilliance and technical dexterity. Only 
after intervention by the King himself, who threatened to kick some 
aristocratic butts was a pseudorecognition arranged.

Best wishes,
Doug
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Re: [meteorite-list] vienna natural history museum

2009-05-12 Thread Alexander Seidel
Fully agreed - definitely one of the best public meteorite displays on the 
planet in this great old and famous Natural History Museum in central Vienna, 
and if you ever go there to pay a visit to all the rarities and beauties, 
please don´t miss that famous Hraschina iron in a cabinet on a floor a bit 
distant from hall V, one of the absolute highlights!

As far as I know they, as many or even most of the other big European museums, 
have big financial troubles to maintain their collection(s), let alone of 
advancing them by new aquisitions, but they try by sort of means of public 
endeavours, and that should hopefully work in the end...

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:07:47 +0100
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 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Jerry Flaherty g...@verizon.net, 
 Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
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 Hi Jerry/all,
 
 The Vienna collection is out of this world...went last year and just
 couldn't stop taking photographs..a visit not to be missed.
 
 Graham Ensor, UK
 
  Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: 
  Wow!
  
  
  
  
  Jerry Flaherty wrote:
   http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/May09/Meteorites.Vienna.Museum.html
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Supergiant Asteroid Impact

2009-05-12 Thread Greg Hupe
Here is a great video submitted to the List in March by Bill Hall that may 
answer your question...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zvCUmeoHpw

Best regards,
Greg


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Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Supergiant Asteroid Impact



Increased discovery of NEOs (NEA) over time...

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/stats/

This poses yet another not so obvious question. Can Moore's law (or 
something similar) predict the rate of discovery based on the 
technological advancement of the human species as a whole?  Don't forget 
to calculate population growth as well...


World  USA Population clock: http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

We are advancing as a species faster than ever before in the history of 
human kind. 100 years ago it took months to travel across the world, and 
we did not have TV, cell phones,and of course the internet. Today we can 
travel to any place on the planet in less than 12 hours and access 
information with the click of a mouse. We can talk to another human on the 
opposite side of the world with little effort and see what's happening 
LIVE in every continent via satellite communication.


As for exploration, before the next decade is out we might even put a 
human being on Mars, and who knows what other scientific discoveries will 
be made after that. We're living in a very exciting time. We're in the 
midst of a superfast evolutionary change as a species.


Where are we going next?

Maybe nowhere if an asteroid slams into us...





Meteorites USA wrote:


Article about a supergiant asteroid shutting down Mars's magnetic field.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090511-mars-asteroid.html

This raises the question that seems to be getting bigger and bigger. What 
would such an impact do to Earth? Would we be wiped out by the impact, 
severe weather, nuclear winter, earthquakes, tsunamis or by the 
atmosphere withering away by the solar winds? Or would humans be able to 
survive underground in manufactured ecosystems capable of supporting 
life?


What if a supergiant asteroid slammed our planet tomorrow? Who would be 
sequestered away deep in the safe rooms underground?


The question is not whether we are prepared -as we are not- the question 
is simply when will we find a solution to this obvious hazard. We're 
finding more asteroids all the time. It's becoming more mainstream, and 
public awareness is growing. Eventually we will find one that is on a 
collision course with Earth.


When taking into account the increased awareness, advances in technology, 
and population increasing over time, I would predict a major discovery in 
less than 5 years. Now, this is not to say that an asteroid will hit in 5 
years, but at the rate of the increase of awareness the likelihood that 
an amateur astronomer or asteroid hunter will find something increases 
exponentially over time. Not to mention NASA's NEO Project and other 
governmental and educational asteroid hunting programs.


We've all heard the phrase It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of 
when. when describing the likelihood of an asteroid impacting Earth. 
Well I would say you have to believe that this increase in knowledge and 
discovery is directly related to the increase in technological 
advancement coupled with a population increase. As we are able to see 
more we will learn more faster.





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[meteorite-list] ID help Please

2009-05-12 Thread cdtucson
List,
Can anyone help me identify the age and origin of this meteorite Iron Axe. 
Weighs 3.5 pounds. and is over 6 inches long. 
Thank you. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030...@n07/?saved=1

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Re: [meteorite-list] Supergiant Asteroid Impact

2009-05-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi, Super-Impactors,

   A 2000-mile crater is No Big Whoop. It requires
only a 375-to-400 kilometer asteroid if it's a dense
rocky body and a 240-kilometer asteroid if an iron
(but an iron that size is unlikely).

