That makes perfect sense to me. Follow the basic principals of the
scientific method. Why does SETI operate outside the norms of
science? Of what merit are the findings of any tests they perform on
an unofficial meteorite?
Michael in so. Cal.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Carl Agee wrote:
I seem to think this is a control issue. Someone wants total control over the
meteorite. Sad to dominate a meteorite fall.
Never seen this type of action before.
Submission changes nothing about the science or the papers released later. It
is simply the act of registering the meteorite officially
I'm having a hard time understanding this "problem" with Novato. Since
when do deposit samples not get analyzed and worked on? Maybe I'm
missing something here but the way I do it, is the sample gets ID-ed
and classified and then if it merits further research that happens
next, in that order. For e
Yes, hunting costs money, lots and lots of it. Ask me, I'm on the other side of
the planet right now and western unions as coming in daily. No credit cards
accepted where I am:)
But we have responsibilities. Pay to play, including getting the type specimen
properly curated. I am in 100% agreemen
Comayagua was sold to the university in Tegucigalpa. I guess it will never be
seen again.
As far as GSI India, gone into the black hole of Calcutta. Katol needs to be
done in the states.
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On May 1, 2013, at 1:24 AM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
wrote:
> Agreed, somebody ne
This is a long thread and I haven't read all of it. But here are the
facts about provisional names and approvals of new meteorites:
Provisional names are ONLY given to meteorites from dense collection
areas. The reason is that the geographic part of the name is already
agreed upon. The prov
The problem I have is every one should spend their hard earned money in the
field looking for these damn things to ease the people that don't leave their
driveway. I'm sorry before u bitch and complain get off your ass and not spend
time in Stewart Valley or in Franconia getting DCA crap classi
I think the sample is still floating around in that 'blimp'... ;-/
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From: MEM
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To: Greg Hupé ; Robert Verish ; Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Cc: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
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re: 'Navato'
To repeat a comment I made to a Facebook thread that parallels this one...
"It would seem to me that the more accurate "Type Sample" amount IS the
entire 29 grams ['donated' by Lisa Webber and Glenn Rivera]!! Obviously some
material is eaten up for analysis so the only hold up for
Very good post, Michael.
And thanks for making my point - if Novato is already classified (L6 br), you
would like to update your database and fill out labels with an officially
approved name. How long of a delay and why is there a delay?
-- Bob V.
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@me
One of the stones from this find was "lent" to the NASA team, with an open
mind and naivte perhaps; a situation that definitely shook her by total
surprise and dismay, when another finder of another stone offered a
perspective. She wasn't pleased to learn that she may never see it again.
Hi Mike and List,
No need to apologize, I agree completely with the following statement you made
in your earlier post:
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Everybody wins when the specimen is classified and approved via an
open, transparent, and "officia
Hi List,
I wasn't pointing fingers or trying to refer specifically to Novato.
I may have come off that way, I am afraid. I meant in general with
all falls, and this recent mention of Novato jogged my memory about
the recent spate of unapproved falls. I had meant to post to the List
a couple of w
Peter informed me yesterday that some additional research is being done,
presumably on the sample that is to be donated to UCLA. If all goes
according to plan, then sometime, hopefully within the next few months,
we'll have the name approved.
Alan
Alan Rubin
Institute of Geophysics and Planet
Meteorite Falls in Central California are hereby suspended until
further notice.
Jim
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
> Meteorite Falls in Central California are hereby suspended until further
> notice.
>
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
>> J
Jim Wrote,
We have a procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance with
thatprocedure..
I agree completely. If one dealer can hold up a classification because he/she
is too cheap to deposit their share or thinks they are above the rules, the
world is better off without them!
Ad
First off, I'd like to say how pleased I am to see Matija Bericic, the original
purchaser, put the meteorite back on the market. He had been in touch with me
within days and actively pursued getting a piece for research purposes. At the
time no one had any idea how many, or little, would be reco
Agreed, somebody needs to cough up a piece to consolidate the type
specimen and satisfy the requirements for publication in the Met
Bulletin. That is how it should be. Until such a specimen is
analyzed, submitted, and approved, it is not a meteorite, it is a rock
that is suspected to be a meteori
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance with that
procedurein regards to classification and submittal to the NomCom.
