Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Falls?

2021-05-17 Thread Finbarr Connolly via Meteorite-list
"September 26, 1939: Glanggang (H5-6, Indonesia) – Selakopi (H5,
Indonesia)"

those two locations are only 30 miles apart... on the same day... can they
really be separate falls?

F.

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 9:42 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
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> Since a few people (very few!  just 2!!) have answered, here is what I
> have found, using only official meteorites:
>
> August 25, 1865: Aumale (L6, Algeria) – Shergotty (Shergottite, India)
> June 30, 1908: Tunguska (unknown, Russia) – Kagarlyk (L6, Ukraine)
> August 28, 1925: Ellemeet (Diogenite, Netherlands) – Lanzenkirchen (L4,
> Austria)
> August 8, 1933: Sioux County (Eucrite, Nebraska) - Repeev-Khutor (Iron
> IIF, Russia)
> September 26, 1939: Glanggang (H5-6, Indonesia) – Selakopi (H5, Indonesia)
> September 17, 1945: Atoka (L6, Oklahoma) – Soroti (Iron OFF, Uganda)
> September 21, 1949: Akaba (L6, Jordan) – Beddgelert (H5, Wales UK)
> August 14, 1962: Bogou (Iron IAB, Burkina Faso) - Sao Jose do Rio Preto
> (H4, Brazil)
> October 30, 1994: Devri-Khera (L6, India) – Lohawat (Howardite, India)
> July 21, 2002: Kilabo (LL6, Nigeria) – Thuathe (H4/5, Lesotho)
> March 1, 2009: Cartersville (L5, Georgia) – Nkayi (L6, Kenya).
>
> And now I'll add one to the list: Parauapedes - Mahbas Arraid.
> Thank you.
>
> Anne Black
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Finbarr Connolly via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2021 3:59 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Falls?
>
> Anne, I cheated and just went to Mike's site for the other two 21st
> century coincidental falls -
>
> Dec 09, 2013 - Parauapebes (H4-5 chondrite) : Brazil (Hammer)
> Dec 09, 2013 - Mahbas Arraid (LL6 chondrite) : Western Sahara
>
> and
>
> Mar 01, 2009 - Cartersville (L5 chondrite) : Georgia USA (Hammer)
> Mar 01, 2009 - Nkayi (L6 chondrite) : Zimbabwe
>
> even the former of those is not watertight as the stones were discovered 9
> months after the fall...
>
> There is also Glendale and Benenitra on July 27, 2018 but Glendale is
> unofficial.
>
> Yes I'm lazy but actually it might be an idea for an additional filter in
> the database...
>
> Best regards,
> Finbarr.
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:47 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> A meteorite Collector I know asked me an interesting question:
> We know that Kilabo and Thuathe fell on the same day of the same year, but
> is that the only time this happened?
> So I did some research and I found 9 other cases of 2 meteorites coming
> from different meteors (different classification) but falling on the same
> day of the same year. I could tell you which ones but that wouldn't be any
> fun. Wouldn't you rather search a bit and see if I missed any?
> I'll tell you what I found in a few days.
> Enjoy the search.
>
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Falls?

2021-05-16 Thread Anne Black via Meteorite-list
Since a few people (very few!  just 2!!) have answered, here is what I have 
found, using only official meteorites: 
August 25, 1865: Aumale (L6, Algeria) – Shergotty (Shergottite, India)June 30, 
1908: Tunguska (unknown, Russia) – Kagarlyk (L6, Ukraine)August 28, 1925: 
Ellemeet (Diogenite, Netherlands) – Lanzenkirchen (L4, Austria)August 8, 1933: 
Sioux County (Eucrite, Nebraska) - Repeev-Khutor (Iron IIF, Russia)September 
26, 1939: Glanggang (H5-6, Indonesia) – Selakopi (H5, Indonesia)September 17, 
1945: Atoka (L6, Oklahoma) – Soroti (Iron OFF, Uganda)September 21, 1949: Akaba 
(L6, Jordan) – Beddgelert (H5, Wales UK)August 14, 1962: Bogou (Iron IAB, 
Burkina Faso) - Sao Jose do Rio Preto (H4, Brazil)October 30, 1994: Devri-Khera 
(L6, India) – Lohawat (Howardite, India)July 21, 2002: Kilabo (LL6, Nigeria) – 
Thuathe (H4/5, Lesotho)March 1, 2009: Cartersville (L5, Georgia) – Nkayi (L6, 
Kenya).  
And now I'll add one to the list: Parauapedes - Mahbas Arraid.  Thank you.

Anne blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Finbarr Connolly via Meteorite-list 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Sat, May 15, 2021 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Falls?

Anne, I cheated and just went to Mike's site for the other two 21st century 
coincidental falls -
Dec 09, 2013 - Parauapebes (H4-5 chondrite) : Brazil (Hammer) Dec 09, 2013 - 
Mahbas Arraid (LL6 chondrite) : Western Sahara

and 
Mar 01, 2009 - Cartersville (L5 chondrite) : Georgia USA (Hammer) Mar 01, 2009 
- Nkayi (L6 chondrite) : Zimbabwe

even the former of those is not watertight as the stones were discovered 9 
months after the fall...
There is also Glendale and Benenitra on July 27, 2018 but Glendale is 
unofficial.
Yes I'm lazy but actually it might be an idea for an additional filter in the 
database...
Best regards,Finbarr.
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:47 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

A meteorite Collector I know asked me an interesting question:We know that 
Kilabo and Thuathe fell on the same day of the same year, but is that the only 
time this happened?So I did some research and I found 9 other cases of 2 
meteorites coming from different meteors (different classification) but falling 
on the same day of the same year. I could tell you which ones but that wouldn't 
be any fun. Wouldn't you rather search a bit and see if I missed any? I'll tell 
you what I found in a few days. Enjoy the search.
Anne blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Falls?

2021-05-16 Thread Finbarr Connolly via Meteorite-list
Anne, I cheated and just went to Mike's site for the other two 21st century
coincidental falls -

Dec 09, 2013 - Parauapebes (H4-5 chondrite) : Brazil (Hammer)
Dec 09, 2013 - Mahbas Arraid (LL6 chondrite) : Western Sahara

and

Mar 01, 2009 - Cartersville (L5 chondrite) : Georgia USA (Hammer)
Mar 01, 2009 - Nkayi (L6 chondrite) : Zimbabwe

even the former of those is not watertight as the stones were discovered 9
months after the fall...

There is also Glendale and Benenitra on July 27, 2018 but Glendale is
unofficial.

Yes I'm lazy but actually it might be an idea for an additional filter in
the database...

Best regards,
Finbarr.

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:47 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> A meteorite Collector I know asked me an interesting question:
> We know that Kilabo and Thuathe fell on the same day of the same year, but
> is that the only time this happened?
> So I did some research and I found 9 other cases of 2 meteorites coming
> from different meteors (different classification) but falling on the same
> day of the same year. I could tell you which ones but that wouldn't be any
> fun. Wouldn't you rather search a bit and see if I missed any?
> I'll tell you what I found in a few days.
> Enjoy the search.
>
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
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[meteorite-list] Question about Falls?

2021-05-10 Thread Anne Black via Meteorite-list
A meteorite Collector I know asked me an interesting question:We know that 
Kilabo and Thuathe fell on the same day of the same year, but is that the only 
time this happened?So I did some research and I found 9 other cases of 2 
meteorites coming from different meteors (different classification) but falling 
on the same day of the same year. I could tell you which ones but that wouldn't 
be any fun. Wouldn't you rather search a bit and see if I missed any? I'll tell 
you what I found in a few days. Enjoy the search.
Anne blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about illustration of the structures in iron meteorites

2019-11-26 Thread almitt2--- via Meteorite-list



 Hi Paolo Conte,

 I would suggest the Handbook of Iron Meteorites.

 Here is a PDF but don't know if they have the graphics in it.


https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/33757/5/vol1-pre%28LO%29.pdf


https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/handle/10524/35664/vol2-Camp-CanyC(LO).pdf

 https://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/35860/1/vol3-apre.pdf

 Best!

 --AL Mitterling

 Mitterling Meteorites

 Quoting PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list :


Hello Listers

Does anyone know a book or article that graphically illustrates with
drawings (1) the arrangement of taenite and kamacite in metallic meteorites
and (2) the disposition of the Neumann lines with respect to the crystal
lattice of ataxites or coarsest octahedrites?  I never found anything. Only
words that leave little to imagine.

Thanks for your help.

Paolo Conte (IMCA #6037)




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[meteorite-list] Question about illustration of the structures in iron meteorites

2019-11-25 Thread PAOLO CONTE via Meteorite-list
Hello Listers

Does anyone know a book or article that graphically illustrates with
drawings (1) the arrangement of taenite and kamacite in metallic meteorites
and (2) the disposition of the Neumann lines with respect to the crystal
lattice of ataxites or coarsest octahedrites?  I never found anything. Only
words that leave little to imagine.

Thanks for your help.

Paolo Conte (IMCA #6037)
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[meteorite-list] Question--NWA-2798

2018-10-22 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
Hello All,


Someone just asked me about one of my pictures on the Met-bul
& EoMregarding NWA 2798

Is the large condrule in my particular pic Completely Armored?.
I don't have mine in front of me -- is there anyone who may answer
this question?

NWA 2798 is absolutely beautiful...

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[meteorite-list] Question about Processing my Bondoc End Cuts

2017-10-15 Thread bobadebt--- via Meteorite-list
Because the focus of my collection is spheres I will admit that I don’t really 
know much about what other meteorite collectors like

I have started to process the smaller slices and end cuts of my Bondoc 
Mesosiderite by soaking them in phosphoric acid and then I polish them up to 
400. I might go to 800 but I have to get some supplies to do that. 


They end up looking like this 10 gram slice

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Bondoc/Bondoc%20007%20%2010gr%20Slice_zps9hzhszx3.jpg




I don’t mind risking the “value of the specimen” on these smaller pieces but I 
don’t know if I want to do that for these larger end cuts:


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Bondoc/Bondoc%20008%20A%20Large%20End%20Cuts_zps3elatgpc.jpg


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Bondoc/Bondoc%20008%20B%20Large%20End%20Cuts_zpswlinderc.jpg




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[meteorite-list] Question regarding sikhote alin meteorites.

2017-02-13 Thread Walter Paleski via Meteorite-list
Do all sikhotes have Schrieberesite crystals?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

2016-12-22 Thread Walter Paleski via Meteorite-list
The Gibeon and Seymchan meteorites tend to be naturally rust-resistant, so 
while hand washing and showering with Gibeon jewelry is, in our experience, not 
a problem. 


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Laura Atkins via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Rob!
> 
> I have one that I wear from time to time.  Nothing too expensive as it has a 
> Campo in the setting.  I’ve had it a few years, and no rust as of yet.
> 
> Regards,
> Laura Atkins
> 
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> Date: Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 12:51 AM
> To: "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings
> 
> Hello all
> 
> Anyone out there routinely wear a meteorite ring. If so is rust an issue.
> 
> Any sellers hear complaints down the road?
> 
> 
> Rob Wesel 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

2016-12-22 Thread Laura Atkins via Meteorite-list
Hello Rob!

I have one that I wear from time to time.  Nothing too expensive as it has a 
Campo in the setting.  I’ve had it a few years, and no rust as of yet.

Regards,
Laura Atkins

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

Hello all

Anyone out there routinely wear a meteorite ring. If so is rust an issue.

Any sellers hear complaints down the road?


Rob Wesel 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

2016-12-22 Thread Greg Frazier via Meteorite-list
I wore a Gibeon for years with no trouble at all.
Greg

 

 

 

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

Hello all

Anyone out there routinely wear a meteorite ring. If so is rust an issue.

