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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

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ay: HAH 346

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Hi Bernd,

I've know John for a very long time. This
is very sad indeed. Thank you for
posting this.

Ruben Garcia

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> It is my sad duty to inform you that
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Benzaki Mohamed,
Since you have never reached out to me
about my classification, Nwa 15758
CK6, I politely request that you do not
use this name. I invested time and
resources into having it analyzed and if
you wish to sell your material as
a named meteorite I suggest you do the
same. Thank you in advance.
Jason

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list]

 point out when obvious fakes
>> <https://forums.arrowheads.com/forum/general-discussion-gc5/what-did-i-find-gc11/683620-tiger-tail-meteorite/page2>
>> surface.
>>
>> Mark's only been doing meteorite-related stuff for a few years and he has
>> no related background.  I'd expect some mishaps from anyone in those
>> circumstances.  I guess as long as Mark refunds people when it happens,
>> like he did with John, it's not really unethical for Mark to berate anyone
>> who points out that he's sold misrepresented material?  I don't understand
>> it, but it won't stop me.  I have no qualms about publicly posting any
>> other bad IDs I see, and insults he throws out, so that you all can see the
>> kind of guy he is, too.
>>
>> I suppose it's not really that simple, because some misrepresented
>> material is still going to get into circulation, which is a problem...
>> Maybe some of the more experienced members in the Global Meteorite
>> Association (GMA) can help Mark sort it out?  I don't know.  What's
>> supposed to happen with NWA 14743 now?  I'm seeing active listings of what
>> looks to me like at least two different meteorites, sold listings for both
>> going back at least a year...pieces for sale on websites like
>> www.meteorites-for-sale.com, sold pieces there...  It looks like a real
>> headache.  I wouldn't know where to begin.
>>
>> As Mendy said, caveat emptor.  Always.  IMCA, GMA, me, doesn't matter.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 7:50 PM Mark Lyon 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason Humboldt,
>>>
>>> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas.  He has been doing this
>>> for years.  He  isnt going to change.  You should have seen some of the
>>> messages he sent me before i blocked him.  The first time I met him he went
>>> in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza
>>> (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was
>>> just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking
>>> dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites.  More recently,
>>> he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin.
>>> Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months
>>> travelling and collecting the materials.  He always thinks he is right, and
>>> he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller.
>>> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a
>>> single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with
>>> common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and
>>> jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't
>>> read his whole message because I have heard it all before.   Collectors
>>> want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite.  People are
>>> not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they
>>> are selling.  It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these
>>> names.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend
>>>> on your reply.
>>>>
>>>> Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me
>>>> as a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best
>>>> practices.  Having autism I often struggle to understand people's
>>>> intention.  Many times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's
>>>> actions.  So one of my strategies is to try to think of the best possible
>>>> intention that someone could have.  I admit sometimes it is difficult with
>>>> your approach (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not
>>>> sound I came to reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against
>>>> Benzaki Mohamed and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face".  A
>>>> fierce sense of justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part
>>>> of my condition so I was able to have sympathy with this realization.  Now
>>>> that you have responded I can more clearly see your intention.  So here is
>>>> my considered response.
>>>>
>>>> To the community:  I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list]

28-55-n-7-36-/a/8096-72175.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515>.
>  After I let them know that the specimen was not Tissint, Heritage
> amended the listing before the auction, and I'm glad to see that they
> sorted it out ethically with the buyer afterwards.  Heritage had the
> stone analyzed, and its description shows that the stone is *not* an
> olivine-phyric basalt, and is *not* Tissint.  I've caught a number of
> issues like that for major auction houses, but they almost never wind up
> published and identifiable like that.  And I’m still curious about who
> tried to list that stone as Tissint…
>
> There are two problems in a large meteorite auction scheduled for next
> month.  I don't want to name the auction, but you can probably figure it
> out.  The specimens are 100% misidentified.  *Can you spot them? *
>
> I don't know how many of my IDs have been analytically confirmed, but I
> can say that many have been
> <https://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ashcreekzunhua.png> 
> (also
> NWA 11889, and others).  I can't quote a correct/incorrect rate, because
> it's not clear-cut; I've voiced concerns about material when I haven't been
> certain that it was misrepresented -- like this Omolon.  I don't think you
> can really be right or wrong if you say "I think this looks off, does
> anyone have any details on it?"  Asking that should be fine in a community
> like ours, where so much material gets both intentionally and
> unintentionally mislabeled.  If a specimen looks weird, or wrong, or
> whatever, people should be allowed to question it, and that should be
> okay.  And it should also be okay to point out when obvious fakes
> <https://forums.arrowheads.com/forum/general-discussion-gc5/what-did-i-find-gc11/683620-tiger-tail-meteorite/page2>
> surface.
>
> Mark's only been doing meteorite-related stuff for a few years and he has
> no related background.  I'd expect some mishaps from anyone in those
> circumstances.  I guess as long as Mark refunds people when it happens,
> like he did with John, it's not really unethical for Mark to berate anyone
> who points out that he's sold misrepresented material?  I don't understand
> it, but it won't stop me.  I have no qualms about publicly posting any
> other bad IDs I see, and insults he throws out, so that you all can see the
> kind of guy he is, too.
>
> I suppose it's not really that simple, because some misrepresented
> material is still going to get into circulation, which is a problem...
> Maybe some of the more experienced members in the Global Meteorite
> Association (GMA) can help Mark sort it out?  I don't know.  What's
> supposed to happen with NWA 14743 now?  I'm seeing active listings of what
> looks to me like at least two different meteorites, sold listings for both
> going back at least a year...pieces for sale on websites like
> www.meteorites-for-sale.com, sold pieces there...  It looks like a real
> headache.  I wouldn't know where to begin.
>
> As Mendy said, caveat emptor.  Always.  IMCA, GMA, me, doesn't matter.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 7:50 PM Mark Lyon 
> wrote:
>
>> Jason Humboldt,
>>
>> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas.  He has been doing this
>> for years.  He  isnt going to change.  You should have seen some of the
>> messages he sent me before i blocked him.  The first time I met him he went
>> in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza
>> (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was
>> just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking
>> dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites.  More recently,
>> he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin.
>> Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months
>> travelling and collecting the materials.  He always thinks he is right, and
>> he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller.
>> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a
>> single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with
>> common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and
>> jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't
>> read his whole message because I have heard it all before.   Collectors
>> want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite.  People are
>> not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they
>> are selling.  It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these
>> names.
>>
>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list]

Since the GMA <https://gmeta.org/>  and I were mentioned at the end of the post 
below, I will make the following points.

1.  Mark Lyon is a member in good standing of the Global Meteorite 
Association.
2.  The GMA’s responsibility only begins when a formal complaint 
<https://gmeta.org/community/complaints>  has been lodged against a member.

 

These are to be interpreted as two independently statement of facts and nothing 
more. 

 

Regards to all,

 

Mendy

 

From: Meteorite-list  On Behalf Of 
Jason Utas via Meteorite-list
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 2:03 PM
To: Mark Lyon 
Cc: Meteorite-list ; humboldt bay jay 

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

 

Hello Everyone,

Sorry for the late reply - it's spring break, and the rocks don't find 
themselves.  

It's hard to disagree with common sense.  Unfortunately, Mark has already made 
at least a few pretty bad common sense pairing mistakes that I'm pretty sure 
have put misrepresented material into circulation.  Like this one 
<https://i.imgur.com/dqkqk05.jpg> , where Mark decided that an unclassified 
~CV3 was paired with another dealer's published CR2.  And this one 
<https://i.imgur.com/A0y83Tj.jpg> , where Mark decided that a CV3 was paired 
with what sure looks to me like an unpaired carbonaceous chondrite.  More on 
these meteorites below.  


Mark mentioned some of our past conversations.  I agree: they were pretty 
crazy, but I wouldn't say it's because of anything I said.  I guess it's a good 
thing I saved them all, and can share them with you.  


Let's get right to it.  

In mid-January of 2023, I let John Humphreys know, in private, that some “Erg 
Chech 003" "CR2” slices he was offering on eBay looked to be swapped with a 
~CV3.  John's one of the few dealers I would trust to handle an issue like that 
honestly and quickly.  Given the texture of the stone and its abundant CAIs, it 
couldn't have been a CR2.  Not possible.  A photo of the material speaks for 
itself <https://i.imgur.com/dqkqk05.jpg> : a real specimen of Erg Chech 003 is 
on the right.  To his credit, John immediately pulled the slices he'd listed.  
I had no way of knowing it at the time, but Mark had sold John this 
unclassified meteorite as the published CR2 Erg Chech 003 
<https://imgur.com/a/47qmQK7> .  Unfortunately, by the time I'd messaged John 
about the problem, some amount of the ~CV3 had already been sold on by a few of 
the dealers who routinely distribute Mark's material, and you can still find 
some of those unclassified ~CV3 slices in circulation as CR2s / Erg Chech 003 
<https://5dhealingcrystals.com/products/pallasite-meteorite-erg-chech> .  Not 
great. 

Had I said nothing, there's no reason to think anyone else would have caught 
the misrepresented material, and the rest of that ~CV3 would have been sold as 
the CR2.  Mark keeps telling people I'm often wrong, but...he admitted to the 
problem in private and refunded John <https://i.imgur.com/lUWiP9q.png> .  Hm. 

I would add: I don't blame John Humphreys for what happened with the fake Erg 
Chech 003.  It's not reasonable to expect everyone to be able to ID a 
carbonaceous chondrite by sight, especially based on just a few small slices.  
Someone classifying and selling new, unclassified meteorites has a greater 
burden of responsibility than someone who thinks they're buying a documented 
meteorite from a reputable dealer.  Ultimately, Mark was the one who put those 
specimens into circulation labelled as something they weren't.  It should have 
been safe for John to trust him.  

 

This "Erg Chech 003" ~CV3 is also a perfect example of Mark's ‘rules for thee 
but not for me.’  Mark argued in his email that Benzaki Mohamed's use of Jason 
Whitcomb's NWA number was different from Taza, Jikharra 001, etc., because 
Whitcomb's CK was "probably a single person classification with low total known 
weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different from huge 
finds." 


Well, let's look up Erg Chech 003 
<https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=74840> .  How many tonnes is 
it?  It has a TKW of...just 1.1 kilograms.  Oh.  That's...really small.  And 
it's owned by...two dealers who often collaborate with each other.  Not Mark.  
So...not only did Mark use someone else's DCA number from a small find -- he 
screwed up the pairing when doing it and put misidentified material into 
circulation.  ...I guess "common sense" rules only apply to everyone else.  Not 
Mark Lyon.  

 

Let's turn the clock back to January 2023 for a moment.  When I first notified 
John about the issue with the fake Erg Chech 003, I had no idea the material 
had even come from Mark.  How could I?  Erg Chech 003 wasn't even "his 
classification."  I didn't know it yet, but John had forwarded my messages to 
Mark, letting him know I was the one who had raised the i

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Jason Utas via Meteorite-list]

Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months
> travelling and collecting the materials.  He always thinks he is right, and
> he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller.
> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a
> single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with
> common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and
> jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't
> read his whole message because I have heard it all before.   Collectors
> want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite.  People are
> not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they
> are selling.  It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these
> names.
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on
>> your reply.
>>
>> Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as
>> a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices.
>> Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention.  Many
>> times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions.  So one of
>> my strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that
>> someone could have.  I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach
>> (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to
>> reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed
>> and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face".  A fierce sense of
>> justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition
>> so I was able to have sympathy with this realization.  Now that you have
>> responded I can more clearly see your intention.  So here is my considered
>> response.
>>
>> To the community:  I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that
>> I can.  If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am
>> happy to look at any information and give my honest response.  It would be
>> unethical and dirty feeling to do otherwise.  I have not made it to where I
>> am in life by acting in short term interests.  Relationships are life long.
>>
>> To Benzaki Mohamed:  I am sorry if I shamed you.  I am often blunt and
>> act quickly.  Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you
>> in private first.  If you send me images or any supporting information I am
>> happy to give you my honest opinion.  You would then have my full support
>> marketing the material as paired if it checks out.
>>
>> To Jason: I forgive you.  I know what it is like to have conflict with
>> the world.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:50 PM Jason Utas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Jason,
>>>
>>> As long as material is described accurately, I don't care what you do.
>>> I only butted in here because it annoyed me to see you attacking a Moroccan
>>> seller who is probably selling accurately paired material, while you’re
>>> openly doing the same thing with other meteorites.  Glass house + throwing
>>> stones, not cool.
>>>
>>> I'm saying that it *should* be fine for you to buy and sell HaH 346 and
>>> Jikharra 001 as those meteorites as long as you've accurately IDd them.
>>> But not if you're going to tell other people they can't do the same thing.
>>> That's the rub.
>>>
>>> Your points -
>>>
>>> 1 & 4)  Why does it matter where you got your HaH 346?  It didn't matter
>>> to you where Benzaki got his NWA 15758.
>>>
>>> Your posts didn't address the origin of Benzaki Mohamed's CK in any
>>> way, or whether or not his material is paired with NWA 15758.  Based on
>>> everything you've shared here, you don't know or care about whether or not
>>> Benzaki's material is paired with yours.  Your concern is "your NWA number"
>>> and protecting that investment. I can empathize with that, but your #1 and
>>> #4 bullet points don't agree with your actions:
>>>
>>> Did you ask Benzaki where his material had come from before you sent
>>> that public complaint?  No.  Did you confirm that it came from a different
>>> finder, the same place, or a different place?  N

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list]

She could be talking about me. I was being very disrespectful.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 7:00 PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hello Anne,
>
>   In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but
> had different views of
>  several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points
> and the results.
>
>   Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List,
> Brilliant!!
> John Lutzon
>
> > On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey Everybody,
> >
> > When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider
> resolving it PRIVATELY?
> >
> >
> > Anne Black
> > IMPACTIKA.com
> > impact...@aol.com
> >
> >
> > On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via
> Meteorite-list  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make
> the following 3 statements + 1 opinion:
> >   1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a
> nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please
> contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was
> part of the TKW of NWA 15758.
> >   2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The
> Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency:
> https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed
> could have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I
> personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his
> transparency.
> >   3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers
> material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so.
> They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to
> sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms
> of the transaction, there is no injury to either party.
> >
> > My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot
> know every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business
> with sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have
> ill intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.
> >
> > My regards to the community,
> >
> > Mendy
> >
> > From:Meteorite-list  On
> Behalf OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
> > To: humboldt bay jay 
> > Cc: Meteorite-list 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
> >
> > Jason Humboldt,
> >
> > You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this
> for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the
> messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went
> in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza
> (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was
> just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking
> dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he
> made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not
> caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling
> and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very
> seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You
> politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a
> single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with
> common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and
> jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't
> read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors want
> to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are not
> using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they are
> selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these
> names.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > > I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend
> on your reply.
> > >
> > > Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me
> as a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best
> practices. Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention.
> Many times I have gone wrong assuming the worst

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

  Shannon,

  And?   Don't tease us---who had more fun?--you or the kids?
Which pallasite?
   Best, John 

> On 03/23/2024 10:32 PM EDT Hotmail  wrote:
> 
>  
> All,
> 
> I have been a member for around bit over a year— ever since I bought my first 
> meteorite, an end chunk of Pallasite.  I took that meteorite to my daughter’s 
> eight grade class and presented to the entire class, passing it around.  It 
> was a really enjoyable experience for me.
> 
> Anyway I just wanted to say that I learned a ton from that email chain over 
> the past few days!!
> 
> Shannon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 23, 2024, at 22:00, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Anne,
> > 
> >  In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had 
> > different views of
> > several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and 
> > the results.  
> > 
> >  Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, 
> > Brilliant!!
> > John Lutzon
> > 
> >> On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hey Everybody,
> >> 
> >> When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider 
> >> resolving it PRIVATELY?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Anne Black
> >> IMPACTIKA.com
> >> impact...@aol.com
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via 
> >> Meteorite-list  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the 
> >> following 3 statements + 1 opinion:
> >>  1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a 
> >> nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please 
> >> contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was 
> >> part of the TKW of NWA 15758.
> >>  2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The 
> >> Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: 
> >> https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could 
> >> have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I 
> >> personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his 
> >> transparency.
> >>  3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers 
> >> material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. 
> >> They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to 
> >> sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms 
> >> of the transaction, there is no injury to either party.
> >> 
> >> My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know 
> >> every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with 
> >> sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill 
> >> intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.
> >> 
> >> My regards to the community,
> >> 
> >> Mendy
> >> 
> >> From:Meteorite-list  On 
> >> Behalf OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
> >> To: humboldt bay jay 
> >> Cc: Meteorite-list 
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
> >> 
> >> Jason Humboldt,
> >> 
> >> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for 
> >> years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages 
> >> he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my 
> >> display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 
> >> 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just 
> >> using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin 
> >> Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made 
> >> damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not 
> >> caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months 
> >> travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and 
> >> he very seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. 
> >> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a 
> >> single person classification with low tot

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

  Ha, ha,
 Mark, do not feel honored, she talks about me too. ;-)
  I'm sure, on other social meteorite platforms things are very busy, busy, and 
great for business. 
  For some not in the groove, but here, it would be great for anyone to throw 
up anything meteorite
  and we'll see where the meteorites fall. I sometime reply in an unusual 
manner--
  and then just blame it on Anne.
JL 

> On 03/23/2024 10:09 PM EDT Mark Lyon  wrote:
> 
> 
> She could be talking about me. I was being very disrespectful.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 7:00 PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> > Hello Anne,
> >  
> >  In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had 
> > different views of
> >  several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and 
> > the results. 
> >  
> >  Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, 
> > Brilliant!!
> >  John Lutzon 
> >  
> >  > On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > Hey Everybody,
> >  > 
> >  > When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider 
> > resolving it PRIVATELY?
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > Anne Black
> >  > IMPACTIKA.com
> >  > impact...@aol.com
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via 
> > Meteorite-list  wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make 
> > the following 3 statements + 1 opinion:
> >  > 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a 
> > nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please 
> > contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was 
> > part of the TKW of NWA 15758.
> >  > 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The 
> > Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: 
> > https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could 
> > have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I 
> > personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his 
> > transparency.
> >  > 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers 
> > material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. 
> > They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to 
> > sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms 
> > of the transaction, there is no injury to either party.
> >  > 
> >  > My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot 
> > know every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business 
> > with sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have 
> > ill intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.
> >  > 
> >  > My regards to the community,
> >  > 
> >  > Mendy
> >  > 
> >  > From:Meteorite-list  On 
> > Behalf OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list
> >  > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
> >  > To: humboldt bay jay 
> >  > Cc: Meteorite-list 
> >  > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
> >  > 
> >  > Jason Humboldt,
> >  > 
> >  > You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this 
> > for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the 
> > messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went 
> > in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza 
> > (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was 
> > just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking 
> > dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he 
> > made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not 
> > caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling 
> > and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very 
> > seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You 
> > politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a 
> > single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with 
> > common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and 
> > jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he compl

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Hotmail via Meteorite-list]

All,

I have been a member for around bit over a year— ever since I bought my first 
meteorite, an end chunk of Pallasite.  I took that meteorite to my daughter’s 
eight grade class and presented to the entire class, passing it around.  It was 
a really enjoyable experience for me.

