[meteorite-list] Wanted - Willamette Meteorite specimen

2011-06-12 Thread Shawn Alan
Davio and Listers


Davio I think you can own a piece of history .

WILLAMETTE - AN EXTREMELY NOTEWORTHY OFFERING, THE CROWN SECTION OF THE MOST 
FAMOUS METEORITE IN THE WORLD. ... 


http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6061lotNo=49053


But good luck trying to find any Willamette besides what is being auctioned off 
and if you do find any, which I doubt you will, expect to pay in the thousands 
of $ for a gram or less. From my understanding there are one or two 
private collects that have some small pieces of this magnificent iron 
meteorite. But again who knows but I think its safe to safe this will be a very 
hard iron to obtain from the history it presents and events presented around 
the meteorite.

 
Thank you 
Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
eBaystore 
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html 



[meteorite-list] Wanted - Willamette Meteorite specimen
Davio L. Ribeca davior at comcast.net 
Fri Jun 10 15:04:38 EDT 2011 

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Hi Lister, 
I'm looking for a representative specimen of the Willamette meteorite. Not a 
micro-mount. Please contact me if you have one for sale. Thank you in 
advance. You guys are the best! 

Davio R. 
IMCA member 4050 





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[meteorite-list] AD - eBay last few hours

2011-06-12 Thread dave

Hi tout le monde,
Last few hours
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Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted - Willamette Meteorite specimen

2011-06-12 Thread Davio L. Ribeca

Hi Elton,
I saw the Auction yesterday. Yinan W. and Shawn A. sent me the link below. 
However, I was

thinking of something a little less expensive. Although ~$64 per gram isn't
too bad. The problem is I would have to buy all 13,998 grams. Technically,
this is a great deal.

http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6061lotNo=49053

Photos - Met-Bull Willamette specimen owners:

Gerald Armstrong
Jay Piatek
MeteoriteCollector.org - AMNH
MeteoriteCollector.org - FCOM
MeteoriteCollector.org - NHMV
Michael S. Scherman
Peter Marmet
RobertZ

Ciao,
Davio R.
IMCA Member 4050

Captain Davio L. Ribeca U.S.C.G.
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Don't we all. don't we all.  A single piece is in private hands
and it isn't likely to surface again for a while, I fear.

Good Luck.
Elton

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Davio L. Ribeca dav...@comcast.net 
wrote:


Hi Lister,
I'm looking for a representative specimen of the Willamette meteorite. 
Not a

micro-mount. Please contact me if you have one for sale. Thank you in
advance. You guys are the best!

Davio R.
IMCA member 4050 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted - Willamette Meteorite specimen

2011-06-12 Thread Michael Murray
I wonder why they used the words CROWN SECTION to advertise this  
piece.  Looks to have been cut off from the bell edge.  I haven't seen  
the bell edge of the trailing side of the meteorite referred to as a  
crown section.

Mike in CO

On Jun 12, 2011, at 3:48 AM, Shawn Alan wrote:


Davio and Listers


Davio I think you can own a piece of history .

WILLAMETTE - AN EXTREMELY NOTEWORTHY OFFERING, THE CROWN SECTION OF  
THE MOST FAMOUS METEORITE IN THE WORLD. ...



http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6061lotNo=49053


But good luck trying to find any Willamette besides what is being  
auctioned off and if you do find any, which I doubt you will, expect  
to pay in the thousands of $ for a gram or less. From my  
understanding there are one or two private collects that have some  
small pieces of this magnificent iron meteorite. But again who knows  
but I think its safe to safe this will be a very hard iron to obtain  
from the history it presents and events presented around the  
meteorite.



Thank you
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
eBaystore
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html



[meteorite-list] Wanted - Willamette Meteorite specimen
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Hi Lister,
I'm looking for a representative specimen of the Willamette  
meteorite. Not a

micro-mount. Please contact me if you have one for sale. Thank you in
advance. You guys are the best!

Davio R.
IMCA member 4050





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Re: [meteorite-list] Gunlock meteorite trip , New meteorite find for 2011

2011-06-12 Thread U.S. Airborne


Looks like a fun adventure Sonny. Nice photos, glade you made it home with 1 
nice find.