Any sellers hear complaints down the road?


Rob Wesel 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

2016-12-22 Thread Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
Hi Rob,

I made my (and my wife's) wedding rings from Gibeon. We have no rust issues
at all. I had an experience with a Gibeon ring where it turned the skin
under the ring brownish. I didn't want that feature in my wedding ring. When
I made the wedding rings I "lined" them with gold. It worked and I have
never had any skin reactions from my ring.

Thanks,

Peter

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

Hello all

Anyone out there routinely wear a meteorite ring. If so is rust an issue.

Any sellers hear complaints down the road?


Rob Wesel 

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[meteorite-list] Question about meteorite rings

2016-12-21 Thread Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list

Hello all

Anyone out there routinely wear a meteorite ring. If so is rust an issue.

Any sellers hear complaints down the road?


Rob Wesel 

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www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel



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[meteorite-list] Question about Impact Melting Process

2015-03-12 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list
When considering meteorites that are described as impact melt, I
have a question regarding the heat required to melt the materials.

How is the heat responsible for the melting generated?

In other words, is the heat generated by the impact itself or the
immediate after-effects of the impact?  Is it the moment of impact
that produces the heat, or is the heat produced by the subsequent
compression of materials at the point of impact?

Best regards,

MikeG


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[meteorite-list] Question

2015-02-26 Thread Thomas Webb via Meteorite-list
Hello List,
Does anyone know where Carl Agee is?
Thanks,
Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Question

2015-02-26 Thread Thomas Webb via Meteorite-list
Hello List,
Does Anyone know where Carl Agee is?  I can't seem to make contact with him.
Thanks,
Thomas
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2015-02-26 Thread Rick Montgomery via Meteorite-list

Ceres

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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:27 PM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question

Hello List,
Does Anyone know where Carl Agee is?  I can't seem to make contact with him.
Thanks,
Thomas
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Norites - Lunar and Diogenite

2015-01-09 Thread Carl Agee via Meteorite-list
Hi Mike:

Norite is a generic petrologic term for an igneous mafic rock that has
primarily orthopyroxene + plagioclase and little or no clinopyroxene.
Norites occur on Earth, the Moon, and the HED parent body (as you call
Vestan). HED norites are in fact a type of diogenite. Geochemically
there is no way you can confuse a HED norite with a lunar norite. For
one thing they have totally different Fe/Mn, and of course the oxygen
isotopes are totally different.

Hope this helps.

Carl
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Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks via
Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 I was looking at Norites recently, and I came across the only
 lunar-origin Norite, the lunaite NWA 773.  I had no knowledge of NWA
 773 prior to stumbling across it's Noritic connection.

 The visual similarities between lunar norite and Vestan norite are
 apparent. I am assuming the major differences are noted in chemistry.
 Do lunar and Vestan norites share any other characteristics that might
 blur the line between their respective parent bodies?  In other words,
 are these two types of norites so closely related that their may be
 some room for reconsideration when it comes to their parent body
 origins?  (i.e., possible they came from the same body, or a noritic
 body impact on the parent, etc)

 Best regards,

 MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Norites - Lunar and Diogenite

2015-01-09 Thread Greg Hupé via Meteorite-list

Hi Mike and List,

NWA 773 (and all of its pairings, including my NWA 7007) can be seen on 
Randy Korotev's lunar meteorite web site. This clan of lunaites is far more 
complex than originally thought before all of the [launch-paired] meteorites 
were discovered... http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa0773.htm


There are quite a few abstracts published on these, especially a lot of work 
performed on NWA 7007 at Washington University in St. Louis... For example: 
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2013/pdf/3013.pdf


Best Regards,
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 12:41 PM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about Norites - Lunar and Diogenite

Hi List,

I was looking at Norites recently, and I came across the only
lunar-origin Norite, the lunaite NWA 773.  I had no knowledge of NWA
773 prior to stumbling across it's Noritic connection.

The visual similarities between lunar norite and Vestan norite are
apparent. I am assuming the major differences are noted in chemistry.
Do lunar and Vestan norites share any other characteristics that might
blur the line between their respective parent bodies?  In other words,
are these two types of norites so closely related that their may be
some room for reconsideration when it comes to their parent body
origins?  (i.e., possible they came from the same body, or a noritic
body impact on the parent, etc)

Best regards,

MikeG

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[meteorite-list] Question about Norites - Lunar and Diogenite

2015-01-08 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi List,

I was looking at Norites recently, and I came across the only
lunar-origin Norite, the lunaite NWA 773.  I had no knowledge of NWA
773 prior to stumbling across it's Noritic connection.

The visual similarities between lunar norite and Vestan norite are
apparent. I am assuming the major differences are noted in chemistry.
Do lunar and Vestan norites share any other characteristics that might
blur the line between their respective parent bodies?  In other words,
are these two types of norites so closely related that their may be
some room for reconsideration when it comes to their parent body
origins?  (i.e., possible they came from the same body, or a noritic
body impact on the parent, etc)

Best regards,

MikeG

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[meteorite-list] Question about the chemistry of the Martian atmosphere and Martian meteorites

2014-03-01 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List,

The CRE of the various Martian meteorites ranges from just under one
million years to almost twenty million years.  In terms of overall
geologic history, this is a recent window of impact events that has
produced the Martian meteorites in our collections.

Scientists have confirmed the Martian origin of these meteorites by
analyzing trapped atmospheric gases inside the meteorites.  However,
the composition of the trapped gases is being compared against very
recent data (starting with Viking).

Does this mean that the Martian atmosphere has not changed in millions
of years?  Or, do the analyses take into account observed/theorized
changes in the atmospheric chemistry?

I am a little unclear on this.

Best regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about the chemistry of the Martian atmosphere and Martian meteorites

2014-03-01 Thread Carl Agee
MikeG,

Really good question! When you look at the data there are actually
few, if any, martian meteorites that are a perfect match for noble gas
isotopes of Viking. They tend to be a mixture of Viking and Earth
atmosphere, and there are spallation effects for Ar-isotopes. It has
been proposed that ALH 84001 contains ancient martian atmosphere that
is different from Viking, especially for Xe. However NWA 7034, which
is also ancient (albeit a breccia), has some of the most Viking-like
noble gas values. This is not my field so I am treading on thin ice
perhaps, but I would say that the picture is still not clear and Earth
contamination is always a factor. Also, it is possible that some of
the atmospheric gases were implanted at the time of impact that
launched the material off Mars (i.e. recent).

Carl Agee
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Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/



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meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 The CRE of the various Martian meteorites ranges from just under one
 million years to almost twenty million years.  In terms of overall
 geologic history, this is a recent window of impact events that has
 produced the Martian meteorites in our collections.

 Scientists have confirmed the Martian origin of these meteorites by
 analyzing trapped atmospheric gases inside the meteorites.  However,
 the composition of the trapped gases is being compared against very
 recent data (starting with Viking).

 Does this mean that the Martian atmosphere has not changed in millions
 of years?  Or, do the analyses take into account observed/theorized
 changes in the atmospheric chemistry?

 I am a little unclear on this.

 Best regards,

 MikeG
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question re Ad: EXTRA RARE FALLS - Peekskill, New Concord, Barwell, Parnallee, and many more!

2014-01-18 Thread Michael Blood
Hi Rubin,
Please allow me to express cicely that in bringing up this issue
There is no personal criticism intended, whatsoeverthe issue is
Restricted entirely to the subject of the definition of orientation.
Knowing you are a respected and accomplished member of the
meteorite community and having concluded from personal interaction
That your honesty and integrity are unquestionable I was very surprised
to read your description of the NWA 859 specimen included, oriented.
Please tell me what, exactly do you see that I am missing that
Would make you describe this specimen (advertized below) as oriented?
I can only conclude one of two possibilities is at work: 1) I lack a
complete understanding of what constitutes orientation or 2) there was an
unintended error in composing the description. (perhaps there is a 3rd
explanation?)
I see none of the aspects indicative of orientation - but I may be
missing something? Perhaps the use of the term oriented was a clerical
error? Perhaps there were photos showing aspects of orientation that did
Not get posted with the ad?
RSVP
Thanks, Michael


On 1/18/14 10:03 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Just listed - NO RESERVE AUCTIONS
 
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/mr-meteorite/m.html?item=221356302301pt=LH_DefaultDom
 ain_0hash=item3389dd1fddrt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562
 
 FOR MORE  SERIOUS COLLECTORS
 
 (NOT ON EBAY) former Bob Haag Ensisheim, and large Peekskill, larger
 New Concord, etc...
 Email for photos and Prices
 
 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Question re Ad: EXTRA RARE FALLS - Peekskill, New Concord, Barwell, Parnallee, and many more!

2014-01-18 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Steve,

I think you may have a point. However, in this case Michael is correct.

This is what happens when you're heading out the door for Tucson to
hand deliver meteorites and decide to quickly list some specimens on
eBay by using an old listing. It's usually done very quickly and can
be a great time saver - simply click on sell similar- and just change
the photos and the weight. In this case I didn't proof read the ad.

I just returned home and corrected the problem.



On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I believe nearly all meteorites in some way ar oriented , some more than
 others. What would be truly rare would be an unoriented meteorite with
 nearly all secondary or no fusion crust.
 cheersa
  Steve

 From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
 To: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com; Meteorite List
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question re Ad: EXTRA RARE FALLS - Peekskill,
 New Concord, Barwell, Parnallee, and many more!

 Hi Rubin,
 Please allow me to express cicely that in bringing up this issue
 There is no personal criticism intended, whatsoeverthe issue is
 Restricted entirely to the subject of the definition of orientation.
 Knowing you are a respected and accomplished member of the
 meteorite community and having concluded from personal interaction
 That your honesty and integrity are unquestionable I was very surprised
 to read your description of the NWA 859 specimen included, oriented.
 Please tell me what, exactly do you see that I am missing that
 Would make you describe this specimen (advertized below) as oriented?
 I can only conclude one of two possibilities is at work: 1) I lack a
 complete understanding of what constitutes orientation or 2) there was an
 unintended error in composing the description. (perhaps there is a 3rd
 explanation?)
 I see none of the aspects indicative of orientation - but I may be
 missing something? Perhaps the use of the term oriented was a clerical
 error? Perhaps there were photos showing aspects of orientation that did
 Not get posted with the ad?
 RSVP
 Thanks, Michael


 On 1/18/14 10:03 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Just listed - NO RESERVE AUCTIONS


 http://www.ebay.com/sch/mr-meteorite/m.html?item=221356302301pt=LH_DefaultDom
 ain_0hash=item3389dd1fddrt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562

 FOR MORE  SERIOUS COLLECTORS

 (NOT ON EBAY) former Bob Haag Ensisheim, and large Peekskill, larger
 New Concord, etc...
 Email for photos and Prices




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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Impact Glass from Crooked Creek

2013-10-03 Thread b1dunovant
Hello Robert,

Again, thank you for your reply and incormation regarding Crooked
Creek. 

I initially thought it was slag as well as it didn't fit with the
materials I
had found and documemted at the site, but then I recovered a large
specimen of
the same glass however it was transitioning from rock which has a
quench-like
texture. A couple days later I recovered additional material that had
many of
the same characteristics as the specimem in question, yet was stone had
floating
clast of the same material the glass transitioned from on the large
specimen.

I do not claim to know what this material beyond previous experience
and visual
correlation,  but the large piece is quite an enigma as it has
characteristics
of a couple different specimens that are obviously stone and vise versa.

I appreciate you responding to my question and hope that  we can
continue this
dialog.

My Best,

Brandon D.





