Re: [meteorite-list] AI Rap about meteorites

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

With all due respect, those lyrics must have been reviewed by the Mister Rogers 
AI checker before release. They lack the true "flavor" of what one would expect 
from these particular artists.


From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 1:54 AM
To: meteorite-list 
Subject: [meteorite-list] AI Rap about meteorites 
 
My second interaction with Chat APT and it kinda blew me away...
See for yourself:


Chat APT initiated by Paul Gessler

"write rap song in the style of tupac and doja kat about meteorites"

Verse 1:
Tupac:
Listen up y'all, I'ma spit it real hot
About the rocks that fall, yeah they really rock the block
>From outer space they come, with fire and a blaze
Meteorites they're called, they leave us in a daze

Doja Cat:
But don't you worry, they won't hit your house
Most burn up in the air, before they hit the ground
They're made of stone and ice, and sometimes metal too
Falling to the earth, with a trail of light that's true

Chorus:
Meteorites, they're falling from the sky
Bringing us the wonders, of the universe high
They're falling all around, don't be afraid
Just watch and enjoy, the cosmic parade

Verse 2:
Tupac:
These rocks have traveled, for millions of years
Through the vastness of space, facing no fears
They're ancient history, brought back to life
With every impact, they give us a new light

Doja Cat:
Some say they're a curse, but that's just not the case
They bring us new knowledge, and a better human race
So next time you see one, don't hide or run
Embrace the beauty, of what we've just begun

Chorus:
Meteorites, they're falling from the sky
Bringing us the wonders, of the universe high
They're falling all around, don't be afraid
Just watch and enjoy, the cosmic parade

Outro:
Tupac:
So remember my friends, don't be scared of the night
When a meteorite falls, it'll be a beautiful sight
And who knows what we'll find, in the fragments we collect
So let's keep our eyes open, and not neglect

Doja Cat:
This cosmic treasure, that's ours to claim
So let's learn and discover, and never be the same
So here's to the meteorites, and all they bring
The universe is ours, let's go and do our thing.

Drop the MIc !
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not an answer they like

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I have a prewritten reply that includes a link to Washington University. When 
all reason fails I send them links to Steve Curry news articles.





From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
tracy latimer via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:28 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Subject: [meteorite-list] Not an answer they like 
 
I've been fielding a lot of e-mails this week from someone who is certain that 
a meteorite nearly hit their house.  The picture they sent me is of what looks 
like a weathered lava bomb that likely washed free of an upslope location and 
rolled/fell/bounced into his yard.  They found it the following day after a 
"loud thump that shook the house", then picked it up and hosed it off, so don't 
have any pictures of it in situ, just a shallow hole with muddy splash marks.  
I've told them several times that it doesn't look like a meteorite: vesicles, 
not regmaglypts; no fusion crust, nothing that identifies it as a likely 
meteorite, but they don't want to hear it.  Anyone who has dealt with a 
persistent "meteorite" finder, how did you eventually get them to listen to 
reason/experience -- or not?

Best!
Tracy Latimer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Christies auction results

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Money laundering at a Christies auction? I guess it could happen but  350,000 
for a 400 dollar item might red flag the deal a little too much. 

Here's a more plausible example, not sayin it's ML of course. After all, the 
beauty and depth of the soul of the artist involved are immeasurable.  
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/arts/design/110-million-basquiat-painting-yusaku-maezawa.html





From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Albert Jambon via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 11:19 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christies auction results 
 
Ever heard of money laundering?


Le 24/02/2021 à 15:44, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list a 
écrit :
> I wish the person who paid $350,000.00 USD for a 4-inch Muonionalusta
> sphere would send me some of what they were smoking during the
> bidding. LOL.
>
>
>
> On 2/23/21, Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Team Meteorite:
>>
>> Who needs Bitcoin, when you can own meteorites?
>>
>> Please review the prices paid/gram for EVERYTHING/ANYTHING!
>> Consignors were well rewarded.
>>
>> https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/deep-impact-martian-lunar-other-rare-meteorites/lots/2006
>>
>> Kevin Kichinka
>> Directly under Betelgeuse tonight...
>>
>

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Re: [meteorite-list] LAUNCH OF GLOBAL METEORITE ASSOCIATION, INC.

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More pay to play... :P

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Gem and Mineral Show

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Can't deny the importance of the ability to choose. Where would science be 
without it?