Anyway I just wanted to say that I learned a ton from that email chain over the 
past few days!!

Shannon

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2024, at 22:00, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne,
> 
>  In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had 
> different views of
> several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and 
> the results.  
> 
>  Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, 
> Brilliant!!
> John Lutzon
> 
>> On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Everybody,
>> 
>> When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider resolving 
>> it PRIVATELY?
>> 
>> 
>> Anne Black
>> IMPACTIKA.com
>> impact...@aol.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via 
>> Meteorite-list  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the 
>> following 3 statements + 1 opinion:
>>  1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice 
>> carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” 
>> Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW 
>> of NWA 15758.
>>  2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The 
>> Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: 
>> https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could 
>> have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally 
>> did not see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency.
>>  3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material 
>> for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are 
>> under no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As 
>> long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the 
>> transaction, there is no injury to either party.
>> 
>> My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know 
>> every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with 
>> sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill 
>> intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.
>> 
>> My regards to the community,
>> 
>> Mendy
>> 
>> From:Meteorite-list  On Behalf 
>> OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
>> To: humboldt bay jay 
>> Cc: Meteorite-list 
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
>> 
>> Jason Humboldt,
>> 
>> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for 
>> years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he 
>> sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display 
>> room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) 
>> because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using 
>> it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens 
>> (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging 
>> accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it 
>> affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting 
>> the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is. For the 
>> record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to 
>> use your classification, which was probably a single person classification 
>> with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is 
>> different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and 
>> whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I 
>> have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, 
>> and not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest 
>> but to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the 
>> community a disservice not to use these names.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>&g

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

Hello Anne,

  In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had 
different views of
 several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and the 
results.  
  
  Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, 
Brilliant!!
John Lutzon

> On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Everybody,
> 
> When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider resolving 
> it PRIVATELY?
> 
> 
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via 
> Meteorite-list  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the 
> following 3 statements + 1 opinion:
>   1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice 
> carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” 
> Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW 
> of NWA 15758.
>   2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The 
> Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: 
> https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could 
> have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally 
> did not see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency.
>   3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material 
> for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are 
> under no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As long 
> as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the 
> transaction, there is no injury to either party.
> 
> My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know 
> every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with 
> sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill 
> intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.
> 
> My regards to the community,
> 
> Mendy
> 
> From:Meteorite-list  On Behalf 
> OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
> To: humboldt bay jay 
> Cc: Meteorite-list 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
> 
> Jason Humboldt,
> 
> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for 
> years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he 
> sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display 
> room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) 
> because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it 
> as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a 
> friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging 
> accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it 
> affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting 
> the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is. For the 
> record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to 
> use your classification, which was probably a single person classification 
> with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is 
> different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and 
> whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I 
> have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, and 
> not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest but 
> to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the community 
> a disservice not to use these names.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> > I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on 
> > your reply.
> > 
> > Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a 
> > hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices. 
> > Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. Many times 
> > I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions. So one of my 
> > strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that someone 
> > could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach (and 
> > attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to reason 
> > that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed and 
> > you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face"

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Hey Everybody,
When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider resolving it 
PRIVATELY?   
Anne blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com
 

On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via 
Meteorite-list  wrote:  
 
 
I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the 
following 3 statements + 1 opinion:
   
   - Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice 
carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” 
Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW of 
NWA 15758.
   - This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The Global 
Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: 
https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could have 
use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally did not 
see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency.
   - On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material 
for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are under 
no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As long as both 
parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the transaction, there 
is no injury to either party. 

  

My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know 
every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with 
sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill 
intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.

  

My regards to the community,

  

Mendy

  

From: Meteorite-list  On Behalf Of 
Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
To: humboldt bay jay 
Cc: Meteorite-list 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

  

Jason Humboldt,

  

You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas.  He has been doing this for 
years.  He  isnt going to change.  You should have seen some of the messages he 
sent me before i blocked him.  The first time I met him he went in my display 
room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) because 
it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it as an 
example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a friend 
of mine) for pairing meteorites.  More recently, he made damaging accusations 
about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it affected a 
Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting the 
materials.  He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is.    For the 
record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to use 
your classification, which was probably a single person classification with low 
total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different 
from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he 
complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I have heard it all 
before.   Collectors want to know they are getting these, and not another 
meteorite.  People are not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately 
describe what they are selling.  It would be doing the community a disservice 
not to use these names.  

  

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on your 
reply.

Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a 
hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices.  
Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention.  Many times I 
have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions.  So one of my 
strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that someone could 
have.  I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach (and attempt to 
shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to reason that you saw 
an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed and you felt the need 
to "punch the bully in his face".  A fierce sense of justice that sometimes 
leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition so I was able to have 
sympathy with this realization.  Now that you have responded I can more clearly 
see your intention.  So here is my considered response.

  

To the community:  I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that I can. 
 If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am happy to 
look at any information and give my honest response.  It would be unethical and 
dirty feeling to do otherwise.  I have not made it to where I am in life by 
acting in short term interests.  Relationships are life long.

  

To Benzaki Mohamed:  I am sorry if I shamed you.  I am often blunt and act 
quickly.  Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you in 
private first.  If y

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list]

I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the 
following 3 statements + 1 opinion:

1.  Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a 
nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte 
me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the 
TKW of NWA 15758.
2.  This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The 
Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: 
https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could have 
use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally did not 
see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency.
3.  On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material 
for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are under 
no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As long as both 
parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the transaction, there 
is no injury to either party. 

 

My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know 
every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with 
sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill 
intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor.

 

My regards to the community,

 

Mendy

 

From: Meteorite-list  On Behalf Of 
Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM
To: humboldt bay jay 
Cc: Meteorite-list 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

 

Jason Humboldt,

 

You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas.  He has been doing this for 
years.  He  isnt going to change.  You should have seen some of the messages he 
sent me before i blocked him.  The first time I met him he went in my display 
room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) because 
it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it as an 
example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a friend 
of mine) for pairing meteorites.  More recently, he made damaging accusations 
about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it affected a 
Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting the 
materials.  He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is.For the 
record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to use 
your classification, which was probably a single person classification with low 
total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different 
from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he 
complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I have heard it all 
before.   Collectors want to know they are getting these, and not another 
meteorite.  People are not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately 
describe what they are selling.  It would be doing the community a disservice 
not to use these names.  

 

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list 
mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > wrote:

I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on your 
reply.

Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a 
hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices.  
Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention.  Many times I 
have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions.  So one of my 
strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that someone could 
have.  I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach (and attempt to 
shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to reason that you saw 
an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed and you felt the need 
to "punch the bully in his face".  A fierce sense of justice that sometimes 
leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition so I was able to have 
sympathy with this realization.  Now that you have responded I can more clearly 
see your intention.  So here is my considered response.

 

To the community:  I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that I can. 
 If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am happy to 
look at any information and give my honest response.  It would be unethical and 
dirty feeling to do otherwise.  I have not made it to where I am in life by 
acting in short term interests.  Relationships are life long.

 

To Benzaki Mohamed:  I am sorry if I shamed you.  I am often blunt and act 
quickly.  Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you in 
private first.  If you send me images or any supporting information I am happy 
to give you my honest opinion.  You would then have my full support marketing 
the material as paired if it checks out.

 

To Jason: I forgive y

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list]

Jason Humboldt,

You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas.  He has been doing this for
years.  He  isnt going to change.  You should have seen some of the
messages he sent me before i blocked him.  The first time I met him he went
in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza
(nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was
just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking
dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites.  More recently,
he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin.
Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months
travelling and collecting the materials.  He always thinks he is right, and
he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller.
You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a
single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with
common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and
jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't
read his whole message because I have heard it all before.   Collectors
want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite.  People are
not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they
are selling.  It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these
names.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on
> your reply.
>
> Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a
> hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices.
> Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention.  Many
> times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions.  So one of
> my strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that
> someone could have.  I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach
> (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to
> reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed
> and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face".  A fierce sense of
> justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition
> so I was able to have sympathy with this realization.  Now that you have
> responded I can more clearly see your intention.  So here is my considered
> response.
>
> To the community:  I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that I
> can.  If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am
> happy to look at any information and give my honest response.  It would be
> unethical and dirty feeling to do otherwise.  I have not made it to where I
> am in life by acting in short term interests.  Relationships are life long.
>
> To Benzaki Mohamed:  I am sorry if I shamed you.  I am often blunt and act
> quickly.  Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you in
> private first.  If you send me images or any supporting information I am
> happy to give you my honest opinion.  You would then have my full support
> marketing the material as paired if it checks out.
>
> To Jason: I forgive you.  I know what it is like to have conflict with the
> world.
>
> Best regards,
> Jason
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:50 PM Jason Utas  wrote:
>
>> Hello Jason,
>>
>> As long as material is described accurately, I don't care what you do.  I
>> only butted in here because it annoyed me to see you attacking a Moroccan
>> seller who is probably selling accurately paired material, while you’re
>> openly doing the same thing with other meteorites.  Glass house + throwing
>> stones, not cool.
>>
>> I'm saying that it *should* be fine for you to buy and sell HaH 346 and
>> Jikharra 001 as those meteorites as long as you've accurately IDd them.
>> But not if you're going to tell other people they can't do the same thing.
>> That's the rub.
>>
>> Your points -
>>
>> 1 & 4)  Why does it matter where you got your HaH 346?  It didn't matter
>> to you where Benzaki got his NWA 15758.
>>
>> Your posts didn't address the origin of Benzaki Mohamed's CK in any
>> way, or whether or not his material is paired with NWA 15758.  Based on
>> everything you've shared here, you don't know or care about whether or not
>> Benzaki's material is paired with yours.  Your concern is "your NWA number"
>> and protecting that investment. I can empathize with that, but your #1 and
>> #4 bullet points don't agree with your actions:
>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list]

ce between multi ton finds that have ample
>> documentation and a kilo find that has had little publicity.  Even then I
>> agree that best practices are to communicate leading me to
>>
>> 3. Point out that you were part of one of my conversations about this in
>> regard to the likely Jikharra specimen you are referencing.  You stated
>> that "The Jikharra’s obviously that."  You are also well aware that I am
>> not selling any of the obviously Jikharra until my own classification is
>> approved because you were part of the discussion.
>>
>> 4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material because you did
>> not ask.  For example the metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as
>> Ghadamis that was not in Marcin's possession.  Since I bought and traded
>> Ghadamis before the name HaH 346 was approved, how do you think I should
>> have handled the situation differently?
>>
>> 5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from the metbul "At
>> least 2 metric tons of material comprising thousands of individuals has
>> been sold under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco and around
>> the world." along with the appropriate caveats due to its abundance- 
>> "Scientists
>> are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens they obtain
>> before publishing results under this name."   So again I do not feel you
>> are making an apples to apples comparison with your critique of my logic.
>>
>> We all obviously respect your encyclopedic understanding of meteorites so
>> perhaps you can share with us your framework for best practices in these
>> situations.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Jason,
>>> To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens
>>> you have listed for sale on your website.  Those classifications were
>>> submitted by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from
>>> DCAs with no evidence of their find locations, etc.
>>> On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely
>>> Jakharra 001 Pairing."  Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it
>>> should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758
>>> pairings."
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me.  I appreciate
>>>> your attention to this matter.  All is good.
>>>> Best regards to everyone,
>>>> Jason Whitcomb
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM <
>>>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to
>>>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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>>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>
>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>>> meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com
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>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>>> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com)
>>>>>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia)
>>>>>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700
>>>>> From: 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>>> Message-ID: 
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>>>
>>>>> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346
>>>>>
>>>>> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer
>>>>>
>

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Jason Utas via Meteorite-list]

ink
one is wrong, then the other should be, too.  I don't have an issue with
folks doing that as long as there's no doubt that the ID is correct, but
I'm also not the one attacking someone else for doing it. Case in point: I
agree that your large eucrite looks to be paired with Jikharra 001.  But,
if you're going to play that card, and post it as "likely paired" on your
website, it should be fine for Benzaki to say the same thing about his CK /
NWA 15758 if he believes it.  Right?  If not, you're holding Benzaki to a
higher standard than yourself.

By now, you've had some time to look into this.  Did you ask for photos of
Benzaki's CK?  Did you figure out if his lot is from the same area as
yours?  From the same finder?  Do they look like the same material?  Do you
think they're paired?  What is the real TKW of NWA 15758?  Is it just the
~1 kg in the Bulletin?  How much more is out there?  None?  Just this one
lot?  More?

You asked me what I would do.  If it were my meteorite, I'd want to know.
And I wouldn't want to hide that information from potential buyers.  I
don't think that would be honest.

If it turned out that Benzaki was right about the pairing, you attacked him
for correctly labeling a meteorite.  I'd say you should probably apologize
to him.

Sorry this got so long.

Jason

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 8:03 PM humboldt bay jay 
wrote:

> I am sending this again as I realized I only replied to you and not the
> list as well.  This turns out good for me because it offers a chance to
> better compose my thoughts.  I was running errands when I sent the first
> email.  To begin again:
>
> Jason,
> I see what you are saying, and it is a reasonable point but I disagree.
> These are the reasons:
>
> 1. I can elaborate that "since you never contacted me" means I would have
> been happy to provide assistance and the name if the vendor would have done
> so with some images of supporting information such as sourcing from the
> same finder.
>
> 2. There is a clear difference between multi ton finds that have ample
> documentation and a kilo find that has had little publicity.  Even then I
> agree that best practices are to communicate leading me to
>
> 3. Point out that you were part of one of my conversations about this in
> regard to the likely Jikharra specimen you are referencing.  You stated
> that "The Jikharra’s obviously that."  You are also well aware that I am
> not selling any of the obviously Jikharra until my own classification is
> approved because you were part of the discussion.
>
> 4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material because you did not
> ask.  For example the metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as Ghadamis
> that was not in Marcin's possession.  Since I bought and traded Ghadamis
> before the name HaH 346 was approved, how do you think I should have
> handled the situation differently?
>
> 5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from the metbul "At least
> 2 metric tons of material comprising thousands of individuals has been sold
> under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco and around the
> world." along with the appropriate caveats due to its abundance- "Scientists
> are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens they obtain
> before publishing results under this name."   So again I do not feel you
> are making an apples to apples comparison with your critique of my logic.
>
> We all obviously respect your encyclopedic understanding of meteorites so
> perhaps you can share with us your framework for best practices in these
> situations.
>
> Best regards,
> Jason
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas  wrote:
>
>> Hello Jason,
>> To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens you
>> have listed for sale on your website.  Those classifications were submitted
>> by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from DCAs with
>> no evidence of their find locations, etc.
>> On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely
>> Jakharra 001 Pairing."  Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it
>> should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758
>> pairings."
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me.  I appreciate
>>> your attention to this matter.  All is good.
>>> Best regards to everyone,
>>> Jason Whitcomb
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM <
>>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>&

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list]

I am sending this again as I realized I only replied to you and not the
list as well.  This turns out good for me because it offers a chance to
better compose my thoughts.  I was running errands when I sent the first
email.  To begin again:

Jason,
I see what you are saying, and it is a reasonable point but I disagree.
These are the reasons:

1. I can elaborate that "since you never contacted me" means I would have
been happy to provide assistance and the name if the vendor would have done
so with some images of supporting information such as sourcing from the
same finder.