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From: Robert Beauford
Date:
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Impact Glass from Crooked
Creek



I have encountered this material during field work.  I have a sample in
a box here beside my desk, along with a thin section.  My sample was
dominantly iron, with less glass and less bubbles, but looks pretty
clearly to be the same thing.  I did some research on it a couple of
years ago.  The metal portion has no nickel content, and the silicate
(glassy) portion is complex in composition, inconsistent with melting
of the local carbonates, chert, or quartz arenite sandstones that are
found in the brecciated or uplifted Crooked Creek rock units.  I
believe it to be slag from local mining of iron (about 100 years
ago) within the crater and throughout the region.  The mined iron is
not associated with the meteorite impact.  It was emplaced along faults
in the region by mineralizing hydrothermal activity, tens of millions
of years later, that occurred during the Ouachita Orogeny.  They also
mined for barite and several other things along faults
in and around there.  I found evidence for the timing and origin of
mineralization associated with the mines recorded in some earlier work
by a different author (I think it might have been Hendriks, 1954.)  I
included more details in a published abstract, though I don't recall
how much.  Sorry... it was disappointing for me as well.
Best regards,
Robert Beauford



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From: Brandon D.b1dunov...@aol.com
Date:
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]


Good Day/Night Fellow Listees.

It's been some time since I have had a chance to get on the list and
also present some new material to the collectors and researchers
interested. I have had to deal with some serious personal family issues
and this has weighted heavy on me as of late.

Today I would like to get the word out that I have some new impact
material of such quality that it should excite those who share my
common interest and attention. It is not just the size, but also the
scarcity.

To some up what I have I am just going to list what I have below.
Further specimens will be added over the course of the day so stay
tuned as well!

http://www.ebay.com/usr/meteor-rite

1) 469.2g endcut of full impact melt from the Crooked Creek, Missouri
impact.

2) 39.5g Rare slice of possible impact or landslide melt in Kofels,
Australia.

3) 1,123g corner cut of impact breccia from the Crooked Creek, Missouri
impact.

4) 868.2g Huge slice of impact. Melt breccia from the Glover Bluff,
Wisconsin impact site.

5) 441.7g. beautiful corner cut of the yellow type impact breccia from
the Glover Bluff, Wisconsin impact site.


I also have a piece of Meteorite art in the form of a Zoomorphic Campo
that has been painted by an artist with oil paint. It was shaped and is
now presented beautifully as a colorful chameleon. It was displayed in
a display at a museum for some time and includes documentation from
them as well as the artist.

Again, my eBay listings can be viewed by following the below link.

http://www.ebay.com/usr/meteor-rite ;

Thank you and all the best,

Brandon D.

Good Day/Night Fellow Listees.

It's been some time since I have had a chance to get on the list and
also present some new material to the collectors and researchers
interested. I have had to deal with some serious personal family issues
and this has weighted heavy on me as of late.

Today I would like to get the word out that I have some new impact
material of such quality that it should excite those who share my
common interest and attention. It is not just the size, but also the
scarcity.

To some up what I have I am just going to list what I have below.
Further specimens will be added over the course of the day so stay
tuned as well!

http://www.ebay.com/usr/meteor-rite

1) 469.2g endcut of full impact melt from the Crooked Creek, Missouri
impact.

2) 39.5g Rare slice of possible impact or landslide melt in Kofels,
Australia.

3

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Impact Glass from Crooked Creek

2013-10-02 Thread Robert Beauford
I have encountered this material during field work.  I have a sample in a box 
here beside my desk, along with a thin section.  My sample was dominantly iron, 
with less glass and less bubbles, but looks pretty clearly to be the same 
thing.  I did some research on it a couple of years ago.  The metal portion has 
no nickel content, and the silicate (glassy) portion is complex in composition, 
inconsistent with melting of the local carbonates, chert, or quartz arenite 
sandstones that are found in the brecciated or uplifted Crooked Creek rock 
units.  I believe it to be slag from local mining of iron (about 100 years ago) 
within the crater and throughout the region.  The mined iron is not associated 
with the meteorite impact.  It was emplaced along faults in the region by 
mineralizing hydrothermal activity, tens of millions of years later, that 
occurred during the Ouachita Orogeny.  They also mined for barite and several 
other things along faults
 in and around there.  I found evidence for the timing and origin of 
mineralization associated with the mines recorded in some earlier work by a 
different author (I think it might have been Hendriks, 1954.)  I included more 
details in a published abstract, though I don't recall how much.  Sorry... it 
was disappointing for me as well.
Best regards,
Robert Beauford
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[meteorite-list] Question about facebook

2013-05-14 Thread Brien Cook
Here are some Meteorite related FB pages...

Meteoritical Society
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meteoritical-Society/132324490172621

Meteorite Hunting
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meteorite-Hunting/211197901280

Galactic Analytics LLC
https://www.facebook.com/GalacticAnalyticsLLC

Meteorites
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meteorites/103082183898

Meteorite Club
https://www.facebook.com/groups/389280431619/

Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts
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[meteorite-list] Question about facebook

2013-05-12 Thread James Masny
Hello list members.  I remember reading in the past about either a
group or fanpage that many list members are a part of.  I just
recently reactivated my facebook account and am interested in joining.
Jim
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[meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H H 
Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a 
meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the 
first 2 pages. Reads:

*
American Meteorite Museum
Sedona, Arizona.
American Museum Laboratory
(successor)
P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page...
*
Copyright, 1942
By H. H. Nininger
*
Revised, 1944
2nd Revision, 1946
3rd Revision, 1951
4th Revision, 1953
5th Revision, 1957
*
further down at bottom of page says:
*
printed by
Desert Press, Inc
Palm Desert, California
*
I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the 
rest of the 65 page book.

*
Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Don Merchant
I am guessing that by the last Revised Copyright that it is from 1957? If so 
any value?

Sincerely
Don Merchant
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From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??


Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H 
H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a 
meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the 
first 2 pages. Reads:

*
American Meteorite Museum
Sedona, Arizona.
American Museum Laboratory
(successor)
P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page...
*
Copyright, 1942
By H. H. Nininger
*
Revised, 1944
2nd Revision, 1946
3rd Revision, 1951
4th Revision, 1953
5th Revision, 1957
*
further down at bottom of page says:
*
printed by
Desert Press, Inc
Palm Desert, California
*
I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the 
rest of the 65 page book.

*
Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
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[meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hi Don and List,

My copy shows this on page 2:

A Comet Strikes the Earth
H.H. Nininger
American Meteorite Laboratory

and on page 3, only this:

© 1942, 1969
By H.H. Nininger

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Martin Goff
Hi Don/list,

I have a few of these booklets in different colours and i asked the
question to Mike Jensen a while ago. Below is his reply:

Those are available in several different colors. I seem to find the
bright orange? color the most. But I have seen a more red cover and
one closer to the 1969 yellow? color as well.  So yes they are
produced in several different colors. I always thought the blue ones
were the rarest color but I have actually seen several of them
recently. I also must point out I have seen so few of them over the
years that my opinions are based on a very small population so I could
easily be wrong when I state rarest...most...fewest...etc.
Something I find curious is only the 42 seems to have been produced in
several different colors. I do have one later edition that has a very
light yellow cover but every other book I have seen is the 69 yellow
cover

So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover and you may
be able to date them according to the colour of the cover. Nice little
booklets :-)

Cheers

Martin

On 3 March 2013 19:57, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 I am guessing that by the last Revised Copyright that it is from 1957? If so
 any value?
 Sincerely
 Don Merchant
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 dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
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 Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:53 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??



 Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H
 H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a
 meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the
 first 2 pages. Reads:
 *
 American Meteorite Museum
 Sedona, Arizona.
 American Museum Laboratory
 (successor)
 P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page...
 *
 Copyright, 1942
 By H. H. Nininger
 *
 Revised, 1944
 2nd Revision, 1946
 3rd Revision, 1951
 4th Revision, 1953
 5th Revision, 1957
 *
 further down at bottom of page says:
 *
 printed by
 Desert Press, Inc
 Palm Desert, California
 *
 I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the
 rest of the 65 page book.
 *
 Sincerely
 Don Merchant
 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
 www.ctreasurescwonders.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Martin Goff
Hi Bernd, Don and list,

Upon checking the three copies i have, the orange and blue coloured
copies are from 1942 and the copyright is just shown as copyright H H
Nininger 1942. The later 1969 yellow edition is marked as Bernd
describes.

Hope that helps.

Cheers

Martin

On 3 March 2013 20:11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Hi Don and List,

 My copy shows this on page 2:

 A Comet Strikes the Earth
 H.H. Nininger
 American Meteorite Laboratory

 and on page 3, only this:

 © 1942, 1969
 By H.H. Nininger

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[meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello Don, Martin, List,

So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover

My  © 1942, 1969 edition is definitely *orange*

Cheers,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Martin Goff
My theory busted straight away then Bernd :-)

Cheers

Martin

On 3 March 2013 20:27, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Hello Don, Martin, List,

 So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover

 My  © 1942, 1969 edition is definitely *orange*

 Cheers,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??

2013-03-03 Thread Don Merchant

Thanks Martin and Bernd. My color is yellow.
Don
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Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??



Hi Don/list,

I have a few of these booklets in different colours and i asked the
question to Mike Jensen a while ago. Below is his reply:

Those are available in several different colors. I seem to find the
bright orange? color the most. But I have seen a more red cover and
one closer to the 1969 yellow? color as well.  So yes they are
produced in several different colors. I always thought the blue ones
were the rarest color but I have actually seen several of them
recently. I also must point out I have seen so few of them over the
years that my opinions are based on a very small population so I could
easily be wrong when I state rarest...most...fewest...etc.
Something I find curious is only the 42 seems to have been produced in
several different colors. I do have one later edition that has a very
light yellow cover but every other book I have seen is the 69 yellow
cover

So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover and you may
be able to date them according to the colour of the cover. Nice little
booklets :-)

Cheers

Martin

On 3 March 2013 19:57, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
I am guessing that by the last Revised Copyright that it is from 1957? If 
so

any value?
Sincerely
Don Merchant
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Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??



Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by 
H
H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with 
a
meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at 
the

first 2 pages. Reads:
*
American Meteorite Museum
Sedona, Arizona.
American Museum Laboratory
(successor)
P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page...
*
Copyright, 1942
By H. H. Nininger
*
Revised, 1944
2nd Revision, 1946
3rd Revision, 1951
4th Revision, 1953
5th Revision, 1957
*
further down at bottom of page says:
*
printed by
Desert Press, Inc
Palm Desert, California
*
I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout 
the

rest of the 65 page book.
*
Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
IMCA #0960
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Re: [meteorite-list] question about Futrell Collection/markings

2012-08-13 Thread Larry Twink Monrad
I have three Moung-Nong layered Thai tektites from Darryl's collection and
none have any markings or painted labels on them. Two of them he sent to me
personally as trades for Gold Basins and the third I bought at Michael
Blood's auction many years ago. It weighs 686 grams and  it is really nice.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2012-07-13 Thread MstrEman
Supernova's produced all the elements but it isn't gold nor iron
Sulfide you are dealing with.  Actually  from description it is
likely:  iron nickle chloride (FeNi)Cl2

Sorry but you now have a sample of the mineral lawrencite on your
specimen. Yes lawrencite of  meteorite wasting fame
http://www.mindat.org/min-2351.html

Peter, wold you say that parts of it look like hemispherical
translucent golden insect eggs?

Elton

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 Hi Pete,

 Without seeing the sample I am just guessing but it might be iron sulfide.