From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Ben Fisler via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:45 PM
To: M come Meteorite Meteorites 
Cc: meteorite list ; AL Mitterling 

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Gem and Mineral Show

I will be going.  The only venues that will be closed by the Covid Comissars 
will be the City-Owned properties like the Convention Center. That still leaves 
the lion‘s share of locations free to
choose.  If you can go to Home Depot, the grocery store, or Christmas shopping, 
you can go to a dealer’s room at a hotel.


Ben Fisler


On Dec 28, 2020, at 6:53 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


from what I know from reliable sources the Tucson Show is not happening this 
year

Matteo


M come Meteorite Meteorites & Minerals

Email: mcomemeteorite2...@yahoo.it
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it


Il lunedì 28 dicembre 2020, 04:10:11 CET, AL Mitterling via Meteorite-list 
 ha scritto:


Is there still going to be a show this year? Looks like Arizona is having a lot 
of cases of the virus. Curious who all plans to attend. Best!

--AL Mitterling
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Gem and Mineral Show

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

Can't deny the importance of the ability to choose. Where would science be 
without it?



From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Ben Fisler via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:45 PM
To: M come Meteorite Meteorites 
Cc: meteorite list ; AL Mitterling 

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Gem and Mineral Show 
 
I will be going.  The only venues that will be closed by the Covid Comissars 
will be the City-Owned properties like the Convention Center. That still leaves 
the lion‘s share of locations free to 
choose.  If you can go to Home Depot, the grocery store, or Christmas shopping, 
you can go to a dealer’s room at a hotel.  


Ben Fisler 


On Dec 28, 2020, at 6:53 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

 
from what I know from reliable sources the Tucson Show is not happening this 
year

Matteo


M come Meteorite Meteorites & Minerals 

Email: mcomemeteorite2...@yahoo.it 
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 


Il lunedì 28 dicembre 2020, 04:10:11 CET, AL Mitterling via Meteorite-list 
 ha scritto: 


Is there still going to be a show this year? Looks like Arizona is having a lot 
of cases of the virus. Curious who all plans to attend. Best!

--AL Mitterling
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[meteorite-list] Tucson Gem and Mineral Show

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Those darn flunkies! Isn't there some sort of outreach program for the poor 
things?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

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After over 40 years in the resale business I can think of quite a few scenarios 
that might lead to a sale like this. Theft is a possibility that should always 
be looked at but in this case seems unlikely. There are certainly people out 
there worthy of Darwin Awards that would try to sell stolen merchandise this 
unique on ebay. Many other more likely possibilities though.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 'gold rush' after meteor falls over Prescott, Arizona

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

The "real" meteorite hunters like to keep things as quiet as possible. Can't 
have all these inexperienced yahoos out in the field bothering the residents 
and ruining the recovery effort. 

It's all about the science you know :P



From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:30 AM
To: Paul 
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 'gold rush' after meteor falls over 
Prescott, Arizona 
 
So, is this a confirmed fall? Has anyone found meteorites yet?

The lack of chatter regarding new falls on the List is something
relatively recent. I'm not used to this level of silence after a
potential new fall. Has Facebook stolen all the thunder? If so, that's
sad.

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG


On 9/19/20, Paul via Meteorite-list  wrote:
> Meteorite 'gold rush' after meteor falls over Prescott
> By: Chloe Mar, Northern Arizona News, Feb 17, 2020
> https://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/prescott/meteorite-gold-rush-after-meteor-falls-over-prescott
>
> Expert in Prescott describes Sunday meteor event in northern Arizona
> Joey Carrera, AZFamilyNews, Feb 16, 2020
> https://www.azfamily.com/news/expert-in-prescott-describes-sunday-meteor-event-in-northern-arizona/article_282bfc50-5140-11ea-8249-aff2ac03c70c.html
>
> Yours,
>
> Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] test

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test
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Re: [meteorite-list] Found Rock in the Middle of Altered Circular Mark on Pavement

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Yer kidding... Right?