2. There is a clear difference between multi ton finds that have ample
documentation and a kilo find that has had little publicity.  Even then I
agree that best practices are to communicate leading me to

3. Point out that you were part of one of my conversations about this in
regard to the likely Jikharra specimen you are referencing.  You stated
that "The Jikharra’s obviously that."  You are also well aware that I am
not selling any of the obviously Jikharra until my own classification is
approved because you were part of the discussion.

4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material because you did not
ask.  For example the metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as Ghadamis
that was not in Marcin's possession.  Since I bought and traded Ghadamis
before the name HaH 346 was approved, how do you think I should have
handled the situation differently?

5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from the metbul "At least 2
metric tons of material comprising thousands of individuals has been sold
under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco and around the
world." along with the appropriate caveats due to its abundance- "Scientists
are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens they obtain
before publishing results under this name."   So again I do not feel you
are making an apples to apples comparison with your critique of my logic.

We all obviously respect your encyclopedic understanding of meteorites so
perhaps you can share with us your framework for best practices in these
situations.

Best regards,
Jason

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas  wrote:

> Hello Jason,
> To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens you
> have listed for sale on your website.  Those classifications were submitted
> by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from DCAs with
> no evidence of their find locations, etc.
> On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely
> Jakharra 001 Pairing."  Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it
> should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758
> pairings."
> Regards,
> Jason
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me.  I appreciate
>> your attention to this matter.  All is good.
>> Best regards to everyone,
>> Jason Whitcomb
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM <
>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to
>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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>>> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..."
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>>>
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>>>
>>>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com)
>>>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia)
>>>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700
>>> From: 
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>
>>> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346
>>>
>>> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer
>>>
>>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/14/2024
>>>
>>>
>>> ------
>>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[Jason Utas via Meteorite-list]

Hello Jason,
To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens you
have listed for sale on your website.  Those classifications were submitted
by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from DCAs with
no evidence of their find locations, etc.
On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely
Jakharra 001 Pairing."  Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it
should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758
pairings."
Regards,
Jason

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me.  I appreciate
> your attention to this matter.  All is good.
> Best regards to everyone,
> Jason Whitcomb
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM <
> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com)
>>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia)
>>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700
>> From: 
>> To: 
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346
>>
>> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer
>>
>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/14/2024
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:17:06 -0700
>> From: Ruben Garcia 
>> To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
>> Cc: Meteorite Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very sad news
>> Message-ID:
>> > jxhjti60uojwdgvdoreuf4jfjd7paim...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi Bernd,
>>
>> I've know John for a very long time. This is very sad indeed. Thank you
>> for
>> posting this.
>>
>> Ruben Garcia
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 4:03?PM bernd.pauli--- via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear List,
>> >
>> > It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-(
>> >
>> > John, rest in peace!
>> >
>> > Bernd
>> > ______
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>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:53:43 -0700
>> From: humboldt bay jay 
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Benzaki Mohamed,
>> Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758
>> CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and
>> resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as
>> a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance.
>> Jason
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29?PM <
>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to
>> > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15

[humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list]

Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me.  I appreciate
your attention to this matter.  All is good.
Best regards to everyone,
Jason Whitcomb

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM <
meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to
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>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia)
>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346
>
> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer
>
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/14/2024
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:17:06 -0700
> From: Ruben Garcia 
> To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> Cc: Meteorite Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very sad news
> Message-ID:
>  jxhjti60uojwdgvdoreuf4jfjd7paim...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Bernd,
>
> I've know John for a very long time. This is very sad indeed. Thank you for
> posting this.
>
> Ruben Garcia
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 4:03?PM bernd.pauli--- via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-(
> >
> > John, rest in peace!
> >
> > Bernd
> > __
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:53:43 -0700
> From: humboldt bay jay 
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Benzaki Mohamed,
> Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758
> CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and
> resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as
> a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance.
> Jason
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29?PM <
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14

[Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list]

After reading this email, I would expect Mr. Mohamed to retract his
previous email as it does not appear that his material has been
authenticated by a proper researcher.  Making claims about material that
hasn't properly been identified is not something to be taken lightly and
would be cause for concern to most collectors, self included.

Rhett Bourland

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 3:43 PM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Benzaki Mohamed,
> Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758
> CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and
> resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as
> a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance.
> Jason
>
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>>4. Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS
>>   2014-01-08 Disputed (Paul)
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>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700
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>> To: 
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>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> Wednesday, Mar 13 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Hamlet
>>
>> Contributed by: Anne Black
>>
>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/13/2024
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 22:16:15 +
>> From: Benzaki Mohamed 
>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite carbon
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> cagzkz4-7hufr2n7mzy4hapufexcssju66gn+v9ajuxjkt8t...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi all members liste  , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired
>> ,if
>> anyone interested please contacte me.
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:48:20 +0100 (CET)
>> From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
>> To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"
>> 
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Very sad news
>> Message-ID: <825781290.98647.1710366500...@www.ud-mail.de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-(
>>
>> John, rest in peace!
>>
>> Bernd
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:16:00 -0500
>> From: Paul 
>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific
>> Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-08 Disputed
>> Message-ID: <088038b3-ec22-4815-b8fc-d187f665a...@att.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> Recently, a preprint has been posted to the arXiv site that
>>
>> disputes proposal that Be,La,U-rich spherules recovered form
>>
>> Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-0 are from an extrasolar
>>
>> origin. Instead, they argued to be microtektites of terrestrial
>>
>> lateritic

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[humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list]

Benzaki Mohamed,
Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758
CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and
resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as
a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance.
Jason

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>   2014-01-08 Disputed (Paul)
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700
> From: 
> To: 
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> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Wednesday, Mar 13 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Hamlet
>
> Contributed by: Anne Black
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> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/13/2024
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 22:16:15 +
> From: Benzaki Mohamed 
> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite carbon
> Message-ID:
> <
> cagzkz4-7hufr2n7mzy4hapufexcssju66gn+v9ajuxjkt8t...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi all members liste  , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if
> anyone interested please contacte me.
> -- next part --
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:48:20 +0100 (CET)
> From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"
> 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Very sad news
> Message-ID: <825781290.98647.1710366500...@www.ud-mail.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Dear List,
>
> It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-(
>
> John, rest in peace!
>
> Bernd
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:16:00 -0500
> From: Paul 
> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific
> Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-08 Disputed
> Message-ID: <088038b3-ec22-4815-b8fc-d187f665a...@att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Recently, a preprint has been posted to the arXiv site that
>
> disputes proposal that Be,La,U-rich spherules recovered form
>
> Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-0 are from an extrasolar
>
> origin. Instead, they argued to be microtektites of terrestrial
>
> lateritic sandstone.
>
> The preprint is:
>
> Desch, S., 2024. Be, La, U-rich spherules as
>
> microtektites of terrestrial laterites: What goes \\
>
> up must come down. arXiv preprint arXiv:2403.05161.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.05161
>
> https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2403/2403.05161.pdf
>
> The proposed extrasolar spherules are discussed in:
>
> Loeb, A., Adamson, T., Bergstrom, S., Cloete, R.,
>
> Cohen, S., Conrad, K., Domine, L., Fu, H., Hoskinson,
>
> C., Hyung, E., Jacobsen, S., Kelly, M., Kohn, J., Lard,
>
> E., Lam, S., Laukien, F., Lem, J., McCallum, R.,
>
> Millsap, R., Parendo, C., Petaev, M., Peddeti, C.,
>
> Pugh, K., Samuha, S., Sasselov, D., Schlereth, M.,
>
> Siler, J.J., Siraj, A., Smith, P.M., Tagle, R., Taylor,
>
> J., Weed, R., Wright, A., and Wynn, J. 2023.,
>
> Discovery of Spherules of likely extrasolar composition
>
> in the Pacific Ocean site of the CNEOS 2014-01-08
>
> (IM1) bolide. arXiv preprint 2308.15623
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.15623
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.15623.pdf
>
> Loeb, A., Adamson, T., Bergstrom, S., Cloete, R.,
>
> Cohen, S., Conrad, K., Domine, L., Fu, H.,
>
> Hoskinson, C., Hyung, E., Jacobsen, S., Kelly, M.,
>
> Kohn, J., Lard, E., Laukien, F., Lem, J., McCallum, R.,
>
> Millsap, R., Parendo, C., Petaev, M., Peddeti, C.,
>
> Pugh, K., Samuha, S., Sasselov, D., Schlereth, M.,
>
> Siler, 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 225, Issue 16

[Peter Klopfenstein via Meteorite-list]

thank you 
   
Peter P. Klopfenstein 

   

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Today''s Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 11273 

Contributed by: Paladino Vincenzino 

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Greetings,

Here is a better link to my items.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/183781924@N06/albums/72177720296265263

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 228, Issue 15

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Meteorite hunters in Kenya north eastern province

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 218, Issue 29

[Daniel Noyes via Meteorite-list]

Hi Mike,

Parades and events, eh?

I put myself through the later years of college and then grad school as
a teaching assistant. Science-deniers had another name: flunkies. But
they aced drinking and partying!

Be safe. Be well.

Daniel 

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:00:06 -0500
From: Michael Gilmer 
To: Michael Farmer 
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All things considered, April sounds a bit optimistic.

If a show was outside, like Quartzite, then I would be less worried
about exposure risk while attending. My main concern would be
traveling to and from the show and how lodging could be handled.
Traveling and lodging present their own inherent risks.

Or, they could just move the show to Florida where the governor is a
science-denier and business is open as usual. A lot of people down
here are acting like nothing is happening. Events, parades, parties,
sporting events with fans in the stands, the whole nine yards. Of
course, the hospitals are filled to the rafters and the morgues are
overflowingso there's that.

Stay safe!



On 12/27/20, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Show is cancelled in January. Moved to April. But I highly doubt even that
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 218, Issue 19

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ok !

Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 11:07, 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 218, Issue 5

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Awesome! Thanks for sharing...

Kind regards,
Daniel

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2020 22:51:44 +0100
From: Steinar Midtskogen 
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Northern Taurid as bright as the full Moon
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Hi

We just set up new cameras in Skibotn, Norway and calibrated them last
night. Today at 14:30 local time this happened:

 https://youtu.be/6ZDEO75mR8w

This was a northern Taurid, as bright as the full moon, visible for 7
seconds. Shallow entry angle and it fully disintegrated 60 km above
ground.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 217, Issue 10

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Hello All,

If that's a moon rock, or any meteorite derived fragment for that
matter, I'm Mickey Mouse...lol! 
Maybe it is a mineral ore from the Nostromo payload that Ripley salvaged
before she blew it and that fraker alien to kingdom come...lol, lol!

Anyone can write whatever on the net and it is so, "Moon rocks are
illegal". I hear this a lot...(rolling eyes). All you can do is educate
one naivete at a time, "No actually, only the Apollo moon rocks are
illegal..."

Be safe. Be well.

Kind regards,
Daniel

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 21:26:54 -0600
From: Paul 
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] What Is This Thing? Mystery Rock or
 Meteorwrong?
Message-ID: <6d48996f-5a8c-f611-bca5-c0f1a4e1f...@att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On Reddit, there is an item (rock?) labeled "AN/TCS-62" that
many people are guessing is either a meteorite or Moon rock at:
https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/jr62jh/my_grandpa_gave_this_to_me_before_he_died_does/

Although I disagree with either identification, the members
of this list might have fun making their guesses as to what
this mystery specimen is.

Have fun,

Paul H.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 209, Issue 27

[Frank Spitz via Meteorite-list]

Thank you for your efforts.

Best,
Frank Spitz

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> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Glorieta Mountain
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> Contributed by: Anne Black
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> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/26/2020
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 08:32:20 -0500
> From: Paul 
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] OT - Fossil, Geology, and Science Video
> Collections
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> Given the current troubles that have much of this world in lock-down in
> their homes,
> I have collected the URLs for different collections of geology, fossils,
> and general
> science videos for the Houston Gem and Mineral Society. To share them with
> a
> wider audience I have posted the list below.
>
> "Let's be careful out there."
>
> Paul H.
>
> Geology Video Collections
>
> American Geological Institute Webinars
> https://www.americangeosciences.org/webinars
>
> Australian Institute of Geoscientists
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLqmTfmB-kxPhgIYx_T27KA
>
> Benjamin Burger
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6IxWv14YRWhd07XOMdraRA
>
> Central Washington University
> https://www.youtube.com/user/CentralWashU/videos?view=0=p_id=2
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwNJg2mCrcQSWMxs2jvgp_lvpeffAUd6e
>
> CSPG - Canada's Energy Geoscientists
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo47bIjmfuQpbkFCQBFVAeA
>
> CSUFullerton_GeologyDept. - YouTube
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLeTpwLkLpbDLVCll3O10fQ
>
> Engineering Geology And Geotechnics
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvoYHzAhvVM
>
> Geologists of Jackson Hole
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIqF4IlVr75GZMROmG3myEA/videos
>
> Geological Society of London
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzhX_LOB1xUwIDmckTrPOqw
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNksJlpAKcLiMM7OmC_J3r8Ku84SzNpNE
>
> Houston Geological Society
> https://www.youtube.com/user/HGSGeoEducation/videos
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4E1jMy025zyFJ2ZxPEv0Ug
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zGgOktFQ8
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs6d6cNggaUbA2dCgH1cvRqkT1m5xOiIG
>
> NASA Astrobiology
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC14eJIZ7EWssOo9sBGp4d7Q
> https://www.youtube.com/user/NAIVideoResources/channels
>
> SETI Institute
> https://www.youtube.com/user/setiinstitute/playlists
>
> Solid Earth group (PGP)
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfb0OB9oo3ffXjJcO4HwLtw
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5QIs4mu6Wg
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWpWr3--9DQ
>
> ++
>
> Paleontology Video Collections
>
> Sergey Paleotrip
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTAMW8YsJaA
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NUHNbl9Y4KtQKlijWbCyg
>
> Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaraga_Hn9iXkE79K2qDXxg
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRUV0q9WVXY=PLZlbplZQQwVpcyo2zibn-TBciG0Cmc8R1
>
> +
>
> Archaeology Video Collections
>
> Gresham College
> https://www.gresham.ac.uk/watch/
>
> The Oriental Institute
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCitjN1GDlEVcLz-fAy5VIpg
>
> Penn Museum
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiiElpwq-jZMlEDJlWaPBlg
>
> ++
>
> Science Video Collections
>
> American Geophysical Union (AGU) - YouTube
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAmvZawnAXogfsrXWKpPTVw
>
> BBC Science and Nature
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/genre/factual/scienceandnature
>
> UC Berkeley Events
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeleyEvents/videos?view=0=p_id=4
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiFF04rOq3Y
>
> European Geosciences Union
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS_7GuTIk_PEBto2w-_nXgg
>
> Google Talks - YouTube
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbmNph6atAoGfqLoCL_duAg
>
> Gresham College
> https://www.gresham.ac.uk/watch/
>
> Harvard Museum of Natural History
> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 209, Issue 15

[Don Skidmore via Meteorite-list]

You have pics of thika, and  hessel, 

Sent from my iPhone

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> 2.968 gram ? Hessle ? 1869 Sweden fall ? H5 - $300

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 208, Issue 15

[Frank Spitz via Meteorite-list]

Need price list included

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> I did a very important update on my website inventory. There are plenty of
> cool things for sale, including rare classifications or falls. For example,
> Abee, Allende, Bencubbin, Bjurb?le, Bouvante, d'Orbigny, Krasnojarsk, La
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 204, Issue 27

[PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list]

Dear Al,

Many thanks for your answer. Yes, I know the fundamental work of Buchwald,
but it doesn't contain any illustration that shows how taenite and kamacite
stay together in Ochtaedrites, or he origin of Neuman lines in Hexahedrites
or the relationship between Neumann lines and cubic crystalline structure
of Hexahedrites. Unfortunately I have found words only in the several books
I red (Norton's books for example and many others). But I haven't red all
the books, obviously. This is the reason of my email.

However, many thanks for your email, the first I have received. I have
appreciated your help.