No matter what the excuse
I am glad to see that no compromises are being made and that the Meteoritical
Society rules are being followed. It is also good that most dealers are aware
of the rules and are willing to honor them. I am particularly impressed with
the fact that a List Member(s) was willing to step up and p
As should be done.
Congrats though on third California fall. Two in one year ain't half bad :)
Michael Farmer
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On May 1, 2013, at 12:36 AM, "Alan Rubin" wrote:
> I was informed by Laurence Garvie that they don't deal in promises. They
> will approve the name only after the
I was informed by Laurence Garvie that they don't deal in promises. They
will approve the name only after they are notified that an actual physical
specimen of the proper mass is in the possession of a qualified institution.
Alan
Alan Rubin
Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics
Univer
Hi Carl,
> I've been told provisional names are only given to NWA material and
> that all others are referred to as "proposed name".
No, this is incorrect. For instance, there are hundreds of meteorites
from dry lakes throughout the desert southwest that have provisional
names/numbers that will n
Hi All,
There is an interesting post on SpaceWeather today reporting that a hole
has appeared in one of the many solar panels of the International Space
Station. Here's a link to an image of the hole tweeted by Commander
Chris Hadfield:
https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/328920180241596417/
Hi Bob,
> Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
> If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
> why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen and move
> forward with approving at least the name "Novato" (if need be, at
> least provisio
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we have to wait for just the name to be approved?
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreemen
Hi Mark, Larry and all!
I looked into age dating tests. I have several samples I want tested.
Each test takes about 6 months at a cost of $8500. Sooo, not going
to happen in my project! Very time consuming, I was told, as a team
of folks have to pick the sample apart down to the grain level.
Greetings all!
I have a few nice slices of Mbale left and I'll offer them again here,
before moving them to P-bay. Details below.
Linton
***
I recently came across a nice Mbale L5/6 stone and have had some very
nice
slices taken off one end. One fa
Hello again, short update:
Don't be sad - the early bird ate already the Gan Gan.
Many thanks!
Perhaps, to console you, we should remind you on a no less excellent iron
specimen in the same price category, which has missed your attention, cause
it was covered by Ukrainian cosmic debris.
The Whit
Hello Rob, the other Novato searchers and the List,
This is a very interesting Urban fall and a very challenging meteorite to hunt.
Personally, I hunted my backside off and did not find a crumb (although, I went
right past the individual that Bob Verish discovered, like within 4-6 feet!).
Is no
I looked for that slice on Ebay and can not find it.
Jim
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Matson, Robert D.
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is a
> non-issue. Dr. Jenniskens has long-since pledged to donate more
> than adequate Novato type specimen
Good Morning everybody.
The Meteorite House loves such ads, where it hasn't to write lengthy
explanations:
http://kuerzer.de/Ganplanet1
The Dark Planet is floating through the iron spaces.
Surrounded, as we see here better, by his satellites:
http://kuerzer.de/Ganplanet2
What it is?
A giant
Michael, Bob, Anne, Jim, Erik, List,
Though it appears that the trend line is the same for all the different
meteorites, with the smallest stones at the n.w. and getting larger to
the s.e., there's at least one reason why this may not be entirely true
for all the different falls. It's possible
Hello List
I would like to offer a lot of Taza, enjoy the pictures via:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36221954@N07/
Who's interested contact me of the list,
best regards
Ahmad
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Hello Robert:
I had seen the movie years (decades) ago and sort of remember the ending
(have it recorded but only watched half "live"). They actually did try to
make it as scientifically accurate as they could. In the movie, they were
not trying to look for a metal to make their ships out of, but
Hello Carsten, Rob, Larry and Anne,
I got the offer of Mr. Ljupco as well and have investigated the case.
Obviously there was an authentic meteorite fall on Sep 27, 1972 at
about 6:00 local time near Struga, Macedonia. Several pieces of a
chondrite have been collected from an impact pit. One la
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chelyabinsk
Contributed by: Jérôme de Creymer
http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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