 Peter

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 I have a puzzelment on one of my UNWA's.
 There are a number of yellow very shiney blebs in a dark brown matrix. Two
 of the blebs are on oposite sides of the slice as near as I can tell
 directly accross from each other. These are the largest of all the blebs,
 at
 1X2 mm in size. Any thoughts?
 If they were copper, they would have tarnished. I don't think brass is
 possible, So I'm left with, dare I say, gold?
 Do supernovas produce elements much higher than iron?
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[meteorite-list] Question

2012-07-12 Thread pshugar
I have a puzzelment on one of my UNWA's.
There are a number of yellow very shiney
blebs in a dark brown matrix. Two of the blebs are on oposite
sides of the slice as near as I can tell directly accross
from each other. These are the largest of all the blebs, at
1X2 mm in size. Any thoughts?
If they were copper, they would have tarnished. I don't think 
brass is possible, So I'm left with, dare I say, gold?
Do supernovas produce elements much higher than iron?
Pete

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi Pete,

Without seeing the sample I am just guessing but it might be iron sulfide.

Peter

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question

I have a puzzelment on one of my UNWA's.
There are a number of yellow very shiney blebs in a dark brown matrix. Two
of the blebs are on oposite sides of the slice as near as I can tell
directly accross from each other. These are the largest of all the blebs, at
1X2 mm in size. Any thoughts?
If they were copper, they would have tarnished. I don't think brass is
possible, So I'm left with, dare I say, gold?
Do supernovas produce elements much higher than iron?
Pete

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi Pete,

Without seeing the sample I am just guessing but it might be iron sulfide.

Peter

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question

I have a puzzelment on one of my UNWA's.
There are a number of yellow very shiney blebs in a dark brown matrix. Two
of the blebs are on oposite sides of the slice as near as I can tell
directly accross from each other. These are the largest of all the blebs, at
1X2 mm in size. Any thoughts?
If they were copper, they would have tarnished. I don't think brass is
possible, So I'm left with, dare I say, gold?
Do supernovas produce elements much higher than iron?
Pete

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Meteorite Hunting - Bob Haag?

2012-06-25 Thread Rob Matson
Hi Mike,

 Not long after I first got into meteorites, the Carancas fall
 happened.  Meteorite hunters descended on the area - something
 we are all familiar with now.  Bob Haag went down there and
 collected some very nice specimens.  However, since then, we
 never hear anything about Bob chasing falls. ...

 So, my question is - is Bob officially retired from chasing
 falls?

I don't believe so. For instance, Bob did go to Sutter's Mill.

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[meteorite-list] Question about Meteorite Hunting - Bob Haag?

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi List,

Not long after I first got into meteorites, the Carancas fall
happened.  Meteorite hunters descended on the area - something we are
all familiar with now.  Bob Haag went down there and collected some
very nice specimens.  However, since then, we never hear anything
about Bob chasing falls.

I don't know Bob.  And I haven't had the pleasure of attending the
annual Tucson show (yet), so I have never met him or had the
opportunity to chat with him.  From everything I have heard
second-hand, Bob sounds like a personable guy and is very involved
with collecting and trading.

So, my question is - is Bob officially retired from chasing falls?

Best regards,

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[meteorite-list] Question 1 2

2012-05-27 Thread pshugar
# 1 Does anyone have the link to the GIF file that showed
the ISS assembly from start to finish?

# 2 I got the mistake I made clear in my 2 brain cells.
The moon does one revolution every month, always presenting
the same side to the earth. How long since it stopped
it's rotation.
Do the science eggheads have any idea how fast it rotated
after it was formed? Also, how fast did the earth spin at that
time?
Did the moon's tidal effect on the earth cause the earth's
spin to slow?
Thanks,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question 1 2

2012-05-27 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Pete, List

The Moon BOTH revolves AND rotates
One revolution for each rotation; one rotation
for each revolution. Synchronous, it's called.

The Moon's tides slow the Earth's axial rotation,
making the day longer. In the past the day was
shorter and the number of days per year was greater

Because the angular momentum of the Earth-Moon
system must be conserved, the loss of energy from
the Earth's rotation is pumped into the Moon's
orbit causing the Moon to orbit at a greater distance.

The Moon slowly recedes from the Earth and is
doing so today. It will continue getting further and
further away until the Earth either loses the Moon
or the Sun eats us both in about five billion years.

How fast the Earth rotated when the Moon formed
is guesswork (with lots of equations thrown in).
6 hours? 12 hours? How close did the Moon form?
Nobody knows, but outside the Roche Limit (about
three Earth radii) or it would have broken up from
the Earth tides.

You shoulda oughta read that Meteorite List:
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg106159.html
The Moon DOES rotate on its axis. If it didn't,
we on the Earth would have a slow month-long
changing view of every spot on the Moon. There
would be no near side and far side. If you were
looking at what we call the near side tonight, in
two weeks you would be looking at the far side.


Sterling K. Webb

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# 1 Does anyone have the link to the GIF file that showed
the ISS assembly from start to finish?

# 2 I got the mistake I made clear in my 2 brain cells.
The moon does one revolution every month, always presenting
the same side to the earth. How long since it stopped
it's rotation.
Do the science eggheads have any idea how fast it rotated
after it was formed? Also, how fast did the earth spin at that
time?
Did the moon's tidal effect on the earth cause the earth's
spin to slow?
Thanks,
Pete

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[meteorite-list] Question about Mifflin totals?

2012-05-08 Thread Becky and Kirk

Hi All,
Just wondering what the total weight is to date for the Mifflin fall in 
Wisconsin?


And---has the bogus Mifflin ever been totally eliminated from the real 
quantity out there---or is there still some questions about some of it??


Thanks.
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[meteorite-list] Question about Michael Johnson

2011-12-21 Thread Tim Heitz

Hi List,

I can't seem to get in touch with Michael Johnson, I need his newer e-mail 
address

does anyone one have it?


Thanks,
Tim




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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-06 Thread James Baxter
Hi Melanie,

I was lucky enough to get a dinner plate sized 895 gram slice of NWA 869 from 
Blaine Reed back in 2008. I asked him and the mass he cut to produce it weighed 
84 pounds, just short of 40kg. Not sure if anyone out there knows of a larger 
one. The Metoritical Bulletin just says individual masses to 20kg.

Best,
Jim Baxter
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

How big is/was the largest NWA869 mass found? 

 
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[meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread Melanie Matthews
Hi list, 

Are there any estimates in how long ago this wonderful meteorite fell to Earth, 
and how large it might have been before it entered the atmosphere? It must have 
been a massive meteoroid, much larger than the one that produced the Buzzard 
Coulees. 

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread MexicoDoug
NWA 869 represents an L chondritic regolith breccia containing 
preirradiated components.  The meteoroid had an initial radius of about 
2 m with a mass of about 110 metric tons. The transit time to Earth was 
about 4-5 Ma. Large variations of shielding depths between samples 
indicate that break-up of the meteoroid must have occured high in 
atmosphere. This would also explain the large inferred ablation loss, 
which is typical for large chondrite showers.


Ref:

The L3-6 Regolith Breccia Northwest Africa 869: Petrology, Noble 
Gases, and Cosmogenic Radionuclides

Metzler, K.; Ott, U.; Welten, K. C.; Caffee, M. W.; Franke, L.
39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary 
Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas.

LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1120
Publication Date: 03/2008

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf



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Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Hi list,

Are there any estimates in how long ago this wonderful meteorite fell 
to Earth,
and how large it might have been before it entered the atmosphere? It 
must have
been a massive meteoroid, much larger than the one that produced the 
Buzzard

Coulees.

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread MexicoDoug

PS

Referencing the same article that considered the free floating for 4-5 
million year 869-parent meteoroid, also commented that the age of some 
of the regolith soil/glue that formed the fantastically brecciated 
meteoroid of our envy had itself exposure time of as long as 16 million 
years:


Assuming that 4 Ma is the time of transit irradiation, several 
lithologies have been preirradiated up to 16 Ma in the parent body 
regolith.



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NWA 869 represents an L chondritic regolith breccia containing
preirradiated components.  The meteoroid had an initial radius of about
2 m with a mass of about 110 metric tons. The transit time to Earth was
about 4-5 Ma. Large variations of shielding depths between samples
indicate that break-up of the meteoroid must have occured high in
atmosphere. This would also explain the large inferred ablation loss,
which is typical for large chondrite showers.

Ref:

The L3-6 Regolith Breccia Northwest Africa 869: Petrology, Noble
Gases, and Cosmogenic Radionuclides
Metzler, K.; Ott, U.; Welten, K. C.; Caffee, M. W.; Franke, L.
39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary
Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas.
LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1120
Publication Date: 03/2008

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf



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Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 2:10 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Hi list,

Are there any estimates in how long ago this wonderful meteorite fell
to Earth,
and how large it might have been before it entered the atmosphere? It
must have
been a massive meteoroid, much larger than the one that produced the
Buzzard
Coulees.

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica

Hi Melanie, Doug, list,

Doug, your reference is very appropriate.

In cataloging my collection, in some specific cases, when I feel the  
meteorite I am describing is important, I use to add a short  
introduction summarizing its historical and scientific background.


Here is my write-up for NWA 869, hoping it be of help to Melanie:

--

NWA 869 (Algeria, L3-6 rbr)(S3W1), found 2000, tkw: many++@7+ tons.

History and scientific significance.

It appears quite clear that meteorite collectors in Northwest Africa  
have discovered a large L chondrite strewnfield at an undisclosed  
location, most probably around Tindouf, Algeria. Thousands of stones  
has been sold under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco  
and around the world, totaling about 7+ metric tons (April 2008,  
confirmed by J. Kashuba in: “Meteorite Times, Micro Visions”, March  
2010), thereby making it one of the largest tkw’s to come out of NWA.


The corresponding meteorid was supposed weighing about 110 tons (4+m  
in diameter), suggesting important ablation and fragmentation (Metzler  
et al., LPS, 2008; Welten et al., LPS Conf. abstract, 2010, pp 2611).

Individual masses are known to range from 1 g to 20 kg.

This meteorite was classified a number of times by different  
institutions (e.g. L4, that became later L5 –UCLA, also L3.9-6 or L6…  
brecciated or not), before the above final classification by A. Rubin.


It is certain that NWA 869 is paired with other NWA meteorites  
although no systematic survey has been done.
Among many examples cited are NWA 787, NWA 900, SAH 02500 (“Wadi  
Mellene”), possibly also “AC-001”(see the 2 samples named “NWA-aaa”  
below still under investigation since its find in 2000) and likely  
many, many more.
One other famous example is NWA 904 (L5 br, also S3 W1), of which the  
numerous pics reported in MetBull database are strangely similar to  
those of NWA 869, further confirming the similarity of the samples of  
both meteorites in this collection .


It is also possible that some stones sold as NWA 869 are not part of  
the same fall, although dealers are confident that most of the known  
masses are sufficiently distinctive from other NWA meteorites in terms  
of surface and internal appearance, so that the error rate should be  
fairly low.


Although the source of the NWA 869 samples of this collection is  
reliable (purchase by MV in a Moroccan “selected reliable place”  
where it has been confirmed that the origin is Algeria, just as for  
NWA 904 (MV, personal communication), it is suggested (MetBull) that  
scientists are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens  
they obtain before publishing results under this name.


Much info was published regarding the composition of that strange and  
very attractive meteorite.
When cut and polished, the matrix is full of color and chondrules of  
all size, some armored.  Literature reports 74% gray matrix, 20% light  
tan (oxide staining) texture (type 5/6 clasts), 4% shock-darkened  
sulfide-impregnated matrix, 1% type 3 clasts, 1% achondritic textured  
clasts.
J. Kashuba (Met. Times, 03/ 2010) suggests it being a regolith  
(coarse) breccia (asteroid soil) with chunks  5.5 cm (Kashuba’s  
picture in above reference; see also the extraordinary dual lithology  
of the 27.30 g sample described below), also containing rare foreign  
carbonaceous fragments.
Some pieces also display large metal grains and significant troilite  
domains (35.42 g sample below).