Scott Johnson
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2011



Hi List,

Here are a couple of photos from my Gunlock meteorite hunting trip. From 
the mapping program and google earth it looked like a simple trip. The 
trip was anything but simple. With a Big Gulp in hand I started down the 
graded road to the second fork to the North. The road turned into an ATV 
trail and the planned route was washed out. My map showed three separate 
trails leading to to the meteorite find location. To make a long story 
short 6 hours later I arrived at my destination which I thought would only 
a couple of hours at the most. I would recommend a four wheel drive 
vehicle or ATV. The majority of the trail was four wheel drive only and 
the slightest amount of rain could make the trail impassable. Due to the 
location and condition of the road I could only spend a few hours hunting. 
I will have to return when I can spend more time.


http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.htm



The trip was not a waste I did make a new meteorite find at a different 
location.


Sonny


http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/ORDINARY_CHONDRITES.html


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[meteorite-list] SOLTMANY hammer fall - Main Mass movie

2011-06-12 Thread Marcin Cimala

Hi
I just uploaded movie about my specimen of polish hammer Soltmany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJUh3sU5sG0

Have fun.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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[meteorite-list] Slate Islands Impact Structure

2011-06-12 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
I hadn't heard about this Lake Superior crater. Interesting that the islands 
are the central uplift formation of the crater.

Click the link for the rest of the pdf with maps and pics.

Phil Whitmer



http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19970028016_1997050774.pdf


14. New Observations at the Slate Islands Impact ,

Structure, Lake Superior

B.O. Dressier 1, V.L. Sharpton 1, B. Schnieders 2 and J. Scott 2

1 Lunar and Planetary Institute, 3600 Bay Area Boulevard, Houston, Texas, 
77058


2 Northwestern Ontario Field Services Section, Ontario Geological Survey, 
Thunder Bay


INTRODUCTION

Slate Islands, a group of 2 large and several small

islands, is located in northern Lake Superior, approximately

I0 km south of Terrace Bay. Shatter cones,

breccias and shock metamorphic features provide evidence

that the Slate Islands Structure was formed as a

result of asteroid or comet impact (Halls and Grieve

1976, Grieve and Robertson 1976). Most of the island

group is believed to represent the central uplift of a

complex impact crater. The structure possibly has a

diameter of about 32 km. For Sage ( 1978, ! 991) shock

metamorphic features, shatter cones and pervasive

rock brecciation are the results of diatreme activity.

The present investigations represent the second

year of a co-operative study of the Lunar and Planetary

Institute, Houston, Texas and the Field Services Section

(Northwest) of the Ontario Geological Survey.

The objective of this investigation is to come to a better

understanding of the formation of mid-size impact

structures on Earth and the planets of the solar system.

Impact processes played a fundamental role in the

formation of the planets and the evolution of life on

Earth. Meteorite and comet impacts are not a phenomenon

of the past. Last year, more than 20 pieces of the

Shoemaker-Levy 9 impacted on Jupiter and the

Tunguska comet impacted in Siberia in the early years

of this century. The study of impact processes is a

relatively young part of geoscience and much is still to

be learnt by detailed field and laboratory investigations.

The Slate Islands Structure has been selected for

the present detailed investigations because of the excellent

shoreline outcrops of rock units related to the

impact. The structure is a complex impact crater that

has been eroded so that important lithoiogical and

structural elements are exposed. We know of no other

mid-size terrestrial impact structure with equal or better

exposures.

In this publication we present preliminary results

of our 1994 and 1995 field and laboratory investigations.

We have tentatively identified a few impact melt

and a considerable number of suevite occurrences.

Bunte Breccia and suevite (for definitions see

Ontario Geological

Engelhardt 1990 and references therein) and other

clastic matrix breccias occur on the islands. (For names

of specific locations mentioned in this publication

please see Figure 14.1 .)