Paolo Conte (IMCA #6037. Met. Soc. 6262)
www.progettotheia.com


Il giorno mer 27 nov 2019 alle ore 12:19 <
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> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chelyabinsk
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> Contributed by: John Divelbiss
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> Cc: Jon Wallace via Meteorite-list
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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] MICROMETEORITES
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>
>
> https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/can-you-really-find-micrometeorites-in-your-gutter-well
>
> Regards,
> Finbarr.
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 1:21 PM Daniel Michael via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> > At least a year ago, someone posted an article on retrieving
> > micrometeorites from rooftops. I have a friend who is attempting to do
> the
> > same,  and would appreciate having a copy of that article.
> > Thank you,
> > DAN
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>
>   Hi Paolo Conte,
>
>   I would suggest the Handbook of Iron Meteorites.
>
>   Here is a PDF but don't know if they have the graphics in it.
>
>
>
> https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/33757/5/vol1-pre%28LO%29.pdf
>
>
>
> https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/handle/10524/35664/vol2-Camp-CanyC(LO).pdf
>
>
> https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/35860/1/vol3-apre.pdf
>
>   Best!
>
>   --AL Mitterling
>
>   Mitterling Meteorites
>
>   Quoting PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>:
>
> > Hello Listers
> >
> > Does anyone know a book or article that gr

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 204, Issue 26

[Jon Wallace via Meteorite-list]

Dan,
I was the one that posted the note. I have found 15 now. The best resource is 
actually Jon Larsen's Facebook site (project Stardust). If you look around you 
will find several articles, with pictures, about how to search rooftops. Mark 
also mentioned the books and they really are great and fairly cheap. If you 
find something, please share. If you need help, let me know and feel free to 
contact me directly via e-mail.
Take care!
Jon

Message: 2
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At least a year ago, someone posted an article on retrieving
micrometeorites from rooftops. I have a friend who is attempting to do the
same, and would appreciate having a copy of that article.
Thank you,
DAN
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 202, Issue 16

[jbaercou via Meteorite-list]

Very rare meteorites sell well







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>Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:55:34 -0400
>From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" 
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>Subject: [meteorite-list] Will Breja ever be classified?
>Message-ID:
>   
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>Re : the so-called "Breja" fall of May 01, 2010 in Morocco.
>
>I recall that a good bit of material from this fall appeared on the
>market for a period of time after the fall, then it got forgotten as
>newer and more interesting material surfaced later. It was a fresh OC
>with a battleship-grey matrix with sparse metal fleck and shock
>veining. Specimens had velvetly black crust.
>
>A couple of years after the fall, I inquired about it to a few dealers
>and somebody told me that a scientist at a leading institution said
>that Breja would not be classified because it originated from Algeria
>and there were legal/ethical issues surrounding it. I don't recall who
>exactly said this and I think it was in a private email discussion.
>
>Well, several more years have gone by, and I still wonder about this
>old fall when I update my "Recent Falls" meteorite page. And it occurs
>to me that there have been many new finds approved in the Met Bull
>that come out of Algeria - it doesn't seem to be an issue recently. In
>fact, the latest Met Bull update contains three different meteorites
>out of Algeria.
>
>So, is Breja not being classified because nobody is trying (nobody has
>submitted a sample) or is it because no reputable institution will
>touch it? And if the latter, then why not?
>
>Best regards,
>
>MikeG
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 20:13:08 + (UTC)
>From: Anne Black 
>To: meteoritem...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Will Breja ever be classified?
>Message-ID: <261088201.5120359.1568578388...@mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>Sorry Mike I don't know about Breja, but that reminded me..
>
>If some of you have pieces of the NDrali meteorite, a very pretty one with 
>melt veins, and wonder why it has not been classified, it has been, but under 
>an other name: BARDAI. And it is an H3-5.
>
>And yes of course, I have it, and I will soon have a few thin-sections.
>Just so you know!
>
>Anne Black
>IMPACTIKA.com
>impact...@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list 
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>To: Meteorite List 
>Sent: Sun, Sep 15, 2019 12:55 pm
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Will Breja ever be classified?
>
>
>Re : the so-called "Breja" fall of May 01, 2010 in Morocco.
>
>
>
>I recall that a good bit of material from this fall appeared on the
>
>market for a period of time after the fall, then it got forgotten as
>
>newer and more interesting material surfaced later. It was a fresh OC
>
>with a battleship-grey matrix with sparse metal fleck and shock
>
>veining. Specimens had velvetly black crust.
>
>
>
>A couple of years after the fall, I inquired about it to a few dealers
>
>and somebody told me that a scientist at a leading institution said
>
>that Breja would not be classified because it originated from Algeria
>
>and there were legal/ethical issues surrounding it. I don't recall who
>
>exactly said this and I think it was in a private email discussion.
>
>
>
>Well, 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 200, Issue 15

[Frank Spitz via Meteorite-list]

Sorry for the typos. I lost Norm's email address and would like to contact
him.
Respectfully,
Frank Spitz

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> Paul/Jim
> I have last Norm's email address. Can you provide. I have been a customer
> of him.for years and somehow lost the connection.
> You. An verify with Norm or Cookie.
> Thank you in advance !
> Frank Spits
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 199, Issue 27

[Daniel Noyes via Meteorite-list]

Great story, Ruben!

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com
IMCA #6830



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Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 199, Issue 27
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 meteorites?
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I just posted a new article to my website
"How I Made My First $10,000 in The Meteorite Business"
(without owning a computer, camera or much experience)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 198, Issue 2

[Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list]

2. A little something I wrote about my trip to Costa Rica
   (Roberto Vargas)


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Congratulations, Roberto. Great story and beautiful pieces!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 191, Issue 22

[JAY BUSCIO via Meteorite-list]

If more of us reported all the fake meteorites and tektites listed on Ebay 
along with using the eBay Concierge service to call and report a seller to a 
live Ebay assistant or use the chat feature to report fake items it would 
greatly help toward weeding out the untrustworthy sellers.
As far as I can see on Ebay the majority of fake meteorites and tektites are 
being offered by Chinese sources. I see this FAKE meteorite problem as a 
growing thing on Ebay since it just begets itself with each new bogus listing. 
Someone see's a bogus listing with a fake meteorite photo and now they think 
there "rock" is one too, so they list it on Ebay.
Help the hobby, report all the fake meteorites and tektites you see offered on 
Ebay. If enough of us take the time to do that it would go a long way.

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 01:00:12 -0700
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Gila Mountains
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:43:19 +0700
> From: Peter Marmet  mailto:p.mar...@thinsections.ch >
> To: Meteoritenliste  mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs from China on ebay
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> Hi All,
> 
> one of the many guys selling meteorwrongs one ebay is caiyhk6688
> 
> Right now he is selling 31(!) meteorwrongs and most of them have bids 
> already! :-(
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y8skmmym
> 
> I just wrote an email to ebay!?no idea if it helps?
> 
> Cheers,
> Peter
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 21:32:09 +0700
> From: Peter Marmet  mailto:p.mar...@thinsections.ch >
> To: Simon deBoer mailto:sbdeb...@hurontel.on.ca >
> Cc: Meteoritenliste  mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs from China on ebay
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> Thank you for your reply, Simon!
> 
> > > they will soon give up I think?
> > 
> > > Let?s hope so!
> 
> > > It is just the new collector is frustrated and disappointed if 
> too late he learns that he has been had ?
> > 
> > > Yes!?and that?s what makes me angry!
> 
> If anyone on the list has time to report those ebay scammers, that?s how 
> to do it:
> 
> To report a policy violation from a listing:
>1. ?Go to the listing for the item you want to report.
>2. Click the "Report item" link on the right side of the page, above 
> the seller's detailed item description.
>3. From the drop-down menus, choose the reason for your report, then 
> click Continue.
>4. Please try to confirm that the listing is really violating an eBay 
> policy by reviewing the relevant help page.
>5. Fill in the verification code and click Send Report.
> 
> 
> Ebay: "After we receive your report, we'll consider the circumstances, 
> including the seller's past history with us.
> If we decide to take action, we may send the seller a warning, remove the 
> listing, or limit the seller's buying and selling 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 189, Issue 26

[JAY BUSCIO via Meteorite-list]

I think it's hardy that someone totally unknown from China (QQ.com email 
Address) wants a IMCA shingle when the MAJORITY of FAKE meteorites on Ebay and 
elsewhere are offered by sellers from China. Nice try YanDUH!

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> Message: 2
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> Personally,
>
> I would not recommend you unless I knew from personal experience that you are 
> honest, reliable, trustworthy.
> And that you able to distinguish meteorites from meteor-wrongs, and able to 
> scientifically explain meteorites to newcomers.
> Nothing less.
>
>
> Anne Black
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>
> meteorites to new-comers in a
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> Thanks
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 187, Issue 18

[Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list]

Normally: yes, best address.

But unfortunately not available just now.


Am 18.07.2018 um 16:38 schrieb frank.j.spitz via Meteorite-list:

Try Norm Lehrman of Tektite Source in US



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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Canyon Diablo

Contributed by: Phil Morgan

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=07/17/2018


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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:51:26 +0200
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Moldavite
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Hello everyone !

I have not been posting here for quite a while...
Not a big fan of FBook and not much going on here ;)

A dear friend of mine in France (where I live now also) would love a
Moldovite
for the energy it would give him.

There are sooo many fakes everywhere..
I read a bit in French and much more in English, but any advice 
welcomed ;)
(The best advice I read was to hold the Moldovite and feel its energy, 
but

online... ;))

And if any of you can propose one, around $100 ?

Thanx

Great day or else to you all

Mike B



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 187, Issue 18

[frank.j.spitz via Meteorite-list]

 Try Norm Lehrman of Tektite Source in US


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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Canyon Diablo

Contributed by: Phil Morgan

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Hello everyone !

I have not been posting here for quite a while...
Not a big fan of FBook and not much going on here ;)

A dear friend of mine in France (where I live now also) would love a 
Moldovite
for the energy it would give him.

There are sooo many fakes everywhere..
I read a bit in French and much more in English, but any advice welcomed ;)
(The best advice I read was to hold the Moldovite and feel its energy, but 
online... ;))

And if any of you can propose one, around $100 ?

Thanx

Great day or else to you all

Mike B 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 179, Issue 19

[Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list]

Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:19:19 +0100
From: PAOLO CONTE 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Prehistoric Gibeon artifacts
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Hello Listers,

I often read, about Gibeon, this meteorites was used by native tribes to
make weapons, tools and jewelry, over the last 50,000 years.

However, I have not been able to find *any photos* of these prehistoric
Gibeon artifacts in Internet, or *even any research papers* mentioning
these tools.

It's very strange, but you can directly verify this fact on Google: no
images, no scientific paper.

So, my question: do these artifacts really exist? Where are they? Are there
pictures of them? Does anyone know anything about it?

I wrote several times to the museums of Windhoek, Namibia, but they never
answered: really funny!

I hope to receive some useful information from you.

Many thanks for your kind attention.

Best regards from Rome.

Paolo Conte (IMCA #6037),
Rome, Italy


Paolo,
I'm not sure that the ancient nomadic San people who inhabited the 
desert area where Gibeon fell had anything to do with metal as they 
really didn't need it in their culture. The Bantu peoples who came much 
later to the fringes of the desert did have a metal knowledge and made 
metal artifacts but where they got the metal may have been from sources 
other than Gibeon. A Gibeon anvil may have been used by Bantus 
relatively recently. Try searching on San (Bushman) metal artifacts but 
I think you will have a long search.

Chauncey
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 178, Issue 23

[brad johnson via Meteorite-list]

May I be so dumb in response to the question" What happens if China makes
first contact" First there is a presupposition that first contact hasn't
already been made...
It would be fun to imagine that any nation would make an announcement.


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   3. Hi, do you know the exact place of phoenix meteor?
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   4. Krasnojarsk in Berlin not meteorite (M come Meteorite Meteorites)
   5. Re: Looking for large UNWA (dean bessey)


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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 10690 TS

Contributed by: Solar Anamnesis

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=11/20/2017


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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 07:47:49 -0500
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To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>, "'Alfredo
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If I may be so bold I would like to suggest a more recent book/documentary.
"Unacknowledged" by Dr. Steven M. Greer.

Saw the movie, have the book - Absolutely mind blowing!
Steven Greer was here in Toronto a few months back for a showing and talk.

Roman Jirasek


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> Alfredo, Paul, List,
>
> I can suggest two recent
> (within a few decades) books
> on the whole question of
> Extraterrestial contact:
>
> "If the Universe is Teeming
> With Aliens, Where Is Every-
> body?" (2002) by Stephen
> Webb, presents in detail the
> arguments for 50 different
> explanations for the apparent
> lack of evidence for aliens
> everywhere (or anywhere).
>
> He has a website:
> <http://stephenwebb.info/category/fermi-paradox/>
>
> A history of recent searches
> and searchers is: "Five Billion
> Years of Solitude: The Search
> for Life Among the Stars," by
> Lee Billings" (2013).
>
> Even that title seems mournful
> to me...
>
>
> Sterling Webb
> _
>
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Alfredo Petrov via Meteorite-list
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>
>
> Let's hope that no one ever makes contact, because it would be a disaster
> for one of the parties, us or them. In first contacts between cultures,
> the
> less developed one is usually destroyed, if not by violence then by
> inferiority complexes, addictions and other mental issues. Making contact
> with an alien culture that is just coincidentally at the same
> technological
> level as us would be so improbable as to be in the realm of religious hope
> rather than reality.
>
> On 19 November 2017 at 02:02, Roman Jirasek via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>
> As America has turned away from searching for
> extraterrestrial intelligence . . .
>
> Maybe because they already found it years ago!?
>
> Roman
>
>
> From: Paul via Meteorite-

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 10

[Brian Cox via Meteorite-list]

Hello everybody, 

Let me say a couple of things about this scoundrel in Hong Kong, and what I 
think he's up to, and then the constant bashing of ebay. 

Keep a watch out for the meteorites this guy bought, he's probably going to 
sell them himself either through his ebay user ID, but most likely he has 
another user ID he's probably going to sell them through. He also may be 
working with someone who will sell them either on their own website or maybe 
ebay. 

Think about it, it makes no sense this guy would buy a meteorite and then burn 
his bridges to the people he bought the meteorites from who supplied them, so 
to speak, by making the sellers look bad by purposely leaving negative feedback 
to make them look bad to keep buyers away. 

He most likely did this in the hopes that potential buyers would shy away from 
the sellers he defamed and not buy from them. 

He's probably planning on selling them and getting the business from buyers 
that he Thinks he has fooled into not buying from the sellers he has tried to 
condemn with the negative feedback. 

Let's all work together to look for these meteorites being sold in the future 
if we can get all the seller's help. 
If all the sellers would all post the names of the meteorites and dimensions 
and weight, and if possible links to the photos would be great.  

If we can all see or have information about the meteorites he bought then this 
would help everyone in the meteorite community so that no one buys these 
meteorites from him or any people he's working with, so we can prevent him from 
making any money from his scamming and lying. 

Now, onto the ebay concern, many of us don't have a website, like you Mike F 
and you Mike G, Anne, etc., and for now ebay suits me fine. Yes, there are 
scammers on ebay, But with tens of Millions of people on it daily buying and 
selling from around the world, it's a small price to pay for 24/7 exposure and 
new customers and cross collectors that happen upon buying their first 
meteorite, when they were looking for something else.  

I bought my first meteorites in the early 2000s on ebay from now well known 
long time dealers when I was looking for my usual favorites at the time, such 
as mineral specimens and rocks, coins and collectible jewelry, when I got 
excited and came across cross-sellers who sold meteorites and rocks and coins 
at the time. 

It's also fun as a buyer, and even though Ebay is Not perfect, as folks have 
stated here, but as Ruben said, ebay does realize there are a$$holes, scammers 
and thieves that pull bizarre and hateful crap like unnecessary negative 
feedback, and Ebay will and does remove it if you are willing to take the time 
on the phone to go through the same amount of time you would when calling 
Amazon or Walmart or Macy's or whatever other business you have to call to 
solve a problem. 

Now, granted its different as a seller, but I've found ebay has grown up over 
the years, even though some folks talk like its archaic, but per Ruben's story 
and John Humphries and even the posts Dave Cox shares on Facebook about the 
hassles he gets, they do recognize honest sellers that have imbeciles causing 
trouble and they will fix a problem such as this troublemaker. 

Everyone have a great day, and may a large and rare Meteorite land safely in 
your yard. 

Brian





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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 163, Issue 22

[jack satkoski via Meteorite-list]

Subject: petrographic studies of meteorites

Would like to establish connections with those interested in the petrographic 
side of meteorite classification.  jacko...@yahoo.com
Jack Satkoski



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   2. Test for Damp Ground at Mars' Seasonal Streaks Finds None
  (Ron Baalke)
   3. NASA Awards Launch Services Contract for Mars 2020 Rover
  Mission (Ron Baalke)
   4. Dawn Sets Course for Higher Orbit (Ron Baalke)
   5. Ceres' Geological Activity, Ice Revealed in New Research
  (Ron Baalke)
   6. NASA Approves 2018 Launch of Mars InSight Mission (Ron Baalke)


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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Bassikounou

Contributed by: Rob Lenssen

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=09/18/2016


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Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:37:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List)
Subject: [meteorite-list] Test for Damp Ground at Mars' Seasonal
Streaks Finds None
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6597

Test for Damp Ground at Mars' Seasonal Streaks Finds None
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
August 23, 2016

Seasonal dark streaks on Mars that have become one of the hottest topics 
in interplanetary research don't hold much water, according to the latest 
findings from a NASA spacecraft orbiting Mars.

The new results from NASA's Mars Odyssey mission rely on ground temperature, 
measured by infrared imaging using the spacecraft's Thermal Emission Imaging 
System (THEMIS). They do not contradict last year's identification of 
hydrated salt at these flows, which since their 2011 discovery have been 
regarded as possible markers for the presence of liquid water on modern 
Mars. However, the temperature measurements now identify an upper limit 
on how much water is present at these darkened streaks: about as much 
as in the driest desert sands on Earth.

When water is present in the spaces between particles of soil or grains 
of sand, it affects how quickly a patch of ground heats up during the 
day and cools off at night.

"We used a very sensitive technique to quantify the amount of water associated 
with these features," said Christopher Edwards of Northern Arizona University, 
Flagstaff. "The results are consistent with no moisture at all and set 
an upper limit at three percent water."