The terrestrial age (4.4 ± 0.7 ky) is consistent with the low degree  
of weathering, W1.
Since the abundance of regolith breccias among L-chondrites is only  
~3% [Welten et al., 2010)], NWA 869 represents a rather unique and  
large sample of the lithified regolith of the L-chondrite parent  
body

-

Best wishes,

Zelimir



MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com a écrit :

NWA 869 represents an L chondritic regolith breccia containing  
preirradiated components.  The meteoroid had an initial radius of  
about 2 m with a mass of about 110 metric tons. The transit time to  
Earth was about 4-5 Ma. Large variations of shielding depths between  
samples indicate that break-up of the meteoroid must have occured  
high in atmosphere. This would also explain the large inferred  
ablation loss, which is typical for large chondrite showers.


Ref:

The L3-6 Regolith Breccia Northwest Africa 869: Petrology, Noble  
Gases, and Cosmogenic Radionuclides

Metzler, K.; Ott, U.; Welten, K. C.; Caffee, M. W.; Franke, L.
39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary  
Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas.

LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1120
Publication Date: 03/2008

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf



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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread Dan Furlan
NWA 869 is a very sexy meteorite.. i would marry it if i could.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread Dan Furlan
NWA 869 is a very sexy meteorite, I would marry it if i could.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread Melanie Matthews
Found this: 


Scientists figure the meteoroid that was blasted off the  parent body was 
maybe 4 to 5 meters in diameter before atmospheric entry. Even  with ablation 
loss of 90 to 95% about 7 tons dropped on the Sahara Desert. 

http://www.meteorite-times.com/micro-visions/nwa-869-inclusions/


 
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From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:03:47 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

PS

Referencing the same article that considered the free floating for 4-5 million 
year 869-parent meteoroid, also commented that the age of some of the regolith 
soil/glue that formed the fantastically brecciated meteoroid of our envy had 
itself exposure time of as long as 16 million years:

Assuming that 4 Ma is the time of transit irradiation, several lithologies 
have been preirradiated up to 16 Ma in the parent body regolith.


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: miss_meteorite miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 3:49 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


NWA 869 represents an L chondritic regolith breccia containing
preirradiated components.  The meteoroid had an initial radius of about
2 m with a mass of about 110 metric tons. The transit time to Earth was
about 4-5 Ma. Large variations of shielding depths between samples
indicate that break-up of the meteoroid must have occured high in
atmosphere. This would also explain the large inferred ablation loss,
which is typical for large chondrite showers.

Ref:

The L3-6 Regolith Breccia Northwest Africa 869: Petrology, Noble
Gases, and Cosmogenic Radionuclides
Metzler, K.; Ott, U.; Welten, K. C.; Caffee, M. W.; Franke, L.
39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary
Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas.
LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1120
Publication Date: 03/2008

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf



-Original Message-
From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca
To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 2:10 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Hi list,

Are there any estimates in how long ago this wonderful meteorite fell
to Earth,
and how large it might have been before it entered the atmosphere? It
must have
been a massive meteoroid, much larger than the one that produced the
Buzzard
Coulees.

 
---
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IMCA#: 2975
eBay: metmel2775


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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread MexicoDoug

Yes Mel, John's 4-5 meters in diameter statement corresponds to the
average 2 meter radius in the reference.  FYI, a typical entering
meteoroid that experiences a loss of 92.5% (the factor of its material
ton ablation as concluded by the authors) would drop this much material
for our collections:

diameter (meters)max recoverable mass
0.12 kg
0.350
0.5 200
1.0 1.7 ton
1.5 5.9
2.014
2.527
3.047
3.575
4.0  112
4.5  159
5.0   218

Of course the factor of 92.5% loss will vary depending on the angle it
enters, speed, composition and integrity, as well as the initial size
and shape, so they are all gross estimates.

Kindest wishes
Doufg



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Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Found this:


Scientists figure the meteoroid that was blasted off the  parent body 
was maybe
4 to 5 meters in diameter before atmospheric entry. Even  with ablation 
loss of

90 to 95% about 7 tons dropped on the Sahara Desert.

http://www.meteorite-times.com/micro-visions/nwa-869-inclusions/


 
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I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7.


- Original Message -
From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:03:47 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

PS

Referencing the same article that considered the free floating for 4-5 
million
year 869-parent meteoroid, also commented that the age of some of the 
regolith
soil/glue that formed the fantastically brecciated meteoroid of our 
envy had

itself exposure time of as long as 16 million years:

Assuming that 4 Ma is the time of transit irradiation, several 
lithologies have

been preirradiated up to 16 Ma in the parent body regolith.


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: miss_meteorite miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 3:49 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


NWA 869 represents an L chondritic regolith breccia containing
preirradiated components.  The meteoroid had an initial radius of about
2 m with a mass of about 110 metric tons. The transit time to Earth was
about 4-5 Ma. Large variations of shielding depths between samples
indicate that break-up of the meteoroid must have occured high in
atmosphere. This would also explain the large inferred ablation loss,
which is typical for large chondrite showers.

Ref:

The L3-6 Regolith Breccia Northwest Africa 869: Petrology, Noble
Gases, and Cosmogenic Radionuclides
Metzler, K.; Ott, U.; Welten, K. C.; Caffee, M. W.; Franke, L.
39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary
Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas.
LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1120
Publication Date: 03/2008

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf



-Original Message-
From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca
To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 2:10 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Hi list,

Are there any estimates in how long ago this wonderful meteorite fell
to Earth,
and how large it might have been before it entered the atmosphere? It
must have
been a massive meteoroid, much larger than the one that produced the
Buzzard
Coulees.

 
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IMCA#: 2975
eBay: metmel2775


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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread MexicoDoug
Just saw Zelimir's informative post from yesterday, if that is what he 
does for 869, he must have the world's best megadocumebnted collection 
;-), like we all aspire.


I need a correction to what I just posted a few minutes ago:

I gave the amount lost to ablation in the prior post, the correct 
numbers for the amount dropped as meteorites are as follws and Dean 
Bessey's estimate for NWA 869 of 7 tons of rocks in the strewn field 
and fits just right for the diameters/radii given in the paper and by 
John,


diameter (meters)max recoverable mass
0.1 0.14kg
0.3 3.8 
0.5 18  
1.0 141 
1.5 477 
2.0  1.1ton
2.5  2.2
3.0  3.8
3.5  6.1
4.0  9.0
4.5  13 
5.0  18 

Nice to keep these numbers in mind when we think about our well cared 
for boxes of space chocolates!  If NWA 869 were a limited fall the 
prices would have sent it right back to the cosmos ... something to 
think about.  Nice to think about next time you see your 
wife/husband/boy/girlfriend!


Best
Doug



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Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Yes Mel, John's 4-5 meters in diameter statement corresponds to the
average 2 meter radius in the reference.  FYI, a typical entering
meteoroid that experiences a loss of 92.5% (the factor of its material
ton ablation as concluded by the authors) would drop this much material
for our collections:

diameter (meters)max recoverable mass
0.12 kg
0.350
0.5 200
1.0 1.7 ton
1.5 5.9
2.014
2.527
3.047
3.575
4.0  112
4.5  159
5.0   218

Of course the factor of 92.5% loss will vary depending on the angle it
enters, speed, composition and integrity, as well as the initial size
and shape, so they are all gross estimates.

Kindest wishes
Doufg



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From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca
To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com; meteorite-list
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Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Found this:


Scientists figure the meteoroid that was blasted off the  parent body
was maybe
4 to 5 meters in diameter before atmospheric entry. Even  with ablation
loss of
90 to 95% about 7 tons dropped on the Sahara Desert.

http://www.meteorite-times.com/micro-visions/nwa-869-inclusions/


 
---
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IMCA#: 2975
eBay: metmel2775


I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7.


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From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:03:47 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

PS

Referencing the same article that considered the free floating for 4-5
million
year 869-parent meteoroid, also commented that the age of some of the
regolith
soil/glue that formed the fantastically brecciated meteoroid of our
envy had
itself exposure time of as long as 16 million years:

Assuming that 4 Ma is the time of transit irradiation, several
lithologies have
been preirradiated up to 16 Ma in the parent body regolith.


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: miss_meteorite miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 3:49 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


NWA 869 represents an L chondritic regolith breccia containing
preirradiated components.  The meteoroid had an initial radius of about
2 m with a mass of about 110 metric tons. The transit time to Earth was
about 4-5 Ma. Large variations of shielding depths between samples
indicate that break-up of the meteoroid must have occured high in
atmosphere. This would also explain the large inferred ablation loss,
which is typical for large chondrite showers.

Ref:

The L3-6 Regolith Breccia Northwest Africa 869: Petrology, Noble
Gases, and Cosmogenic Radionuclides
Metzler, K.; Ott, U.; Welten, K. C.; Caffee, M. W.; Franke, L.
39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary
Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas.
LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1120
Publication Date: 03/2008

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf



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Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 2:10 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869


Hi list,

Are there any estimates in how long ago this wonderful meteorite fell
to Earth,
and how large it might have been

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869

2011-11-04 Thread Melanie Matthews
How big is/was the largest NWA869 mass found? 

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION SPECIALIST

2011-10-10 Thread Aleksandr V. Leonenko

Greetings мr.de Boer, list and who all that to me has answered.
Stone # 2 it is valid not a meteorite - I have sawn it (not 
qualitatively), excuse.

http://s006.radikal.ru/i2 13/1110/53/a0d53ebe4587.jpg
The sample of the present meteorite at me isn't present, unfortunately.
I envy all to those who can search for meteorites in Oman, it is my 
dream. But I don't surrender, I continue search in Uzbekistan though 
many speak that it isn't perspective. We have perspective territories, 
now I collect means for full-scale expedition to stony desert to the 
east from the city of Uchkuduk. Besides there are many other places. As 
soon as I will be ready I will invite all interested persons through 
List.


To meetings!
Alexander.
Navoi. Uzbekistan.





* sbdeboer sbdeb...@hurontel.on.ca [Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:02:25 -0400]:

Hi   Aleksandr :

  I just  looked a your pictures of stones and am not convinced that
they
are meteorites . the first stone looks like a pretty stone but  VERY
doubtful that it is a  meteorite  the #2 stone  is harder to tell 

since

it
does n t have a cut  face  . Does it stick to a magnet ?   I doubt 

that

it
is a  meteorite .  I hope you do find one

 Where are you ?   Do you have any meteorite to compare it with or I
should
send you one meteorite.   Your English is  OK to understand   Write
again  I
live in Canada and have  collected meteorites for 10 years and have
hunted
in the desert of Oman  and  at Whitecourt  Alberta and have found
meteorites
in both placesthanks  simon de Boer

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Aleksandr
V. Leonenko
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:49 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question specialist


Greetings to all!
In advance I am sorry for my bad English.
For a long time I am engaged in searches of meteorites in the Central
Asia. But stones represented on a photo cause in me difficulties in
definition. I understand that on a photo to judge difficult, but I 

will

be grateful to all who will answer.
Whether it is necessary to do the spectral analysis?
They are similar to what kinds of meteorites? (If are similar)

Stone #1
http://s013.radikal.ru/i322/1110/5d/e29015146011.jpg

Stone #1 in Kizilkum desert
http://s44.radikal.ru/i103/1110/88/35b468a88b7a.jpg

Stone #2
http://i078.radikal.ru/1110/3a/606579c65a99.jpg

Stone #2 in Mirzachul desert
http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1110/57/8009aa5317be.jpg

Yours faithfully.

Leonenko A.V.

