[meteorite-list] Meteorite Challenge were you could win a $3000 prize
Hello Listers I came across this article today about a challenge involving meteorites and visualizing the data collected from these rare stones in a artist format that could win you $3000 in prizes. Check it out at the link below :) Also if your going to enter the contest, be interesting to see if there are some people teaming up or there thoughts on some ways of presenting data in a visual manner. I come from a artist back ground with a BFA in fine art with a concentration in photography, and with in minutes of reading the article and looking at data sets that people had done with other data, I have came up with a great idea for the contest, however, I have no clue on how to execute it because it would involve programing, drafting programs and other stuff, but who knows, be interesting to team up with people on the challenge :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ The source http://www.visualizing.org/contests/visualizing-meteorites Visualizing Meteorites From the 7,000 ton meteorite that fell in Chelyabinsk to the current debate on the “Mercury meteorite”, meteorites have recently made headlines. Russia announced $50 billion in new space spending, and despite cuts, NASA’s recently released budget outlines a plan to tow an asteroid closer to Earth for study. The need to understand more about our solar system is clear, and meteorites (and other objects from space) provide a valuable opportunity to do so. The Meteoritical Society has a massive database of all the recorded meteorites that have collided with Earth dating as far back as 2500 BCE, providing the most comprehensive public picture of known meteorite collisions. Your challenge is to use data and design to visualize meteorites — help us understand more by exploring its type, mass or location. Using the Meteoritical Society’s database, we’ve seen visualizations by The Guardian and Javier de la Torre that map meteorite landings but we’re looking to go beyond that. What else can this data set tell us? What have meteorite collisions looked like over time? Are there any patterns or parts of the world that are more likely to be hit? Was the Chelyabinsk meteorite collision normal or an anomaly? Feel free to use additional data sets that can contribute deeper insight. For this challenge, we’re excited to partner with FreeStructure, a three-day gathering happening this July in San Francisco that will bring together industry professionals and experts to explore ways to maximize data’s potential. As part of the prize, we’re offering the winner one pass andwe’ll also be at FreeStructure for a Visualizing/FreeStructure Marathon. We look forward to meeting you! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Hallo Martin, I said meteorite to him and the answer was "no". I don't want to call attention to myself by asking for a further clarification. My feeling is that he would take offense at my having the impudence (Frechheit) to quote his own laws to him. Alles bestes Guido -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 12:14 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Hi Count, > >maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? > >Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of Cultural and >Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of February 4, 2009 and Law >No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) > >Here it is in English version: >http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359 > >It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind of >object-categories are explicitly named. > >Neither cover the definitions of "cultural property" nor "natural property", >given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)&2) >Meteorites in general, but would need an interpretation by a court. >E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded "unique" (nor being of beauty, >if it's W3, hehe). > >And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, they >could be exported like antiquities in such cases too. > >On the other side, rocks are per se not "o.k." see the definition of "natural >property". > > >Best, >Martin > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Count Deiro >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31 >An: Anne Black; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Dear Anne, > >In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of >the article. > >I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in Los >Angeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for >Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey >is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process. > >So "rocks" ok...other things not. > >Cordially, > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > >-Original Message- >>From: Anne Black >>Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM >>To: countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >>Sorry, but this does not add up. >>I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. I >>have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some blue >>serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all bringing >>them back. >>I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never >>pick up anything there. >> >>I wonder what his "stones" look like! >> >> >>Anne M. Black >>www.IMPACTIKA.com >>impact...@aol.com >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Count Deiro >>To: meteorite-list >>Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >> >>Hello Listees, >> >>Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a >>tourist! >> >> >>http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-f >>or-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq >> >>"It will never be he same." >> >>Count Deiro >>IMCA 3536 MetSoc >>__ >> >>Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
Yes, junk, magnifying glasses, acrylic boxes, Omani money (but getting it at the exact exchange rate in middle America is probably not possible.), nesting boxes, mounting adhesive, and other stuff along with these rocks. If you don’t want them, then fine I won’t send you a sample, the rest of my stuff is going to the local high school along with some 100g Dhofar (محافطة ظفار) samples. I realize the person writing under the pseudonym “Tony Balogne” is likely not the persons real name. Have a great day, Rob From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:22 PM To: Rob Holcomb Cc: Tony Balogne; met-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade Your "meteorite junk"? That doesn't inspire confidence in what you are selling:) I merely pointed out that you were offering currency at a much higher rate than it is worth on the official exchange market. I was talking to Tony Balogne, not you. Do you think that is a real person? Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: Ok, $80. As for the rocks from Oman, They are in a box and I can photograph them, but I know all you cynics would just bah-humbug the pictures. So I’ll ship a sample to anyone that wants a look at what I have in my box. Michael, Of course you haven’t heard of me, I don’t know you either. I’m not a professional meteorite hunter, and I’d guess there are other people on this list that aren’t professional meteorite hunters also. I will also go out on a limb and say there are MANY meteorite experts who have nothing to do with this list. I find many comments on here snarky and unfriendly, chasing away many who might be interested in this topic. I plan to unsubscribe and just wanted to clear out my meteorite junk before I did. Rob H. From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tony Balogne Cc: Rob Holcomb; met-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade Tony Balogne. So who are you? Clearly an alias of someone. I've been dealing meteorites 16 years and never heard of you. I have kilos now:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Tony Balogne wrote: LOL, now that is funny! I'll have almost 2 kilos within a months time if Arnold is interested? He does like the oriented stuff you know? From: Michael Farmer To: Rob Holcomb Cc: met-list Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:49:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade 30 Rials is worth $78. Why would anyone pay $100 for $78? I suggest Steve Arnold of Chicago, he just bought Chelyabinsk on eBay and rapidly listed it on eBay way lower than he paid. He specializes in that form of self-inflicted stupidity. He asked me the other day why I would not sell him any Chelyabinsk. Well, now he knows why. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: > I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can > get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 > USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal > (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these > much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. > > If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country > with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of > Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally > amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't > collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though > I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. > > Rob H. > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] West, Texas - Personal Thoughts & Experience...
A special reach out to the folks of West, Texas... As most of my friends know, my primary interest for a good portion of my life has been with meteorites and all things related to them. In February of 2009 a meteorite event woke up the small town of West, Texas and their lives were changed by all of us 'rock geeks' who descended upon their happy, slow-paced farming town. Before that meteorite fell, the baked goods may have been one of the most popular commodities to date. After 'we' showed up, rocks from space were for a short time. During the months that followed that fateful day, us meteorite hunters were welcomed by land owners to hunt their land for these black rocks that fell upon them. The entire town welcomed us strangers from around the world to be part of their daily lives as we walked their lands with our eyes glued to the ground, searching for those prized stones. Today as the black smoke subsides and the devastation reveals itself from last night's tragedy, I am so very saddened for the residents of this small town with a HUGE heart that welcomed me and my friends to be a part of their lives, if not for just a short few weeks, months and in some cases years of searching for those elusive rocks from space. What I truly value and appreciate is the open arms of friendship and family that the folks of West, Texas afforded the meteorite community. I thought I would share my personal experience of being in West, Texas some years ago. My heart is heavy and am so very sorry for the lost lives and injured there. Knowing the strong nature of my Texas friends, they will not only heal and mend, they will rebuild and prosper. I know this may be mere words, but these are words from my heart and experience with these very folks I consider friends!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
Actually they were from a Ugandan I met on the road to Bikini Bottom. From: Tony Balogne [mailto:balogn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:33 PM To: Rob Holcomb Cc: 'met-list' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade That's fine, no problem. Regardless, I wouldn't want them as you probably stole them from a charity organization. From: Rob Holcomb To: 'Tony Balogne' Cc: 'met-list' Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:25:16 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade Tony, I can box up 2 kilos, but shipping to Bedford Falls isn’t possible though from here in LaLa land. Rob From: Tony Balogne [mailto:balogn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:53 PM To: Michael Farmer; Rob Holcomb Cc: met-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade LOL, now that is funny! I'll have almost 2 kilos within a months time if Arnold is interested? He does like the oriented stuff you know? From: Michael Farmer To: Rob Holcomb Cc: met-list Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:49:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade 30 Rials is worth $78. Why would anyone pay $100 for $78? I suggest Steve Arnold of Chicago, he just bought Chelyabinsk on eBay and rapidly listed it on eBay way lower than he paid. He specializes in that form of self-inflicted stupidity. He asked me the other day why I would not sell him any Chelyabinsk. Well, now he knows why. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: > I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can > get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 > USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal > (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these > much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. > > If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country > with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of > Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally > amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't > collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though > I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. > > Rob H. > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: [ImpactAnne] West, Texas