The features, called recurring slope lineae or RSL, have been identified 
at dozens of sites on Mars. A darkening of the ground extends downhill 
in fingerlike flows during spring or summer, fades away in fall and winter, 
then repeats the pattern in another year at the same location. The process 
that causes the streaks to appear is still a puzzle.

"Some type of water-related activity at the uphill end still might be 
a factor in triggering RSL, but the darkness of the ground is not associated 
with large amounts of water, either liquid or frozen," Edwards said. "Totally 
dry mechanisms for explaining RSL should not be ruled out."

He and Sylvain Piqueux of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, 
California, analyzed several years of THEMIS infrared observations of 
a crater-wall region within the large Valles Marineris canyon system on 
Mars. Numerous RSL features sit close together in some parts of the study 
region. Edwards and Piqueux compared nighttime temperatures of patches 
of ground averaging about 44 percent RSL features, in the area, to temperatures 
of nearby slopes with no RSL. They found no detectable difference, even 
during seasons when RSL were actively growing.

The report of these findings by Edwards and Piqueux has been accepted 
by the peer-reviewed Geophysical Research Letters and is available online.

There is some margin of error in assessing ground temperatures with the 
multiple THEMIS observations used 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 161, Issue 5

[Don Armijo via Meteorite-list]

Lol...Campo all the way!



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Cutting An Iron (Michael Farmer)
   2. Re: Cutting An Iron (Michael Farmer)
   3. Re: Cutting An Iron (Paul Gessler)


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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 16:10:00 -0700
From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
To: John Pierce <lum...@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Gessler <cetu...@shaw.ca>,
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
Message-ID: <24eef7d8-c175-4072-bc95-ff27c3bab...@meteoriteguy.com>
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Nice 100% campo del Cielo meteorite from Argentina.
110% scam. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:40 AM, John Pierce via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, photos.
> I'm not the most computer literate person.
> I had go create a Photobucket album, and I hope this link works:
> 
> http://s744.photobucket.com/user/Lumin9/library/Halo
> 
> Please, no need to flame me for cleaning the rock.
> I read and considered a lot before proceeding.
> Simply my preference with no concern regarding market value.  
> 
> Found by me personally on our 32-acre property in Southern Oregon.
> 
> John Pierce
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Paul Gessler <cetu...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Let?s see a picture of this Iron.
>> -Paul G
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: John Pierce via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:33 PM
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is my first post here.  I joined recently because I found a lovely 
>> nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this 
>> subject. My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of the 
>> Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform 
>> classification.  It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be only 
>> the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I?ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven?t yet been able to find 
>> answer to my question.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I?m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron 
>> meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary. They 
>> advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons.  I?m interested to know 
>> anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain water as a 
>> coolant/lubricant.  For cutting the analysis sample, I have machining 
>> experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would like 
>> to be a circular blade.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 159, Issue 18

[FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-XI211) via Meteorite-list]

I can always tell when y¹all are up to something.  The list becomes
really, really quietŠ   Heheh.

Good luck,
Marc

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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 00:00:11 -0700
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>Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Mundrabilla
>
>Contributed by: John Divelbiss
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>http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=05/17/2016
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>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 09:32:12 +
>From: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] O.R. Norton (+May 17, 2009)
>Message-ID: 
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>He paved the way for so many of us!
>
>Bernd
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>NORTON O.R. (1998) Are chondrites sedimentary rocks?
>(M! Feb. 1998, Vol. 4, No. 3, pp. 22-23).
>
>NORTON O.R. (1998) Rocks From Space, 2nd edition.
>
>NORTON O.R. (1998) The Goose Lake Meteorite
>(M!, Feb. 99, Vol. 5, No. 1, pp. 30-32).
>
>NORTON O.R. (1999) Is Lawrencite a myth?
>(M!, May 1999, Vol. 5, No. 2, pp. 22-23).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2000) So NEAR yet so far
>(M!, Vol. 6,  No. 1, Feb 2000, pp. 22-24).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2000) Igneous clouds and chondrule rims
>(Meteorite, Nov 2000, Vol. 6, no.4, pp. 22-23).
>
>NORTON O.R. and TOFFOLI T. (2000) Chondrites - A novel way
>to photograph them (M!, Vol. 6, No. 1, Feb 2000, pp. 20-23).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2001) Centerpiece: Kapoeta - A Howardite Extra-
>ordinaire (Meteorite, May 2001, Vol. 7, No. 2, pp. 22-24).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2001) Ugly Ducklings of the desert (Meteorite
>Magazine, August 2001, Vol. 7, No. 3, pp. 22-23).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2002) The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites
>(Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0 521 62143 7, pp. 354).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2002) Beware the metal-rich imposter (Meteorite,
>February 2002, Vol. 8, No. 1, Centerpiece, pp. 22-23 + p. 39).
>
>NORTON O.R. et al. (2002) Basics of polarized light microscopy,
>part II (Meteorite, Centerpiece, Nov 2002, Vol. 8, No. 4, pp. 22-24).
>
>NORTON O.R. et al. (2003) Basalts of differentiated worlds
>(Meteorite, Centerpiece, May 2003, Vol. 9, No. 2, pp. 21-24).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2003) Petrographic Gallery of Meteorites(Meteorite
>Magazine, August 2003, Vol. 9, No. 3, pp. 21-24).
>
>NORTON O.R. (2008) Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites(Patrick
>Moore's Practical Astronomy Series, ISBN 978-1-84800-156-5, 287 pp.).
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list} What is this meteorwrong?

[Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list]

Yep, a canon ball.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:23 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
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> My guess:
> 
> A large canon ball.
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 9:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list} What is this meteorwrong?
> 
> Hi all,
>Some of you on the list (especially the dealers) may have also
> Been contacted by this guy. He is from Greece and says he dug up
> This 55.2Kg sphere from 20 meters deep. He asked if I thought it
> Were a meteorite. I assured him it was not but I am fascinated by it.
>Any guesses as to what people think it could be?
> 
> SEE HERE: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/NotAMeteorite.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list} What is this meteorwrong?

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

My guess:

A large canon ball.


Anne M. Black
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impact...@aol.com


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Hi all,
Some of you on the list (especially the dealers) may have also
Been contacted by this guy. He is from Greece and says he dug up
This 55.2Kg sphere from 20 meters deep. He asked if I thought it
Were a meteorite. I assured him it was not but I am fascinated by it.
Any guesses as to what people think it could be?

SEE HERE: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/NotAMeteorite.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list} What is this meteorwrong?

[Michael Blood via Meteorite-list]

Hi all,
Some of you on the list (especially the dealers) may have also
Been contacted by this guy. He is from Greece and says he dug up
This 55.2Kg sphere from 20 meters deep. He asked if I thought it
Were a meteorite. I assured him it was not but I am fascinated by it.
Any guesses as to what people think it could be?

SEE HERE: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/NotAMeteorite.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 157, Issue 32

[orgamet--- via Meteorite-list]

Dear All ... great offers on my ebay list with a very nice 28g "Sidi Ali Ou Az" 
= Tissint2 Fall L4 (S3/Wo) and various new classified CK, CV3, Eucrites, L4, 
Lunar and Mars ... Have a look, enjoy and please make offers ! :-)! 
http://www.ebay.de/usr/orgamet 
regards, 
Orgamet
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 157, Issue 15

[Dave Ribeca via Meteorite-list]

Ken/ Anne,
I reported every single suspect specimen he has for sale as "fraudulent". 
Ebay has not taken action yet


D. Ribeca
IMCA Member 4050

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  2. For Newbies - Ebay Suspect Seller (Ken Newton)
  3. Re: For Newbies - Ebay Suspect Seller (Anne Black)


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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 00:00:11 -0700
From: <valpar...@aol.com>
To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chelyabinsk

Contributed by: Steve R. Anold

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/12/2016


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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:36:44 -0500
From: Ken Newton <magellon@gmail.com>
To: meteorite list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: [meteorite-list] For Newbies - Ebay Suspect Seller
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Hi All,
I know newbies frequent the List and I just wanted to share with them a
"heads-up" for the following eBay suspect meteorite seller : michaeteged0

Ebay Auctions : http://tinyurl.com/jyekqch

Questions to seller : http://tinyurl.com/j2feshe

Best,
Ken Newton
meteorite-identification.com
IMCA #9632
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:21:32 -0500
From: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>
To: magellon@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] For Newbies - Ebay Suspect Seller
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Thank you Ken for letting us know and for keeping up this on-going fight.

That guy is either stupid or a conman.
So it goes back to the old saying: "Know Who You Buy From"
Or buy only from IMCA members!


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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Subject: [meteorite-list] For Newbies - Ebay Suspect Seller



Hi All,
I know newbies frequent the List and I just wanted to share with them a 
"heads-up" for the following eBay suspect meteorite seller :?michaeteged0



Ebay Auctions :?http://tinyurl.com/jyekqch


Questions to seller :?http://tinyurl.com/j2feshe


Best,
Ken Newton
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IMCA #9632

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 156, Issue 16

[Brian Cox via Meteorite-list]

I am sure that nearly everyone in America and the World, unless they're a 
really far rightwing Obama hating conservative, reads the FULL Name, "Barrack 
Hussein Obama" that it means they're using Barrack and Hussein, as "Key Names" 
as in "Hot Button" issue names, since it makes the dense slow to respond folks 
think somethings along the lines of; ( you mean that black Kenyan Muslim 
President that got the slippery route into office. 
I'm sure Adam didn't mean for it to sound that way, but what he copied and 
pasted was written to stir up that hatred and bigotry against Obama. 

I know there's always the comeback of the republican candidates such as Rafael 
Edwardo Cruz, to make him sound Really Hispanic and Cuban, but democrats and 
the media aren't using that full given name, just Ted. 

I think simply the name "Obama" lets everyone in the World know whom someone is 
talking about. 

I think it's a great idea to preserve land, we don't need anymore lame suburbs 
with the same street names throughout like Buena Vista or Peachtree, except 
with Street on one, Drive on the connecting street, Lane on the next street and 
Terrace on the one 3 blocks over. 

Ted Turner and another intelligent few bought up all the land they could to 
preserve the beauty between Denver and Colorado Springs, to keep that area from 
becoming one GIANT tract housing subdivision. 

Sincerely,

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Hello everyone,
 
I had a protracted illness of several months at the end of last year, and my meteorite business came to a standstill. I am happy to report that I am on the mend and have restarted my business.. Thanks to those of you who sent good wishes and prayers.
 
Best,
Daniel
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[Greg B. via Meteorite-list]

Bob Haag was also in a similar article in Sky-and Telescope magazine 
from the early 90's. It got me interested in meteorites also.

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4. Daytime meteor observed by the Norwegian meteor  network
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:00:11 -0700
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 10299

Contributed by: Jean-Michel Masson

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=11/22/2015


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:51:53 -0500
From: Larry Atkins <thetop...@aol.com>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Magazine / Bob Haag
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Hello List,

I'm trying to find out about an issue of Smithsonian Magazine that featured Bob 
Haag. If I remember correctly, Bob was holding an iron meteorite maybe Canyon 
Diablo, and he had been flying an ultra light plane, which may have been in the 
image.The picture was probably taken in Arizona. The issue was published in the 
early to mid 1990's. I have asked Bob himself but he doesn't remember. The 
reason I'm interested in this issue in particular is because it was a major 
turning point for me when I read the article. It was the moment I realized that 
I could find a meteorite, something that had never entered my mind prior to 
that day. Through the years that magazine went missing and I'd like to get 
another copy, get Bob to sign it,and  hang it on the wall.

Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
?
IMCA # 1941
Ebay?alienrockfarm
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:29:38 -0500
From: Larry Atkins <thetop...@aol.com>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Magazine / Bob Haag
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Hi List,

Mystery solved! My signed copy will be on the way shortly!!
Thanks Bob!


Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Magazine / Bob Haag

Hello List,I'm trying to find out about an issue of Smithsonian Magazine that 
featured Bob Haag. If I remember correctly, Bob was holding an iron meteorite 
maybe Canyon Diablo, and he had been flying an ultra light plane, which may 
have been in the image.The picture was probably taken in Arizona. The issue was 
published in the early to mid 1990's. I have asked Bob himself but he doesn't 
remember. The reason I'm interested in this issue in particular is because it 
was a major turning point for me when I read the article. It was the moment I 
realized that I could find a meteorite, something that had never entered my 
mind prior to that day. Through the years that magazine went missing and I'd 
like to get another copy, get Bob to sign it,and  hang it on the 
wall.Sincerely,Larry Atkins?IMCA # 
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:09:25 +0100
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Daytime meteor observed by the Norwegian
meteor  ne

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 146, Issue 3

[Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list]

Hi Aziz and List,

Thanks for the question.  My photos do not clearly show the piece - I
do not have my usual camera and my photography skills are lacking.

In hand, the piece strongly resembles other weathered NWA pallasites
that I have seen.  It has a minor oxidation rind that one would expect
and there are some areas on the surface where olivine crystals are
showing.  It is very dense compared to most unclassified stony
specimens that I receive (and like the rest in the lot) and it has a
high degree of magnetic attraction.

I would love to cut it open because I suspect there is some unoxidized
metal inside, but my saw is small and underpowered to cut irons or
iron-heavy specimens.

If the eventual buyer discovers that it is not a pallasite, then I
will fully refund their money.  I am quite confident this is a
pallasite, but I cannot say for certain without having it analyzed and
it's just too small to warrant that.

I will let it go for $2/g if anyone is interested.

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG

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On 5/3/15, MacBook via Meteorite-list
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 dear galactic stone
 your presumed pallasite from nwa doesn't look like a pallasite
 why you suggest its one,
 thanks
 aziz
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   2. QC ONT, Canada / NJ NY NH PA RI VT, USA Meteor Approx. 2130
  EDT 01MAY2015 (drtanuki)
   3. Ad - NWA Pallasite, Unclassified Black Chondrite, Vaca Muerta
  Endcuts, More. (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)


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 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 00:00:11 -0700
 From: valpar...@aol.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
 Message-ID: AED782C1D5654E429A201345166B2FFC@Seuthopolis
 Content-Type: text/plain

 Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Tennasilm

 Contributed by: Paul Swartz

 http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=05/02/2015


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 Message: 2
 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 12:46:09 + (UTC)
 From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] QC ONT, Canada / NJ NY NH PA RI VT, USA
  Meteor Approx. 2130 EDT 01MAY2015
 Message-ID:
  284542959.230606.1430570769833.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 List,
 QC ONT,Canada / NJ NY NH PA RI VT,USA  Meteor Approx. 2130 EDT 01MAY2015
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2015/05/quebec-canada-meteor-01may2015.html

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 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 13:22:41 -0400
 From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - NWA Pallasite, Unclassified Black
  Chondrite, Vaca Muerta Endcuts, More.
 Message-ID:
  CAKBPJW_68Qm1E8Pc_cMWTfe4Qv4hoq2jrJo-LvL_2rHufrH0=w...@mail.gmail.com
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 Hi Friends and Collectors,

 I have two very interesting unclassified pieces that I have pulled
 from my personal collection.  One is a pallasite and the other is a
 strange black chondrite.  As always, use coupon code metlist at
 checkout for 20% off your entire order.

 If any of the links are broken, please contact me via email.

 NWA Pallasite Individual -
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/unclassified-nwa-pallasite--olivine-rich-individual-25g

 NWA Black Chondrite -
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/unclassified-nwa-black-stone--very-hard-probable-h6-or-h7-19g

 Vaca Muerta Endcuts and Nuggets -
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/products?search=vaca+muerta+nugget

 All new offerings -
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[MacBook via Meteorite-list]

dear galactic stone
your presumed pallasite from nwa doesn't look like a pallasite
why you suggest its one,
thanks
aziz
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   3. Ad - NWA Pallasite, Unclassified Black Chondrite, Vaca Muerta
  Endcuts, More. (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)
 
 
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 Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Tennasilm
 
 Contributed by: Paul Swartz
 
 http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=05/02/2015
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 12:46:09 + (UTC)
 From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] QC ONT, Canada / NJ NY NH PA RI VT, USA
   Meteor Approx. 2130 EDT 01MAY2015
 Message-ID:
   284542959.230606.1430570769833.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 List,
 QC ONT,Canada / NJ NY NH PA RI VT,USA  Meteor Approx. 2130 EDT 01MAY2015 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2015/05/quebec-canada-meteor-01may2015.html
 
 Dirk Ross...Tokyo 
 The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News 
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 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 13:22:41 -0400
 From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - NWA Pallasite, Unclassified Black
   Chondrite, Vaca Muerta Endcuts, More.
 Message-ID:
   CAKBPJW_68Qm1E8Pc_cMWTfe4Qv4hoq2jrJo-LvL_2rHufrH0=w...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Hi Friends and Collectors,
 
 I have two very interesting unclassified pieces that I have pulled
 from my personal collection.  One is a pallasite and the other is a
 strange black chondrite.  As always, use coupon code metlist at
 checkout for 20% off your entire order.
 
 If any of the links are broken, please contact me via email.
 
 NWA Pallasite Individual -
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/unclassified-nwa-pallasite--olivine-rich-individual-25g
 
 NWA Black Chondrite -
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/unclassified-nwa-black-stone--very-hard-probable-h6-or-h7-19g
 
 Vaca Muerta Endcuts and Nuggets -
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/products?search=vaca+muerta+nugget
 
 All new offerings - 
 http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new?pagesize=24
 
 Thanks for looking and have a great weekend!
 