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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION SPECIALIST

2011-10-10 Thread Aleksandr V. Leonenko
* Aleksandr V. Leonenko alph...@rambler.ru [Mon, 10 Oct 2011 
21:34:59 +0400]:

Worker reference to photo stone #2
http://s006.radikal.ru/i213/1110/53/a0d53ebe4587.jpg


* Aleksandr V. Leonenko alph...@rambler.ru [Mon, 10 Oct 2011
21:19:26 +0400]:
 Greetings мr.de Boer, list and who all that to me has answered.
 Stone # 2 it is valid not a meteorite - I have sawn it (not
 qualitatively), excuse.
 http://s006.radikal.ru/i2 13/1110/53/a0d53ebe4587.jpg
 The sample of the present meteorite at me isn't present,
unfortunately.
 I envy all to those who can search for meteorites in Oman, it is my
 dream. But I don't surrender, I continue search in Uzbekistan though
 many speak that it isn't perspective. We have perspective 

territories,

 now I collect means for full-scale expedition to stony desert to the
 east from the city of Uchkuduk. Besides there are many other places.
As
 soon as I will be ready I will invite all interested persons through
 List.

 To meetings!
 Alexander.
 Navoi. Uzbekistan.





 * sbdeboer sbdeb...@hurontel.on.ca [Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:02:25 

-0400]:

  Hi   Aleksandr :
 
I just  looked a your pictures of stones and am not convinced 

that

  they
  are meteorites . the first stone looks like a pretty stone but 

VERY

  doubtful that it is a  meteorite  the #2 stone  is harder to tell
 since
  it
  does n t have a cut  face  . Does it stick to a magnet ?   I doubt
 that
  it
  is a  meteorite .  I hope you do find one
 
   Where are you ?   Do you have any meteorite to compare it with or 

I

  should
  send you one meteorite.   Your English is  OK to understand 

Write

  again  I
  live in Canada and have  collected meteorites for 10 years and 

have

  hunted
  in the desert of Oman  and  at Whitecourt  Alberta and have found
  meteorites
  in both placesthanks  simon de Boer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
  Aleksandr
  V. Leonenko
  Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:49 PM
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Question specialist
 
 
  Greetings to all!
  In advance I am sorry for my bad English.
  For a long time I am engaged in searches of meteorites in the
Central
  Asia. But stones represented on a photo cause in me difficulties 

in

  definition. I understand that on a photo to judge difficult, but I
 will
  be grateful to all who will answer.
  Whether it is necessary to do the spectral analysis?
  They are similar to what kinds of meteorites? (If are similar)
 
  Stone #1
  http://s013.radikal.ru/i322/1110/5d/e29015146011.jpg
 
  Stone #1 in Kizilkum desert
  http://s44.radikal.ru/i103/1110/88/35b468a88b7a.jpg
 
  Stone #2
  http://i078.radikal.ru/1110/3a/606579c65a99.jpg
 
  Stone #2 in Mirzachul desert
  http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1110/57/8009aa5317be.jpg
 
  Yours faithfully.
 
  Leonenko A.V.
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question specialist

2011-10-05 Thread Aleksandr V. Leonenko

Thanks for the answer!
Stone poorly magnetic.
Has made more detailed photos if it is necessary to grind the sample - 
tell to me, to a smog it to make in one week.


Look here, please:

http://s008.radikal.ru/i306/1110/06/1b600ee6275e.jpg

http://s009.radikal.ru/i308/1110/a4/afd7d7fdf694.jpg

http://s49.radikal.ru/i126/1110/75/53900eb8c927.jpg

http://s014.radikal.ru/i327/1110/55/83d47dfca203.jpg

http://s011.radikal.ru/i316/1110/66/415be649127c.jpg

http://i059.radikal.ru/1110/88/fbbed2c9be07.jpg



Yours faithfully.

Alexander.



* MstrEman mstre...@gmail.com [Tue, 4 Oct 2011 19:03:40 -0400]:

Greetings Aleksander!  OFF LIST

Stone #1 is a midway classification between conglomerate and breccia
as technically the clasts in it are slighly rounded and not totally
angular.  Conglomerates have fully rounded pebbles within.On the
moon there are no streams to round out the pebbles so we may safelty
conclude this is not a meteorite

Stone #2 in spite of what the others said, has possibilities.  Please
send me more photos, in good focus and with a ruler included so I can
estimate scale. Let me know if it has any attraction to a magnet,
please.

I'll give it a good look
 Elton

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Aleksandr V. Leonenko
alph...@rambler.ru wrote:

 Greetings to all!
 In advance I am sorry for my bad English.
 For a long time I am engaged in searches of meteorites in the 

Central

Asia.
 But stones represented on a photo cause in me difficulties in
definition. I
 understand that on a photo to judge difficult, but I will be 

grateful

to all
 who will answer.
 Whether it is necessary to do the spectral analysis?
 They are similar to what kinds of meteorites? (If are similar)

 Stone #1
 http://s013.radikal.ru/i322/1110/5d/e29015146011.jpg

 Stone #1 in Kizilkum desert
 http://s44.radikal.ru/i103/1110/88/35b468a88b7a.jpg

 Stone #2
 http://i078.radikal.ru/1110/3a/606579c65a99.jpg

 Stone #2 in Mirzachul desert
 http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1110/57/8009aa5317be.jpg

 Yours faithfully.

 Leonenko A.V.






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[meteorite-list] Question specialist

2011-10-03 Thread Aleksandr V. Leonenko


Greetings to all!
In advance I am sorry for my bad English.
For a long time I am engaged in searches of meteorites in the Central 
Asia. But stones represented on a photo cause in me difficulties in 
definition. I understand that on a photo to judge difficult, but I will 
be grateful to all who will answer.

Whether it is necessary to do the spectral analysis?
They are similar to what kinds of meteorites? (If are similar)

Stone #1
http://s013.radikal.ru/i322/1110/5d/e29015146011.jpg

Stone #1 in Kizilkum desert
http://s44.radikal.ru/i103/1110/88/35b468a88b7a.jpg

Stone #2
http://i078.radikal.ru/1110/3a/606579c65a99.jpg

Stone #2 in Mirzachul desert
http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1110/57/8009aa5317be.jpg

Yours faithfully.

Leonenko A.V.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question specialist

2011-10-03 Thread Aleksandr V. Leonenko


Thank you you for answer, but in Uzbekistan never was a glacier.
Also no such stone on distance of one kilometer.


* Ingo Herkstroeter metopas...@gmx.de [Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:03:12 
+0200]:

Hi!

Your first find is definitely a terrestrial breccia.

I'm not sure, what your second find is, but it looks like you searched
in an
area, where glaciers and/or have left some rocks. This isn't the best
place
for a hunt.

Cheers!

Ingo

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
Aleksandr V. Leonenko
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Oktober 2011 19:49
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [!! SPAM] [meteorite-list] Question specialist


Greetings to all!
In advance I am sorry for my bad English.
For a long time I am engaged in searches of meteorites in the Central
Asia. But stones represented on a photo cause in me difficulties in
definition. I understand that on a photo to judge difficult, but I 

will

be grateful to all who will answer.
Whether it is necessary to do the spectral analysis?
They are similar to what kinds of meteorites? (If are similar)

Stone #1
http://s013.radikal.ru/i322/1110/5d/e29015146011.jpg

Stone #1 in Kizilkum desert
http://s44.radikal.ru/i103/1110/88/35b468a88b7a.jpg

Stone #2
http://i078.radikal.ru/1110/3a/606579c65a99.jpg

Stone #2 in Mirzachul desert
http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1110/57/8009aa5317be.jpg

Yours faithfully.

Leonenko A.V.

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[meteorite-list] Question specialist

2011-10-03 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello List and Aleksandr,

Sorry, but none of these are meteorites as far as I can tell!
They look like terrestrial breccias / terrestrial compactions
but beautiful they are! So be sure to keep them as wonder-
ful meteorwrongs!

Best wishes,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread pshugar
Hello list,
Anyone know anything about lucyfi90 with just a 184
feedback?
Pete IMCA 1733


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Re: [meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Pete, well if you want to know I'll let you know just how thin he 
slices them up since no weights are listed.  Most fun I've had in 
months with rapid fire bidding.  Now, to soak up the damages and 
delight in the spoils - 7 items worth including a finely sliced lunar I 
calculate at $250/g but the joke will be on me if it is thinner than 
eyeballed and weighing less!  Really pissed I lost that winonaite


Kindest wishes
Doug


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Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 2:12 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] question


Hello list,
Anyone know anything about lucyfi90 with just a 184
feedback?
Pete IMCA 1733


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Re: [meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread Michael Mulgrew
I have a slice of Taza from that eBay user, and a howardite slice as
well.  They are paper thin, but make great display pieces.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:50 PM, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote:
 Hi Pete, well if you want to know I'll let you know just how thin he slices
 them up since no weights are listed.  Most fun I've had in months with rapid
 fire bidding.  Now, to soak up the damages and delight in the spoils - 7
 items worth including a finely sliced lunar I calculate at $250/g but the
 joke will be on me if it is thinner than eyeballed and weighing less!
  Really pissed I lost that winonaite

 Kindest wishes
 Doug


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 Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 2:12 pm
 Subject: [meteorite-list] question


 Hello list,
 Anyone know anything about lucyfi90 with just a 184
 feedback?
 Pete IMCA 1733


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Re: [meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread Benjamin P. Sun
I have dealt with lucyfi90 before. She has some really rare stuff. Her
slices are big and gorgeous but they are also very thin(at least mine
was).
I would consider her an honest  trustworthy seller. She shipped my
piece from within the USA, and it was shipped rather quickly.
But I think she had a bad incident with the postal service mangling
one of her shipments once before, so now she ships piece(s) in what
amounts to an insulated small wooden crate inside a box!(again, at
least that's was what I got), the best packaging job ever!
Which is good because we are talking about very thin slices here. I
received mine in perfect condition.
She is also very easy to communicate with. I would recommend her.
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Re: [meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread MexicoDoug


Thanks, Michael, Benjamin!  The I suppose it was up to $750/g for the 
Lunar, pushing it to the limit of the material then.  Still a great 
deal for a relatively small amount and such a large surface area, 
probably 50% more than others.  By looking at the shadow on the graph 
paper I guess you can get a better idea of how thin they are..  In some 
cases though, it is desireable for for passing light through inclusions 
in specimens to get such a nice uniform slice and hopefully this seller 
can concentrate their talents there which will return the maximum value 
for the community, IMO, instead of setting up $/g buyers for a hard 
lession ;-)


Kindest wishes
Doug

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Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] question


I have dealt with lucyfi90 before. She has some really rare stuff. Her
slices are big and gorgeous but they are also very thin(at least mine
was).
I would consider her an honest  trustworthy seller. She shipped my
piece from within the USA, and it was shipped rather quickly.
But I think she had a bad incident with the postal service mangling
one of her shipments once before, so now she ships piece(s) in what
amounts to an insulated small wooden crate inside a box!(again, at
least that's was what I got), the best packaging job ever!
Which is good because we are talking about very thin slices here. I
received mine in perfect condition.
She is also very easy to communicate with. I would recommend her.
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Re: [meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread Brandon
I just purchased an endcut of Dhofar 485(How) from her and am very excited to 
get an upclose look at it! Beautiful stone and the first time I've purchased a 
meteorite without knowing the weight, but the surface area justifies it for me 
since it will be in a membrane box anyway. A paper thin endcut now this I have 
to see!

Brandon D.
IMCA# 9312 


Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote:

I have dealt with lucyfi90 before. She has some really rare stuff. Her
slices are big and gorgeous but they are also very thin(at least mine
was).
I would consider her an honest  trustworthy seller. She shipped my
piece from within the USA, and it was shipped rather quickly.
But I think she had a bad incident with the postal service mangling
one of her shipments once before, so now she ships piece(s) in what
amounts to an insulated small wooden crate inside a box!(again, at
least that's was what I got), the best packaging job ever!
Which is good because we are talking about very thin slices here. I
received mine in perfect condition.
She is also very easy to communicate with. I would recommend her.
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Re: [meteorite-list] question

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Montgomery

Hello List,
I also have a few large-surface/weight specimens from lucyfi90 and I'm quite 
pleased with the prep work.  A while ago there was some discussion regarding 
her non-disclosure of weight, which I do not find deterent.