GENERAL GEOLOGY

OF SLATE ISLANDS

A wide variety of Archean and Proterozoic rocks

underlie the islands. Archean rocks make up the bulk of

the Slate Islands bedrock (Sage 1991). They are composed

of greenschist facies, felsic to mafic pyroclastic

rocks, pillowed and variolitic mafic flows, feldspar

porphyry flows interbedded with mudstones, siltstones

and ironstones. Archean gabbros and quartz-feldspar

porphyries intrude the supracrustal rocks (Sage 1991 ).

Laminated argillite and chert-carbonate-hematite

ironstone of the Gunflint Formation and argillite of the

Rove Formation, both of the Animikie Group, as well

as, mafic metavolcanic rocks, intraflow sandstone and

siltstone, and diabase dikes of the Osier Group,

Keweenawan Supergroup, occur on the islands but

spatially are of limited extent (Sage 1991).

Lamprophyres occur on the islands and one dike at the

southeast coast of Patterson Island has been dated by

the U-Pb method on perovskite at about !.1 Ga (oral

communication L.Heaman, University of Alberta,

Edmonton, Alberta, 1994). This dike is cut by breccias

(R.Sage, Ontario Geological Survey, Sudbury, oral

communication 1994) believed to be related to the

Slate Islands impact event. This date provides a maximum

radiometrie age for the impact. However, we

have observed breccias on the islands containing

sandstone and siltstone clasts that strongly resemble

units of the Jacobsville Formation, suggesting a maximum

age of about 800 ma, based on assignment of the

Jaeobsville Formation as Hadrynian (Card et al. 1994).

We did not attempt to reinterpret the distribution of

the various Archean and Proterozoic rock units that

underlie the island group. It is, however, worth noting

that all rocks on the islands are brecciated to various

degrees. Large rock masses on Mortimer and Delaute

islands are monomict breccias and we have observed

granitic rocks and diabase on Patterson Island that

easily break into centimetre-sized angular fragments


[meteorite-list] Slate Islands Impact Structure

2011-06-12 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

One of the world's biggest shattercones at Slate Island:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckexpeditions/2957527136/

Phil Whitmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Slate Islands Impact Structure

2011-06-12 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Phil and List,

This is a general observation about impact structures, and not so much
about Slate Islands - please forgive the topic drift.

I am always impressed with the people finding new craters using
widely-available resources like Google Earth.  In my amateur zeal, I
tried looking over the land in a several mile radius around my home in
south central Florida.  To my stunned eyes, there were craters every
where I looked.  Florida looked like the Moon in some spots.  My
excitement only lasted about a nanosecond because each time I could
identify the feature as something more mundane - sinkhole, cattle
pond, retention pond, subsidence depression, etc.  Florida is littered
with sinkholes and not all are filled with water.

So, what impresses me when people find these new impact structures is
this - how the heck can one distinguish an impact crater from a
satellite photo?  Is there a quick and dirty list of criteria to look
for?  I'm not a geologist, nor do I have any formal training, but I do
have a PC and an armchair.  ;)

Best regards,

MikeG

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I know Florida is a bad place to look, but it's good training course
to identify all of the circular and ellipsoid things that are not a
crater.
On 6/12/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 I hadn't heard about this Lake Superior crater. Interesting that the islands
 are the central uplift formation of the crater.
 Click the link for the rest of the pdf with maps and pics.

 Phil Whitmer



 http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19970028016_1997050774.pdf


 14. New Observations at the Slate Islands Impact ,

 Structure, Lake Superior

 B.O. Dressier 1, V.L. Sharpton 1, B. Schnieders 2 and J. Scott 2

 1 Lunar and Planetary Institute, 3600 Bay Area Boulevard, Houston, Texas,
 77058

 2 Northwestern Ontario Field Services Section, Ontario Geological Survey,
 Thunder Bay

 INTRODUCTION

 Slate Islands, a group of 2 large and several small

 islands, is located in northern Lake Superior, approximately

 I0 km south of Terrace Bay. Shatter cones,

 breccias and shock metamorphic features provide evidence

 that the Slate Islands Structure was formed as a

 result of asteroid or comet impact (Halls and Grieve

 1976, Grieve and Robertson 1976). Most of the island

 group is believed to represent the central uplift of a

 complex impact crater. The structure possibly has a

 diameter of about 32 km. For Sage ( 1978, ! 991) shock

 metamorphic features, shatter cones and pervasive

 rock brecciation are the results of diatreme activity.