Mexico-Doug is having computer problems so here is his post. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug To: Impactika Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 3:48 pm Subject: Fwd: [ImpactAnne] West, Texas Dear Anne, been so long that the listserve is serving me glitches; Could I trouble you, s'il te plait, to post this on my behalf? --Doug -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug To: meteorite-list Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 4:38 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas Hello List, I am sorry I have been out of contact with some of you who have written. Let me just say my prayers are with the townspeople of West, Texas. My situation does not allow me to follow the news, but I just wanted to let all those kind and concerned list members know that I heard from a reliable friend of theirs that both Don and Mrs. Wanda and survived the fertilizer explosions, which were from their business. Don and Mrs. Wanda are the head of the family and community leaders I described as in a 2009 article regarding the Discovery of the Ash Creek bolide in Meteorite Magazine: "and whose destiny is now linked to our own, and that of the big-hearted Texas family that gave us this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and the best beef dinner of our lives, twice! " I hope the rest of the family and close friends are ok since casualties are being reported in the press. God be with West in the aftermath. This too shall pass and leave it's imprint on the loyal and hard-working community but farming is a very difficult business and I just hope they and the rest of West can pick up the pieces after all the actionable life and health emergency passes. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
What about the swooning women he also demands in his letter? Thursday, April 18, 2013, 3:56:08 PM, you wrote: > Hi List, > Let's make assumptions, shall we? > Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. > Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" > individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. > Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation > or right to get it back at some point in the future. > Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a > couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. > If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, > give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. > Best regards, > MikeG -- Best regards, Jodiemailto:spacero...@spaceballoon.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
One can not just walk up and "give" a meteorite to the US embassy. None of this story makes any sense. Furthermore unless he has a receipt, he would have nothing to file a claim. He also would have some trouble since that was more than 20 years ago! Like I said, Nigerian scam of some sort. Funny though. I'll sell him a nice Mbale for only a few million and call it a day. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" wrote: > Hi List, > > Let's make assumptions, shall we? > > Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. > > Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" > individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. > > Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation > or right to get it back at some point in the future. > > Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a > couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. > > If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, > give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > -- > - > Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone > Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone > RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > - > > > > On 4/18/13, Dan Miller wrote: >> I like the line where it says the value of the cargo or meteorite is >> worth billions if not trillions of dollars >> On Apr 18, 2013 1:38 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" < >> meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? >>> >>> Somebody is smoking something. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> MikeG >>> -- >>> - >>> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >>> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >>> RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
Hi List, Let's make assumptions, shall we? Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation or right to get it back at some point in the future. Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 4/18/13, Dan Miller wrote: > I like the line where it says the value of the cargo or meteorite is > worth billions if not trillions of dollars > On Apr 18, 2013 1:38 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" < > meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? >> >> Somebody is smoking something. >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> -- >> - >> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >> RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >> - >> >> >> >> On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: >> > http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 >> > >> > Regards! >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > __ >> > >> > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> > Meteorite-list mailing list >> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
30 Rials is worth $78. Why would anyone pay $100 for $78? I suggest Steve Arnold of Chicago, he just bought Chelyabinsk on eBay and rapidly listed it on eBay way lower than he paid. He specializes in that form of self-inflicted stupidity. He asked me the other day why I would not sell him any Chelyabinsk. Well, now he knows why. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: > I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can > get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 > USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal > (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these > much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. > > If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country > with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of > Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally > amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't > collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though > I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. > > Rob H. > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. Rob H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