 MikeG
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 142, Issue 12

[Marco Langbroek via Meteorite-list]

meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com schreef op 12-1-2015 om 7:22:


From: drtanukidrtan...@yahoo.com

List,

A 2-KM-Wide Impact Crater Discovered  in
Antarticahttp://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2015/01/antarctic-ice-impact-crater-2015-report.html

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo



You'd think they'd come up with some better pictures before going to press,
but no, just one far away shot in a 2 minute video of them talking about it.

- YW


There is an aerial photograph here:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/two-km-wide-crater-antarctica-linked-2004-meteorite-impact-1482869

Not the best image to get an idea of the structure, but what makes me somewhat 
cautious is that it seems to be polygonal rather than circular. With polygonal 
structures, I am thinking: frost action (on a giant scale). It is Antarctica 
after all.


The same link above mentions that it might be visible on satellite images from 
25 yrs ago. If true, it is not connected to the inferred 2004 event.


- Marco


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 17

[Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for this. Very cool.
Carl
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 Eric Christensen via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
wrote: 
 Hi all,
 
 Pavel Spurny and his team are considered to be among the world's experts in 
 instrumentally observed bolides.  Before dismissing this story as a scam 
 based on a single image, you may wish to read the paper in its entirety:
 
 http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2014/10/aa24308-14.pdf
 
 paying special attention to the local conditions where the meteorites were 
 found.  20 years of being repeatedly tilled under farmland soil in a wet 
 European climate is hard on meteorites.  These were also thought to be 
 meteorites that came from a violent, low-altitude disruption, so even if they 
 initially had fusion crust or typical meteorite shapes, 20 years in the 
 ground would have likely significantly altered their appearance.
 
 Regards,
 
 Eric Christensen
 
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 meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:55:34 -0700
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments
 discovered20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
 Message-ID: 0682f844-abe9-497e-8703-1e0dbd612...@meteoriteguy.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
 
 Sorry but fake as crap, clearly ancient NWA meteorite. Pultusk stones are 
 still being 150 years after the fall and they don't even look hardly weathers 
 at all, same wet climate.
 Sorry but I call a scam, 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:53 PM, MEM via Meteorite-list 
  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
  
  
  www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm
  
  Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
  Date: October 14, 2014
  Source: Astronomy  Astrophysics
  Summary: Scientists have discovered meteorite fragments 20 years after the 
  corresponding bolide 
  was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made 
  possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 
  meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of 
  different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition.
  
  
  
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

[FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) via Meteorite-list]

Howdy, all

I¹ve examined this event and I don¹t agree that this feature is a debris
cloud.  It is visible in radar imagery about 15 minutes prior to the
eyewitness accounts of sonic booms. It is also missing some of the
diagnostic features of a meteorite fall, namely internal turbulence that
fades within minutes of the event, high-altitude signatures, a sequential
appearance due to size sorting of falling debris, and other features in
the various radar data products. This feature moves laterally the whole
time it is visible and appears prior to the event; looks like weather to
me.
There is a feature just NE of Shreveport that is interesting but not
conclusively a meteorite fall.  There are turbulence features seen in the
Shreveport radar and reflectivity features seen at long range from the
Fort Polk radar.  I¹m not convinced that these features are related
either, but we are talking them over. One feature of this event that
troubles me is that there aren¹t any eyewitness reports on the AMS
reporting page. Even though the area was overcast, an event of this
magnitude should have been visible over a very large area. In the past,
events like this have turned out to be man-made events coming from
something on the ground.

Cheers,
Marc Fries






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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:30:54 -0700
From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Rob Matson
   mojave_meteori...@cox.net, Marc Fries marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov
Subject: [meteorite-list] Debris Cloud Found from Shreveport,  LA Boom
   Event 13OCT2014
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List,
Debris Cloud Found on Radar from Shreveport, LA Boom Event 13OCT2014
according to the National Weather Service.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/shreveport-louisiana-loud
-boom-meteor.html

Rob and Marc can you take a look and see what the NWS claims they found;
thank you.

Dirk Ross...Tokyo



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

[drtanuki via Meteorite-list]

Marc,  Thanks! Mystery plot continues  
 BTW,  the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- 
http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/

Dirk...Tokyo


- Original Message -
From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) via Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

Howdy, all

I¹ve examined this event and I don¹t agree that this feature is a debris
cloud.  It is visible in radar imagery about 15 minutes prior to the
eyewitness accounts of sonic booms. It is also missing some of the
diagnostic features of a meteorite fall, namely internal turbulence that
fades within minutes of the event, high-altitude signatures, a sequential
appearance due to size sorting of falling debris, and other features in
the various radar data products. This feature moves laterally the whole
time it is visible and appears prior to the event; looks like weather to
me.
There is a feature just NE of Shreveport that is interesting but not
conclusively a meteorite fall.  There are turbulence features seen in the
Shreveport radar and reflectivity features seen at long range from the
Fort Polk radar.  I¹m not convinced that these features are related
either, but we are talking them over. One feature of this event that
troubles me is that there aren¹t any eyewitness reports on the AMS
reporting page. Even though the area was overcast, an event of this
magnitude should have been visible over a very large area. In the past,
events like this have turned out to be man-made events coming from
something on the ground.

Cheers,
Marc Fries






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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:30:54 -0700
From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Rob Matson
mojave_meteori...@cox.net, Marc Fries marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov
Subject: [meteorite-list] Debris Cloud Found from Shreveport,LA Boom
Event 13OCT2014
Message-ID:
1413347454.26369.yahoomail...@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

List,
Debris Cloud Found on Radar from Shreveport, LA Boom Event 13OCT2014
according to the National Weather Service.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/shreveport-louisiana-loud
-boom-meteor.html

Rob and Marc can you take a look and see what the NWS claims they found;
thank you.

Dirk Ross...Tokyo



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

[drtanuki via Meteorite-list]

Marc and List,
We have earwitness reports for what they are worth.  Two persons reported that 
the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle on that 
side.
The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up.  
Thanks.  Dirk...Tokyo


- Original Message -
From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov
To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

True!  Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports
-=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for
all eyewitness reporting sites.

Cheers,
Marc Fries




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Marc,  Thanks! Mystery plot continues
 BTW,  the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is
advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/

Dirk...Tokyo


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

[FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) via Meteorite-list]

True!  Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports
-=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for
all eyewitness reporting sites.

Cheers,
Marc Fries

On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:

Marc,  Thanks! Mystery plot continues
 BTW,  the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is
advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/

Dirk...Tokyo


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

You do know that there are Air Force bases in Louisiana right? It could easily 
be sonic boom produced by jet. 

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:28 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 
 Marc and List,
 We have earwitness reports for what they are worth.  Two persons reported 
 that the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle 
 on that side.
 The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up.  
 Thanks.  Dirk...Tokyo
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov
 To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
 
 True!  Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports
 -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for
 all eyewitness reporting sites.
 
 Cheers,
 Marc Fries
 
 
 
 
 On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Marc,  Thanks! Mystery plot continues
 BTW,  the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is
 advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/
 
 Dirk...Tokyo
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

[drtanuki via Meteorite-list]

Mike,  Yes of course I know.  All of the reports and the witnesses I spoke with 
said that this was NOT a sonic boom from an aircraft. One witness x-military AF 
said not aircraft.  One report from TX is 35 miles from Shreveport... a bit far 
for an aircraft sonic boom to travel.  The military claims that is was not 
them. Pipelines and factories all checked clean.  Munition storage AFAWK all 
negative.
  The only fact we know is that there was a loud pop/ing followed by a rumbling 
loud boom that lasted up to 15 seconds. Windows rattled on w /NW sides of 
houses.  There was no weather with conditions to produce thunder.
  So for now we have the NWS saying debris trail but odd... 1000 feet to 1500 
feet rising; very low and they seem to be indicating, although not saying from 
a ground event??.  And we have Marc saying that the NWS debris is not debris 
and was there in the same location prior to the event.
  Any NOTAMs for the area? at that time?  I dont know and didnt check AND very 
unlikely.
  So this leaves us with an UBO - Unknown Booming Object or UBE - Event.  Me 
thinks that someone knows or should know but are not saying for good reasons.

Dirk...Tokyo


- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
Cc: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15

You do know that there are Air Force bases in Louisiana right? It could easily 
be sonic boom produced by jet. 

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:28 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 
 Marc and List,
 We have earwitness reports for what they are worth.  Two persons reported 
 that the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle 
 on that side.
 The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up.  
 Thanks.  Dirk...Tokyo
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov
 To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
 
 True!  Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports
 -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for
 all eyewitness reporting sites.
 
 Cheers,
 Marc Fries
 
 
 
 
 On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Marc,  Thanks! Mystery plot continues
 BTW,  the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is
 advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/
 
 Dirk...Tokyo
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 17

[Eric Christensen via Meteorite-list]

Hi all,

Pavel Spurny and his team are considered to be among the world's experts in 
instrumentally observed bolides.  Before dismissing this story as a scam based 
on a single image, you may wish to read the paper in its entirety:

http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2014/10/aa24308-14.pdf

paying special attention to the local conditions where the meteorites were 
found.  20 years of being repeatedly tilled under farmland soil in a wet 
European climate is hard on meteorites.  These were also thought to be 
meteorites that came from a violent, low-altitude disruption, so even if they 
initially had fusion crust or typical meteorite shapes, 20 years in the ground 
would have likely significantly altered their appearance.

Regards,

Eric Christensen

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meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote:




Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:55:34 -0700
From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
To: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments
discovered20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
Message-ID: 0682f844-abe9-497e-8703-1e0dbd612...@meteoriteguy.com
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8

Sorry but fake as crap, clearly ancient NWA meteorite. Pultusk stones are still 
being 150 years after the fall and they don't even look hardly weathers at all, 
same wet climate.
Sorry but I call a scam, 
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:53 PM, MEM via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 
 
 www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm
 
 Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
 Date: October 14, 2014
 Source: Astronomy  Astrophysics
 Summary: Scientists have discovered meteorite fragments 20 years after the 
 corresponding bolide 
 was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made possible 
 by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330 meters. 
 Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of 
 different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous composition.
 
 
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 17

[Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list]

Hi Eric,

I don't think anyone is questioning the integrity of the scientists involved.

Rather, there are two obvious problems that are raised by that single image :

1) the presence of what appears to be desert varnish on the stones - a
process not seen in meteorites from non-desert locales.  Weathering in
wet climes typically produces an appearance quite different from the
glossy varnish seen on these stones.

2) the presence of two different petrologic types from the same fall.

In the case of #1, appearances can be deceiving, so that may not be
desert varnish, although it certainly looks like it.  Perhaps someone
with expertise in this area can comment (i.e. Dr. Garvie).

In the case of #2, multiple types from the same fall is not unheard
of, but is very rare.

I will read the entire paper though, out of curiosity, and perhaps it
can clarify these points.

Best regards,

MikeG

PS - thanks for the link to the paper.  :)


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On 10/16/14, Eric Christensen via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Pavel Spurny and his team are considered to be among the world's experts in
 instrumentally observed bolides.  Before dismissing this story as a scam
 based on a single image, you may wish to read the paper in its entirety:

 http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2014/10/aa24308-14.pdf

 paying special attention to the local conditions where the meteorites were
 found.  20 years of being repeatedly tilled under farmland soil in a wet
 European climate is hard on meteorites.  These were also thought to be
 meteorites that came from a violent, low-altitude disruption, so even if
 they initially had fusion crust or typical meteorite shapes, 20 years in the
 ground would have likely significantly altered their appearance.

 Regards,

 Eric Christensen

 ---

 On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:31 PM,
 meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com
 meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote:




 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:55:34 -0700
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [Geology2] Meteorite fragments
 discovered20 years after bolide event in Czech Republic
 Message-ID: 0682f844-abe9-497e-8703-1e0dbd612...@meteoriteguy.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8

 Sorry but fake as crap, clearly ancient NWA meteorite. Pultusk stones are
 still being 150 years after the fall and they don't even look hardly
 weathers at all, same wet climate.
 Sorry but I call a scam,
 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:53 PM, MEM via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:


 www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141014142736.htm

 Meteorite fragments discovered 20 years after bolide event in Czech
 Republic
 Date: October 14, 2014
 Source: Astronomy  Astrophysics
 Summary: Scientists have discovered meteorite fragments 20 years after the
 corresponding bolide
 was seen in the skies of the Czech Republic. This discovery was made
 possible by reanalyzing the trajectory, which moved the impact line by 330
 meters. Interestingly, the meteorites found on the ground are of
 different types, pointing to a parent asteroid of heterogeneous
 composition.




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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 133, Issue 22

[ian macleod via Meteorite-list]

Mike Miller was the man who sold me my first ever meteorite three years ago, 
our prayers go out to his family and e are believing for healing for Mike. What 
ever the illness is - we pray it is diagnosed and treated quickly

Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three 
strands is not quickly broken
God Bless
Ian 8013

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3

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Derek , 

I used FeCL3 and no issues fit 2 years on a Campo de Cielo. Only thing is that 
it stains clothes so be careful and wear old raggedy shirts etc.

Best if luck ,
Frank Spitz

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   4. Ferric Cloride (mine...@optonline.net)
   5. Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 28 - May 2, 2014 (Ron Baalke)
   6. AD: Black Beauty, New Lodranite and So Much More! (Ruben Garcia)
   7. Subject:  Membership disabled? (ian macleod)
   8. NASA Scientists Have 3D-Printed A Replica Of AMeteorite On
  Mars (Shawn Alan)
   9. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 12:16:24 -0700
 From: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite Fall Hammer Stone question ?
 To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:

 20140502121624.e8713c95af9984a493c5db01816d4c10.34676cbe50@email22.secureserver.net

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Hello Listers
 
 I have been wondering about the Moss fall and had some questions. I know
 out of the stones recovered, most of them are Hammer Stones, and a
 couple arnt. I now that Mike Farmer found a nice stone that hit
 pavement, making it a non hammer stone. I have also read that a couple
 of these stones were donated. One stone I have a question about is the
 one that hit the fence. I was wondering, the two people that found the
 meteorite that hit the fence, was it Mazur and Sorheim? If anyone has
 any information on this please let me know on the list of email :) 
 
 Shawn Alan
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 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 Website http://meteoritefalls.com 
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 20:15:26 + (GMT)
 From: mine...@optonline.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Test
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: e93ac5b81cf0.5363f...@optonline.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 This is a test
 
 
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 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 20:16:30 + (GMT)
 From: mine...@optonline.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ferric Cloride
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: f82ae7d56ff8.5363f...@optonline.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Is there any long term negative effects to etching?with ferric chloride 
 versus nitric? ?I know that it delivers a better etch and is less dangerous, 
 ?but I'm hesitant of interducing?chlorine into the specimen. ?Any help from 
 people who have use this material in the past would be greatly 
 appreciated.Thanks, Derek.?
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 4
 Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 20:09:46 + (GMT)
 From: mine...@optonline.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ferric Cloride
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: e7febb6968eb.5363f...@optonline.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Is there any long term negative effects to etching?with ferric chloride 
 versus nitric? ?I know that it delivers a better etch and is less dangerous, 
 ?but I'm hesitant of interducing?chlorine into the specimen. ?Any help from 
 people who have use this material in the past would be greatly 
 appreciated.Thanks, Derek.?
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 5
 Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 14:12:57 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 28 - May
2, 2014
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 Message-ID: 201405022112.s42lcvnk017...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 
 MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
 April 28 - May 2, 2014
 
 o Granicus Valles (28 April 2014)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20140428a
 
 o Channels (29 April 2014)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20140429a
 
 o Alluvial Fans (30 April 2014)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20140430a
 
 o Lava Flows (01 May 2014)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20140501a
 
 o Polar Dunes (02 May 2014)
  

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Peter Scherff]

Hi,
A simple way to make the list more informative would be if people when
responding to posts of a general nature would reply to all. Whenever I ask a
question about half of the responses that I receive are directed only to me.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the responses. However I think that the
whole list should have the benefit of them, unless there is a good reason
not to include the general meteorite community.

Thanks,

Peter  

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John
Cabassi
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:39 PM
To: Jim Wooddell
Cc: met-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Well said Jim and I'll give you a like.  Traditions are changing. I was very
adamant at first and held back from social media but it was the only way
that I could keep in contact with my family. And yes, the days of forums are
slowly dying unless you incorporate them into the social media, as Nugget
Shooters has as well as many others.

Just my $1.50AU

Cheers
John

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wrote:
 Hi all!

 I have posted specific and not so specific meteorite related questions 
 here where Melinda Hutson, Alan Rubin and Carl Agee have answered my 
 questions privately and here on this list.  I absolutely appreciate 
 this.
 I do this because I do have questions and I want good answers, which I 
 receive here.
 I have received private emails complementing this effort to involve 
 listees in my search for better understanding.

 So if you are a complainer, suck it up and quit your belly aching and 
 get over it.

 You are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

 I do admit, FB is great for sharing my Meteorite related stuff. My 
 page is mostly about meteorite stuff which I am actively and 
 constantly involved with.  And, there is not one single Ad on there 
 for meteorites!
 Many of you are there and I appreciate that and hope you enjoy my sharing.
 That said, many or most all of the meteorite related lists have died 
 out and nothing much is being posted...so it is not just this list.