From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Peter Richards via Meteorite-list 

Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 1:42 PM

To: MeteorList 

Subject: [meteorite-list] Found Rock in the Middle of Altered Circular Mark on 
Pavement

 


As mentioned perhaps in list archives, this is within range of Park

Forest, according to data I found on strewn field sizes, as

recognized, too bad the citation isn't readily available. I was

distracted while doing research in many ways, for years, and seemingly

with good reason I didn't overdo it, because, believe it, or not,

things simply disappear (sorry to digress, please excuse the bandwidth

and time expended). So, I am seeing evidence they, where they noticed

this, thought someone tossed it in there, but that the heat heated

that within that ring of that radius, basically, if it wasn't bent,

also, by impact, which is not my area of expertise, of course. This

was estimated at a bundle

(https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/meteorite-for-sale/1899129/) I

don't want to look the dupe, and I surmise everyone will be the expert

that I am not (: "it's not [this]", "it's not [that]): first two

images here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/67498324@N08/albums (for

lack of discovering another Flickr account, there's this, maybe once

defunct, I can't help but wonder why these are here, if there was a

different account, it had many different finds on there, I was

documenting doing my work, which I emphasize over decrees and recs

from others, fwiw)

Peter Richards

(email or text to 603-759-1896... this can be had with a bill of sale,

for now I have it on verbal contract... thank you)

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[meteorite-list] Etsy Lunar Offerings

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

The integrity of the meteorite market and every market for that matter depends 
upon the honesty of those involved.

It's not unusual for the random meteorite enthusiast to offer what they think 
might be a meteorite for sale without any real knowledge as to what a meteorite 
is.

You do know the difference. You do know that these "Lunars" are not lunars. You 
have admitted that they were rejected by meteorite scientists. Please end this.

www.etsy.com/listing/736107038/meteorite-1678-gram-lunar-meteorite

Meteorite 1678 Gram Lunar Meteorite

$49,000.00

Date:
32 minutes ago11:34pm EST
steve

Message:

Actually the integrity of most markets is regulation and oversight. There is 
none here. I dispute the observations of those that have seen the photos. They 
are not conclusions because they refused to study them. I am being totally up 
front and honest. I'm not a random meteorite enthusiast. I don't collect or 
shop or read about anything, particularly not space rocks. I have researched 
for hundreds of hours, so I know what I'm talking about. The chemical analysis 
are from Activation Laboratories. A six year old can see the difference between 
melting and abrasion or deterioration, especially with a microscope, which you 
don't need with this meteorites. Why don't you just accept reality. This will 
be public very soon, and there is enough to go around. You should come and get 
some for yourself. My "agenda" you write about, is to sell my meteorites, 
publish a coffee table photo book, and retire. Is that ok with you, Carl?

Date:
19 minutes ago11:47pm EST
Message:

Your specimens were rejected and deemed unworthy of study because they are so 
obviously not lunar. A six year old rockhound can see that your "lunars" are 
terrestrial junk. Your pipe dreams of wealth and prominence are delusional. You 
can't offer unclassified meteorites for this kind of money without raising 
every red flag on the planet.

You can't self classify material like this just because you think you 
understand the things you've found on a search engine. Once again. I think you 
know this and you are still proceeding to try and defraud the public. Please 
stop.


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[meteorite-list] Park Forest Strewnfield Limits

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I've mentioned the 40g PF that was recovered in Chicago Heights but never 
really asked for opinions pertaining to the feasibility of it having actually 
dropped there as part of the fall.

It was recovered by a gentleman in the parking lot of a thrift store located at 
2515 Chicago Rd, Chicago Heights, IL. This guy didn't know all that much about 
meteorites but his collection method was sound enough. 

All the material he found was bagged and tagged with the address of each 
individual location he searched. This is why there is no doubt as to where the 
40g specimen was found. He had 22 separate bags of material which he asked me 
to go through. He had no idea if any of it was Park Forest. I still have all of 
it in a box somewhere but the 40g rock was the only meteorite.

So what do you think? Was it found in situ or did it hitch a ride?
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[meteorite-list] AD - 37.1g Mifflin slice - 40g Park Forest individual

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

Hi all,

I'm offering two specimens for sale. One is a 37.1g slice of Mifflin from Joe 
K's main mass find. You may have seen it languishing on ebay for a while now if 
you're a Wisconsin meteorite fan or just a Mifflin enthusiast. It's tough to 
get a decent price on ebay what with ebay fees as well as the fact that many 
"meteorite dealers" have made every effort to convince the public that they are 
the only trusted sources of material. Kudos to you guys :P

This Mifflin slice goes for best price over 2900. Here's a link to ebay but for 
the best price contact me directly please.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133086757743?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

The other offer is a 40g Park Forest individual. It's the only PF I know of 
that was ever recovered in Chicago Heights. I can show you the exact location 
it came from within a few feet. I figure it was somehow transported, fell off a 
vehicle maybe which makes it a hammer as an extra bonus! 