With that said, I've weighed a few from her because of simple curiousity, 
and of course the $/gr was quite higher than usual (one specimen is a 
stellar NWA801)...and yet the presentation justifies the price every time.


Sometimes I collect outside the boxthese are the ones I won't sell!

-Richard Montgomery




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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] question



I have dealt with lucyfi90 before. She has some really rare stuff. Her
slices are big and gorgeous but they are also very thin(at least mine
was).
I would consider her an honest  trustworthy seller. She shipped my
piece from within the USA, and it was shipped rather quickly.
But I think she had a bad incident with the postal service mangling
one of her shipments once before, so now she ships piece(s) in what
amounts to an insulated small wooden crate inside a box!(again, at
least that's was what I got), the best packaging job ever!
Which is good because we are talking about very thin slices here. I
received mine in perfect condition.
She is also very easy to communicate with. I would recommend her.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in the US

2011-08-10 Thread GRAHAM, FRANCIS



From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
[meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
ma...@imagineopals.com [ma...@imagineopals.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:26 PM
To: Michael Gilmer
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign  checks 
in the US

It can be done, but watch out. In Kentucky, they can hold the funds for 90
days (and will blame everyone else for it) while they use YOUR money for
themselves.

Speaking of Kentucky, at  5:41 AM August 7 there was an exceptionally 
bright bolide witnessed by me
just south of Louisville, to the north at 20 degrees NNW.  I thought, that 
might just have been barely bright enough to produce a 
small meteorite.  At a truck stop, I asked if anyone else had seen it, hoping 
to note in which direction from their locations so that I could get a 
triangulation and zip to that neighborhood for a look-see. 
But people don't look up much anymore I guess; no bites.  So I continued back 
to Ohio. 
Anyway, to the financial thread on the table, suppose I deposit a foreign 
check. Regardless of the stupid hold-em games banks play, how long 
is it before I can be reallt really really sure the check really really really 
cleared?  We are talking about objective reality, not bankspeak.

Francis Graham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in the US

2011-08-10 Thread Impactika
Much simpler yet,
Ask that customer to go to his bank and send a wire transfer to your bank. 
He will need your Bank account number and routing number (it is right on 
your checks), and your Bank's Swift Code. Call your bank and they will give 
you that information.
Usually it takes 2 to 4 days depending on the banks themselves, and when 
the money is in your bank there is no further problems, he can't take it back, 
you can send the stuff. And he will be the one paying the transfer fee. 

And just in case you worry about giving your banking information to a 
stranger, you can open a separate account with a minimum amount in it, just for 
wire transfers. 

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/

In a message dated 8/9/2011 9:37:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
meteoritesno...@hotmail.ca writes:

Hey Mike.  I think just to be safe you should request an International 
Money Order.  At least that way, it can be traced if necessary, and there 
shouldn't be a hold on it.  If you get the cheque, and send the items only to 
find 
out the cheque is rubber, then you are out of luck.
Cheers Mike
Craig M


 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:45:22 -0400
 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks 
in the US

 Hi List,

 Quick question for the dealers : have you ever heard of a US bank
 accepting a check from an overseas bank? Specifically, a check from
 India from an Indian bank that is affiliated with Bank of America, and
 the check in question will be drawn against Bank of America and can be
 deposited or cashed at any Bank of America?

 I ask because I received a request from an overseas customer and the
 request seems legit in other respects, but I am reluctant to deal with
 the kind of stuff where I have to walk in to the bank, speak to a
 supervisor and get it handled - it's a PITA and I'd rather just go
 through the drive-through and get my business done quick. And unless
 this is some form of Cashier's Check, there is no telling how long it
 will take for a check like this to clear and the funds to become
 available.

 Best regards,

 MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreignchecks in the US

2011-08-10 Thread Jim Wooddell

Hi all!

Anne is right on with this one.  It places all the burden on the buyer. And 
the threat, per Anne's instruction, is minimal.

I've never had an issue using this procedure.

Jim Wooddell
https://k7wfr.us



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To: meteoritesno...@hotmail.ca; meteoritem...@gmail.com; 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreignchecks 
in the US




Much simpler yet,
Ask that customer to go to his bank and send a wire transfer to your bank.
He will need your Bank account number and routing number (it is right on
your checks), and your Bank's Swift Code. Call your bank and they will 
give

you that information.
Usually it takes 2 to 4 days depending on the banks themselves, and when
the money is in your bank there is no further problems, he can't take it 
back,

you can send the stuff. And he will be the one paying the transfer fee.

And just in case you worry about giving your banking information to a
stranger, you can open a separate account with a minimum amount in it, 
just for

wire transfers.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
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[meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in the US

2011-08-09 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi List,

Quick question for the dealers : have you ever heard of a US bank
accepting a check from an overseas bank?  Specifically, a check from
India from an Indian bank that is affiliated with Bank of America, and
the check in question will be drawn against Bank of America and can be
deposited or cashed at any Bank of America?

I ask because I received a request from an overseas customer and the
request seems legit in other respects, but I am reluctant to deal with
the kind of stuff where I have to walk in to the bank, speak to a
supervisor and get it handled - it's a PITA and I'd rather just go
through the drive-through and get my business done quick.  And unless
this is some form of Cashier's Check, there is no telling how long it
will take for a check like this to clear and the funds to become
available.

Best regards,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in the US

2011-08-09 Thread mafer
It can be done, but watch out. In Kentucky, they can hold the funds for 90
days (and will blame everyone else for it) while they use YOUR money for
themselves.

I am sure other states have similar laws which allow theft like this.


On 4:45:22 pm 08/09/11 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 Quick question for the dealers : have you ever heard of a US bank
 accepting a check from an overseas bank?  Specifically, a check from
 India from an Indian bank that is affiliated with Bank of America, and
 the check in question will be drawn against Bank of America and can be
 deposited or cashed at any Bank of America?

 I ask because I received a request from an overseas customer and the
 request seems legit in other respects, but I am reluctant to deal with
 the kind of stuff where I have to walk in to the bank, speak to a
 supervisor and get it handled - it's a PITA and I'd rather just go
 through the drive-through and get my business done quick.  And unless
 this is some form of Cashier's Check, there is no telling how long it
 will take for a check like this to clear and the funds to become
 available.

 Best regards,

 MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in the US

2011-08-09 Thread MexicoDoug

Mike,

If he has a bank account, why don't you ask him to sign up with 
paypal?, they say it's free to send from there and charge a 2.5% 
premium (over interbank I suppose)


https://www.paypal.com/in/cgi-bin/helpscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside

also, ref:
http://niftyprediction.blogspot.com/2009/05/outward-remittance-how-to-send-money.html

Insist I am not a dealer, though, so the reply doesn't count.

Best wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
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To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 11:45 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign 
checks in the US



Hi List,

Quick question for the dealers : have you ever heard of a US bank
accepting a check from an overseas bank?  Specifically, a check from
India from an Indian bank that is affiliated with Bank of America, and
the check in question will be drawn against Bank of America and can be
deposited or cashed at any Bank of America?

I ask because I received a request from an overseas customer and the
request seems legit in other respects, but I am reluctant to deal with
the kind of stuff where I have to walk in to the bank, speak to a
supervisor and get it handled - it's a PITA and I'd rather just go
through the drive-through and get my business done quick.  And unless
this is some form of Cashier's Check, there is no telling how long it
will take for a check like this to clear and the funds to become
available.

Best regards,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in the US

2011-08-09 Thread Craig Moody

Hey Mike.  I think just to be safe you should request an International Money 
Order.  At least that way, it can be traced if necessary, and there shouldn't 
be a hold on it.  If you get the cheque, and send the items only to find out 
the cheque is rubber, then you are out of luck.
Cheers Mike
Craig M


 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:45:22 -0400
 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers - accepting foreign checks in 
 the US

 Hi List,

 Quick question for the dealers : have you ever heard of a US bank
 accepting a check from an overseas bank? Specifically, a check from
 India from an Indian bank that is affiliated with Bank of America, and
 the check in question will be drawn against Bank of America and can be
 deposited or cashed at any Bank of America?

 I ask because I received a request from an overseas customer and the
 request seems legit in other respects, but I am reluctant to deal with
 the kind of stuff where I have to walk in to the bank, speak to a
 supervisor and get it handled - it's a PITA and I'd rather just go
 through the drive-through and get my business done quick. And unless
 this is some form of Cashier's Check, there is no telling how long it
 will take for a check like this to clear and the funds to become
 available.

 Best regards,

 MikeG

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[meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread Adam Hupe

I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody know 
how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

http://meteoritesaler.com

They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing auction 
prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking I was 
asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because of this 
website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a site 
publishing inaccurate auction results.

Best Regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Adam,

This looks one of those rapidly thrown-together Wordpress sites.  It's
probably not even monitored by a real person.  They probably have bots
scanning the web for meteorite tags and reading RSS feeds of websites
to get their prices.  This doesn't explain why the prices are wrong,
but the site smells of contrivance to me.

Their network Who-Is info has been cloaked.  I would wager that the
same person(s) probably have a dozen or more sites like this that are
geared towards different types of collectibles or auctions.

It is aggravating to see sites like this poaching copyright material
and damaging the market by misquoting prices.

My advice - file a complaint with their webhosting company about
improper use of copyrighted material.  A reputable hosting site will
pull the site down for a TOS violation.

The DNS servers are mediatemple.net and the domain name was
purchased through namecheap.com

I can't readily tell who the host is though.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 7/14/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody
 know
 how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

 http://meteoritesaler.com

 They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing
 auction
 prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking I
 was
 asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because of
 this
 website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a site
 publishing inaccurate auction results.

 Best Regards,

 Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread David R Childs

Hi Adam,
I have tried every which way to find any viable info, ie, where are they 
from, URL ID, etc etc. Zilch!

They are certaily breaching copyright laws.

Regards
David
- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com

To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com




I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody 
know

how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

http://meteoritesaler.com

They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing 
auction
prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking I 
was
asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because of 
this
website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a 
site

publishing inaccurate auction results.

Best Regards,

Adam
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[meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread dorifry
Hey, that's my space ball auction! I've seen several sites like this that 
publish auction results, usually after the auctions end.



Phil Whitmer

Joshua Tree Imports 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread John Lutzon





 List,

 I have noticed these closing prices as well. I supposed they were posting
 shipping costs for some unknown reason.

 The other John L.

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com

To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:20 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com




I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody 
know

how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

http://meteoritesaler.com

They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing 
auction
prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking 
I was
asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because 
of this
website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a 
site

publishing inaccurate auction results.

Best Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread Stuart McDaniel

How do they change prices on closed ebay auctions?



Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr.,
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
IMCA #9052
Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA
-Original Message- 
From: David R Childs

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:12 PM
To: Adam Hupe
Cc: METLIST
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

Hi Adam,
I have tried every which way to find any viable info, ie, where are they
from, URL ID, etc etc. Zilch!
They are certaily breaching copyright laws.

Regards
David
- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com

To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com




I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody 
know

how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

http://meteoritesaler.com

They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing 
auction
prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking I 
was
asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because of 
this
website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a 
site

publishing inaccurate auction results.

Best Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread Yinan Wang
Unfortunately there's a dozen sites like this, so whenever you an
internet search for a meteorite they pop up if the meteorite happens
to be on ebay.

The reason they do this is because ebay has a referral program, so if
someone clicks on an auction link on one of these sites and wins the
ebay auction, the site owner gets a commission.