 The present investigations represent the second

 year of a co-operative study of the Lunar and Planetary

 Institute, Houston, Texas and the Field Services Section

 (Northwest) of the Ontario Geological Survey.

 The objective of this investigation is to come to a better

 understanding of the formation of mid-size impact

 structures on Earth and the planets of the solar system.

 Impact processes played a fundamental role in the

 formation of the planets and the evolution of life on

 Earth. Meteorite and comet impacts are not a phenomenon

 of the past. Last year, more than 20 pieces of the

 Shoemaker-Levy 9 impacted on Jupiter and the

 Tunguska comet impacted in Siberia in the early years

 of this century. The study of impact processes is a

 relatively young part of geoscience and much is still to

 be learnt by detailed field and laboratory investigations.

 The Slate Islands Structure has been selected for

 the present detailed investigations because of the excellent

 shoreline outcrops of rock units related to the

 impact. The structure is a complex impact crater that

 has been eroded so that important lithoiogical and

 structural elements are exposed. We know of no other

 mid-size terrestrial impact structure with equal or better

 exposures.

 In this publication we present preliminary results

 of our 1994 and 1995 field and laboratory investigations.

 We have tentatively identified a few impact melt

 and a considerable number of suevite occurrences.

 Bunte Breccia and suevite (for definitions see

 Ontario Geological

 Engelhardt 1990 and references therein) and other

 clastic matrix breccias occur on the islands. (For names

 of specific locations mentioned in this publication

 please see Figure 14.1 .)

 GENERAL GEOLOGY

 OF SLATE ISLANDS

 A wide variety of Archean and Proterozoic rocks

 underlie the islands. Archean rocks make up the bulk of

 the Slate Islands bedrock (Sage 1991). They 

[meteorite-list] Why Mars Is a Planetary Runt

2011-06-12 Thread Paul H.
Why Mars Is a Planetary Runt by Richard A Kerr
SceinceNow, May 25, 2011
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/05/how-to-make-a-runt-of-the-solar.html

Small mass of Mars could be due to planetary orbital 
migration, PhysOrg, June 6, 2011
http://www.physorg.com/wire-news/68812270/small-mass-of-mars-could-be-due-to-planetary-orbital-migration.html
http://www.swri.org/9what/releases/2011/GrandTackScenario.htm

Why is Mars so tiny? Blame wandering Jupiter
New study seems to solve a difficult problem in 
solar system's formation, MSNBC, June 7, 2011
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43311640/ns/technology_and_science-space/

The paper is:

Walsh, K. J., A. Morbidelli, S. N. Raymond, D. P. 
O'Brien, and A. M. Mandell, 2011, A low mass for 
Mars from Jupiter’s early gas-driven migration.
Nature. Published online 05 June 2011
doi:10.1038/nature10201
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10201.html

PDF file at,
http://www.ice.csic.es/files/upload_files/File/nature10201_mars_jupiter_migration.pdf
http://www.ice.cat/es/view_new.php?NID=113

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Willamette

2011-06-12 Thread Davio L. Ribeca


Hey Mike,
I saw the Auction yesterday. Yinan W. and Shawn A. sent me the link below.
However, I was thinking of something a little less expensive. Although ~$64
per gram isn't too bad. The problem is I would have to buy all 13,998 grams. 
Technically,

this is a great deal.

http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6061lotNo=49053

Photos - Met-Bull Willamette specimen owners:

Gerald Armstrong
Jay Piatek
MeteoriteCollector.org - AMNH
MeteoriteCollector.org - FCOM
MeteoriteCollector.org - NHMV
Michael S. Scherman
Peter Marmet
RobertZ

Ciao,
Davio R.
IMCA Member 4050


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Re: [meteorite-list] Why Mars Is a Planetary Runt

2011-06-12 Thread Kelly Beatty
Paul...

thanks for that posting and the links. Walsh et al's scenario is both
tantalizing and provocative - it's amazing to think how the solar system's
architecture might have been shaped top to bottom by big-bully Jupiter. (FWIW,
I wrote all this up for ST last October: http://is.gd/CDdez4)

but it's not the only explanation being kicked around by planetary scientists
for a runty Red Planet: http://is.gd/qbtGAI


clear skies,
Kelly


J. Kelly Beatty
Senior Contributing Editor
SKY  TELESCOPE
617-416-9991
SkyandTelescope.com

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[meteorite-list] GUNLOCK

2011-06-12 Thread Paul Gessler

Sonny, way to go.
Is the new find from Utah or Nevada?