The finder recorded the location of every particle of material he found 
meticulously. He didn't even know the specimen was PF. Everything he had was 
bagged with each location carefully recorded and he had many bags. Since this 
was the only PF he had and I had to identify it for him I have no reason to 
doubt his find location. There are more details relating to this find which I 
will not bore you all with here but will be glad to share with anyone who is 
interested.

Minimum price for this one is 40 a gram.

Contact me anytime about these rocks or just to chat if you like.
Bill

PS:
I can supply you with some of the finest references in the meteorite world.
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[meteorite-list] Southern Tip of Lake Michigan/Northern Indiana Fireball 5/11/19

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Is there any interesting info regarding this event?
https://fireball.amsmeteors.org/imo_view/event/2019/2067
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[meteorite-list] Awesome Shock Melted (NWA 6963) Martian Specimens; Changed to (Do we really need a bombastic, self serving IMCA meteorite dealer to moderate The List)

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

Sorry everyone, I forgot to chance the subject line in my last post.

"Bigjohn",

Your offer to moderate our list is not only a conflict of interest on many 
levels but downright absurd. It also reeks of a feeling of self entitlement 
that's actually based on very little in the qualifications department. Who are 
you to decide what constitutes bickering. Where did you get the ability to 
define whats "out of hand"?

Heated discussions can be very enlightening and reveal many truths. If this 
bothers you there's always the delete button or you can cancel your 
subscription and concentrate on your real Administrative duties. The duties you 
list as qualifications to give you the right to restrict honest, passionate 
discourse here.




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Re: [meteorite-list] Awesome Shock Melted (NWA 6963) Martian Specimens

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

"Bigjohn",


Your offer to moderate our list is not only a conflict of interest on many 
levels but downright absurd. It also reeks of a feeling of self entitlement 
that's actually based on very little in the qualifications department. Who are 
you to decide what constitutes bickering. Where did you get the ability to 
define whats "out of hand"?


Heated discussions can be very enlightening and reveal many truths. If this 
bothers you there's always the delete button or you can cancel your 
subscription and concentrate on your real Administrative duties. The duties you 
list as qualifications to give you the right to restrict honest, passionate 
discourse here.




From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:32 PM
To: metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awesome Shock Melted (NWA 6963) Martian Specimens
  

Dear Art,
Hope you are well.

I formally request that I be made a “Moderator” for the Metlist, so that there 
is SOMEONE, who can put an end to this back and forth bickering when it gets 
out of hand. Which it has in this scenario...

I have extensive experience as an Administrator for both the “Meteorites” page 
on facebook, and the “Is it a Meteorite” page at the same online venue, for 
numerous years now.

Most Sincerely,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295

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Re: [meteorite-list] Michigan Meteor

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Where can I find these pics and the latest discussion about the new Michigan 
fall?




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It has been found 

Michael Farmer

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Les to Rovy via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sine I'm only 3 hours away was going to go to the area and check out and see 
> if anyone or anything can be found.
> 
> Cordially
> 
> Rick
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[meteorite-list] Two greedy pricks

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What a surprise. The original Meteorats.
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[meteorite-list] not an AD

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I told you so :P
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[meteorite-list] Lunar sample collection bag.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-moon-dust-bag-for-sale-auction-met-20170522-story.html

 
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[meteorite-list] AD: 37.1 g Mifflin Slice

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Hi all,

I'm offering my 37.1 g Mifflin end cut once again. A previously interested 
party reneged on the purchase so it's available. This thick slice is from the 
332 g Kerchner main mass. It's fully crusted on one side and has been expertly 
prepared. The last picture in the series is the main mass. See it here:

http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/Billkies/slideshow/Mifflin%20Slice%20From%20Main%20Mass

Contact me with questions, for a price or to make an offer.

Regards,
Bill
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where or how to get information on meteorite falling from the sky I heard and we saw a flash of light an also a spot in our field that something hit and threw dirt about 75 ft in

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

Here's a good place to start.


http://www.amsmeteors.org/members/imo_view/event/2017/454/


Where are you located?