Not really a way to fight this if the site owner is well hidden,
unless you have the money to hire lawyers to pursue it.

-Yinan

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Stuart McDaniel
actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote:
 How do they change prices on closed ebay auctions?



 Stuart McDaniel
 Lawndale, NC
 Secr.,
 Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
 IMCA #9052
 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA
 -Original Message- From: David R Childs
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:12 PM
 To: Adam Hupe
 Cc: METLIST
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

 Hi Adam,
 I have tried every which way to find any viable info, ie, where are they
 from, URL ID, etc etc. Zilch!
 They are certaily breaching copyright laws.

 Regards
 David
 - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:20 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com



 I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody
 know
 how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

 http://meteoritesaler.com

 They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing
 auction
 prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking I
 was
 asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because of
 this
 website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a
 site
 publishing inaccurate auction results.

 Best Regards,

 Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

2011-07-14 Thread Stuart McDaniel

So it is illegal to refer someone to someone's auction?



Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr.,
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
IMCA #9052
Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA
-Original Message- 
From: Yinan Wang

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:54 PM
To: Stuart McDaniel
Cc: David R Childs ; Adam Hupe ; METLIST
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

Unfortunately there's a dozen sites like this, so whenever you an
internet search for a meteorite they pop up if the meteorite happens
to be on ebay.

The reason they do this is because ebay has a referral program, so if
someone clicks on an auction link on one of these sites and wins the
ebay auction, the site owner gets a commission.

Not really a way to fight this if the site owner is well hidden,
unless you have the money to hire lawyers to pursue it.

-Yinan

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Stuart McDaniel
actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote:

How do they change prices on closed ebay auctions?



Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr.,
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
IMCA #9052
Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA
-Original Message- From: David R Childs
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:12 PM
To: Adam Hupe
Cc: METLIST
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com

Hi Adam,
I have tried every which way to find any viable info, ie, where are they
from, URL ID, etc etc. Zilch!
They are certaily breaching copyright laws.

Regards
David
- Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question meteoritesaler.com




I tried to contact them but there contact link is not valid. Does anybody
know
how to contact the person(s) that run this website:

http://meteoritesaler.com

They have been publishing copyrighted material and some of the closing
auction
prices are inaccurately and ridiculously low.  I had a customer thinking 
I

was
asking too much, even when offering an item way below wholesale because 
of

this
website.  It is hard enough to break even these days and I don't need a
site
publishing inaccurate auction results.

Best Regards,

Adam
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[meteorite-list] question eBay meteorite sellers?????

2011-06-07 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,

I have a question and was wondering any of you eBay meteorite sellers might be 
experiencing the same problem on eBay. 

The question

When you post an auction you have the option to list in the UK market for a 
small fee in the check out section of the auction. But in the past week this 
option is gone. This has happened once before and was a glitch on the UK side 
is this a glitch again or is this option gone for good? Please let me know 
cause the eBay staff are  need I say more lol.


Shawn Alan 
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Re: [meteorite-list] question eBay meteorite sellers?????

2011-06-07 Thread Greg Hupé

Hi Shawn and List,

The last time I listed anything on eBay was last Friday and I did see the 
option, maybe it was just removed in the last few days, or a temporary 
'glitch'??


I have a different issue with eBay but I understand why they do not allow 
it, more fees in their pockets. The issue is that when I want to offer a 
Met-List or IMCA Member discount on an item that has been purchased on eBay 
from me, eBay will not allow you to issue a discount on the invoice, I have 
to wait until full payment is made and then issue a partial refund in PayPal 
(or personal check), when using PayPal you can issue a partial refund on 
their payment, but can not include the eBay auction number or else you get 
an error message stating you can not, 'treat your customers with a 
discount'. Oh well, eBay can keep their fees, I am happy to offer discounts 
to my valued friends and customers!!


Best Regards,
Greg


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-Original Message- 
From: Shawn Alan

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:59 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] question eBay meteorite sellers?

Hello Listers,

I have a question and was wondering any of you eBay meteorite sellers might 
be experiencing the same problem on eBay.


The question

When you post an auction you have the option to list in the UK market for a 
small fee in the check out section of the auction. But in the past week this 
option is gone. This has happened once before and was a glitch on the UK 
side is this a glitch again or is this option gone for good? Please let me 
know cause the eBay staff are  need I say more lol.



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[meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon

2011-05-22 Thread Laurence Garvie
A 1976 paper in Earth and Planetary Science Letters describes a unique 
chondrite (meteorite) returned from the Moon. The fragment measures 3 x 1.5 mm 
and shows some similarities with the CI meteorites.

McSween (1976) A new type of chondritic meteorite found in Lunar soil. Earth 
and Planetary Science Letter, 31, 193-199.

Laurence
CMS
ASU



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 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 15:13:17 -0700
 From: pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com
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 To: The List  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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 I don't guess I have ever seen this anywhere.
 Does anyone know if any Apollo Lunar
 returned rocks were Meteorites?
 Any answers out there
 Pete IMCA 1733
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon

2011-05-22 Thread tracy latimer

Is this a third meteorite fragment, distinct from Hadley Rille and Bench 
Crater?  Could there be more waiting to be found on continued inspection?

Best!
Tracy Latimer

 From: lgar...@asu.edu
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:06:42 -0700
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon
 
 A 1976 paper in Earth and Planetary Science Letters describes a unique 
 chondrite (meteorite) returned from the Moon. The fragment measures 3 x 1.5 
 mm and shows some similarities with the CI meteorites.
 
 McSween (1976) A new type of chondritic meteorite found in Lunar soil. Earth 
 and Planetary Science Letter, 31, 193-199.
 
 Laurence
 CMS
 ASU
 

  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread Michael Blood
 I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson
Meteorite Auction. 
It is   Sat, 4th
There will be streaming video. There will be food.
There will be meteorites. There will be Blood.
Michael



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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon

2011-05-22 Thread aerubin
The sample described in the McSween paper is Bench Crater.  There are  
also a few iron fragments that are probably iron meteorites, but they  
have not been officially designated.  There are probably additional  
small meteorites waiting to be discovered.



Quoting tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com:



Is this a third meteorite fragment, distinct from Hadley Rille and  
Bench Crater?  Could there be more waiting to be found on continued  
inspection?


Best!
Tracy Latimer


From: lgar...@asu.edu
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:06:42 -0700
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon

A 1976 paper in Earth and Planetary Science Letters describes a  
unique chondrite (meteorite) returned from the Moon. The fragment  
measures 3 x 1.5 mm and shows some similarities with the CI  
meteorites.


McSween (1976) A new type of chondritic meteorite found in Lunar  
soil. Earth and Planetary Science Letter, 31, 193-199.


Laurence
CMS
ASU




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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Michael and all!

Okayso here is what I have so far!

Day:  Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday
Time:  ???
Location:   VFW Post 4903.  1150 N. Beverly Ave.

What time??

What food?

Thanks!

Jim Wooddell





On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
  I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson
 Meteorite Auction.
        It is   Sat, 4th
        There will be streaming video. There will be food.
 There will be meteorites. There will be Blood.
        Michael
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day Jim , List

What food?...SPAM AND EGGSAND

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/meteor-coffee.jpg

Cheers John Cabassi



-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Wooddell
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM
To: Michael Blood
Cc: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


Hi Michael and all!

Okayso here is what I have so far!

Day:  Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday
Time:  ???
Location:   VFW Post 4903.  1150 N. Beverly Ave.

What time??

What food?

Thanks!

Jim Wooddell





On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
  I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson 
 Meteorite Auction.
        It is   Sat, 4th
        There will be streaming video. There will be food. There will 
 be meteorites. There will be Blood.
        Michael
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I have this same metal sign on the wall next to my specimen cabinet.  :)

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 5/22/11, John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote:
 G'Day Jim , List

 What food?...SPAM AND EGGSAND

 http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/meteor-coffee.jpg

 Cheers John Cabassi



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim
 Wooddell
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM
 To: Michael Blood
 Cc: Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


 Hi Michael and all!

 Okayso here is what I have so far!

 Day:  Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday
 Time:  ???
 Location:   VFW Post 4903.  1150 N. Beverly Ave.

 What time??

 What food?

 Thanks!

 Jim Wooddell





 On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
  I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson
 Meteorite Auction.
It is   Sat, 4th
There will be streaming video. There will be food. There will
 be meteorites. There will be Blood.
Michael
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread Richard Montgomery
A-hah!  AGAIN, the deli-meat breccia question..Listers, this is a huge 
development




- Original Message - 
From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net
To: 'Jim Wooddell' jimwoodd...@gmail.com; 'Michael Blood' 
mlbl...@cox.net

Cc: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


G'Day Jim , List

What food?...SPAM AND EGGSAND

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/meteor-coffee.jpg

Cheers John Cabassi



-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Wooddell
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM
To: Michael Blood
Cc: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


Hi Michael and all!

Okayso here is what I have so far!

Day:  Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday
Time:  ???
Location:   VFW Post 4903.  1150 N. Beverly Ave.

What time??

What food?

Thanks!

Jim Wooddell





On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:

I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson
Meteorite Auction.
It is Sat, 4th
There will be streaming video. There will be food. There will
be meteorites. There will be Blood.
Michael

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread Jim Wooddell
That's a cool picture/sign.

Jim Wooddell

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Richard Montgomery
rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:
 A-hah!  AGAIN, the deli-meat breccia question..Listers, this is a huge
 development



 - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net
 To: 'Jim Wooddell' jimwoodd...@gmail.com; 'Michael Blood'
 mlbl...@cox.net
 Cc: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


 G'Day Jim , List

 What food?...SPAM AND EGGSAND

 http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/meteor-coffee.jpg

 Cheers John Cabassi



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim
 Wooddell
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM
 To: Michael Blood
 Cc: Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


 Hi Michael and all!

 Okayso here is what I have so far!

 Day:  Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday
 Time:  ???
 Location:   VFW Post 4903.  1150 N. Beverly Ave.

 What time??

 What food?

 Thanks!

 Jim Wooddell





 On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:

 I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson
 Meteorite Auction.
 It is Sat, 4th
 There will be streaming video. There will be food. There will
 be meteorites. There will be Blood.
 Michael

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Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

2011-05-22 Thread Count Deiro
How much for the little sign?  I want to buy your signs..

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536


-Original Message-
From: Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com
Sent: May 22, 2011 6:52 PM
To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net
Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012

That's a cool picture/sign.

Jim Wooddell

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Richard Montgomery
rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:
 A-hah!  AGAIN, the deli-meat breccia question..Listers, this is a huge
 development



 - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net
 To: 'Jim Wooddell' jimwoodd...@gmail.com; 'Michael Blood'
 mlbl...@cox.net
 Cc: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


 G'Day Jim , List

 What food?...SPAM AND EGGSAND

 http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh149/Johnno_ACH/meteor-coffee.jpg

 Cheers John Cabassi



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim
 Wooddell
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM
 To: Michael Blood
 Cc: Meteorite List
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Tucson Meteorite Auction 2012


 Hi Michael and all!

 Okayso here is what I have so far!

 Day:  Feb 4th, Which is a Saturday
 Time:  ???
 Location:   VFW Post 4903.  1150 N. Beverly Ave.

 What time??

 What food?

 Thanks!

 Jim Wooddell





 On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:

 I am already getting inquiries re the date of the 2012 Tucson
 Meteorite Auction.
 It is Sat, 4th
 There will be streaming video. There will be food. There will
 be meteorites. There will be Blood.
 Michael

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[meteorite-list] Question

2011-05-21 Thread pshugar
I don't guess I have ever seen this anywhere.
Does anyone know if any Apollo Lunar
returned rocks were Meteorites?
Any answers out there
Pete IMCA 1733

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