Paul Gessler

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[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER

2011-06-12 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,

I am hoping everyone is enjoying the afternoon and would like to post the 
answer from the POP QUIZ.

Quetion

Please tell me the name of the first meteorite that was etched?

Answer

KRASNOJARSK (1804 by William Thomson)


I would like to congradulate James B being the 10th Lister to send me the 
correct answer. He will be getting a 120mg Saratov meteorite fragment that fell 
in 1918 in Russia. And for those of you that would like to read up on the 
Krasnojarsk meteorite, here is an excerpt from Ernst Florens Friedrich Chladni 
(1756–1827) and the origins of modern meteorite research By Ursula B. MARVIN


For the next 130 years, from 1808 to 1939, von
Widmanstätten was credited as the earliest discoverer of the
metallurgical patterns that are named for him in iron
meteorites. The first intimation of a possible rival arose
indirectly in 1939 when Robert T. Gunther (1869–1940), the
Oxford historian and antiquary with a special interest in the
Naples area, examined a mineral collection that contained
numerous fine specimens marked “Dr. T.” Gunther (1939)
had no clue to the identity of Dr. T. until he came upon a
sample of Vesuvian lava that had been worked into a
commemorative medal honoring the French geologist,
Diodato Dolomieu (1750–1801). The back of the medal was
impressed with the name and date: “G. Thomson Anglus
1805.” Seeking further information, Gunther contacted
Professor Alfred Lacroix (1863–1948), at the Muséum
National d’Histoire Naturelle in Paris, who found a letter in
the archives that had been sent in 1801 from Naples in to the
paleontologist, Georges Cuvier (1769–1832), by “G.
Thomson, già Professore di Anatomia à Oxford.”

***

Gunther’s offhand statement of Thomson’s anticipation
of the Widmanstätten figures elicited a letter to Nature from
Max Hey (1905–1984) of the Department of Mineralogy of
the British Museum (Natural History). Hey looked up the
1808 issue of the Atti dell’Accademia delle Scienze di Siena
that contained Thomson’s article on the Krasnojarsk
meteorite, which, he noted, was dated “February 6, 1804.”
Hey remarked that the article is of particular interest to us
because it shows that Thomson studied the action of dilute
nitric acid on the nickel-iron and fully described and pictured
the etch figures, thus anticipating the work of von
Widmanstätten which, was carried out in 1808 and published
first in 1812 (by K. A. Neumann). Although he documented
Thomson’s priority of publication, Hey made no suggestion
that the etch figures should be renamed for him. Here the
matter rested for two more decades.


http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1996MPS...31..545M


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Fri Jun 10 18:11:40 EDT 2011 

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Hello Listers, 
  
I hope everyone is staying cool from the heat and if not your out and about 
hunting for meteorites. As for me, I am stuck in the BIG APPLE and if anyone 
knows of any strewn fields in Central Park, let me know and ill go meteorite 
hunting :) 
  
Till then, I have a POP QUIZ today. 
  
The name of the GAME 
  
Be the 10th Listers to email me off the LIST with the correct answer and you 
will win a free 120mg Saratov fragment from a 1918 meteorite fall in Russia. 
  
QUESTION: 
  
Please tell me the name of the first meteorite that was etched? 

Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Colfax Meteorite

2011-06-12 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day Stuart Ed
I believe The Field Museum has a piece
http://illinoismeteorites.com/217colfax.htm

Cheers John Cabassi
IMCA 2125
-Original Message-
From: imca-boun...@imcamail.de [mailto:imca-boun...@imcamail.de] On
Behalf Of Ed Deckert
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:23 PM
To: Stuart McDaniel; i...@imcamail.de; Meteorite Central
Subject: Re: [IMCA] Colfax Meteorite


Hi Stuart,

Ah, looking for a meteorite that is local to you!  This one is likely
going to be very hard to find as the TKW was only 2.3 Kg for this Iron
meteorite, and it was found in 1880.  I wonder where the main mass is
housed?  The Smithsonian has a 273.44 gram specimen, but I don't know if
any other larger pieces exist.  Perhaps so in a NC museum.

I have been looking to buy NC meteorite specimens as well, and managed
to find a few.  Not an easy task, but they can be found.  You might try
contacting Russ Kempton (New England Meteoritical Services) his website
is:  http://www.meteorlab.com/   I have obtained several NC micros from
Russ, and he may well be able to point you in the right direction if he
does not have anything available.

Ed Deckert
IMCA #8911

- Original Message - 
From: Stuart McDaniel 
To: i...@imcamail.de ; Meteorite Central 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:29 PM
Subject: [IMCA] Colfax Meteorite


Does anyone know where I might obtain a small piece for a reasonable
price? Micro would be fine. 

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=North+Carolinasfor=place
sants=falls=valids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=United
+Statessrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20ta
blecode=5402


Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC 
Secr., 
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
IMCA #9052
Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA



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[meteorite-list] MAG Meeting, July 10th, 2011 (Guest speaker: R. Scott Harris)

2011-06-12 Thread Sean T. Murray

Folks,

The Meteorite Association of Georgia will be holding it's next meeting on 
July 10th (a Sunday) at the Tellus Museum in Cartersville, Georgia.  Our 
guest speaker will be R. Scott Harris. His presentation will be open to all 
Tellus visitors, so please join us if you are in the area.  (Non MAG members 
are welcome to join us for our quarterly meeting at 1:30pm.)


Guest Speaker:

R. Scott Harris, Planetary Geologist, Brown University

Time:
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July 10th, 2011
2:30 pm

Topic:

South America is one of the great frontiers for the discovery of new impact 
craters. Planetary geologist Scott Harris has spent the last decade studying 
the scars of asteroid collisions with our planet from the Pampean plains of 
Argentina to the Altiplano of Peru.
Scott will discuss the implications of this unique impact record, including 
the 2007 Carancas event, for understanding the evolution of our solar system 
and the current threat level to life on Earth.


Sean T. Murray, President
Meteorite Association of Georgia 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits

2011-06-12 Thread Dave Myers
Dear List, and Norm,

WOW!

In this thread the only 2 things that has been said that is counter-productive 
for anyone just getting started in the search for meteorites is,

Norm's   disrespectful comments! (for 1)  This 
is one of those stories with to good to be true overtones. Norm 
I 
have been on the list for 3.5-4 years, I was brought up and raised to be
respectful to other people in this small farming town.You do not know 
anything about me...so why would you make a comment like that!


The second comment by you is compairing the glacier area of ( NE WA.) to that 
of 
OHIO-INDIANA)    WHAT???  That is like compairing the moon to mars ! 


Norm, for the past 35 years out of my 51, I have been a amateur Archaeologist, 
I 
have found over 450 artifacts in 4 counties in south west Ohio, I can Identify 
each and everyone, I have recorded all my finds. I have discovered 20 village 
sites!

And for the past 35 years, I have been an amateur geologist, I can Identify the 
common rock typs that are Igneous, sedimentary and metamorphic.

My favorite rocks to collect are the one of a kind, metamorphic rocks, and 
the 
basalts with  subporphyritic texture.(like what is found in some achondrites)

So if i may, let me tell you all about the morianes in Ohio and Indiana.

On top of of the rocks(morians) is 8-10 inch's. of a sandy soil. (thats is 
where 
after 6 years of searching I found my 1st meteorite 4-9-2011)

There are not that many glacier rocks, But a few, But also since 4-9. I found 2 
fluted clovis points, in the same mix(there 10-14,000 years old). and 40ty 
other 
artifacts in this 8-10' of soil.