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from the sky I heard and we saw a flash of light an also a spot in our field 
that something hit and threw dirt about 75 ft in a fan like area there is a 
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[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Bolide Audio

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmW6zCp6I4
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[meteorite-list] Meteor over Wisconsin

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Is there any radar data yet?
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[meteorite-list] JackStraw Mifflin pics AD TOO

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

Hi all,

I just found a group of pictures from an evening I had the pleasure to share 
with a group of meteorite hunters during the Mifflin search. Pretty belated I 
know but these guys asked me back then, to send them the images.

I misplaced them, puter melted down but I just found them in an old dropbox 
folder.

Anyway, I have no record of their email addresses but I do remember one email 
address started with "jackstraw" or something real close. So if you still read 
this list "jackstraw" and want these pics or you know how to contact him so I 
can fulfill my commitment to send the pics let me know.

Speaking of Mifflin, I have a thick 37.1 g endcut from the Kerschner main mass 
for sale. It is beautiful. Sells to best offer.
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Re: [meteorite-list] [9/52]: NWA 8159, Martian augite basalt available for sale

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

"an even greater source is the 'attitude' of too many long-time posters, their 
language, and the arguments."

Baloney, that's called reality. The unabridged met-list had a lot to offer. 
News, current events, science, the latest fall info, real opinions, 
personalities...  Many people came here to engage in, or just observe, spirited 
conversation and get a little insight into the passion and some of the 
unlimited facets of the meteorite community. Not always pretty but that's life. 

Endless watered down dealer talk lacks humanity, abounds everywhere and is very 
boring.
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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Meteorites Are Hidden on Farmland?

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Pleasant article. Very little hype of the sort we are often inundated with. The 
only thing that I found disappointing was the lack of information pertaining to 
the rock/meteorite itself.

Kinda looks like a pallasite but that's just a silly guess, I guess ; since 
it's only based on a glance. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Bill






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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:00 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] How Many Meteorites Are Hidden on Farmland?
    
http://www.agweb.com/article/how-many-meteorites-are-hidden-on-farmland-naa-chris-bennett/



How Many Meteorites Are Hidden on Farmland?
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In early May, with corn already up, Bruce Lilienthal spotted a large rock 
jutting halfway out of his heavy, black dirt. He dug out a 16” long, 10” wide 
and 2” thick specimen weighing an unseemly 33 lbs. Unknown to Lilienthal, he’d 
harvested the single most unique item in his farm’s history: a meteorite.


Regards!


Tom


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Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

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All that does is help prove my point.






From: Count Deiro 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:49 PM
To: bill kies
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
    
FYI

http://www.greatbritishracing.com/news-and-features/latest-news/count-guido-deiro-outstays-his-rivals/#IVhBj6LkfXJaJVTY.97

In case you had doubts

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

-Original Message-
>From: bill kies 
>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 4:54 PM
>To: Count Deiro 
>Cc: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>And so the "Count" of "self-righteous, self centered, self in*portant, 
>supercill*ious gas bags" has spoken. Amen and thanks so much for all your 
>wisdom.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Meteorite-list  on behalf 
>of Count Deiro via Meteorite-list 
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:41 PM
>To: John Lutzon; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>    
>No apologies necessary, John. It had to be said by someone. Too often the List 
>gets hijacked by self-righteous, self centered, self inportant, supercillious 
>gas bags.
>
>Count Deiro
>IMCA 3536    
>
>You have stated what many Listees agree with. 
>
>-Original Message-
>>From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>>List,
>>My apologies first
>>
>>What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
>>--or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !
>>
>>This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
>>this List.
>>
>>Move On..
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>>
>>Mondegreens
>>
>>Here is a perfect example:
>>
>>http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml
>
>
>
>Misheard Lyrics, performed by Orange Crush - amIright
>www.amiright.com
>Misheard Lyrics, performed by Orange Crush. Misheard lyrics (also known as 
>mondegreens) are instances of when a song lyric can't be understood, and the 
>mind ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
>>To: Dark Matter
>>Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
>>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>>
>>I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
>>names!
>>With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might 
>>ease
>>some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!
>>
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Looks like we got the band back together on this one.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>> wrote:
>>
>>This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...
>>
>>
>>
>>Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>
>>On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>>> Captain Blood wrote:
>>>
>>> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>>> The original phrase in this instance is
>>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>>>
>>> =
>>> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is 
>>> not at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of
>>> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even 
>>> older proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might
>>> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of 
>>> years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>>>
>>> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
>>> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>>>
>>> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
>>> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game
>>> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the 
>>> interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to
>>> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle 
>>> proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and
>>> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring 
>>> suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure and
>>> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
>>> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year
>>> old 

Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

And so the "Count" of "self-righteous, self centered, self in*portant, 
supercill*ious gas bags" has spoken. Amen and thanks so much for all your 
wisdom.