So you're saying a half-million a gram is too much for Mbale? All sales of Mbale are hereby suspendedyada yada yada! Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum - Original Message - From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" To: "Tom Randall" Cc: "Meteorite list" Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? Somebody is smoking something. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Hi Count, maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of Cultural and Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of February 4, 2009 and Law No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) Here it is in English version: http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359 It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind of object-categories are explicitly named. Neither cover the definitions of "cultural property" nor "natural property", given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)&2) Meteorites in general, but would need an interpretation by a court. E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded "unique" (nor being of beauty, if it's W3, hehe). And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, they could be exported like antiquities in such cases too. On the other side, rocks are per se not "o.k." see the definition of "natural property". Best, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Count Deiro Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31 An: Anne Black; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Dear Anne, In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of the article. I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in Los Angeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process. So "rocks" ok...other things not. Cordially, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Anne Black >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM >To: countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Sorry, but this does not add up. >I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. I >have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some blue >serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all bringing >them back. >I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never >pick up anything there. > >I wonder what his "stones" look like! > > >Anne M. Black >www.IMPACTIKA.com >impact...@aol.com > > >-Original Message- >From: Count Deiro >To: meteorite-list >Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am >Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > >Hello Listees, > >Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a >tourist! > > >http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-f >or-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq > >"It will never be he same." > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 MetSoc >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MBIQ Indicates Arizona California Meteor 17APR2013 - Now Confirmed
Sorry this didnt post. Many in Arizona will want to check on this. Dear List, MBIQ Indicates Arizona California Meteor 17APR2013 - Now Confirmed http://mbiq.blogspot.jp/ Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MBIQ Indicates Arizona California Meteor 17APR2013 - Now Confirmed
Dear List, MBIQ Indicates Arizona California Meteor 17APR2013 - Now Confirmed http://mbiq.blogspot.jp/ Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Sorry, (apart from this adding up at least as much as the meteorite laws Anne defends), please don't do it like Anne did. Turkey is known for more than ten years to have made series of arrests for the same reasons. Turkey is very popular in Europe for beach holidays and family vacations (cause cheaper and better service than e.g. Greece). Never pick up stones from the beach as souvenirs! The most uproar here in Germany was, when a father was arrested for his 9-years-old sun having picked up an amorphous stone of marble at the beach. (Where later an "expert" commission decided (I doubt, they could have proved it), that it could stem from a base of an antique statue). Such cases happen a dozen times per year, usually they are "solved" for foreign tourists with an imprisonment on remand of up to half a year in a Turkish jail and a fine of ca. 10,000$. (Same applies to accidentally picked up fossils). Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Anne Black Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:09 An: countde...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Sorry, but this does not add up. I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. I have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some blue serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all bringing them back. I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never pick up anything there. I wonder what his "stones" look like! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Count Deiro To: meteorite-list Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Hello Listees, Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a tourist! http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-for-co llecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq "It will never be he same." Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Dear Anne, In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of the article. I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in Los Angeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process. So "rocks" ok...other things not. Cordially, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Anne Black >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM >To: countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Sorry, but this does not add up. >I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. I >have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some blue >serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all bringing >them back. >I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never >pick up anything there. > >I wonder what his "stones" look like! > > >Anne M. Black >www.IMPACTIKA.com >impact...@aol.com > > >-Original Message- >From: Count Deiro >To: meteorite-list >Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am >Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > >Hello Listees, > >Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a >tourist! > > >http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-for-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq > >"It will never be he same." > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 MetSoc >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Sorry, but this does not add up. I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. I have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some blue serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all bringing them back. I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never pick up anything there. I wonder what his "stones" look like! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Count Deiro To: meteorite-list Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Hello Listees, Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a tourist! http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-for-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq "It will never be he same." Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MBIQ Detects Romania / Hungary / Poland Meteor 22:26 Local 16APR2013
Dear List, MBIQ Detects Romania / Hungary / Poland Meteor 22:26 Local 16APR2013 A widely seen meteor over Hungary, maybe Poland and Romania on 16APR2013. Long duration. Mybe mets http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/04/mbiq-detects-romania-hungary-meteor.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Three From JPL on Time Magazine 'Most Influential' List