   The little bitty Moon has a 2000-mile crater (we
call'em basins because anything that big floods
with lava afterwards). Scaling for target size and
gravitational focusing effects, the Earth should have
(or should have had) EIGHTEEN 2000-mile craters.

   To make one, it takes a 400-kilometer asteroid
on a gentle 20 km/s impact. But if it was a 28 km/s
impact, it would only need to be a 250-kilometer
asteroid. And if it was a long-period comet at right
angles and top speed, it wouldn't have to be any
bigger than the dozen or so biggest comets of the
last two centuries.

The depth of the initial crater would be 275 miles!
It soon collapses and fills with molten planet, leaving
a two-mile deep basin 2000 miles across. The safe
place to be is exactly halfway around the planet,
of course. Even there, you will be rained on by rock
vapor as it condenses. The pressure peak of the shock
wave will be about 225 pounds per sq. in. or 15 times
normal pressure. The wind of the shock wave will be
about 2200 mph, Mach Three... halfway around the
planet.

   The hydrothermal vent bacteria will be just fine,
though, unless it lands on them.

   If you're interested in Really Big impacts, I suggest
a book called Comets and the Origin and Evolution
if Life, which contains a paper by Zahnle and Sleep
on larger impacts. They model one big enough to boil
the oceans away, one big enough to melt the entire
mantle, one big enough to give the Earth a long-term
atmosphere of rock vapor.

   Almost every trace of such impacts, from initial
accretion through the Late Bombardment, are gone.
It's amazing what Mother Earth can do with her
tectonic make-up. The odds of such an impact now
(meaning in the last half-billion years) are small...
but not impossible by any means.


Sterling K. Webb

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On Mon, 11 May 2009 13:01:28 -0700, you wrote:


This raises the question that seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
What would such an impact do to Earth?


An impact big enough to make a 2,000 mile crater?  Think the oceans 
boiled away
to their floors, everything bigger than a hydrothermal vent bacterium 
killed

instantly, and maybe them, too.
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[meteorite-list] NPR Report

2009-05-12 Thread Whitney Riner
Hello List,

  An NPR segment today on the upcoming meteorite auction, etc.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104065594

Best,

Whitney

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Re: [meteorite-list] ID help Please

2009-05-12 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Carl,

Are you sure it's not a prehistoric golf club ;-)

How do you know its prehistoric and meteoric iron? Just interested in its 
origin and tests done.

Graham

 cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: 
 List,
 Can anyone help me identify the age and origin of this meteorite Iron Axe. 
 Weighs 3.5 pounds. and is over 6 inches long. 
 Thank you. 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030...@n07/?saved=1
 
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[meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID

2009-05-12 Thread cdtucson
List, 
Please forgive me. I had some old photos I forgot to delete. What I am looking 
for is the correct age and culture of this antique Axe  made of meteorite iron. 
Thanks Carl

 List,
 Can anyone help me identify the age and origin of this meteorite Iron Axe. 
 Weighs 3.5 pounds. and is over 6 inches long. 
 Thank you. 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030...@n07/?saved=1
 
 Carl Esparza
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Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID

2009-05-12 Thread GeoZay

 I had some old photos I forgot to  delete. What I am looking for is the 
correct age and culture of this antique  Axe  made of meteorite iron. Thanks 
Carl

Where's it  from...or is that what you're trying to find out? Two years 
ago, my brother and  I were dredging for gold in the North fork yuba river when 
we found an old pick  axe head...Later found out it was from the early 
forty-niner era. :O)
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Iron Meteorite Axe ID

2009-05-12 Thread Thomas Webb



--
 
 
  
  
 
 
  
 Carl,
 You might want to sand and
 polish the cut end and 
 then have someone try etching it with nitric acid or ferric
 chloride.  
 Don't do it yourself unless you know the procedure as
 the chemicals are pretty 
 corrosive to skin as well.  Then if you get some
 Widmanstatten figures it 
 can be narrowed down some more.  If not, maybe
 it's not 
 meteoritic.
 Age and culture could best
 be determined by an 
 adept archaeologist.
 Thomas
 
 


  
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