From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Count Deiro via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:41 PM
To: John Lutzon; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
    
No apologies necessary, John. It had to be said by someone. Too often the List 
gets hijacked by self-righteous, self centered, self inportant, supercillious 
gas bags.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536    

You have stated what many Listees agree with. 

-Original Message-
>From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>List,
>My apologies first
>
>What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
>--or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !
>
>This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
>this List.
>
>Move On..
>
>John
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>Mondegreens
>
>Here is a perfect example:
>
>http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml



Misheard Lyrics, performed by Orange Crush - amIright
www.amiright.com
Misheard Lyrics, performed by Orange Crush. Misheard lyrics (also known as 
mondegreens) are instances of when a song lyric can't be understood, and the 
mind ...
>
>
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
>To: Dark Matter
>Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>I want what you guys are taking!  "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles 
>names!
>With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might 
>ease
>some of the confusion as to who is who!  You so funny!
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:
>
>
>Looks like we got the band back together on this one.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> wrote:
>
>This has strayed wy off the topic of meteorites...
>
>
>
>Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
>On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Captain Blood wrote:
>>
>> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>>
>> =
>> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not 
>> at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of
>> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older 
>> proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might
>> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of 
>> years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>>
>> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
>> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>>
>> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely 
>> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game
>> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the 
>> interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to
>> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle 
>> proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and
>> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring 
>> suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure and
>> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a 
>> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year
>> old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer 
>> can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be
>> beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an 
>> arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with
>> a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, and this is a 
>> living example of how it ha
> pp
>>  ens.
>>
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list 
>> To: Paul Gessler ; Met. Adam Hupe 
>> ; Meteorite List
>> 
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Teaching 

Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495

[bill kies via Meteorite-list]

You guys. Is this serious? I noticed the Washington/Florida thing around a 
decade ago, just thought it was sibling nonsense. So much for the Hoi Polloi 
versus the trailer trash with bad teeth sneaking around your motels with or 
without good meteorites.






From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:05 PM
To: Bigjohn Shea; meteorite list
Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495
    
John,

It matters not about the weight at this point. What matters is how she came 
aggressively charging out of left field because of the actions and aggressions 
caused by someone else's public actions towards me, all of which could have 
been settled 'politely' with  a simple private email to me. They chose to make 
a spectacle of it and another decided to air his dirty laundry to be part of 
their hopeful public lynching of me.

New personnel at a new museum that hasn't opened yet or not, I will protect 
myself especially when only a couple people know the 'real' true story and 
their agendas, most has been publicly discussed on this thread so do not feel 
the need to join in on throwing  me under the bus, John!