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-141 Three From JPL on Time Magazine 'Most Influential' List Jet Propulsion Laboratory April 18, 2013 PASADENA, Calif. -- On a new list of the 100 most influential people on Earth, three work at the same California address, where they've led projects to study things that are not on Earth. The list announced today by TIME Magazine includes Don Yeomans, Pete Theisinger and Richard Cook, all at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. Yeomans manages NASA's Near-Earth Objects Program Office at JPL, which coordinates the search for and tracking of asteroids and comets passing into Earth's neighborhood to identify possible hazards to Earth. Since 2004, Theisinger and Cook have alternated managing NASA's Mars Science Laboratory project, which landed the highly successful car-sized Curiosity rover on Mars last summer. Both previously managed NASA's Mars Exploration Rover project with its twin rovers, Spirit and Opportunity. The TIME 100, as the magazine's Managing Editor Richard Stengel has explained, is "a list of the most influential people in the world. They're scientists, they're thinkers, they're philosophers, they're leaders, they're icons, they're artists, they're visionaries. People who are using their ideas, their visions, their actions to transform the world and have an effect on a multitude of people." "We are honored to have three distinguished individuals from JPL on the TIME list of most influential people," said JPL Director Charles Elachi. "Their contributions in the fields of asteroid research and Mars exploration is representative of all the exciting and important work being done at NASA and JPL on behalf of the American people." Yeomans grew up in Rochester, N.Y., and now lives in Glendale, Calif. He graduated from Middlebury College, Vt., with a bachelor's degree in mathematics and earned a doctorate in astronomy from the University of Maryland, College Park. He has worked at JPL since 1976. In addition to managing NASA's Near-Earth Objects Program Office, Yeomans is supervisor for JPL's Solar System Dynamics Group. He was a science team member for the Deep Impact/EPOXI mission, which deployed an impactor that was "run over" by comet Tempel 1 in 2005 and flew close to comet Hartley 2 in 2010. He was also the U.S. project scientist for the Japanese-led Hayabusa mission that returned a sample from near-Earth object Itokawa in 2010, and a team chief for the Near-Earth Asteroid Rendezvous mission that orbited, then landed on the asteroid Eros in 2001. The first images of the return of comet Halley in 1982 were also obtained based on Yeomans predictions. Theisinger is a native of Fresno, Calif., and lives now in La Crescenta, Calif. He graduated from the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, with a degree in physics. His career at JPL began in 1967 with the Mariner 5 mission to Venus and now includes contributions to missions including the Voyager mission to the outer planets (launched in 1977 and still going) and the Galileo mission to Jupiter (launched in 1989 and concluded in 2003). His Mars experience dates back to the 1971 Mariner 9 orbiter mission to Mars. Cook is originally from Bismarck, N.D., and now lives in Santa Clarita, Calif. He earned a bachelor's degree in engineering physics from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and a master's degree in aerospace engineering from the University of Texas, Austin. Cook joined JPL in 1989, working first on the Magellan mission to Venus. He was the Mars Pathfinder mission manager responsible for operating the first rover - Sojourner - on the surface of Mars in 1997. He held several roles on the Mars Exploration Rover project, which landed the Spirit and Opportunity rovers in 2004, including flight system manager and project manager. The NASA Near Earth Objects (NEO) program at the agency's headquarters in Washington manages and funds the search, study and monitoring of NEOs, or asteroids and comets, whose orbits periodically bring them close to Earth. NASA's study of NEOs provides important clues to understanding the origin of our solar system. The objects also are a repository of natural resources and could become waystations for future exploration. In collaboration with other external organizations, one of the program's key goals is to search for and try to mitigate potential NEO impacts on Earth. JPL conducts the NEO program's technical and scientific activities. For more information about asteroids and near-Earth objects, visit: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch . NASA's Mars Science Laboratory project is using Curiosity to investigate the environmental history within Gale Crater, a location where the project has found that conditions were long ago favorable for microbial life. Curiosity, carrying 10 science instruments, landed in August 2012 to begin its two-year prime mission. JPL, a division of Caltech, manages the project for NASA's Science Mission Di
[meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Hello Listees, Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a tourist! http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-for-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq "It will never be he same." Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Don Yeomans Named in Time's 100 Most Influential People in the World
http://time100.time.com/2013/04/18/time-100/slide/don-yeomans/ The 2013 TIME 100 TIME presents its annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world, from artists and leaders to pioneers, titans and icons Pioneers Don Yeomans Asteroid hunter, 70 By Rusty Schweickart April 18, 2013 Don Yeomans is one of the reasons we can all sleep a little better at night. For over a decade, Don and I have been hunting for incoming asteroids that come too close to Earth, with Don leading the NASA effort to find and track them, while I focus via the B612 Foundation - named for the asteroid home of the Little Prince - on how to deflect them if necessary. Every night, telescopes make thousands of asteroid observations which go to Don's premier team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, where that data is converted into information about the trajectory of the rocks years or even decades into the future. One day, without question, it will be Don and his team who issue a warning to the world that it's time to launch a deflection campaign to prevent an incalculable disaster. We know how things worked out for the dinosaurs; it takes a levelheaded leader like Don to spare us their fate. Schweickart, founder of the B612 Foundation, flew aboard the Apollo 9 mission __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA Unclassified Contributed by: Jean-Michel Masson http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