Now when I walk the hill side it gets very rocky, the soil now is only 4-6deep 
on the moriane, But guess what in  this rocky area is where I found my 
second banged-up chondrite! (which is different from the 1st!) and my third 
un-fluted paleo point, about 12 feet away!


Now let me tell you a secret I have discovered after walking these rolling 
hills 
(morianes) for 35 years. Less  then 10% of the rocks even in the rocky areas 
are 
brown or black!  What color are  fresh chondrites.Black, what color are 
weathered chondrites, BROWN 


So to  all new meteorites hunters, If you can spot the brown marbles in a bag 
of 
mixed multi-colored marbles, you can find meteorites even in the rocky
hill side of a morianein ohio,indiana, and Illinoise that is.


Now back to what I found, yes I am only guessing about there age, most of my 
UNWA stones are slices, end cuts of have very black fusion crust on them. What 
I 
found looks more weathered, So yes I still may be very wrong to there age. 


Also the glacier ice was 2-5 miles high, the bull-dozer moriane piles are at 
the 
bottom of the ice, How long did it take the ice to build befor its advance
south, 100,150,000,YEARS? how many meteorites were traped in the ice during 
that 
time frame.  ?  So Norm, I was not talking about the meteorites on the ground 
before the glacier came,  But common sense tells me that any meteorites IN THE 
ICE, when the ice melts, WILL BE ON TOP OF THE MORIANE.


NOW FOR THE ID COMMENTS!

20 DEALERS ON HERE SALE, unwa-chondrites, I have got them and other meteorites 
from 4 of you. (they are 100%) gurenteed to be meteorites?

So for what I know about rocks, in my area, and the pictures of what you all 
sold me,  know that they are real meteorites!

Now, after 6 years of searching for meteorites, only after 4-9-2011 Have I 
found 
2 stones that, look like chondrites. There is now doubt that are both 
chondrites. There are NO OTHER ROCKS ON EARTH, THAT LOOK LIKE a L or H 
chondrite!  so they do not have to be ID, but yes they do need to
get classifide.


Wow, I cannot waite to here the comments after I post photos of my 3 possiable 
achondrites I found on the same glacier morian. LOL



Here are photos of the glacier moraine I am hunting, The 1st 4 photos are the 
more rocky hill side, the other photos are the top of the morine that have 
little rocks showing where I found the 1st meteorite


http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.233863486630644.81086.10209843157l=601eb88043












 













 


- Original Message 
From: Norm Lehrman nlehr...@nvbell.net
To: Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:08:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits

All,

I fear this thread may be counter-productive for any that are just getting 
started in the search for meteorites.  The glacier angle is, in this case, thin 
ice.  First, Antarctica is a very special case:  in general glacial moraines 
are 

an absolutely horrible place to look.  I'm with Mike.  If you've got genuine 
meteorites, they probably have nothing at all to do with the moraine deposits.  
Second, I'm also with Anne: the starting place here is to confirm the ID.  This 
is one 

Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits

2011-06-12 Thread mafer
You and that guy from Alberta Canada should collaborate on a video for
moraine searching



Mark Ferguson

On 4:25:27 am 06/13/11 Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List, and Norm,

 WOW!

 In this thread the only 2 things that has been said that is
 counter-productive for anyone just getting started in the search for
 meteorites is,
 Norm's   disrespectful comments! (for 1)  This
 is one of those stories with to good to be true overtones. 

     Norm I
 have been on the list for 3.5-4 years, I was brought up and raised to
 be respectful to other people in this small farming town.You
 do not know anything about me...so why would you make a comment
 like that!

 The second comment by you is compairing the glacier area of ( NE WA.)
 to that of OHIO-INDIANA)    WHAT???  That is like compairing the
 moon to mars !

 Norm, for the past 35 years out of my 51, I have been a amateur
 Archaeologist, I have found over 450 artifacts in 4 counties in south
 west Ohio, I can Identify each and everyone, I have recorded all my
 finds. I have discovered 20 village sites!