I'm very tired of this whole discussion, especially from those who do not know 
the whole truth, including the aggressors!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Bigjohn Shea  wrote:
> 
> I think there is an unnecessary amount of hostility being displayed to a 
> museum curator over the claim of the "World's Largest Lunar", which is 
> essentially a marketing factoid anyhow.  Honestly I did not find her 
> statements to be as aggressive or accusatory  as they have been painted to be.
> 
> Barbra Barrett stated: "I’m writing now because I have been honored to curate 
> the main mass of NWA 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg."
> 
> Given what is said above, the mass is likely right across the building from 
> Barbra's office.  It seems to me that the thing which would settle this once 
> and for all would be for the curator to take a moment out of her busy 
> schedule, weigh the main mass of  NWA 10495, photograph this process 
> thoroughly, and have this information forwarded for publication in the 
> metbull so it can be made official.
> 
> That being said, nobody is arguing over what the world's largest Eucrite is, 
> or the world's largest Martian is, etc. because nobody is making it a point 
> to market their specimen under those pretenses.  My point being, which is the 
> largest lunar really doesn't  matter to the science of meteorites, or the 
> meteorite world in general, only to those who feel they want to sell under 
> that claim.
> 
> No matter which is the largest, nothing changes the fact that NWA 5000 is a 
> gorgeous meteorite, that people should be lucky to own a specimen of.  I 
> doubt anyone would seriously go about demanding a refund from either of the 
> Hupe's were NWA 10495 proven to  be larger.  NWA 5000 is still a rare 
> beauty...
> 
> Cheers,
> John A. Shea MD
> IMCA 3295
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 6/16/16 at 10:17 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> 
>> This is the Meteoritical Bulletin entry for NWA 10495 :
>> 
>> Northwest Africa 10495 (NWA 10495)
>> Morocco
>> Find: 2015
>> Classification: Lunar meteorite (feldspathic breccia)
>> History: A group of similar stones were found together at an
>> undisclosed location in southern Morocco during 2015.
>> 
>> Physical characteristics: Several grayish brown stones (total weight
>> 15.6 kg) lacking fusion crust, but with a polished external
>> appearance. All exhibit the same overall fine grained texture, with
>> some visible larger whitish clasts within a dark gray matrix.
>> Petrography: (A. Irving and S. Kuehner, UWS) Relatively fine grained
>> fragmental breccia composed of mineral clasts of anorthite, pigeonite,
>> olivine, augite, Ti-chromite and troilite set in a matrix containing
>> minor secondary barite.
>> 
>> Geochemistry: Olivine (Fa34.8-42.3, FeO/MnO = 86-95, N = 4), pigeonite
>> (Fs29.8-32.4Wo8.8-12.9, FeO/MnO = 47-52, N = 3), augite (Fs20.6Wo35.4,
>> FeO/MnO = 49), plagioclase (An96.4-97.1Or0.1, N = 2). Bulk composition
>> (R. Korotev, WUSL) INAA of subsamples gave the following mean
>> abundances: (in wt.%) FeO 7.0, Na2O 0.30; (in ppm) Sc 17.0, La 1.9, Sm
>> 1.0, Eu 0.67, Yb 1.0, Lu 0.15, Hf 0.6, Th 0.15.
>> Classification: Lunar (feldspathic breccia).
>> 
>> Specimens: 24.3 g including one stone polished on one side at UWB; the
>> remaining material is held by the anonymous finders.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Nowhere in this entry is there any mention of a single large mass. In
>> fact, it states that there are several similar stones that were
>> recovered. Unless one is 

Re: [meteorite-list] Invented words

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I see "meteorics" used often to represent the study of meteorites. Shouldn't it 
be meteoritics? Could both ever be acceptable?

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens

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Don't you care about your previous statements concerning the insignificance of 
L6 meteorites? i'm sorry but an l6 from cal will always mean more than  the 
same from AF. How many BUYERS from the mid east are there?. I'm sorry but 
you're assessement of fresh American witnessed falls no matter what the cost is 
BS. Find me some illinois falls/finds other than PF. 

And in all simplicity can you discount one L6 to another in the same thread?

Due Regards,
Bil


From: Bigjohn Shea 
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 8:33 PM
To: bill kies
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, 
Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens

Sorry, but 6 specimens amoung all private collections is rare.  To disagree is 
just being stubborn.



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On 12/7/15 at 9:29 PM, bill kies wrote:

> No person can define rarety. It's an individual decision. You have expressed 
> multiple decisions that are clearly contradictory as well as biased.
>
> Reasearch your own statements.  The Afghan met has less value then any Cal 
> Met for obvious reasons. Wise up
>
> 
> From: Bigjohn Shea 
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:54 PM
> To: bill kies
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, 
> Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens
>
> Nope not contradicting myself at all.
>
> Creston is not historic.  Kandahar is.
>
> Creston is one of a handfull of California falls and there are specimens 
> still available to this day.  Kandahar is one of a kind for Afghanistan, and 
> there are literally only six in private collections.
>
> If you can't see the difference then you aren't understanding what makes a 
> meteorite truly rare and valuable.
>
>
>
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> On 12/7/15 at 8:43 PM, bill kies wrote:
>
> > John,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your consideration but it's always been obvious that you can't 
> > and I mean "CAN'T" discount the personal meaning of any fall/find to anyone 
> > that was awakened to the whole scenario by the event. It's a big deal when 
> > a met falls in your backyard.
> >
> >
> >
> > But you made a big deal about a fresh Cal find that Cal collectors love. I 
> > have to dis your opine as you have contradicted yourself.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Bigjohn Shea 
> >
> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:07 PM
> >
> > To: bill kies
> >
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. 
> > Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > I was selling the Afghan at my cost.  That's the major difference.  I can 
> > count on one finger the number of times I made a profit selling a meteorite.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, the Kandahar meteorite is an historic fall.  The only meteorite from 
> > Afghanistan.  This not some new fall that a merchant overpaid for then 
> > tried to recoupe his expense by selling at too high a price.  There are 
> > only six pieces of Kandahar in private collections.
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/15 at 7:54 PM, bill kies wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Bigjohn" Aren't you the same fellow that made a big deal out of 300 a 
> > > gram for an L6 Cal met and then offered an afhgan L6 met for around 700 a 
> > > g
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: Meteorite-list  on 
> > > behalf of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> > > 
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 5:41 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: Michael Farmer
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Cc: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list; impact...@aol.com; 
> > > valpar...@aol.com
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. 
> > > Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sounds like an outlyer.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The average of the prices available is what I base offers on.  Also 
> > > recently sold prices matter too.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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> > >
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> > >
> >
> > > Sent using the mail.com mail app
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> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On 12/7/15 at 6:38 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Ok. If you say so. I've sold canyon Diablo and Taza at $500 gram on 
> > > > eBay.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
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> > >
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> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Michael Farmer
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> > >
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> > > >
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> > >
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> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> > > > >  wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
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> >

Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Holidays!

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Wesołych Świąt :)



Wesołych Świąt
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 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 20:52:11 -0500
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Holidays!
 From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Thank you Greg,

 And, the same to you and yours.
 Also, the very best to everyone!

 John
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:28 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Holidays!


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[meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

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This is the same old shtick. Just another way to confuse what has to be learned 
the hard way, by educating yourself before considering the purchase of ANY 
meteorite. 


Who or what is trustworthy? It isn't obvious. This sounds like a case that 
allows for confusion and defends chaos rather than finding fault with the 
problems that can never be solved by buying anything other than substantial 
specimens from who/whom at all? Misrepresentation will always be there whether 
intentional or not.


 IMCA was a worthy attempt to establish integrity but in the end the IMCA can 
only control their own. There are endless swindlers in this world and crumb 
buying is an almost certain waste of money. It has and will continue to add 
pollution to meteorite collecting forever.  

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[meteorite-list] Ebay Again!

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Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The 
sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of 
undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers. 


Those that are enthusiastic but on a limited budget. People who peddle these 
worthless pips know full well that the material will never be authenticated so 
they continue relentlessly without question, criticism or the slightest 
regulation because this bs is profitable. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again!

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First, I didn't question your material. I question crumbs in general. Second, 
it shouldn't be the responsibility of the buyer to try and find a lab that 
would be willing to examine crumbs. Crumb sellers know this. So, I think it's 
time for someone to take this task seriously and look at these endless micros. 
IMCA maybe?


I see your footnote about hate. What is that about? 


 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:32:02 -0400
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again!
 From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Bill - Put your money where your mouth is. I have 100 localities of
 crumbs. Test every single one of them and post the results publicly.
 I'll give you a killer one-time discount deal for the purposes of
 testing. Use an XRF gun, microprobe, SEM, nickel test, magnetic
 susceptibility, or whatever method you choose. Just because you have a
 crazy bias against people who collect micromounts (and trade in them),
 doesn't give you any authority to make blanket judgements.

 Yes, buyers should always beware, and this is especially true with
 micro-crumbs that are not easily identified in a visual manner. If
 somebody wants a genuine speck of something rare, they know where to
 go. There are a few of us who are well-known and our sources are
 well-known. I get my crumbs from many of the same big dealers that
 high-budget collectors and institutions acquire material from. I just
 get the remainders and pieces that are too small for their clients and
 purposes. Nothing goes to waste. What do you do with the tiny specks
 and crumbs that fall off the larger specimens during handling? Suck
 it up with a dust-buster and throw it in the landfill?

 Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The
 sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of
 undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers.

 The most vulnerable buyers? Some of my clients have microprobes.

 Haters gonna hate. They see me rolling.

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 Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The
 sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of
 undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers.


 Those that are enthusiastic but on a limited budget. People who peddle these
 worthless pips know full well that the material will never be authenticated
 so they continue relentlessly without question, criticism or the slightest
 regulation because this bs is profitable.
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[meteorite-list] Camelopardalids - What A Bringdown

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:P
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[meteorite-list] Off Topic: Camelopardalids

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The possibility of viewing a meteor storm is exciting, accented by the fact 
that it's a one time only deal. My observation station is set up. Lawn chair, 
beverage table, mosquito spray, etc. High hopes for an extreme light show but 
any appearance will be rewarding!


Eyes uncovered... 
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[meteorite-list] test

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test  
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