 I completely disagree that any list should direct what topic is to be 
 discussed for any given time as someone suggested.

 So I switch you back to your normally scheduled activities and I will 
 go back to watching epoxy mounts of green beach sand and NWA 
 7831/Kilbourne hole green stuff cure thanks to Gary and Greg!

 Best to all!

 Jim

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[Shawn Alan]

Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go to 
the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you go to 
Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and age, 
people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before 
the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not 
sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping 
it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the 
website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some 
MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite 
Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends in social media and how 
websites work today with instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art  to 
how it was :)
 
Shawn Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Anne Black]

Shawn,

There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th.
Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the 
Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent 
several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of 
these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault.


Check your computer settings.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't 
go to
the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you 
go to
Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and 
age, people
want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before 
the over
haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure 
why Art
did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. 
Art, I
wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 
10 to 15
times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail 
list that
shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its 
dated and not
prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today 
with

instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Anne Black]

... and as you can see from this, posting is instantaneous.


Anne M. Black
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impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: photophlow photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


Shawn,

There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th.
Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the
Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent
several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of
these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault.

Check your computer settings.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't
go to
the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
go to
Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
age, people
want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before
the over
haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure
why Art
did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it.
Art, I
wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website
10 to 15
times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail
list that
shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its
dated and not
prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today
with
instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Shawn Alan]

Anne
 
Go to Meteorite Central and .com and click on Click on list archives click on 
2014 and click on march date and the last posting is march 5th so u see
there has been many posting since then which are posted on the website, so it 
is Arts fault the way has done the new lay out. Before the over haul, I would 
make a post, and it would show up on meteorite central website within minutes. 
Now it take 5 to 10 days, unless you get everyones emails.
 
S


- Original Message -
From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Shawn,

There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th.
Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the 
Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent 
several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of 
these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault.

Check your computer settings.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't 
go to
the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you 
go to
Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and 
age, people
want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before 
the over
haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure 
why Art
did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it. 
Art, I
wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website 
10 to 15
times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail 
list that
shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its 
dated and not
prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today 
with
instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Shawn Alan]

well yeah cause you have your setting set up as u get every email from 
meteorite central sent to your in box. But my statement isn't about the email 
system it about the website and the website isn't instant, take a look and see 
for your self ...
 
http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/2014/mar/date.html
 
m march 5th is current posting, were is todays? m
 
before Art changed the website, posts were instant on the website :) but not 
now :( its snail mail.
 
S


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From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

... and as you can see from this, posting is instantaneous.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: photophlow photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


Shawn,

There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th.
Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the
Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent
several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of
these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault.

Check your computer settings.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't
go to
the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
go to
Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
age, people
want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before
the over
haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure
why Art
did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it.
Art, I
wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website
10 to 15
times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail
list that
shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its
dated and not
prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today
with
instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Martin Goff]

Anne,

I think Shawn is referring to the list archives, I also used to use
this method rather than getting every message by email as it came
through. I would have this webpage permanently open on mt laptop and
on my phone and refresh it to see the latest posts. As the number of
posts has reduced drastically i now  to the individual emails. Shawn
is correct in saying though that the archives now have a huge delay in
posts appearing so if you dont subscribe to the individual emails then
you wont see all posts and certainly not in real time.

I understand what you say in that not everyone uses facebook or wants
to use it but i have found that much of the meteorite talk happens
there and without it there is a lot that is being missed out on. As
Matt says, you can post any number of photos that can all be commented
on, there are numerous meteorite related 'groups' that you can
subscribe to. I also like the fact that i can mix personal and
meteorite related posts so if i post a photo of my daughter for
example i find that friends from the meteorite community also comment
on the image and so my web of friends has vastly extended. It is very
interactive and there have been some great discussions on meteorites
too. Also there are quite a few meteorite scientists on there too :-)
I have noted quite a posts that have been made to the metlist and then
repeated on one of the meteorite facebook groups. Whilst the metlist
post recieves no replies, the identical facebook post sees numerous
replies and sparks off a great discussion. I would hate to see the
metlist stop and am very appreciative of the time and money Art has
put into it but my 2 cents is it certainly needs to change somehow to
keep up and compete with facebook.

Cheers

Martin

On 10 March 2014 19:55, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Anne

 Go to Meteorite Central and .com and click on Click on list archives click on 
 2014 and click on march date and the last posting is march 5th so u see
 there has been many posting since then which are posted on the website, so it 
 is Arts fault the way has done the new lay out. Before the over haul, I would 
 make a post, and it would show up on meteorite central website within 
 minutes. Now it take 5 to 10 days, unless you get everyones emails.

 S


 - Original Message -
 From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
 To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

 Shawn,

 There have been quite a few postings on the MetList since March 5th.
 Paul announced the new issue of Meteorite-Times, I commented on the
 Tektites, Doug Ross announced several bright meteors, Ron Baalke sent
 several press-releases from NASA,.. etc. If you did not see any of
 these it is not the MetList's or Art's fault.

 Check your computer settings.


 Anne M. Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 impact...@aol.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 1:35 pm
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid


 Hello Listers

 My two cents

 The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't
 go to
 the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
 go to
 Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
 age, people
 want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central before
 the over
 haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the website, not sure
 why Art
 did this, but it sounds like its hurting the website then helping it.
 Art, I
 wish the website went back to the way it was, I would go to the website
 10 to 15
 times a day if not more, now I don't go, I have a link to some MC mail
 list that
 shows the postings, but for real time use on Meteorite Central its
 dated and not
 prevalent to current trends in social media and how websites work today
 with
 instant posting. Please fix Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Bob Loeffler]

In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on
meteorite central before the over haul.

Hi Shawn,

In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous.  I have
never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list.  Is there
a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
email?  IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
archaic, but maybe you have your reasons.  I used to do that on Compuserve
20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
automatically to email?  It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that you
have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc.  But like I said,
maybe you have your reasons.

Regards,

Bob L.


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From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go
to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central
before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I don't
go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for real
time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends
in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please fix
Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)
 
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Galactic Stone Ironworks]

Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
interesting and educational.  Some of the best planetary-scientists in
the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
fascinating stuff.  I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook.  Many regular
posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook.  And, people
have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
indefinitely.  It's selective memory.  In the last couple of months.
we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
planetary science.  Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
(and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights.  Those
posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
sometimes busy, sometimes not.  And, there are actually fewer ads now
than there used to be years ago.  Many of the people that used to post
ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
years.  New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
ads are more noticeable.

Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List.  :)
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On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
 In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on
 meteorite central before the over haul.

 Hi Shawn,

 In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous.  I have
 never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list.  Is there
 a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
 email?  IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
 archaic, but maybe you have your reasons.  I used to do that on Compuserve
 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
 community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
 automatically to email?  It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
 you
 have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
 Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc.  But like I said,
 maybe you have your reasons.

 Regards,

 Bob L.


 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
 Alan
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
 To: Meteorite Central
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

 Hello Listers

 My two cents

 The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go
 to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
 go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
 age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central
 before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
 website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
 website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
 was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I
 don't
 go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for
 real
 time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends
 in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please
 fix
 Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[karmaka]

 And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all these 
years going and flourishing.

Yes, let's do that! 

 Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List.

I agree! Serious meteorite-related discussions and exchange require texts, no 
'thumbs up' !

Quality information about meteorites belongs HERE first!

Best regards

Martin


 
 

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Von: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
An: Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com
Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in
the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular
posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people
have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months.
we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
(and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those
posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now
than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post
ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
ads are more noticeable.

Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :)
--
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Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - 
http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone[http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone]
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone[http://twitter.com/galacticstone]
Pinterest - 
http://pinterest.com/galacticstone[http://pinterest.com/galacticstone]
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On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
 In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on
 meteorite central before the over haul.

 Hi Shawn,

 In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I have
 never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is there
 a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
 email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
 archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve
 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
 community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
 automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
 you
 have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
 Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said,
 maybe you have your reasons.

 Regards,

 Bob L.


 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
 Alan
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
 To: Meteorite Central
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

 Hello Listers

 My two cents

 The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go
 to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
 go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
 age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central
 before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
 website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
 website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
 was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I
 don't
 go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for
 real
 time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends
 in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please
 fix
 Meteorite Central Art to how it was :)

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html[http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html]
 http://meteoritefalls.com/[http://meteoritefalls.com/]
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[PolandMET]

And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all 
these years going and flourishing.

Yes, let's do that!
Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the 
Met-List.
I agree! Serious meteorite-related discussions and exchange require texts, 
no 'thumbs up' !

Quality information about meteorites belongs HERE first!
Best regards
Martin


So..
New classified interesting and rare meteorite anoucement is quality 
information or its spam ? I have feeling that its spam and will be banned or 
limited.


Looks like till 31 march I can send email to the list like this:
I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 for sale
but from 1st aprill...
I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 in my collection

Is that correct ? :)

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]










Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2014 um 21:39 Uhr
Von: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
An: Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com
Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in
the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular
posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people
have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months.
we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
(and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those
posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now
than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post
ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
ads are more noticeable.

Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :)
--
-
Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - 
http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone[http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone]
Twitter - 
http://twitter.com/galacticstone[http://twitter.com/galacticstone]
Pinterest - 
http://pinterest.com/galacticstone[http://pinterest.com/galacticstone]

-




On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was 
on

meteorite central before the over haul.

Hi Shawn,

In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I 
have
never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is 
there

a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve
20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
you
have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said,
maybe you have your reasons.

Regards,

Bob L.


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
Alan
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't 
go
to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if 
you
go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day 
and
age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite 
central

before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Carl Agee]

What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant
idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't
have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a
blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never
get to see them -- and it can feel silent.


Carl Agee
*
Carl B. Agee
Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/



On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
 interesting and educational.  Some of the best planetary-scientists in
 the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
 fascinating stuff.  I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
 a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook.  Many regular
 posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook.  And, people
 have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
 indefinitely.  It's selective memory.  In the last couple of months.
 we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
 planetary science.  Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
 (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
 to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights.  Those
 posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

 In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
 sometimes busy, sometimes not.  And, there are actually fewer ads now
 than there used to be years ago.  Many of the people that used to post
 ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
 years.  New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
 it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
 seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
 ads are more noticeable.

 Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List.  :)
 --
 -
 Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
 Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
 -




 On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
 In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on
 meteorite central before the over haul.

 Hi Shawn,

 In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous.  I have
 never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list.  Is there
 a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
 email?  IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
 archaic, but maybe you have your reasons.  I used to do that on Compuserve
 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
 community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
 automatically to email?  It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
 you
 have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
 Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc.  But like I said,
 maybe you have your reasons.

 Regards,

 Bob L.


 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
 Alan
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
 To: Meteorite Central
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

 Hello Listers

 My two cents

 The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go
 to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
 go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
 age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central
 before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
 website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
 website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
 was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I
 don't
 go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for
 real
 time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends
 in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please
 fix
 Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Graham Ensor]

Like ;-)


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant
 idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't
 have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a
 blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never
 get to see them -- and it can feel silent.


 Carl Agee
 *
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/



 On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
 meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
 interesting and educational.  Some of the best planetary-scientists in
 the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
 fascinating stuff.  I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
 a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook.  Many regular
 posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook.  And, people
 have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
 indefinitely.  It's selective memory.  In the last couple of months.
 we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
 planetary science.  Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
 (and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
 to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights.  Those
 posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

 In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
 sometimes busy, sometimes not.  And, there are actually fewer ads now
 than there used to be years ago.  Many of the people that used to post
 ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
 years.  New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
 it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
 seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
 ads are more noticeable.

 Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List.  :)
 --
 -
 Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
 Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
 -




 On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
 In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on
 meteorite central before the over haul.

 Hi Shawn,

 In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous.  I have
 never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list.  Is there
 a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
 email?  IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
 archaic, but maybe you have your reasons.  I used to do that on Compuserve
 20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
 community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
 automatically to email?  It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
 you
 have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
 Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc.  But like I said,
 maybe you have your reasons.

 Regards,

 Bob L.


 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
 Alan
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
 To: Meteorite Central
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

 Hello Listers

 My two cents

 The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't go
 to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if you
 go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day and
 age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite central
 before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
 website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
 website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
 was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not more, now I
 don't
 go, I have a link to some MC mail list that shows the postings, but for
 real
 time use on Meteorite Central its dated and not prevalent to current trends
 in social media and how websites work today with instant posting. Please
 fix
 Meteorite Central Art  to how it was :)

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
 __

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 Meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[PolandMET]

What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant
idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't
have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a
blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never
get to see them -- and it can feel silent.

Carl Agee


Well said Carl!

Some persons dont like/understand or affraid of social media platforms (my 
parents :)  like Facebook. But hey, lets compare Met-list and Facebook to 
Radio and TV.


When You hear news during our ride in the car, it causes that You do not 
watch the news on TV later ? No, You watch TV becouse it offers more 
informations than radio. And even if radio is still usefull in some 
situation we spend more time watching TV. Yes ?


Same is here. Met-list is perfect for longer discussion while Facebook is 
better for fast news, sales, PHOTOS and MOVIES etc.


So dont be affraid, You dont need to share Your private life there. But 
places like Meteorite group where at the moment we have 1291 members is 
great upgrade.




-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





*
Carl B. Agee
Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/



On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
interesting and educational.  Some of the best planetary-scientists in
the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
fascinating stuff.  I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook.  Many regular
posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook.  And, people
have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
indefinitely.  It's selective memory.  In the last couple of months.
we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
planetary science.  Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
(and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights.  Those
posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
sometimes busy, sometimes not.  And, there are actually fewer ads now
than there used to be years ago.  Many of the people that used to post
ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
years.  New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
ads are more noticeable.

Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List.  :)
--
-
Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
-




On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was 
on

meteorite central before the over haul.

Hi Shawn,

In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous.  I 
have
never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list.  Is 
there

a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
email?  IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
archaic, but maybe you have your reasons.  I used to do that on 
Compuserve

20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
automatically to email?  It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
you
have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc.  But like I said,
maybe you have your reasons.

Regards,

Bob L.


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
Alan
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't 
go
to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if 
you
go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[almitt2]

Greetings all,

One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the 
meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually 
involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active 
million people wanting to discuss the subject.


I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are 
capable of looking up their own information without someone posting 
multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway. 
It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new 
comers.


Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic 
ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post 
before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many 
informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here)


We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a 
helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss. 
Could also be once a month.


Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two 
years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on 
the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get 
discussion going.


The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable level.

Just some ideas.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites
25 years as a dealer

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[rickmont]

Hi LIST!   Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure.  How did Gujba form?
Richard Rick Bob Montgomery

-Original Message- 
From: almi...@localnet.com

Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Greetings all,

One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the
meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually
involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active
million people wanting to discuss the subject.

I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are
capable of looking up their own information without someone posting
multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new
comers.

Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic
ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post
before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many
informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here)

We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a
helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss.
Could also be once a month.

Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two
years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on
the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get
discussion going.

The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable 
level.


Just some ideas.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites
25 years as a dealer

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[valparint]

Please excuse my prior post. My fingers are fat today.


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[valparint]

 Looks like till 31 march I can send email to the list like this:
 I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 for sale
 but from 1st aprill...
 I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 in my collection
 
 Is that correct ? :)
 
 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[PolandMET]

damn, 
You just won prize for Best question of the month !


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Hi LIST!   Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure.  How did Gujba form?
Richard Rick Bob Montgomery

-Original Message- 
From: almi...@localnet.com

Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Greetings all,

One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the
meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually
involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active
million people wanting to discuss the subject.

I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are
capable of looking up their own information without someone posting
multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new
comers.

Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic
ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post
before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many
informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here)

We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a
helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss.
Could also be once a month.

Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two
years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on
the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get
discussion going.

The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable 
level.


Just some ideas.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites
25 years as a dealer

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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Mike Tettenborn]

A quick google search yielded Eric Twelker’s site which, in turn, references a 
great intro to Gujba article.  See: 
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2002/pdf/1551.pdf

Cheers!

Mike Tettenborn
Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
t...@rogers.com



On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:14 PM, rickm...@earthlink.net rickm...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 Hi LIST!   Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure.  How did Gujba form?
 Richard Rick Bob Montgomery
 
 -Original Message- From: almi...@localnet.com
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
 
 Greetings all,
 
 One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the
 meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually
 involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active
 million people wanting to discuss the subject.
 
 I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are
 capable of looking up their own information without someone posting
 multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway.
 It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new
 comers.
 
 Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic
 ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post
 before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many
 informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here)
 
 We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a
 helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss.
 Could also be once a month.
 
 Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two
 years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on
 the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get
 discussion going.
 
 The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable level.
 
 Just some ideas.
 
 --AL Mitterling
 Mitterling Meteorites
 25 years as a dealer
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[Jim Wooddell]

Hi all!

I have posted specific and not so specific meteorite related questions 
here where Melinda Hutson, Alan Rubin
and Carl Agee have answered my questions privately and here on this 
list.  I absolutely appreciate this.
I do this because I do have questions and I want good answers, which I 
receive here.
I have received private emails complementing this effort to involve 
listees in my search for better understanding.


So if you are a complainer, suck it up and quit your belly aching and 
get over it.