 And for the past 35 years, I have been an amateur geologist, I can
 Identify the common rock typs that are Igneous, sedimentary and
 metamorphic.
 My favorite rocks to collect are the one of a kind, metamorphic
 rocks, and the basalts with  subporphyritic texture.(like what is
 found in some achondrites)
 So if i may, let me tell you all about the morianes in Ohio and
 Indiana.
 On top of of the rocks(morians) is 8-10 inch's. of a sandy soil.
 (thats is where after 6 years of searching I found my 1st meteorite
 4-9-2011)
 There are not that many glacier rocks, But a few, But also since 4-9.
 I found 2 fluted clovis points, in the same mix(there 10-14,000 years
 old). and 40ty other artifacts in this 8-10' of soil.

 Now when I walk the hill side it gets very rocky, the soil now is
 only 4-6deep on the moriane, But guess what in  this rocky
 area is where I found my second banged-up chondrite! (which is
 different from the 1st!) and my third un-fluted paleo point, about 12
 feet away!

 Now let me tell you a secret I have discovered after walking these
 rolling hills (morianes) for 35 years. Less  then 10% of the rocks
 even in the rocky areas are brown or black!  What color are  fresh
 chondrites.Black, what color are weathered chondrites,
 BROWN

 So to  all new meteorites hunters, If you can spot the brown marbles
 in a bag of mixed multi-colored marbles, you can find meteorites even
 in the rocky hill side of a morianein ohio,indiana, and
 Illinoise that is.

 Now back to what I found, yes I am only guessing about there age,
 most of my UNWA stones are slices, end cuts of have very black fusion
 crust on them. What I found looks more weathered, So yes I still may
 be very wrong to there age.

 Also the glacier ice was 2-5 miles high, the bull-dozer moriane piles
 are at the bottom of the ice, How long did it take the ice to build
 befor its advance south, 100,150,000,YEARS? how many meteorites were
 traped in the ice during that time frame.  ?  So Norm, I was not
 talking about the meteorites on the ground before the glacier came, 
 But common sense tells me that any meteorites IN THE ICE, when the
 ice melts, WILL BE ON TOP OF THE MORIANE.

 NOW FOR THE ID COMMENTS!

 20 DEALERS ON HERE SALE, unwa-chondrites, I have got them and other
 meteorites from 4 of you. (they are 100%) gurenteed to be meteorites?

 So for what I know about rocks, in my area, and the pictures of what
 you all sold me,  know that they are real meteorites!

 Now, after 6 years of searching for meteorites, only after 4-9-2011
 Have I found 2 stones that, look like chondrites. There is now doubt
 that are both chondrites. There are NO OTHER ROCKS ON EARTH, THAT
 LOOK LIKE a L or H chondrite!  so they do not have to be ID, but yes
 they do need to get classifide.


 Wow, I cannot waite to here the comments after I post photos of my 3
 possiable achondrites I found on the same glacier morian. LOL



 Here are photos of the glacier moraine I am hunting, The 1st 4 photos
 are the more rocky hill side, the other photos are the top of the
 morine that have little rocks showing where I found the 1st meteorite


 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.233863486630644.81086.102
 09843157l=601eb88043












  













  


 - Original Message 
 From: Norm Lehrman nlehr...@nvbell.net
 To: Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecen
 tral.com
 Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:08:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits

 All,

 I fear this thread may be counter-productive for any that are just
 getting started in the search for meteorites.  The glacier angle is,
 in this case, thin ice.  First, Antarctica is a very special case: 
 in general glacial moraines are
 an absolutely horrible place to look.  I'm with 

Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits

2011-06-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:56:17 +0100, you wrote:

You and that guy from Alberta Canada should collaborate on a video for
moraine searching

The guy from Alberta should handle all of the on-screen text
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[meteorite-list] OT: Facebook Meteorite group

2011-06-12 Thread Rob Matson
Hi All,

Apologies for the off-topic post. I'm trying to delete myself from the
Facebook Meteorite group because the number of messages/posts per day
is insane. Of course, navigating through Facebook's pages, I have yet
to find a way to do so. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Rob

P.S.  Given how hard Facebook has made it to leave a group, I will
never join another one.

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