You are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

I do admit, FB is great for sharing my Meteorite related stuff. My page 
is mostly about meteorite stuff
which I am actively and constantly involved with.  And, there is not one 
single Ad on there for meteorites!

Many of you are there and I appreciate that and hope you enjoy my sharing.
That said, many or most all of the meteorite related lists have died out 
and nothing much is being posted...so it

is not just this list.

I completely disagree that any list should direct what topic is to be 
discussed for any given time as someone

suggested.

So I switch you back to your normally scheduled activities and I will go 
back to watching epoxy mounts of green
beach sand and NWA 7831/Kilbourne hole green stuff cure thanks to Gary 
and Greg!


Best to all!

Jim

--
Jim Wooddell
jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net
http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/

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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[John Cabassi]

Well said Jim and I'll give you a like.  Traditions are changing. I
was very adamant at first and held back from social media but it was
the only way that I could keep in contact with my family. And yes, the
days of forums are slowly dying unless you incorporate them into the
social media, as Nugget Shooters has as well as many others.

Just my $1.50AU

Cheers
John

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Jim Wooddell
jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 Hi all!

 I have posted specific and not so specific meteorite related questions here
 where Melinda Hutson, Alan Rubin
 and Carl Agee have answered my questions privately and here on this list.  I
 absolutely appreciate this.
 I do this because I do have questions and I want good answers, which I
 receive here.
 I have received private emails complementing this effort to involve listees
 in my search for better understanding.

 So if you are a complainer, suck it up and quit your belly aching and get
 over it.

 You are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

 I do admit, FB is great for sharing my Meteorite related stuff. My page is
 mostly about meteorite stuff
 which I am actively and constantly involved with.  And, there is not one
 single Ad on there for meteorites!
 Many of you are there and I appreciate that and hope you enjoy my sharing.
 That said, many or most all of the meteorite related lists have died out and
 nothing much is being posted...so it
 is not just this list.

 I completely disagree that any list should direct what topic is to be
 discussed for any given time as someone
 suggested.

 So I switch you back to your normally scheduled activities and I will go
 back to watching epoxy mounts of green
 beach sand and NWA 7831/Kilbourne hole green stuff cure thanks to Gary and
 Greg!

 Best to all!

 Jim

 --
 Jim Wooddell
 jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net
 http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 125, Issue 36

[Marc Fries]

Howdy all

    I'm looking for a meteorite to buy or borrow for a scientific study.  Does 
anyone have a piece of Happy(a)?  It is listed as an H3 but appears to be an 
impact melt, at least in part.  Please contact me off-list at 
mfri...@hotmail.com

Cheers,
Marc Fries
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 123, Issue 35

[James Masny]

The Diggers may be ok guys, but that show is complete crap.  Like
Farmer said, every one of those shows is staged and phony.  It's nice
to see some cool historical items here and there, but without the
scripted drama.  Can't watch it without my BP boiling.

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 Today's Topics:

1. OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launchfrom
   Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour (Matson, Robert D.)
2. Re: OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch from
   Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour (Alexander Seidel)
3. Re: OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launchfrom
   Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour (Linton Rohr)
4. Re: OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch from
   Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour (Alexander Seidel)
5. Re: OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch (Ron Baalke)
6. Re: san luis potosi,  mexico daytime bolide 21AUG2013 videos
   (Graham Ensor)
7. 17.55 kilo Brenham slice (imca5098)
8. Re: 17.55 kilo Brenham slice (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)
9. Re: 17.55 kilo Brenham slice (Luther Jackson)
   10. San Luis Potosi Meteor (Count Deiro)
   11. Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC (Greg Hup?)
   12. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC
   (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)
   13. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC (Anne Black)
   14. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC
   (Michael Mulgrew)
   15. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC (Adam Hupe)
   16. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC
   (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)
   17. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC (Michael Farmer)
   18. Diggers - No Meteorites (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)
   19. Met Bulletin Update - NWA OC and USA OC.
   (Galactic Stone  Ironworks)
   20. Re: Diggers - No Meteorites (Adam Hupe)
   21. Re: Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC
   (Michael Mulgrew)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:59:51 -0700
 From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy
 launch  from Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour
 To: Dan M dannysp...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:
 7c640e28081aee4b952f008d1e913f17081d9...@0461-its-exmb04.us.saic.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=US-ASCII

 Hi Dan/All,

 A live feed of the Delta 4 Heavy launch will be webcast on the ULA
 website
 starting in about 30 minutes:

 http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/pages/Webcast.shtml

 --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dan M
 Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:59 PM
 To: Meteorite-list
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Definitely a rocket launch Wednesday morning
 onWest Coast.

 http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/billcarroll.html?article=11606724#.Uh0gqtU
 dLBQ.gmail



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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:18:45 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Alexander Seidel alex.sei...@gmx.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy
 launch from Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour
 To: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:
 
 trinity-7f7e4aef-84c1-462c-9f49-c47f4eea68c8-1377713925266@3capp-gmx-bs11

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Just watched the launch via webcast - exciting! Thanks, Rob, for sharing
 the info. Reminds me of some old days in Florida, at the Eastern, the
 Atlantic coast. This one is going into a 97 deg inclination retrograde orbit,
 right? Hope to see it visually some time in the future on a clear night..

 Thanks again,
 Alex
 Stade/Berlin, Germany



 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. August 2013 um 18:59 Uhr
 Von: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 An: Dan M dannysp...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch 
 from Vandenberg AFB in  1 hour

 Hi Dan/All,

 A live feed of the Delta 4 Heavy launch will be webcast on the ULA
 website
 starting in about 30 minutes:

 http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/pages/Webcast.shtml

 --Rob

 -Original Message

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 118, Issue 52

[James Masny]

Every night I am home I walk my dog a few times hoping to view a
potential rock dropper.  Of course, tonight I was out at a comedy
show.  Unbelievable.  I live in Skippack, outside of Philly, and a
hunt would be possible for me if there are potential rocks on the
ground in the  area.
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 Message: 16
 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:10:17 -0700 (PDT)
 From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Breaking News- MBIQ Detects NJ MD DC VT NY
 PA  Bolide Fireball Meteor 22MAR2013
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:
 1363997417.49240.yahoomailclas...@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Dear List,

 Breaking News- MBIQ Detects NJ MD DC VT NY PA Bolide Fireball Meteor 22MAR2013
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/03/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-nj-md-dc-vt.html

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 118, Issue 40

[James Masny]

 Message: 13
 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:00:18 -0700
 From: valpar...@aol.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: CE5C83F633A64F79911C94D719FA0E6A@Seuthopolis
 Content-Type: text/plain

 Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chelyabinsk

 Contributed by: Mike Farmer

 http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp


*

Hi Michael (and list) - would you happen to know when these will be available?
Cheers!
Jim
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 56

[James Masny]

What's this about Sequel slices being sold by Mr. Anold?

All the best
Jim


 Message: 9
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:46:45 -0600
 From: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) a few meteorites for sale
 To: steve arnold chicagosteve1...@gmail.com
 Cc: meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: 8ca5cc34-e421-49b3-8eca-88ae565c7...@aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 Is this some form of new advertising?

 Steve- You really should correct your name in your signature. If anything, it 
 makes you look more reputable and competent to potential buyers.

 Just a friendly  suggestion :)

 Best,
 Brndon D.

 On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Steve do you have anymore of the sequel slices you posted about a week 
 ago?
 Don
 - Original Message - From: steve arnold 
 chicagosteve1...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:53 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) a few meteorites for sale


 Hello list. I have a few meteorites for sale. I have a 7 gram imichil
 iron, $25, I also have (2)  5 gram imichil irons both $20. I also have
 a small group of small oriented nwa 869 $50, I also have a 344 gram
 99.9 % fusion crusted black beauty unclassed stoney. This is a must
 see. $450 OBO. And finally I have a 171 gram oriented black beauty
 $375 OBO. This also a unclassed stoney. As usual off list please and
 it is a new week so 1 ad per week. And free shipping. Thanks and pics
 upon asking.

 --
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 56

[Graham Ensor]

Hi James.I think they are very rare slices that you never get the
chance to see because the photo is always in the next email to come
;-)

Graham

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:04 PM, James Masny sciflye...@gmail.com wrote:
 What's this about Sequel slices being sold by Mr. Anold?

 All the best
 Jim


 Message: 9
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:46:45 -0600
 From: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) a few meteorites for sale
 To: steve arnold chicagosteve1...@gmail.com
 Cc: meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID: 8ca5cc34-e421-49b3-8eca-88ae565c7...@aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 Is this some form of new advertising?

 Steve- You really should correct your name in your signature. If anything, 
 it makes you look more reputable and competent to potential buyers.

 Just a friendly  suggestion :)

 Best,
 Brndon D.

 On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com 
 wrote:

 Hi Steve do you have anymore of the sequel slices you posted about a week 
 ago?
 Don
 - Original Message - From: steve arnold 
 chicagosteve1...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:53 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) a few meteorites for sale


 Hello list. I have a few meteorites for sale. I have a 7 gram imichil
 iron, $25, I also have (2)  5 gram imichil irons both $20. I also have
 a small group of small oriented nwa 869 $50, I also have a 344 gram
 99.9 % fusion crusted black beauty unclassed stoney. This is a must
 see. $450 OBO. And finally I have a 171 gram oriented black beauty
 $375 OBO. This also a unclassed stoney. As usual off list please and
 it is a new week so 1 ad per week. And free shipping. Thanks and pics
 upon asking.

 --
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 19

[Benjamin P. Sun]

 Message 

 Message: 13
 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:08:52 -0800 (PST)
 From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
 Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Message-ID:
 1360854532.32627.yahoomail...@web122001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


 I want to be part of the The Committee to Save the Planet? As far as I
 know, the Earth is the only planet that still serves cold beer and where
 you can get a decent hamburger.

 Adam


 The Committee to Save the Planet: Who Watches the
 Asteroids? by Nina Burleigh, Time, February 12, 2013???
 http://world.time.com/2013/02/12/the-committee-to-save-the-planet-who-watches-the-asteroids/


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 Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:01:36 -0800 (PST)
 From: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: (meteorobs) [met-list] Moroc Long
   DurationFireball with smoketrail 13FEB2013
 To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
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 Message-ID:
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

  Original Message 
 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:55:55 +
 From: Esko Lyytinen esko.lyyti...@jippii.fi
 Subject: Re: (meteorobs) [meteorite-list] Moroc Long Duration Fireball
 ? ? with smoketrail 13FEB2013

 We had here in Finland probably the best meteorite dropping fireball
 that we have well captured in our cameras, in Feb, 16 , 2009 at 22 UT.
 The geocentric radiant of this was 48, +28 , so this could be connected
 to what you have now and maybe with what Dirk tells about.
 The Vinf was derived as 13.5 km/s.

 And actually we have during the years, around this time of the year, had
 some other expected quite good meteorite droppers (at least one of these
 outside our country borders) , with roughly similar solar system orbit.
 It would be interesting to get the orbits derived for yours.

 Keep all your cameras open, please ;)

 Esko


 On 2013-02-14 13:29, James Beauchamp wrote:

 Dirk , I've had three very slow events the last two days.? Radiant
 appears to be directly over head 38 degrees latitude, 8 PM central US
 time.

 Really slow, bright, with trails.

 - End of Original Message --

 In a nutshell, keep your allsky cameras fired-up!
 These observations are as good of an early-warning system as we will get.

 Can't say we weren't warned,
 -- CL
 (Chicken Little)




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 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:50:56 +0100
 From: Marco Langbroek marco.langbr...@online.nl
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Germany/Belgium,Holland Long Duration
   Bolide 13FEB2013
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 Hi Dirk, others,

 This fireball over NW Europe was actually the decay of a Russian Soyuz r/b,
 the
 3rd stage of the rocket that launched Progress-M 18M to the ISS on Feb
 11th.

 See my blog:
 http://sattrackcam.blogspot.nl/2013/02/fireball-over-nw-europe-of-evening-of.html

 - Marco

 
 Dr Marco (183294) Langbroek
 astero...@langbroek.org

 http://www.marcolangbroek.nl
 http://asteroids.marcolangbroek.nl
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 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:11:16 -0800 (PST)
 From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Near-Earth Asteroid 2012 DA14 Makes Preview
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 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-060

 Near-Earth Asteroid Makes Preview Appearance
 Jet Propulsion Laboratory
 February 14, 2013

 [Animation]
 This animated set of three images depicts asteroid 2012 DA14 as it was
 seen on Feb. 14, 2013 This animated set of three images depicts asteroid
 2012 DA14 as it was seen on Feb. 14, 2013, at a distance of 465,000
 miles (748,000 kilometers). The animation was created by astronomers at
 the Remanzacco Observatory in Italy using observations obtained remotely
 from the Faulkes Telescope South in Siding Springs, Australia. Image
 Image credit: LCOGT/Faulkes
 - Full image and caption
 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/multimedia/asteroid2012da14i.html

 Like trailers for the coming attraction, new images show asteroid 2012
 DA14 on its way to a record-close approach to Earth on Feb. 15. One
 image, taken by amateur astronomer Dave Herald of Murrumbateman,
 Australia, on Feb. 13, shows the asteroid as a tiny white dot in the
 field of view. Another set of animated images, obtained by the Faulkes
 Telescope South in Siding Springs, Australia, on Feb. 14, and animated

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 116, Issue 43

[Aziz Habibilp]

Dear carl
I prefer as I told you all 
Marroconaite in honor of morroco hunter that brought to science
Saharanite is ok
But habibite would be fun

Envoyé de mon iPhone

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 Yes Jeff, maybe dropping the acronym and just calling them all Martian may be 
 the sensible thing.
 After all, you don't want the general public SNCering at us, do ya?
 
 gary
 
 On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
 
 SNCPB?
 
 If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS?
 
 Or maybe we should just do the sensible thing and call them Martian 
 meteorites?
 
 Jeff
 
 On 1/24/2013 4:42 PM, h...@meteorhall.com wrote:
 Hi Paul,
   I like the SNCB. It sounds like a radio station's call letters...Stay
 tuned for all of your Martian meteorite news from SNCB.
 Regards, Fred H.
 
 How shall we organize the new class of Martian?
 
 Until now it has been SNC
 
 How about B or B squared for BASALTIC BRECCIA ?
 
 SNCB
 
 What say you all?
 
 -Paul Gessler
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 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:33:44 -0700
 From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu
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 Jeff,
 
 Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate the perverse things people
 do with words just to come up with a cool acronym. Making the new
 Martian meteorite acronym even half way cool requires some drastic
 measures, like giving NWA 7034 Basaltic Breccia Black Beauty a new
 name based on locality: I propose saharaite. So we now have the
 meteorites from Mars or SCANS
 
 S: shergottite
 C: chassignite
 A: ALH 84001
 N: nakhlite
 S: saharaite
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Carl Agee
 
 
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 Message: 19
 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:43:04 -0500
 From: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034
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 Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
 
 SNCPB?
 
 If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS?
 
 Or maybe we should just do the sensible thing and call them Martian
 meteorites?
 
 Jeff
 
 On 1/24/2013 4:42 PM, h...@meteorhall.com wrote:
 Hi Paul,
I like the SNCB. It sounds like a radio station's call letters...Stay
 tuned for all of your Martian meteorite news from SNCB.
 Regards, Fred H.
 
 How shall we organize the new class of Martian?
 
 Until now it has been SNC
 
 How about B or B 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 116, Issue 43

[Galactic Stone Ironworks]

I agree that the people of the Saharan Desert deserve to be honored
with a piece of meteorite nomenclature.  The residents of the Sahara
have done much to advance the science of meteoritics.  They deserve
some official recognition. Scientific nomnenclature is largely an
anglo-dominated affair peppered with words from dead classical
languages.  That should change with the times.

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG



On 1/25/13, Aziz Habibilp azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear carl
 I prefer as I told you all
 Marroconaite in honor of morroco hunter that brought to science
 Saharanite is ok
 But habibite would be fun

 Envoyé de mon iPhone

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 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034
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 Yes Jeff, maybe dropping the acronym and just calling them all Martian may
 be the sensible thing.
 After all, you don't want the general public SNCering at us, do ya?

 gary

 On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.

 SNCPB?

 If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about
 CANNS?

 Or maybe we should just do the sensible thing and call them Martian
 meteorites?

 Jeff

 On 1/24/2013 4:42 PM, h...@meteorhall.com wrote:
 Hi Paul,
   I like the SNCB. It sounds like a radio station's call
 letters...Stay
 tuned for all of your Martian meteorite news from SNCB.
 Regards, Fred H.

 How shall we organize the new class of Martian?

 Until now it has been SNC

 How about B or B squared for BASALTIC BRECCIA ?

 SNCB

 What say you all?

 -Paul Gessler
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 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:33:44 -0700
 From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu
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 Jeff,

 Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate the perverse things people
 do with words just to come up with a cool acronym. Making the new
 Martian meteorite acronym even half way cool requires some drastic
 measures, like giving NWA 7034 Basaltic Breccia Black Beauty a new
 name based on locality: I propose saharaite. So we now have the
 meteorites from Mars or SCANS

 S: shergottite
 C: chassignite
 A: ALH 84001
 N: nakhlite
 S: saharaite

 Enjoy!

 Carl Agee


 --
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 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/


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 Message: 19
 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:43:04 -0500
 From: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034
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 Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.

 SNCPB?

 If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A